WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from March 16, 2020

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtarantined!
	6:00pm Ike: Love the cartoon at left.
	🤖 6:01pm Webhamster Henry: There's some tech news out there still!
	6:01pm melinda: Hi everyone!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Ike, Webham, Melinda! Thanks for joining in.
	🤖 6:01pm David (in London): Good evening Techniks. Hey ultradamno. Hi melinda.
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Mark and all Techyon particles. Tech Gin is poured -- now let's mix it up!
	6:01pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonivirals!
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hello!
	6:01pm Ike: What's the best home hand san recipe? 60% alcohol, 40% aloe vera gel? 40-60? OK to water it down? Thoughts?
	6:01pm Carmichael: Heya Mark and The Doomed Generation.
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya David!
	6:02pm John from Florham park: Hello fellow technoids
	6:02pm Dan: Allo allo
	6:02pm -Ken: Hello all! Welcome to the new model of half-live programming!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: Here I am, on the comment board!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: ... used a lot on the Sheena Stream though!
	6:03pm Yes: hello past and present mark, everyone
	🤖 6:03pm chresti: The new half normal
	6:03pm brycepunk1: Hello, fellow survivors.
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: The half-life of WFMU^91 is long!
	🤖 6:04pm Bas NL: Hi Ken! And you sound as well as live Mark..
	6:04pm Dave Miss: Hello all isolationists! Including Mark!
	6:04pm John from Florham park: @-Ken as long as the accu chat is open I think we will be ok and will keep our sanity
	6:04pm Dr. Goot: digital handshake confirmed
	6:04pm Mark Hurst: Hi David, James, Handy, Phillippe, Bas, Chresti, Carmichael, Yes, Bryce, Dave - and Ken!
	6:05pm Ignatatus666: Checking in from Putnam Valley Good Morning Mark
	6:05pm Dancasey: I’ve registered for the board so that I appear as a respectable member of online society, greetings to everyone about to hear my horrid honking voice
	6:05pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: @Ken, I don't see many fill-ins on the upcoming fill-ins page yet! Do a lot of people have home studios or do you expect eventually to need to put GTDR or other alternate streams directly onto the air? Very curious to hear what will happen.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: It's the techto-future, today!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Hi Goot, hi Ignatatus!
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Would not mind if all shows periodically featured Ken shouting "FLATTEN THE CURVE" from now on.
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Dan Casey himself, thanks for joining!
	6:05pm Yes: @Handy lol
	6:06pm Dancasey: Hi Mark! Le plaisir, c’est le mien
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: @Handy agreed. There was even a "flatten the Hurrrrrrst" last night, too.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Are you a robot, Mark? Click All Boxes that have emoticons in them . [ ] [ ] [8^)] [ :( ] [8^*] [OOO]
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: It was a thrill to witness, @Mark!
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: Flatten the Big Tech!
	🤖 6:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: The October Silent Marathon will take place in April. NBD
	6:08pm geezerette: Lotta social engineering goin' on.
	🤖 6:09pm Handy Haversack: @geezerette, you said it! Very much so.
	🤖 6:09pm tim from champaign (now washington): FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWS! IT'S COMPLETELY BIG TECHS' FAULT!
	6:10pm geezerette: Howdy, Handy!
	6:10pm TDK60: Hats off to medical workers in our "health" system (USA I mean).
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Thank you, board op!
	6:11pm olivia: it's olivia here!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: Thank you, board op!
	6:11pm Dr. Goot: thanks to the diligent, opportunists, not so much - www.washingtontimes.com...
	6:11pm Adam West Coaster: Where is Peter Thiel flying to? https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e6f9ac9c5b6dda30fce44ba
	6:11pm olivia: board opping til 9pm today :-)
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: Thanks so much, Olivia.
	6:11pm dale: what is half live programming? i feel half dead so it seems apt.
	6:11pm ultradamno: Solution cdn.trendhunterstatic.com...
	6:11pm John from Florham park: Howdy again Olivia
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @dale this is a recording of me, at home, about 90 minutes ago. So almost live... instead of 8-second delay, it's a 90-minute delay.
	6:12pm Dancasey: Yo Olivia, that Young Marble Giants song was absolutely perfect
	6:12pm olivia: yo dancasey. THANKS!
