WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from August 11, 2019

Listener comments!
	9:01am fred: Good morning Jeff and those headed out. Though I'm staying in for the next three hours
	🥁 9:01am hyde: hello!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Yay, @fred!
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @hyde!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: @listener james! Good morning to you, sir.
	9:06am Freaky Tiki: Morning, y'all! Rare moment when I can listen live.
	9:08am Jeff Golick: Heyo, @Freaky Tiki!
	🥁 9:10am duke: Good morning Jeff and D:Oers
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @duke!
	9:12am Doug Schulkind: Full-throated hellooooo from Lobsterland!
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Now that your throat is butter-coated, it's probably all the easier to bellow like that. Hi, @Doug!
	9:18am Jeff Golick: Scheduling note: I've seen Halloween displays in stores already.
	9:22am Doug Schulkind: With last night’s lobster boil, I said “I think I’ll go without butter this time,” aiming for a more healthful approach. It turns out I have bad aim.
	9:23am listener james from westwood: Butterfingers!
	🥁 9:23am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Doug, i can hear you from Tel Aviv. Hello, everyone!
	9:24am Freaky Tiki: As a teacher, I've always found the back to school displays more spooky.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: @Granny Spicy Tuna! Shalom.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: @Freaky: understandable.
	9:25am John in England: What has happened to the destination-out.com website?
	9:26am Jeff Golick: Hi, @John in England. It's offline due to some server difficulty. We're working on getting it reinstated.
	🥁 9:26am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Shalom, Jeff. No lobster here, but the streets are paved with gluten and shakshuka.
	9:27am Doug Schulkind: Next year in Jerusalem, GST!
	9:27am Jeff Golick: What is "shakshuka?"
	9:28am John in England: Glad to hear that. Thanks for the update.
	9:29am Jeff Golick: Sure. Glad you're still interested!
	🥁 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff: shakshuka is a tasty dish of eggs poached in a peppery tomato sauce. I am doing an investigation of the many shakshuka offerings here. I plan to spend my 50th birthday (Tuesday) in Jerusalem.
	9:31am Uncle Michael: I thiught the streets were paved with halvah. Thats what that stuff is for,right?
	🥁 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): UM: it's the buildings that are made of halva
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @UM! I love me some marble halvah. Which is why I am now the size of a building.
	9:33am Stanley: Hi Jazz Cats
	9:34am Jeff Golick: Speaking of cool cats, here's @Stanley!
	🥁 9:34am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i wish i had some huge speakers to blast this through. wow.
	9:34am Uncle Michael: I'm convinced halvah is why my grandmother is dead...that or the fact that she was born 100 years ago.
	9:35am Doug Schulkind: I made a shakshuka for the family last week. Eggs for dinner is a simple delight. Especially the same mole part.
	9:36am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:37am Jeff Golick: Huh. My grandmother, too, gave me my first taste of halvah. She is also dead. Coincidence???
	9:37am Jeff Golick: What is up, @holland oats!
	9:38am Jeff Golick: What is the opposite of a "foodie?" That is what I am.
	9:38am Jeff Golick: "Garbage eater?"
	🥁 9:38am hyde: man, i loovvvvvvv shaksuka
	9:40am Sem: Hello, Jeff, and greetings Sunday Jazz-O'philes.
	🥁 9:41am hyde: the opposite of foodie is people like a friend i have who seems to basically just think eating is a pain and might happily exist on nothing but soylent or the like
	9:41am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Sem! Great to see you!
	🥁 9:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): hyde: that is why i am going to Jerusalem for my birthday. My pilgrimage is to go to Tmol Shilshom where i ate my first (and so far favorite) shakshuka.
	🥁 9:42am hyde: @GSt that sounds super cool.
	9:44am Doug Schulkind: Share the recipe if you can, Granny.
	9:45am Jeff Golick: @hyde: I'm not quite as bad as your friend, but I do find that my inherent laziness tends to outweigh my desire to eat something good.
	9:45am fred: @hyde@9:41: that's pretty close to my outlook. Except I'd go with Guinness instead of soylent. And probably still go for the occasional onigiri run
	🥁 9:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): I just looked at theTmol Shilshom calendar and it looks like they've lined up kpouz player Gilad Weiss to play for my birthday. Now i'm even MORE excited.
	🥁 9:49am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Doug: i think all shakshuka practitioners guard their recipes ferociously. But i'll send you mine (lots of tomato paste and harissa)
	🥁 9:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): and i totally meant kopuz, not kpouz
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: Hey all!
	10:06am alanr: thank you giving me such a powerful and soulful background (or perhaps foreground), while I clean my apartment in Brooklyn.
	10:07am fred: @GST: Is the kopuz related to the Kyrgyz komuz? A quick google search says it might be, but I've trained it too well from home, so my results are very skewed
	10:08am listener james from westwood: Holy shit, Stork!
	10:08am holland oats: WOOT!
	10:08am listener james from westwood: AGES ago I mused about Stork as a glorious GTDR candidate, so I feel prophetic.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: oooh, cool. i heard a Wayne Shorter tune on WHRB the other day and was thinking about how good he is
	🥁 10:11am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: i think so, however i must admit some ignorance in that department
	10:12am Jeff Golick: @alanr! My absolute pleasure. What's this "cleaning" you speak of?
