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Favoriting November 17, 2019: New & old, Kongshaug and Rudd.

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Artist Track Album Label Year Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Favoriting Congliptious  Nessa    0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 

The Perfect Man   Favoriting

My Brother The Wind, Vol. I 

Saturn Research 

1970 

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Junius Paul  Bowl Hit   Favoriting Ism  International Anthem  2019  0:04:35 (Pop-up)
Avram Fefer  Song for Dyani   Favoriting Testament  Clean Feed  2019  0:08:26 (Pop-up)
Geometry  Sun Grazing   Favoriting Geometry of Distance  Relative Pitch Records  2019  0:12:07 (Pop-up)
Daniel Carter, Brad Farberman, Billy Martin  Prince of Naps > Prince of Hair   Favoriting Just Don't Die  Ropeadope  2019  0:22:42 (Pop-up)
Aaron Novik  Room of Lost Love - Loss of Lost Love   Favoriting The Hotel of 13 Losses  Aaron Novik  2019  0:30:09 (Pop-up)
Aaron Novik  Ballroom of Lost Faith - Lost Dignity - Lost Soul   Favoriting The Hotel of 13 Losses  Aaron Novik  2019  0:34:25 (Pop-up)
John Chantler  We're Always at the End (Part 1)   Favoriting Tomorrow Is Too Late  Room40  2019  0:36:56 (Pop-up)
Katarsis4  Vai capi as buvau sauna mergele   Favoriting Katarsis4  NoBusiness Records  2019  0:40:15 (Pop-up)
Charles Rumback & Ryley Walker  Idiot Parade   Favoriting Little Common Twist  Thrill Jockey  2019  0:47:01 (Pop-up)
David S. Ware Quartet  Reflection   Favoriting Théâtre Garonne, 2008  AUM Fidelity  2019  0:51:04 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & The MGs 

Melting Pot   Favoriting

 

 

 

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Made to Break  Meccano Number 7 (for Julio Cortazar)   Favoriting F4 Fake  Trost Records  2019  1:09:54 (Pop-up)
Keefe Jackson's Project Project  Dragon Fly   Favoriting Just Like This  Delmark  2007  1:23:26 (Pop-up)
Matt Wilson Quartet  Why Can't We Be Friends?   Favoriting That's Gonna Leave a Mark  Palmetto  2009  1:34:38 (Pop-up)
J Mascis  Don't Do Me Like That   Favoriting Don't Do Me Like That  Sub Pop  2019  1:38:45 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Natural Food 

Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay   Favoriting

 

 

 

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Engineered by Jan Erik Kongshaug (RIP)
Jan Garbarek  Fountain of Tears - Part I and II   Favoriting SART  ECM  1971  1:47:15 (Pop-up)
Terje Rypdal  Lontano II   Favoriting Terje Rypdal  ECM  1971  1:53:24 (Pop-up)
Paul Bley  Ida Lupino   Favoriting Open, to Love  ECM  1973  1:58:29 (Pop-up)
Bennie Maupin  Mappo   Favoriting The Jewel in the Lotus  ECM  1974  2:05:01 (Pop-up)
John Abercrombie  Red and Orange   Favoriting Timeless  ECM  1975  2:12:34 (Pop-up)
Old and New Dreams  Togo   Favoriting Old and New Dreams  ECM  1979  2:17:17 (Pop-up)
Jack DeJohnette  Dream Stalker   Favoriting New Directions  ECM  1978  2:22:54 (Pop-up)
John Clark  Silver Rain, Pt. III   Favoriting Faces  ECM  1981  2:28:41 (Pop-up)
Barre Phillips  Ingul-Buz   Favoriting Three Day Moon  ECM  1978  2:34:42 (Pop-up)
Bill Connors  Sad Hero   Favoriting Theme to the Gaurdian  ECM  1975  2:38:32 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Mouse on Mars 

Fantastic Analysis   Favoriting

 

 

 

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Marshall Allen (feat. Roswell Rudd)  The Summoning   Favoriting Ceremonial Healing  RareNoise Records  2019  2:50:21 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 

Flute Music   Favoriting

Flute Music 

Caroline 

1975 

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Listener comments!