	6:12pm Phillippe Bastille: I think Le Grande Orange said that there are 1200 engineers at Google working on a website.
	6:12pm Mr. Pumpy: Hello, Mark and all the Tecyons... Time for me to reverse the polarity of the deflector shield...see you on the other side.
	6:13pm ultradamno: The POTUS twitter is going to get so much more berserk as rally withdrawal set in.
	6:13pm Ignatatus666: Amazon showing PSA that they are dedicated to find a cure to the common cold I instantly thought of the the guys selling concoctions and cute all’s.
	6:13pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks for staying around Olivia!
	6:14pm geezerette: "service"
	6:15pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: There's no apostrophe in "cure-alls." (Don't blame me for needing to correct you. I cannot help it. I might as well be a bot. Wait... AM I A BOT?!?)
	6:15pm Phillippe Bastille: Amazon said they are hiring 100,000 temp employees to keep up with the demand
	6:15pm olivia: happy to help out & listen to techtonic.
	🤖 6:15pm Handy Haversack: I don't think insurance companies would want to buy any of that information -- then they might have to deny some claims!
	6:15pm melinda: I’ve been avoiding Facebook more and found that checking in lately makes me feel more anxious, not better informed.
	6:16pm dale: verily is a kushner family owned thing, no?
	6:16pm ultradamno: And this potential Google site was only brought up to springboard into a cheap shot at the troubled ACA website launch
	6:16pm dale: thanks mark hurst for the clarification.
	6:16pm geezerette: Amazon Prime must be loving the lockdowns.
	🤖 6:18pm Webhamster Henry: Flatten the Curve kind of sounds like a girdle slogan.
	6:19pm geezerette: ha ha!
	6:19pm dale: playtex - flatten the curve.
	6:19pm Dancasey: Currently assuming that Bezos is preparing to become a prophet/overlord like Ned Beatty in Network, so who’ll be his Peter Finch?
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: COVID-19 advice for an elevator: Lift and Separate.
	6:20pm dale: going to be cancelling netflix or prime. i know the crowd here would say prime.
	6:20pm geezerette: I am Peter Finch!
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: I assume working conditions for all those Amazon temp workers are going to be compassionately attentive to current conditions, right?
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: We're gonna get to Big Tech contractors in a couple minutes.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark -- I should never doubt!
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: Just posted Dan's articles about Big Tech contractors in the "To discuss" section. He's now covering the Washington Post article.
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @dale I'd say cancel Prime
	6:24pm Phillippe Bastille: Speaking of Twitter, here's a very helpful series of tweets from tina nguyen on when we can start fraternizing again: twitter.com...
	6:24pm dale: yes. probably can't afford the stuff i could have delivered for free much longer anyway.
	6:25pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: @dale, this is a particular sort of thing, but if you like trashy, artful, well-choreographed violence, watch "Banshee" first if you haven't already, then cancel Prime. Most excellently ridiculous sex-and-violence TV show I've ever seen. Entire show now on Prime. I'm not much for the sex, which is silly and reductive. But oh, that violence. There's not much else on Prime IMHO though.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose: www.motherjones.com...
	6:26pm ultradamno: I'll be going to the supermarket later, I was thinking of taking an airhorn to set off if anyone gets within six feet of me.
	6:26pm geezerette: Criterion is good.
	6:28pm WR: Mark, your intro was is spot on. Key to this time is to keep track of changes made due to the the emergency to roll them back appropriately. "The future is fun! ... The future is fair! ... You may already have won! ... You may already be there!" - Firesign Theater
	🤖 6:28pm Bas NL: Isn't it what is called 'outsourcing'?
	6:29pm Dancasey: @geezerette Criterion is the jam! The best entertainment $ I spend every month
	6:29pm ultradamno: ...or cancel Prime and pick up the Banshee boxsets with the pocketed money.
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: @WR, thanks!
	🤖 6:30pm David (in London): @ultradamno - It's right now that I'm falling back in love with my attic DVD collection.
	6:30pm geezerette: Dancasey, same!
	6:31pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: Y'all are classier than me with the Criterion. I always say I'm going to subscribe to Criterion but then instead I just keep watching (at best) stuff like Westworld, The Magicians, or Altered Carbon instead.
	6:31pm dale: i honestly watch pluto more than anything. my wife and i can't agree on movie genre's so we rarely watch either of those two together.