	10:13am fred: @GST: It doesn't matter anyway. Enjoy your birthday, the show, and the shakshuka (never had that, looks tasty)
	🥁 10:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: thanks! i am sure it will be enjoyable, whatever it is
	10:16am Jeff Golick: Are there two more innately musical people than Don Cherry and Charlie Haden?
	10:17am fleep: Greetings, humans!
	10:18am Linda Lee: what amazing sounds for this beautiful morning! thanks Jeff!
	10:19am Jeff Golick: Swimming in on a wing and a fin, it's @fleep!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Linda Lee! Aw, you're welcome and thanks for being here!
	10:21am Linda Lee: pleasure! usually feel a bit bereft first thing 'til i hear the right sounds, so you're the savior today. :-)
	🥁 10:21am doctorjazz: Ahhh, the Sextette, fabulous band!
	10:22am Jeff Golick: Belated greets, @doctorjazz! I did see you up there earlier... Easily one of the best bands of the 1980s.
	🥁 10:26am hyde: yeah, this is a great record
	🥁 10:27am doctorjazz: Never developed a taste for shakshuka, do like half a (my mom loved it). Just a falafel, schnitzel kind of guy.
	10:28am alanr: @jeff golick: sweeping and mopping floors, scrubbing the bathtub and toilet, kitchen surfaces.....all the normal things about cleaning. No metaphors. Just weekly work. LOL work. LOL
	10:29am Linda Lee: how awful, alanr! :-D
	🥁 10:31am doctorjazz: Do like halva,that should have read...
	🥁 10:33am doctorjazz: I'd love to visit Tel Aviv and Jerusalem again, been a long time (my younger daughter is going out seriously with an Israeli expat, so who knows...)
	🥁 10:35am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): yep, about 15 years ago i got mixed up with an Israeli expat sweeter than halva… and now look where i am! :) and this track is filling me with joy
	🥁 10:36am hyde: hmmm, i was just listening to Colin Walcott the other day too.was digging it.
	🥁 10:36am doctorjazz: Been to see 2 older jazz guys the last 2 weeks...Abdullah Ibrahim with Ekaya, and last night Eddie Palmieri. They are both in their 80s. You can tell they are older, but they both put pin great shows! So glad I caught them.
	🥁 10:37am doctorjazz: Codona is another of those amazing bands!
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Two great shows, @doc!
	🥁 10:38am hyde: @doc that's awesome.
	🥁 10:43am doctorjazz: Benny Carter holds the record for the oldest jazz musician I've seen that I wasn't sad I went to see him. He was making fabulous music into his 90s, used to catch him often at The West End. (And he was really sweet as well. I was looking at some Fake Books someone was selling outside of the club, and he came up to me and had an encouraging conversation with me. Not that I was a serious musician, but he waa so nice).
	🥁 10:44am doctorjazz: Ahhh,for to the Dan as well, good hubby!
	10:45am Linda Lee: that's a lovely story about Mr Carter, doc. generosity all around.
	10:46am Linda Lee: the truly great are generous.
	🥁 10:46am doctorjazz: I came to those early albums for the lyrics and tunes,but stayed for the guitar.
	10:47am Jeff Golick: Agreed, @LL.
	10:48am Linda Lee: that might be because there's humility. what they carry is so great they know it's not theirs to keep.
	🥁 10:49am doctorjazz: Ok,donned my Woof Moo T shirt, time to walk the pooches.
	10:50am Jeff Golick: Happy walking @doc, and doggos!
	🥁 10:50am doctorjazz: I don't know, Carter was just such a gentleman in every way. You could feel it from the stage, and he was very sweet and friendly.
	🥁 10:50am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): LL: i'll third that sentiment. so true.
	10:51am Jeff Golick: Time for another round of "which Jeff is this."
	10:53am Linda Lee: humility & brilliance. the gifts hand in hand. very cool to witness it.
	10:54am Linda Lee: makes artists who place themselves above their audience look darn foolish.
	10:55am Linda Lee: especially because your art takes both. without the audience, what have you got?
	🥁 10:55am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): LL: sing it, sister!
	10:56am Linda Lee: am i right? :-) glad you're having a fine time, Granny!
	11:00am Linda Lee: here's one: what's non-binary for 'sister'? cousin? honey bun? :-D
	11:02am Linda Lee: oh! 'an einem im august' isn't Tim Curry doing 'locomotive breath'!
	🥁 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): thanks, Linda Lee— it's fun to play with words— i like sxter, personally. Just throw an x into the word and it's neutral!
	11:03am Linda Lee: cool! :-D :-D
	🥁 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): cousin is one of my favorite word to share with kindred spirits, too <3
	11:04am Linda Lee: i like it too, cuz! :-D also find 'cuz' funny.
	11:05am Linda Lee: jus' cuz.
	11:06am fred: Is sibling binary?
	🥁 11:06am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): right on, cuz!
	11:06am Linda Lee: don't think so, fred.
	11:06am Doug Schulkind: Just back from a 2-mile walk along the waterfront. Dog ate many clams along the way. Ran into a 110-pound chocolate lab named Hershey who our pup played with three years ago. Good times!
	11:07am Linda Lee: 'my cousin in san francisco'. i like that. ;-)
	11:07am Linda Lee: hi Doug! which waterfront might that be?
	🥁 11:07am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): sibling is neutral, and one that i fold into my ceremonies and oblations
	11:08am Jeff Golick: Clam dog! One-ten is a big ol' lab.