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fred:

Hello Jeff and listeners
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holland oats:

yo d:o! peeps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
Jeff Golick:

Welcome, @fred, welcome, @holland oats!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am
ParUbi:

Good morning, exonauts!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...never know when the WiFis will be on to steal in my trap
....always righteous to catch most of D.O. !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
listener james from westwood:

Had a feeling we might be fêting that luminary today.
  9:05am
Doug Schulkind:

Sunday morning and my tatas are in a twist!
  9:05am
Doug Schulkind:

Speaking of a twist, I’ll be back after yoga.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am
Jeff Golick:

Good morning to you, @ParUbi!
Steal away, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
@listener james knows what's up!
@Doug, twist away!
  9:13am
?:

Gorgeous stuff, Jeff! Glad to be keeping the tributes to Jan Erik Kongshaug going during The Stork Club later today. Between us both we can only scratch the surface of this guy's output.
  9:14am
Stork:

oops! forgot to ID meself on that last comment. Helloooo, Outsters!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15am
Jeff Golick:

@Stork, my Sunday budday! Had a feeling that was you!
  9:16am
Stork:

None other, sadly... despite all the make-overs, i remain me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am
ParUbi:

Is "Geometry" also "Geometry of Caves"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27am
Jeff Golick:

Yes, it is! The quartet appears to have adopted "Geometry" as the group name.

(Remind me not to take my eye off of the decks in order to write a comment.)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:29am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

…hopping aboard for the sonic journey with you! Greetings, Jeff and all d:O riders!
Avatar 🥁 9:30am
hyde:

gooooood morning
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am
Jeff Golick:

Welcome aboard, @Granny Spicy Tuna!

What is up, @hyde? Good to see you!
Avatar 🥁 9:34am
hyde:

just lazin' around and listening to DO Radio
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Jeff Golick:

Hey, me too.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:39am
WR:

Requesting permission to come aboard for Destination: OUT, sir.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am
ParUbi:

Ooh, looks like that Geometry album comes out next month-- no wonder I couldn't find it. That track was delicious.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Jeff Golick:

@WR, permission granted, and feel free to walk about the cabin.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Jeff Golick:

@ParUbi, glad you liked it; I keep coming back to that record. (Probably shouldn't be jumping the gun like that, though.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am
Jeff Golick:

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and declare Katarsis4 the greatest sax quartet to come out of Lithuania.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
ParUbi:

I have a fingernail's grip on Mandarin Chinese, but I was able to create a Xiami account for myself and clumsily explore the mainland Chinese jazz underground and make some penpals. There's apparently quite a scene in Beijing. I think fishing in distant or newly openned pools is so rewarding.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
coelacanth∅:

good morning Jeff, OUTies
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am
Jeff Golick:

WOW, @ParUbi, that sounds cool as hell.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am
Jeff Golick:

Greets, @coelacanth∅!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am
ParUbi:

Here's one guy I remember: 李鐵橋
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55am
ParUbi:

The characters google fairly well lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:57am
coelacanth∅:

those characters bring many results on duckduckgo, none of which i know what to do with!
- except some youboob videos for later
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58am
ParUbi:

I have to make that switch to duckduckgo, with Google's "don't be evil" becoming such a joke
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59am
coelacanth∅:

that's awesome you could do that though,PU -like knowing the secret password for a club
Avatar 10:01am
Linda Lee:

hello! love these beautiful sounds on a grey November day!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02am
ParUbi:

It really felt like it too. I had to set up a VPN for streaming through Xiami. It was about as hacker as I've ever been.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am
Jeff Golick:

@Linda Lee!
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Linda Lee:

hi Jeff! :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04am
coelacanth∅:

i think i could only learn another language by being immersed. i've tried the formal way with no success but picked up phrases fairly easily around friends and family.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04am
ParUbi:

Hi Linda!
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Linda Lee:

hi ParUbi! :-) what's that image?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:06am
WR:

Time flies, Ware transitioned in 2012.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am
ParUbi:

Haha, it's just some logs poking out of the water with an overcast sky reflected.
Avatar 10:07am
Linda Lee:

wow! i was guessing someone had painted some wood chunks against a sky. very cool.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am
fred:

There have been a few Chinese people applying for jobs at work, but sadly it's not possible because of visa denial issues. The Man is worried about them stealing our business secrets. But if contemporary music is so big economically, how come funding is so scarce?
Avatar 10:11am
Linda Lee:

Jeff, your whole show gives me food i didn't know i was hungry for. thanks! :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11am
ParUbi:

It cheers me to know, however, that there are experimental weirdos all over the world. So, with all the tension between our governments, there are just a load of freaks who want to connect.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Jeff Golick:

@Linda Lee, that warms my heart.
Avatar 10:13am
Linda Lee:

happy to do so! that warms mine! :-D
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duke:

Hello Jeff and everyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13am
Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @duke!
  10:14am
davefromtoronto:

this show is like a delicious meal but i have to finish the
brussel sprouts to get dessert...
Avatar 10:15am
Linda Lee:

@ParUbi ~ 'course, the big boys in charge know no nationality ~ so these governments all connect on some level as well!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am
Jeff Golick:

Belatedly: I totally cosign the move AWAY from Google and to something like Duck Duck Go, which I have made my default search engine on all devices. I've been reading a book called THE AGE OF SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM (Mark Hurst had the author on his show several months back), and it's blowing my mind.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am
Jeff Golick:

(of course, there is also google maps, gmail, google drive, etc. to worry about.)
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Linda Lee:

refer to comment above. :-D
it's madness to expect our new world to function like a 20th century place. heads up kids!
Avatar 🥁 10:17am
hyde:

google is the worst
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:17am
Jeff Golick:

Hi, @davefromtoronto! What are the Brussels sprouts? What is dessert?
Avatar 10:18am
Linda Lee:

i don't think we've found the means for active resistance quite yet, but some of us are working on it.
Avatar 🥁 10:18am
hyde:

my favorite description of Google came from an ex exec there who called it "an advertising company with a lot of expensive hobbies"
Avatar 10:19am
Linda Lee:

ha!! good one.
nice looking avatar ya got there, hyde!
  10:19am
davefromtoronto:

the brussel sprouts are usually the crazy sax solos - the rest is
all dessert!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:19am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oh, yeah, Linda Lee, some of us are working on it!
Avatar 10:20am
Linda Lee:

oh dear. here come the Lesspeyuns..
good morning hon!
Avatar 🥁 10:22am
hyde:

@Linda thanks! it's a pic of my long gone one-eyed cat Satu
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Linda Lee:

a special cat for sure. i can tell.
Avatar 🥁 10:23am
hyde:

she was one of the greats
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23am
coelacanth∅:

i like brussels sprouts if they're done well. i Love David S Ware.
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Linda Lee:

there's something about those black cats..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am
ParUbi:

@Coel-- I've been teaching myself Chinese with an app for years now. I've discovered that I'm forgetting the language as the same rate that I'm learning it.
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Linda Lee:

@ParUbi ~ is that due to lack of conversational practice?
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doctorjazz:

Hello assembled Outies!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am
coelacanth∅:

oh ParUbi that's excellent! ...and terrible!
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Linda Lee:

hey dj! :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27am
Jeff Golick:

Yo, @doctorjazz!
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Linda Lee:

my god look at that ram! almost a traditional symbol all by hisself!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:28am
WR:

I couldn't tell when it transitioned to next tune until the trombones took over. Both tunes are out with swinging pulse.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am
fred:

Yet there is a positive side to google knowing all about me: very ambiguous searches do come up with tour date for bands. Duck Duck Go doesn't find these. And I guess my search history is so specific that google doesn't bother showing me adds anymore
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am
ParUbi:

@Linda-- Exactly.
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Linda Lee:

so you can absorb, but the brain's missing the habit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30am
Jeff Golick:

@fred: that is indeed the trade-off. Whether google "knowing" you is a good thing or not is perhaps just a personal preference.
Avatar 10:32am
Linda Lee:

me, i'd prefer they didn't, if i can pick up the slack myself ~ ony because there's absolutely no way of knowing how your tracking information is being used & by whom. all *kinds* of folks who are interested in how you think & will pay to know.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am
coelacanth∅:

oh and @10.11 it's a great discovery. it's always come out in bits but over the last couple of years i've heard so much way-the-fuck out there music from far away lands, a lot of which was made decades ago, when my mind imagined such an ocean (pun intended!) between our worlds.
...yes a like little mycelium networks eventually stretching out to meet each-other and create a huge mycelium of freaks!
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Linda Lee:

it's not what you buy, for example, but how. behavioral stuff. the way you make connections & process information. the way you communicate & with whom..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am
fred:

My take is using/training google for music/work searches, and using Duck Duck Go for more personal things. I get tailored results when I need them (though I still haven't managed to get google to give me info about the Korean/Japanese band 01)
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Linda Lee:

i think we can pretty much assume that we're all engaged in the development of AI now. so: behavioral stuff.
Avatar 🥁 10:35am
hyde:

there's a fascinating WSJ article on Friday that details how Google engineers chose to alter the search algorithms so that it favored big businesses over smaller ones
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:35am
doctorjazz:

Cool set!
(Reminds me...Maria Schneider will be playing in a few weeks, like hearing new big bands)
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Linda Lee:

@hyde, i'll bet that's super basic stuff by now.
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hyde:

another cool factoid in that piece was that Google made $116 billion in advertising revenue in just the last year
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37am
fred:

I should add that I'm pretty paranoid, with many email addresses and browser settings. I'll have to bring that down a notch because I ran into more issues than usual during the October fundraiser
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:37am
doctorjazz:

Got to see simmering I've wanted to catch forages Friday, David Grisman. Still Got his chops (and he's very cute).
Avatar 10:39am
Linda Lee:

the worst part of this is, there's just no way to opt out at this point. not really, if you communicate at all with anyone else on earth. so resistance will probably involve engagement, not ghosting.
Avatar 🥁 10:40am
hyde:

@Linda Lee yep
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
Jeff Golick:

@LL: have you read this Zuboff book?
Avatar 🥁 10:41am
hyde:

hmmmm, when i used to see J Mascis play drums in Deep Wound at the Greenfield Grange i would never have imagined thirty plus years later there'd be this
Avatar 10:41am
Linda Lee:

i haven't, but i do think i've heard him interviewed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am
ParUbi:

This is another guy who was really active in the Chinese underground music community-- he's well known enough here now to have a bandcamp article about him! daily.bandcamp.com...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:41am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

right on, Linda Lee! (and, hi! i was distracted by some secret Lesspeyun conspiracy there)
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Linda Lee:

good for you, Granny! :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42am
fred:

@Linda Lee: Nothing new there: engagement gets more results than passivity
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Linda Lee:

well said, fred.
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Linda Lee:

i'm thinking passivity isn't even an option!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:44am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

yeah, fred (and hi!)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:45am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

that was a fun cover of Petty
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:45am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

yes, all us exhibitionistic accuchatters need a few accuvoyeurs to confound
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Linda Lee:

actually thought it *was* an older Petty!
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Linda Lee:

accuvoyeurs!! good one!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:46am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

LL: that thought crossed my mind, too!
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Linda Lee:

real similar vocal phrasing.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:48am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

and, hey! all you lurking peepers, i dare you to jump in and say howdy at anytime, it's always a treat to get a fresh opinion around here
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WR:

This Made to Break tune is the first Vandermark project that I've heard I wanted to know and hear more. Always respected his playing but that cut, particularly the electronics with the saxophone swinging outstanding for my taste.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am
Stanley:

Howdy!
But fresh opinion? You'll be lucky!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:49am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

it's always worth a try, Stanley!
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fleep:

Howdy! My opinions are worthless.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i'll settle for moist opinion
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50am
Jeff Golick:

@hyde @ 10:41 - HA!