	6:31pm ultradamno: @DIL Yeah, and speaking of Criterion, I pulled out my Imamura discs for semi-quarantine viewing
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: @WR ... more like Firesign's Beat The Reaper!
	6:32pm dale: lord, i have a TON of vhs tapes.
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: Movie viewers: if your Library system has Kanopy, I recommend it!
	6:33pm ultradamno: @\ⓔⓘⓚ/ Co-sign on The Magicians! Also The End of the Fxxxking World (too on the nose?)
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: Black Adder and Twin Peaks and the Young Ones on VHS -- that will save us.
	6:34pm Dr. Goot: This pandemic itself is the best reality show on the planet by far - youtu.be...
	🤖 6:34pm David (in London): @Handy - Add in 'Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy' to that, and I'll be right round. I'm sure you and Kate must have a spare room.
	6:35pm dale: i have all the monty python on vhs. and some gumby episodes i recorded in the 80s.
	6:35pm geezerette: Tapes! Laser Discs! We keep meaning to get Kanopy. Lots of Art Docs.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @dale 80s gumby was the BEST
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Our ceiling is almost entirely unoccupied, @David -- and the vulnerability is part of the profit there, too!
	6:36pm ultradamno: Speaking of pandemic entertainment, Mr. Hurst's retweet made me aware of this incredible footage twitter.com...
	6:36pm dale: pre prickle and goo mark.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: @ultra if all goes well I'll play an excerpt of that in my next Tech Pie segment.
	🤖 6:37pm Bas NL: I know Autodesk.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: Generative design articles: I've posted Dan's picks in the "To discuss" section. (Also Dan's Twitter feed, which we don't mention at all!)
	6:38pm chris: Autodesk homed here in Marin County, CA
	6:38pm chris: and, hi, folks!
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @chris hi! thanks for joining.
	🤖 6:39pm Webhamster Henry: I've seen some pretty crazy looking AI designed designs - they can design 3d printed things that minimize material used while maximizing strength. Kind of like the evolution of bones and joints!
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: autodesk bought eagle schematic software, now subscription software vs paying once
	6:40pm Phillippe Bastille: A couple shows (one I mentioned earlier on another board, so please excuse my repeating it) that I overlooked because they were on the crappy WB broadcast network that are worth a look are Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Jane the Virgin. CEG is better in smaller doses, but the song and dance sequences are both well-executed and very funny. Guilty pleasure fodder, but fun distractions.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @Webham this is a little different from that. As Dan points out this particular feature is more about choosing from a bunch of different options.
	6:41pm Peter from Dover NJ: Hello Mark, i love your program. Since you've brought up Adobe, im hoping that you can examine how they've become a monopolistic, overpriced, price gouging company. Thank you and be safe.
	6:41pm geezerette: Apparently Frank Ghery was an early adopter of that softwear.
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: Interesting that you said Twitter was your preferred monitor right now, Mark. I have been using primary sources: MTA, BOE, mayor's office, etc. I don't use Twitter in normal times, either, though friends share links to specific tweets. But I mentioned to one who does use it that it seemed like an absolute meat grinder of a way to pay attention to the current situation, and he gave a "hard agree." You must have a well-curated feed already so that the churn, foam, and froth (which can be denatured by an alcohol-based sanitizer) are kept at least 4' away.
	6:41pm Mark Hurst: @Peter thanks! And you're right, Adobe is well worth some examination.
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: There's always an editorial component - so far. But .. like AlphaGO, eventually , the choices will be better than human intelligence can evaluate.
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: (Jane the Virgin is a really touching show, @Phillippe! I had one-L Feelings!)
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: @Webham for a game of go or chess, would agree with you. For something very much in a human environment like a building, hafta disagree with you.
	6:43pm WR: Webhamster Henry @631, good point. That is a good parable of the current individual experience but we also are experiencing pressure of tech consumer transformation? Can it be that we are in both places at once? And Mark's and Dan's current tangent spun by Autodesk sounds just like a FST bit.