	11:09am Linda Lee: what thrills me, still, is the concept of intentional family. love it.
	🥁 11:10am Brian in UK: Hello Jeff and someday folk.
	🥁 11:10am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Linda Lee: once again, i am with you there, cuz! <3 Ain't got much bio family these days, but i have a gorgeous, widespread family of choice
	11:11am listener james from westwood: @Doug, that is peak vacationing right there.
	11:11am northguineahills: I'm here and there....
	11:12am fred: I think French is far more gendered than English. You wouldn't have a way out with "cousin", it would be a "cousin/cousine" choise. Then again, we assign gender to everything, so maybe it's been overused into meaninglessness. (Sadly, no)
	11:13am Linda Lee: love it!! :-) i don't have much bio family either. how nice to consider that potential. in isolation, as i tend to feel now, it's a real lifesaver. but! that means you have to be in a place where you can find your new family. so i should come down out of the mountains!
	🥁 11:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: Lantinx folx have been playing with the similarly-gendered Spanish for years and coming up with some creative solutions. My sweetie tells me that Hebrew is even more intensely gendered than French and Spanish.
	11:14am Linda Lee: oh gosh, as far as gendered language go, yes, english is far more forgiving.
	11:15am Linda Lee: gosh, Granny, how is that possible??
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: I read that Threadgill called it a Sextette (in an interview) because he counted the 2 drums as 1. FWIW.
	🥁 11:16am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i've seen a non-binary Spanish speaker identify as Lantin@ (in text, at least—how would you pronounce that?)
	🥁 11:16am hyde: man, now i want a clam dog
	11:17am Linda Lee: there's the kick.. how do ya say these things?
	11:17am fred: @GST: We have something called inclusive writing here where the "cousin" example would be "cousin.e", plural "cousin.e.s". Problem here too is how do you pronounce that?
	🥁 11:17am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Linda Lee: apparently in Hebrew the entire grammatic structure is different depending on if you're talking to a male or a female. But we recently met a gender activist who is a native Hebrew speaker, so we're going to find out how to wrangle that.
	11:17am Linda Lee: ho ma gosh!
	11:18am Linda Lee: how do non-binary people tangle with that one? constantly, i'd' guess.
	11:19am Linda Lee: the fact that there's so much written that we haven't agreed on, in terms of pronunciation .. points to the fact that we're all online too much :-D
	🥁 11:19am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i encourage people to approach it playfully, or we'll all get so frustrated we'll give up (this goes for just about everything in life)
	11:20am Linda Lee: yes. beautiful.
	11:20am Jeff Golick: Big hellos to @Brian in UK and @northguineahills! I see you!
	11:20am Linda Lee: was just listening to Alan Watts on the subject of play. dead on!
	11:21am Linda Lee: poor man was apparently tormented ~ but still brilliant.
	🥁 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i mean, doesn't this track sound playful? isn't that part of why it's so enjoyable?
	11:22am Linda Lee: what we have in play is potential. that's what keeps us involved in it, yes?
	🥁 11:24am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): a wise teacher encouraged folx to listen to our imaginations with "joke mind." The open-minded, "ok, and then what?" that allows us to enjoy a good joke.
	🥁 11:24am doctorjazz: Love this Bauder and crew (he taps as the dogs wind around his legs and leave him hopelessly tangled)
	11:25am Linda Lee: (which is also what draws us to jazz! openness in the conventional structure to potential variation.)
	🥁 11:25am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff and all: thanks for indulging this conversation. I will step back now and encourage others to play. :)
	11:26am fred: @GST: good point, but good jokes are too few (there's only one Joke Lanz, for instance)
	11:26am Uncle Michael: Today's batch of gazpacho Andaluz will be ready just about when the show ends.
	11:26am Linda Lee: that's very cool, Granny. in tune to the cosmic goof. :-) Jeff''s been very indulgent, yes. thanks Jeff.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: Hey, I love the conversation. Don't have much to add, but agree that a light(-hearted) touch is really useful when wading into unknown language waters. Never hurts to ask, nicely, too. Every once in a while, we'll all end up eating a clam. (I think that's what the jazz musos call it...)
	11:30am Linda Lee: ahaha! 'eating a clam'? i only have one visual for that one.. & i'm sure it's the wrong one.
	11:31am Linda Lee: i like this Claudia Quintet piece lots. but the whole show's been marvelous.
	11:32am fred: @LL! re intentional family: my brother and sister were adopted. I'm white, my brother is Asian, my sister is black. Done wonders to open my mind, but it also means I'm often labeled a racist
	11:33am Linda Lee: what? why?
	🥁 11:34am doctorjazz: Such a lovely set!
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: I've also heard a wrong note referred to as a clam. ...also don't get that Fred
	11:39am fred: @LL: Especially with Asians (my sister was adopted much later in my early teens), having grown up with my brother means it can get really hard for me to tell whether someone is Asian or white. To a lesser extent, Asian or black or white. I'm by no means color-blind, but it's something I have to work on, because it comes out as denying someone's identity
	11:40am Linda Lee: ah. wow.
	11:41am Linda Lee: so that's seen as racist? wow..
	11:41am Jeff Golick: @fred: Your awareness of it is the main thing. I think?
	11:42am fred: @Jeff: More like the lack thereof
	🥁 11:42am hyde: i gotta go pick up lunch. thanks for the cool music. bye all!