@LL: Zuboff (a she, btw) was on Mark Hurst's show, a good listen: www.wfmu.org...
  10:51am
John from Florham park:

@Geanny I don’t know if this is a fresh opinion but I am digging the sounds in here
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:51am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

And there it IS!!! fleeeeeeeeeep!
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coelacanth∅:

ParUbi i've got some bookmarked, Thanks

when i searched before i entered "李鐵橋 jazz" and got a few music videos. i just took off the "jazz" and very different results. i still don't know what they mean though!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:51am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

JfFP: [secret handshake]
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Linda Lee:

ah yes. right! thanks.
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coelacanth∅:

fleep! yours too?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am
Jeff Golick:

How do, @Stanley! You're as fresh as they come.
  10:52am
John from Florham park:

@Granny back atcha
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ParUbi:

@Coel-- This is the evil of Google again, but Google translate is pretty useful with this kind of thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Jeff Golick:

@fleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Let us be the judge of that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Jeff Golick:

Good morning, @John from Florham park!
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Linda Lee:

so therein is our problem, ParUbi..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am
coelacanth∅:

it's true duckduckgo doesn't do the translation thing well
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:54am
WR:

I too admit no awareness of Kongshaug before now. There is an interview as reference link on his wikipedia page that is very interesting, modest guy or keeping his technique to himself, hmmmm. Wondering if Marion Brown ECM recording is on your list for today.
  10:54am
John from Florham park:

@Jeff morning back
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hyde:

but wait if fleep's opinions are worthless then isn't fleep's opinion on his opinions being worthless in itself worthless
Avatar 10:55am
Linda Lee:

i'm not sure we've ever known a more insidious danger to our common well being ~ because this one works from the inside, on what appears to be a voluntary basis.
Avatar 🥁 10:56am
hyde:

(or hers)
  10:56am
John from Florham park:

@granny
@linda lee what is this secret conspiracy you are talking about:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Jeff Golick:

Hey, @WR, that Brown is an all-timer, but I don't think Kongshaug worked on that one - was recorded in NYC.
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Linda Lee:

you mean the Lesspeyuns? heck they're everywhere!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

JfFp: most men would like to know and very few would understand :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Jeff Golick:

Kongshaug NYTimes obit: www.nytimes.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
coelacanth∅:

and on my laptop gobble maps is far better than ddg's; but that might be a preferences thing i can change.
usually i just pull up a map on duckduckgo and find the route myself... almost the old-fashioned way; rather than let gobble make my route, and know my whereabouts
  10:58am
John from Florham park:

@Granny ha ha ha
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:59am
doctorjazz:

Ida Lupino, no?
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

coelacanth∅: yeah, it's worth the adjustment, even if we've been acclimated to the relative convenience of gobble. What price this convenience?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59am
coelacanth∅:

hyde, good point. i don't think we should believe him;
his opinions are not worthless...
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Stork:

Terje Rypdal's music can be skeery!! I've got one by TR coming up on The Stork Club. The "brief" tribute I had planned has grown like a magic beanstalk since this morning - it's now a rather lengthy affair, and I'm still discovering more - so I do hope you're diggin' the Kongshaug. Ooh! Bley!! Yay!!!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:00am
doctorjazz:

My playlist doesn't seem to Havre it listed (it's or of sync with the audio)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:00am
Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fleep is our accuherder, i shall not rant
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01am
Jeff Golick:

Human error, @doc!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:01am
doctorjazz:

Now it's there..weird.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oh this Paul Bley is lovely
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WR:

Be very careful with Gogg translation. I have several Chinese co-workers and when I use the machine translation for their social media sometimes it is really bizarre and if we weren't able check due to their being fairly fluent in English, major misunderstanding could result.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:02am
doctorjazz:

Always did love this tune (Ida Lupino, that is)
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hyde:

i've got an Ida Lupino film (The Hitchhiker, a good one) playing in the background on TCM right now!
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doctorjazz:

Carla wrote it.
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Linda Lee:

Granny, i'm seeing a society packed into a speeding car on a winding cliffside road & we're thinkin' about learning to steer!
'course it's a driverless car.
  11:04am
John from Florham park:

Oh and earlier you were all talking about Chinese jazz players too bad there is the Great Wall of China that you can’t hear stations like this
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Linda Lee:

yes it's taking us places .. but, but..
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WR:

RE: the Marion Brown "Faun..." date, wow, misinformed since 1970 I have been.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Linda Lee: worry not, if we go over the edge it's usually a soft landing
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Jeff Golick:

I may be wrong about that, @WR, as this Maupin was also recorded in NYC so who knows. Those very early ECMs were not overseen by Either, I believe; he was given tapes.
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Linda Lee:

ah! so it's safe to jump out early!
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Jeff Golick:

(Eicher, for Either above.)
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oh, i was thinking of the secret society!!!! hee hee!!!!
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Linda Lee:

oh!! hahaha!!
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doctorjazz:

Didn't get to the ECM tribute, (Jazz at Lincoln Center), heard from someone there it was great.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

as famous Lesspeyun wannabe, David Lee Roth, said, "Might as well jump."
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doctorjazz:

Though the rumor was that Eicher had some health issues
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Linda Lee:

was he? outed!!
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WR:

Linda Lee @11:03, more problematic is that it appears driverless but several major forces are trying to control and are eyeing us as potential fuel rather than passengers.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

WR: astute observation indeed
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Linda Lee:

sure! someone created the damn thing & put us in it!
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Linda Lee:

absolutely right on.
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fred:

For a while I regularly annoyed DJs asking them to name who engineered their live sets. Until one influential DJ told me it was disrespectful to DJs, and to stop or else, so I stopped
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Jeff Golick:

That is lame, @fred. Unusual, too, in my experience, as most DJs I know are all too eager to credit the engineer.
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Linda Lee:

'stop or else' ..? who's in charge here, Al Capone? :-D
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

so we disrespect engineers instead? huh?
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Jeff Golick:

(to be clear: lame that you were told it was disrespectful.)
  11:17am
John from Florham park:

@WR more like Soylent green
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doctorjazz:

This Abercrombe is great fusion!
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hyde:

i bought this Old and New Dreams when it came out. so great.
  11:20am
Doug Schulkind:

Blackwell on this piece!
  11:21am
Doug Schulkind:

Sounds like three or four percussionists. Breathtaking.
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doctorjazz:

Great band!
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Jeff Golick:

And the Drummer hisself emerges!
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fred:

His point was the DJ made things happen, he'd credit the engineer if they did a good enough job. But that call is his, not a mere listener's
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Linda Lee:

beautiful work.
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doctorjazz:

He managed to get New Orleans feel initio 3a free jazz context.
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i have a friend who is a union light designer and the thanks she gets. oy, when she does her job well, no one notices
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coelacanth∅:

fred, that "influential" dj sounds like an arrogant schmuck
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Linda Lee:

sort of like a midwife, isn't she! :-)
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

LL: let's see how far influential DJs get without compotent engineers, and how mana gala events succeed without proper lighting
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

*many
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Linda Lee:

even better yet, let's not! :-)
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

let's just credit each other for our work and leave the egos in the nap room
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Linda Lee:

right on!
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Jeff Golick:

Rare jazz French horn here, via John Clark.
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doctorjazz:

You could do many shows never leaving the ECM catalog!
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fred:

@GST: I think you can tell the most crucial jobs by how you only notice them when they mess up. Like foundation, you expect them to be there, until they're not, and then you're in trouble
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Jeff Golick:

Yeah, ECM is sort of squeezing out my planned Roswell Rudd nod.
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Jeff Golick:

@fred/@GST: I'm a book editor. I brought home a book I'd worked on recently, and showed by daughter. She asked, "Is your name in it?" When I said no, she lost all interest.
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Doug Schulkind:

I believe Stork will be paying tribute to the “ECM sound” on the Stork Club, coming up next on the Drummer Stream.
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WR:

Damnit Jeff, you and the GTD stream commentors have done it again, I had planned to finish some work reports this morning and while I'm reading the NYT obit the wife says, when are we going to start making lunch and my work laptop was never opened. Another lovely Sunday morning with D:O.
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Jeff Golick:

YES! You're...welcome, @WR?
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fred:

@Jeff: At least she's still showing interest in whether your name is in it, not hers. Count your blessings
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doctorjazz:

You've actually never left 1970s ECM.
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Jeff Golick:

And YES: The Stork Club, up at the top of the hour, digs deeper into that Kongshaug Konception: wfmu.org...
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Jeff Golick:

@doc: yeah, made kind of a conscious decision to mine that period.
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Doug Schulkind:

Drummer Stream 10th anniversary is coming up next summer.
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doctorjazz:

I hadn't heard he passed (what happens when you sleep in, just saw the obit).
It's interesting how things/opinions change over time. The ECM sound, now pretty much universally praised, earlyon was criticized often for being "dry".
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

yay, a decade of my favorite stream! By gum, i hope to be the one to adopt this stream next year, when fleep's turn ends
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fred:

@Doug: so the dreaded teen years are soon coming upon us (well, you)
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doctorjazz:

Almost went for the adoption myself this year...
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

doctorjazz: i tried, but that cunning fleep was too stealth and swift for me!
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doctorjazz:

Got to see Old and New Dreams, and once a duet of Blackwell and Cherry in a dive bar in the East Village.
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alanr:

Thank you for including the 84th birthday man, Roswell!
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doctorjazz:

Great Show (as usual), Jeff, thanks!
(Rudd was great!)
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Linda Lee:

once there were dive bars packed with magic!
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fred:

You won't get competition from me. I take adoption way too seriously (my brother and sister were adopted). But you can fall back to a worthy show like this one
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fred: i was adopted, too <3
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Jeff Golick:

You bet, @alanr! Glad you are here for it!
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Jeff Golick:

(@Doug: we should start planning the 10th bday party soon...)
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i take WFMU seriously, but fleep is another matter entirely! :)
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fred:

What does it tell about the station that instead of dreading the next marathon, we're planning for it months in advance?
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Linda Lee:

thanks so much for a beautiful show, Jeff! perfect!
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Jeff Golick:

My absolute pleasure, @LL!
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davefromtoronto:

great show jeff - even the brussel sprouts tasted good!
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

this Allen track is magnificent
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Jeff Golick:

Yay, @davefromtoronto!
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Linda Lee:

it helps if the sprouts are fresh & well cooked. :-)
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hyde:

thanks!
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fleep:

Cunning fleep just made himself a kugel while inspired by the ECM set. Full credit to the noodlemaker, Manischewitz. And GST, next year, this baby's yours, if we get the adoption board to play ball.
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fred:

Brussel sprouts are off limits for me (blood thinners) but this show is what I need!
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Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oh, we must be OUT. Thanks, Jeff and folx!
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listener james from westwood:

Lovely stuff for a gloomy Sunday—thanks, Jeff!
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doctorjazz:

(Over time I've been able to listen with my wife around without headphones (you've helped, Jeff). Even went t to see BassDrumBone with me (wouldn't say she loved it, though...)
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fleep:

Thanks, Jeff!
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fred:

Thanks Jeff!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Jeff! Excellent as always!
take care
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Jeff Golick:

Thank YOU, @GST, @ljfw, @doc, @fleep, @fred, and @coel and all who lurk just out of sight!
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