	6:43pm Mark Hurst: @Handy it's definitely got problems. Looking forward to using it less, on the other side of this corona mess.
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: GO is more complicated and subtle than architecture.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Apple actually does do that, making "Trailers" out of your footage in iMovie.
	6:45pm WR: It is like a real writer get auto text as they write a novel or article.
	6:46pm geezerette: It's an imagination killer. ?too many options.
	6:46pm ultradamno: By the way, looking at the cartoon...why aren't facial tissues also being hoarded?
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: The AI-driven email generator is linked in Daniel Davis's blog post, listed in the "To discuss" section. You can try it yourself on that web page.
	6:47pm Dave Miss: I’m an old-school designer. Auto designing is like the ultimate step and repeat. It never works correctly!
	🤖 6:47pm Handy Haversack: Sounds like exciting cross-platform opportunities await in times like these, @dancasey!
	6:48pm ♪Kɛ: @ultra, good question. My local market was out of TP but not facial tissues, so I just grabbed the latter.
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: Let's keep laughing at AI straw men based on already-surpassed tech. I'm saying we're at the very very very beginning of an exponential process.
	6:49pm Adam West Coaster: Mark, I simply want to say I am really enjoying this dialogue between you and Dan, and am looking forward to more of this collaboration.
	6:49pm Dancasey: The email generator is an utter delight, I cackled
	6:49pm Dancasey: @Adam thanks man!
	🤖 6:49pm Handy Haversack: I think you know why, MARK.
	6:49pm Mark Hurst: @Adam, thanks! You can tell, Dan & I had a good time talking. It was nice to laugh about some of the news...
	6:50pm geezerette: Webham@6:49, yep.
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Old father, old artificer, stand me now, as ever, in good stead.
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: Oh let's lighten up - no need to defend the feelings of the AI engine!
	6:51pm Cmurtha: Isn't Zoltan the god in the cult from Bubbel Boy?
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Not the machine that made Tom Hanks BIG?
	6:52pm chris: wasn't that Zoltron?
	6:53pm geezerette: I live in LA. The future is now and it's ugly.
	🤖 6:53pm David (in London): It was Zoltar the Magnificent!
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Zardoz! I mean, David!
	6:54pm chris: ah, thanks, David. of course. Zoltron Loves You.
	6:54pm ♪Kɛ: Hey @Mark, where's this variation on the "this is fine" dog from? Love it!
	🤖 6:55pm Folsom: i like the old joke, civil engineers design buildings no one would go in, architects design buildings that wouldn't stand up
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: (Bringing the ADVENTURE)
	6:55pm mndave: This has had me howling for the last ten minutes!
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Well, half-live Mark and Techtonic is still better than the actual live tech world and all that goes along with it. Thanks, Mark and Dan Casey! So appreciated. And thank YOU, Zoltar!
	🤖 6:55pm David (in London): I love those Zoltar machines. There is still one here on Eastbourne Pleasure Pier. It went berzerk on me a few years ago and started spitting out cards at me. Zardoz (in London).
	6:55pm chris: moving walkways throughout!
	🤖 6:56pm Folsom: zork, you mean adventure!
	6:56pm listener james from westwood: I'd prefer a grue to COVID-19.
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks!
	6:56pm chris: that was great. thanks, guys.
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @Webham @Folsom thanks for correcting me! Adventure it is.
	🤖 6:57pm Handy Haversack: Protect the universe, Voltron! (Also one of our cats.)
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @mndave thanks! It was a fun one.
	6:57pm Dave Miss: This is fine
	6:57pm geezerette: Mark, Dan, gang, fun show!
	6:57pm Dancasey: Thanks all for listening and for Mark for having me on, that was fun!
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: I may have a FORTRAN copy of the source of ADVENTURE's game engine somewhere!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Dan!
	🤖 6:58pm Handy Haversack: L8r, sk8rs!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone, for listening in! See you next week.
	6:58pm melinda: Thanks guys!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Stay at home everyone! #teleworksince1997
	6:59pm Dr. Goot: Thank You!
	6:59pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark, and be safe, all!
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @Dan thanks for being with us! Great chat.
	6:59pm dale: henry - get on your amigo and solve all this.
	7:00pm WR: The best part of Dan's comments was clarification of reasons for out sourcing.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from March 16, 2020