	🥁 11:43am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: ah. race (like gender) seems to be based on perception rather than biology (hence the concept of "passing"). Again, the best approach is to respect the other person's self-identification. And be playful! :)
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Bye, @hyde! Happy lunching!
	11:43am Linda Lee: seems like a bit of a stretch to equate color-blindness with racism tho'..
	11:44am fred: @LL: It's what GST just said: I should respect how people self-identify
	11:44am Linda Lee: yes, right. 'race' doesn't actually exist, biologically. just a convenient precept for 19th century industrialists to use as a wedge between workers who might be allies against exploitation. so here we are, assuming it has a biological basis.
	11:45am Uncle Michael: Gotta tend to the soup...thanks for the choons, Jeff! Bye all!
	11:46am Linda Lee: self-identity is really all we have to go on. for sure. the probabilities are often assumed & rightly, but still, self-identity is the thing.
	11:46am Jeff Golick: Happy souping, @UM! Thanks for being here!
	11:49am Jeff Golick: Yeah, respecting each other as we wish to be seen -- why so hard?
	11:50am Linda Lee: lack of communication makes it hard.
	🥁 11:51am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): happy people are harder to oppress?
	11:52am northguineahills: thanks, Jeff!
	11:52am fred: Maybe because we don't advertise it as clearly as we think. Though by now I have more WFMU T-shirts than non-station ones. It should be clear how I wish to be identified
	11:52am Linda Lee: classes of people unified in numbers are harder to oppress.
	🥁 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff! thank you for an amazing three-hours of sonic bliss and the opportunity to enjoy intelligent (and playful!) conversation with folx around the world. (I just hope SMK doesn't chastise me for blowing my comment limit!!!)
	11:54am northguineahills: @LL:As we all know race is both a conscious and unconscious cultural construct.
	11:55am Linda Lee: @fred ~ & then there's physicality as advertisement, leading to assumption. @ngh ~ yep.
	11:55am Jeff Golick: There's a comment limit? Bye for now, @ngh! Thanks for being here.
	11:56am Linda Lee: i've been chastised too, Granny. but i don't think he's minding the streams as much as the flagship show meant to invite new listeners.
	11:56am listener james from westwood: Taking the last moments mobile on my phone as I check laundry; thanks Jeff!
	11:56am Jeff Golick: My absolute pleasure, @GST!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: My pleazh, @ljfw!
	11:57am fred: @LL: Yeah. It's hard. Otherwise it would just be boring
	11:57am rw: Thx JG! Beautiful.
	11:57am Linda Lee: @Jeff, yes, i lost commenting privileges for short time because of 'over commenting'. surprised? :-D
	11:58am Doug Schulkind: Answering Linda lee @11:07 Stonington, Maine
	🥁 11:58am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff: some of us were contacted for, er, our "generous" amount of comments on the boards. I was told to keep it to 20 per show. <3
	11:58am Linda Lee: lovely, Doug! :-)
	🥁 11:58am doctorjazz: Great show, fun comments, great week all!
	11:59am fleep: Thank you for a great morning wake up, Jeff.
	11:59am Clam Dog: I love you all, too!
	11:59am Linda Lee: thanks so much, Jeff! beautiful show! (final comment today. so there.)
	🥁 12:00pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Eat more clams!
	12:00pm Howard Johnson: All you can eat clams!
	12:00pm fred: Thanks Jeff! I hope whatever keeps you from the radio next week proves enjoyable. And happy birthday to your dad!
	12:03pm Doug Schulkind: Maybe just maybe get used to hearing Stork around these parts... Stay tuned.
	12:03pm Stanley: Thanks Jeff Great stuff, guys
	12:04pm fred: @Doug: that sounds like (possibly) great news
	12:05pm Jeff Golick: Bye for now--and thanks!--@Linda Lee; @GST; @HoJo; @fred; @Stanley; our benefactor @fleep; @doc; and @rw (hi/bye)!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:29 (Pop-up)
Keith Tippett	August Air "August Air" by "Keith Tippett"	1992.05 - Queen Elizabeth Hall, London	[no label]	1992		0:06:21 (Pop-up)
The Attic	Aimless at the Beach "Aimless at the Beach" by "The Attic"	Summer Bummer	NoBusiness Records	2019		0:46:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dick Khoza	Lilongwe "Lilongwe" by "Dick Khoza"					1:02:45 (Pop-up)
Charlie Haden	Out of Focus "Out of Focus" by "Charlie Haden"	The Golden Number	Horizon	1976	w Don Cherry	1:09:00 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Sextett	Sweet Holy Rag	Rag, Bush and All	Novus	1989		1:15:49 (Pop-up)
Codona	New Light "New Light" by "Codona"	Codona	ECM	1979		1:29:06 (Pop-up)
Steely Dan	My Old School "My Old School" by "Steely Dan"	Countdown to Ecstasy	ABC Records	1973		1:42:42 (Pop-up)
Augustus Pablo & the Upsetter	Vibrate Onn	b/w "Dub Onn"	Black Art	1977		1:48:43 (Pop-up)
Israel Vibration	I'll Go Through "I'll Go Through" by "Israel Vibration"	The Same Song	Top Ranking	1978		1:52:56 (Pop-up)
Keith Hudson & Augustus Pablo	Fat Baby	b-side to "Fight On Fight On"	Mafia	1972		1:57:04 (Pop-up)
Drosselbart	An einem Tag im August	b/w "O'Driscoll"	Polydor	1971		1:59:43 (Pop-up)
Crystalized Movements	August Arising	Revelations from Pandemonium	Twisted Village	1992		2:02:54 (Pop-up)
Mary Halvorson & Jessica Pavone	One Day in August	Prairies	Lucky Kitchen	2005		2:05:15 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					2:09:02 (Pop-up)
Matt Bauder & Day in Pictures	August and Counting	Nightshades	Clean Feed	2014		2:16:11 (Pop-up)
The Claudia Quintet	August 5th, 2006 (For Kate Schroeder and Family)	For	Cuneiform	2007		2:23:08 (Pop-up)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk	Lonesome August Child	Reeds & Deeds	Mercury	1963		2:32:44 (Pop-up)
Giovanni Guidi	15th of August "15th of August" by "Giovanni Guidi"	Avec le Temps	ECM	2019		2:37:50 (Pop-up)
Ernest Hood	August Haze "August Haze" by "Ernest Hood"	Neighborhoods	Thistlefield Records	1975		2:43:57 (Pop-up)
Talking Heads	This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)	Speaking in Tongues	Sire	1983		2:52:03 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:56:50 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:01am fred: Good morning Jeff and those headed out. Though I'm staying in for the next three hours
	🥁 9:01am hyde: hello!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Yay, @fred!
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @hyde!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: @listener james! Good morning to you, sir.
	9:06am Freaky Tiki: Morning, y'all! Rare moment when I can listen live.
	9:08am Jeff Golick: Heyo, @Freaky Tiki!
	🥁 9:10am duke: Good morning Jeff and D:Oers
	9:11am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @duke!
	9:12am Doug Schulkind: Full-throated hellooooo from Lobsterland!
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Now that your throat is butter-coated, it's probably all the easier to bellow like that. Hi, @Doug!
	9:18am Jeff Golick: Scheduling note: I've seen Halloween displays in stores already.
	9:22am Doug Schulkind: With last night’s lobster boil, I said “I think I’ll go without butter this time,” aiming for a more healthful approach. It turns out I have bad aim.
	9:23am listener james from westwood: Butterfingers!
	🥁 9:23am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Doug, i can hear you from Tel Aviv. Hello, everyone!
	9:24am Freaky Tiki: As a teacher, I've always found the back to school displays more spooky.
	9:24am Jeff Golick: @Granny Spicy Tuna! Shalom.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: @Freaky: understandable.
	9:25am John in England: What has happened to the destination-out.com website?
	9:26am Jeff Golick: Hi, @John in England. It's offline due to some server difficulty. We're working on getting it reinstated.
	🥁 9:26am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Shalom, Jeff. No lobster here, but the streets are paved with gluten and shakshuka.
	9:27am Doug Schulkind: Next year in Jerusalem, GST!
	9:27am Jeff Golick: What is "shakshuka?"
	9:28am John in England: Glad to hear that. Thanks for the update.
	9:29am Jeff Golick: Sure. Glad you're still interested!
	🥁 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff: shakshuka is a tasty dish of eggs poached in a peppery tomato sauce. I am doing an investigation of the many shakshuka offerings here. I plan to spend my 50th birthday (Tuesday) in Jerusalem.
	9:31am Uncle Michael: I thiught the streets were paved with halvah. Thats what that stuff is for,right?
	🥁 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): UM: it's the buildings that are made of halva
	9:32am Jeff Golick: @UM! I love me some marble halvah. Which is why I am now the size of a building.
	9:33am Stanley: Hi Jazz Cats
	9:34am Jeff Golick: Speaking of cool cats, here's @Stanley!
	🥁 9:34am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i wish i had some huge speakers to blast this through. wow.
	9:34am Uncle Michael: I'm convinced halvah is why my grandmother is dead...that or the fact that she was born 100 years ago.
	9:35am Doug Schulkind: I made a shakshuka for the family last week. Eggs for dinner is a simple delight. Especially the same mole part.
	9:36am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:37am Jeff Golick: Huh. My grandmother, too, gave me my first taste of halvah. She is also dead. Coincidence???
	9:37am Jeff Golick: What is up, @holland oats!
	9:38am Jeff Golick: What is the opposite of a "foodie?" That is what I am.
	9:38am Jeff Golick: "Garbage eater?"
	🥁 9:38am hyde: man, i loovvvvvvv shaksuka
	9:40am Sem: Hello, Jeff, and greetings Sunday Jazz-O'philes.
	🥁 9:41am hyde: the opposite of foodie is people like a friend i have who seems to basically just think eating is a pain and might happily exist on nothing but soylent or the like
	9:41am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Sem! Great to see you!
	🥁 9:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): hyde: that is why i am going to Jerusalem for my birthday. My pilgrimage is to go to Tmol Shilshom where i ate my first (and so far favorite) shakshuka.
	🥁 9:42am hyde: @GSt that sounds super cool.
	9:44am Doug Schulkind: Share the recipe if you can, Granny.
	9:45am Jeff Golick: @hyde: I'm not quite as bad as your friend, but I do find that my inherent laziness tends to outweigh my desire to eat something good.
	9:45am fred: @hyde@9:41: that's pretty close to my outlook. Except I'd go with Guinness instead of soylent. And probably still go for the occasional onigiri run
	🥁 9:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): I just looked at theTmol Shilshom calendar and it looks like they've lined up kpouz player Gilad Weiss to play for my birthday. Now i'm even MORE excited.
	🥁 9:49am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Doug: i think all shakshuka practitioners guard their recipes ferociously. But i'll send you mine (lots of tomato paste and harissa)
	🥁 9:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): and i totally meant kopuz, not kpouz
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: Hey all!
	10:06am alanr: thank you giving me such a powerful and soulful background (or perhaps foreground), while I clean my apartment in Brooklyn.
	10:07am fred: @GST: Is the kopuz related to the Kyrgyz komuz? A quick google search says it might be, but I've trained it too well from home, so my results are very skewed
	10:08am listener james from westwood: Holy shit, Stork!
	10:08am holland oats: WOOT!
	10:08am listener james from westwood: AGES ago I mused about Stork as a glorious GTDR candidate, so I feel prophetic.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: oooh, cool. i heard a Wayne Shorter tune on WHRB the other day and was thinking about how good he is
	🥁 10:11am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: i think so, however i must admit some ignorance in that department
	10:12am Jeff Golick: @alanr! My absolute pleasure. What's this "cleaning" you speak of?
	10:13am fred: @GST: It doesn't matter anyway. Enjoy your birthday, the show, and the shakshuka (never had that, looks tasty)
	🥁 10:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: thanks! i am sure it will be enjoyable, whatever it is
	10:16am Jeff Golick: Are there two more innately musical people than Don Cherry and Charlie Haden?
	10:17am fleep: Greetings, humans!
	10:18am Linda Lee: what amazing sounds for this beautiful morning! thanks Jeff!
	10:19am Jeff Golick: Swimming in on a wing and a fin, it's @fleep!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: Hi, @Linda Lee! Aw, you're welcome and thanks for being here!
	10:21am Linda Lee: pleasure! usually feel a bit bereft first thing 'til i hear the right sounds, so you're the savior today. :-)
	🥁 10:21am doctorjazz: Ahhh, the Sextette, fabulous band!
	10:22am Jeff Golick: Belated greets, @doctorjazz! I did see you up there earlier... Easily one of the best bands of the 1980s.
	🥁 10:26am hyde: yeah, this is a great record
	🥁 10:27am doctorjazz: Never developed a taste for shakshuka, do like half a (my mom loved it). Just a falafel, schnitzel kind of guy.
	10:28am alanr: @jeff golick: sweeping and mopping floors, scrubbing the bathtub and toilet, kitchen surfaces.....all the normal things about cleaning. No metaphors. Just weekly work. LOL work. LOL
	10:29am Linda Lee: how awful, alanr! :-D
	🥁 10:31am doctorjazz: Do like halva,that should have read...
	🥁 10:33am doctorjazz: I'd love to visit Tel Aviv and Jerusalem again, been a long time (my younger daughter is going out seriously with an Israeli expat, so who knows...)
	🥁 10:35am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): yep, about 15 years ago i got mixed up with an Israeli expat sweeter than halva… and now look where i am! :) and this track is filling me with joy
	🥁 10:36am hyde: hmmm, i was just listening to Colin Walcott the other day too.was digging it.
	🥁 10:36am doctorjazz: Been to see 2 older jazz guys the last 2 weeks...Abdullah Ibrahim with Ekaya, and last night Eddie Palmieri. They are both in their 80s. You can tell they are older, but they both put pin great shows! So glad I caught them.
	🥁 10:37am doctorjazz: Codona is another of those amazing bands!
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Two great shows, @doc!
	🥁 10:38am hyde: @doc that's awesome.
	🥁 10:43am doctorjazz: Benny Carter holds the record for the oldest jazz musician I've seen that I wasn't sad I went to see him. He was making fabulous music into his 90s, used to catch him often at The West End. (And he was really sweet as well. I was looking at some Fake Books someone was selling outside of the club, and he came up to me and had an encouraging conversation with me. Not that I was a serious musician, but he waa so nice).
	🥁 10:44am doctorjazz: Ahhh,for to the Dan as well, good hubby!
	10:45am Linda Lee: that's a lovely story about Mr Carter, doc. generosity all around.
	10:46am Linda Lee: the truly great are generous.
	🥁 10:46am doctorjazz: I came to those early albums for the lyrics and tunes,but stayed for the guitar.
	10:47am Jeff Golick: Agreed, @LL.
	10:48am Linda Lee: that might be because there's humility. what they carry is so great they know it's not theirs to keep.
	🥁 10:49am doctorjazz: Ok,donned my Woof Moo T shirt, time to walk the pooches.
	10:50am Jeff Golick: Happy walking @doc, and doggos!
	🥁 10:50am doctorjazz: I don't know, Carter was just such a gentleman in every way. You could feel it from the stage, and he was very sweet and friendly.
	🥁 10:50am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): LL: i'll third that sentiment. so true.
	10:51am Jeff Golick: Time for another round of "which Jeff is this."
	10:53am Linda Lee: humility & brilliance. the gifts hand in hand. very cool to witness it.
	10:54am Linda Lee: makes artists who place themselves above their audience look darn foolish.
	10:55am Linda Lee: especially because your art takes both. without the audience, what have you got?
	🥁 10:55am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): LL: sing it, sister!
	10:56am Linda Lee: am i right? :-) glad you're having a fine time, Granny!
	11:00am Linda Lee: here's one: what's non-binary for 'sister'? cousin? honey bun? :-D
	11:02am Linda Lee: oh! 'an einem im august' isn't Tim Curry doing 'locomotive breath'!
	🥁 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): thanks, Linda Lee— it's fun to play with words— i like sxter, personally. Just throw an x into the word and it's neutral!
	11:03am Linda Lee: cool! :-D :-D
	🥁 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): cousin is one of my favorite word to share with kindred spirits, too <3
	11:04am Linda Lee: i like it too, cuz! :-D also find 'cuz' funny.
	11:05am Linda Lee: jus' cuz.
	11:06am fred: Is sibling binary?
	🥁 11:06am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): right on, cuz!
	11:06am Linda Lee: don't think so, fred.
	11:06am Doug Schulkind: Just back from a 2-mile walk along the waterfront. Dog ate many clams along the way. Ran into a 110-pound chocolate lab named Hershey who our pup played with three years ago. Good times!
	11:07am Linda Lee: 'my cousin in san francisco'. i like that. ;-)
	11:07am Linda Lee: hi Doug! which waterfront might that be?
	🥁 11:07am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): sibling is neutral, and one that i fold into my ceremonies and oblations
	11:08am Jeff Golick: Clam dog! One-ten is a big ol' lab.
	11:09am Linda Lee: what thrills me, still, is the concept of intentional family. love it.
	🥁 11:10am Brian in UK: Hello Jeff and someday folk.
	🥁 11:10am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Linda Lee: once again, i am with you there, cuz! <3 Ain't got much bio family these days, but i have a gorgeous, widespread family of choice
	11:11am listener james from westwood: @Doug, that is peak vacationing right there.
	11:11am northguineahills: I'm here and there....
	11:12am fred: I think French is far more gendered than English. You wouldn't have a way out with "cousin", it would be a "cousin/cousine" choise. Then again, we assign gender to everything, so maybe it's been overused into meaninglessness. (Sadly, no)
	11:13am Linda Lee: love it!! :-) i don't have much bio family either. how nice to consider that potential. in isolation, as i tend to feel now, it's a real lifesaver. but! that means you have to be in a place where you can find your new family. so i should come down out of the mountains!
	🥁 11:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: Lantinx folx have been playing with the similarly-gendered Spanish for years and coming up with some creative solutions. My sweetie tells me that Hebrew is even more intensely gendered than French and Spanish.
	11:14am Linda Lee: oh gosh, as far as gendered language go, yes, english is far more forgiving.
	11:15am Linda Lee: gosh, Granny, how is that possible??
	🥁 11:15am doctorjazz: I read that Threadgill called it a Sextette (in an interview) because he counted the 2 drums as 1. FWIW.
	🥁 11:16am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i've seen a non-binary Spanish speaker identify as Lantin@ (in text, at least—how would you pronounce that?)
	🥁 11:16am hyde: man, now i want a clam dog
	11:17am Linda Lee: there's the kick.. how do ya say these things?
	11:17am fred: @GST: We have something called inclusive writing here where the "cousin" example would be "cousin.e", plural "cousin.e.s". Problem here too is how do you pronounce that?
	🥁 11:17am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Linda Lee: apparently in Hebrew the entire grammatic structure is different depending on if you're talking to a male or a female. But we recently met a gender activist who is a native Hebrew speaker, so we're going to find out how to wrangle that.
	11:17am Linda Lee: ho ma gosh!
	11:18am Linda Lee: how do non-binary people tangle with that one? constantly, i'd' guess.
	11:19am Linda Lee: the fact that there's so much written that we haven't agreed on, in terms of pronunciation .. points to the fact that we're all online too much :-D
	🥁 11:19am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i encourage people to approach it playfully, or we'll all get so frustrated we'll give up (this goes for just about everything in life)
	11:20am Linda Lee: yes. beautiful.
	11:20am Jeff Golick: Big hellos to @Brian in UK and @northguineahills! I see you!
	11:20am Linda Lee: was just listening to Alan Watts on the subject of play. dead on!
	11:21am Linda Lee: poor man was apparently tormented ~ but still brilliant.
	🥁 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i mean, doesn't this track sound playful? isn't that part of why it's so enjoyable?
	11:22am Linda Lee: what we have in play is potential. that's what keeps us involved in it, yes?
	🥁 11:24am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): a wise teacher encouraged folx to listen to our imaginations with "joke mind." The open-minded, "ok, and then what?" that allows us to enjoy a good joke.
	🥁 11:24am doctorjazz: Love this Bauder and crew (he taps as the dogs wind around his legs and leave him hopelessly tangled)
	11:25am Linda Lee: (which is also what draws us to jazz! openness in the conventional structure to potential variation.)
	🥁 11:25am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff and all: thanks for indulging this conversation. I will step back now and encourage others to play. :)
	11:26am fred: @GST: good point, but good jokes are too few (there's only one Joke Lanz, for instance)
	11:26am Uncle Michael: Today's batch of gazpacho Andaluz will be ready just about when the show ends.
	11:26am Linda Lee: that's very cool, Granny. in tune to the cosmic goof. :-) Jeff''s been very indulgent, yes. thanks Jeff.
	11:28am Jeff Golick: Hey, I love the conversation. Don't have much to add, but agree that a light(-hearted) touch is really useful when wading into unknown language waters. Never hurts to ask, nicely, too. Every once in a while, we'll all end up eating a clam. (I think that's what the jazz musos call it...)
	11:30am Linda Lee: ahaha! 'eating a clam'? i only have one visual for that one.. & i'm sure it's the wrong one.
	11:31am Linda Lee: i like this Claudia Quintet piece lots. but the whole show's been marvelous.
	11:32am fred: @LL! re intentional family: my brother and sister were adopted. I'm white, my brother is Asian, my sister is black. Done wonders to open my mind, but it also means I'm often labeled a racist
	11:33am Linda Lee: what? why?
	🥁 11:34am doctorjazz: Such a lovely set!
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: I've also heard a wrong note referred to as a clam. ...also don't get that Fred
	11:39am fred: @LL: Especially with Asians (my sister was adopted much later in my early teens), having grown up with my brother means it can get really hard for me to tell whether someone is Asian or white. To a lesser extent, Asian or black or white. I'm by no means color-blind, but it's something I have to work on, because it comes out as denying someone's identity
	11:40am Linda Lee: ah. wow.
	11:41am Linda Lee: so that's seen as racist? wow..
	11:41am Jeff Golick: @fred: Your awareness of it is the main thing. I think?
	11:42am fred: @Jeff: More like the lack thereof
	🥁 11:42am hyde: i gotta go pick up lunch. thanks for the cool music. bye all!
	🥁 11:43am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): fred: ah. race (like gender) seems to be based on perception rather than biology (hence the concept of "passing"). Again, the best approach is to respect the other person's self-identification. And be playful! :)
	11:43am Jeff Golick: Bye, @hyde! Happy lunching!
	11:43am Linda Lee: seems like a bit of a stretch to equate color-blindness with racism tho'..
	11:44am fred: @LL: It's what GST just said: I should respect how people self-identify
	11:44am Linda Lee: yes, right. 'race' doesn't actually exist, biologically. just a convenient precept for 19th century industrialists to use as a wedge between workers who might be allies against exploitation. so here we are, assuming it has a biological basis.
	11:45am Uncle Michael: Gotta tend to the soup...thanks for the choons, Jeff! Bye all!
	11:46am Linda Lee: self-identity is really all we have to go on. for sure. the probabilities are often assumed & rightly, but still, self-identity is the thing.
	11:46am Jeff Golick: Happy souping, @UM! Thanks for being here!
	11:49am Jeff Golick: Yeah, respecting each other as we wish to be seen -- why so hard?
	11:50am Linda Lee: lack of communication makes it hard.
	🥁 11:51am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): happy people are harder to oppress?
	11:52am northguineahills: thanks, Jeff!
	11:52am fred: Maybe because we don't advertise it as clearly as we think. Though by now I have more WFMU T-shirts than non-station ones. It should be clear how I wish to be identified
	11:52am Linda Lee: classes of people unified in numbers are harder to oppress.
	🥁 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff! thank you for an amazing three-hours of sonic bliss and the opportunity to enjoy intelligent (and playful!) conversation with folx around the world. (I just hope SMK doesn't chastise me for blowing my comment limit!!!)
	11:54am northguineahills: @LL:As we all know race is both a conscious and unconscious cultural construct.
	11:55am Linda Lee: @fred ~ & then there's physicality as advertisement, leading to assumption. @ngh ~ yep.
	11:55am Jeff Golick: There's a comment limit? Bye for now, @ngh! Thanks for being here.
	11:56am Linda Lee: i've been chastised too, Granny. but i don't think he's minding the streams as much as the flagship show meant to invite new listeners.
	11:56am listener james from westwood: Taking the last moments mobile on my phone as I check laundry; thanks Jeff!
	11:56am Jeff Golick: My absolute pleasure, @GST!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: My pleazh, @ljfw!
	11:57am fred: @LL: Yeah. It's hard. Otherwise it would just be boring
	11:57am rw: Thx JG! Beautiful.
	11:57am Linda Lee: @Jeff, yes, i lost commenting privileges for short time because of 'over commenting'. surprised? :-D
	11:58am Doug Schulkind: Answering Linda lee @11:07 Stonington, Maine
	🥁 11:58am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Jeff: some of us were contacted for, er, our "generous" amount of comments on the boards. I was told to keep it to 20 per show. <3
	11:58am Linda Lee: lovely, Doug! :-)
	🥁 11:58am doctorjazz: Great show, fun comments, great week all!
	11:59am fleep: Thank you for a great morning wake up, Jeff.
	11:59am Clam Dog: I love you all, too!
	11:59am Linda Lee: thanks so much, Jeff! beautiful show! (final comment today. so there.)
	🥁 12:00pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): Eat more clams!
	12:00pm Howard Johnson: All you can eat clams!
	12:00pm fred: Thanks Jeff! I hope whatever keeps you from the radio next week proves enjoyable. And happy birthday to your dad!
	12:03pm Doug Schulkind: Maybe just maybe get used to hearing Stork around these parts... Stay tuned.
	12:03pm Stanley: Thanks Jeff Great stuff, guys
	12:04pm fred: @Doug: that sounds like (possibly) great news
	12:05pm Jeff Golick: Bye for now--and thanks!--@Linda Lee; @GST; @HoJo; @fred; @Stanley; our benefactor @fleep; @doc; and @rw (hi/bye)!

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