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Tonight: Special reporter Dan Casey

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To discuss:

• Google's Corona tracker has no HIPAA coverage. See more about Verily in this Verge article.

• Sleeping Giants post on Twitter: "While @google is making everyone log in to capture their data while screening for Coronavirus, @LVMH is making hand sanitizer for free. You can tell a lot about a company in the bad times."

• Chris Gilliard's thread: "Ongoing thread on intersection of privacy/tech/surveillance/coronavirus."

• Dan's articles about Big Tech contractors: the Washington Post, the Guardian, and the Intercept.

• Dan's articles on generative design: Architect Magazine, Daniel Davis's blog post (including his AI-driven email generator - try it yourself on that page!), and Urban Omnibus.

• Dan Casey on Twitter: @casimal

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Techtarantined!
	6:00pm Ike: Love the cartoon at left.
	🤖 6:01pm Webhamster Henry: There's some tech news out there still!
	6:01pm melinda: Hi everyone!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Ike, Webham, Melinda! Thanks for joining in.
	🤖 6:01pm David (in London): Good evening Techniks. Hey ultradamno. Hi melinda.
	6:01pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Mark and all!
	🤖 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Mark and all Techyon particles. Tech Gin is poured -- now let's mix it up!
	6:01pm Phillippe Bastille: Howdy.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Techtonivirals!
	🤖 6:01pm chresti: Hello!
	6:01pm Ike: What's the best home hand san recipe? 60% alcohol, 40% aloe vera gel? 40-60? OK to water it down? Thoughts?
	6:01pm Carmichael: Heya Mark and The Doomed Generation.
	6:02pm ultradamno: Hiya David!
	6:02pm John from Florham park: Hello fellow technoids
	6:02pm Dan: Allo allo
	6:02pm -Ken: Hello all! Welcome to the new model of half-live programming!
	6:03pm Mark Hurst: Here I am, on the comment board!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: ... used a lot on the Sheena Stream though!
	6:03pm Yes: hello past and present mark, everyone
	🤖 6:03pm chresti: The new half normal
	6:03pm brycepunk1: Hello, fellow survivors.
	🤖 6:03pm Handy Haversack: The half-life of WFMU^91 is long!
	🤖 6:04pm Bas NL: Hi Ken! And you sound as well as live Mark..
	6:04pm Dave Miss: Hello all isolationists! Including Mark!
	6:04pm John from Florham park: @-Ken as long as the accu chat is open I think we will be ok and will keep our sanity
	6:04pm Dr. Goot: digital handshake confirmed
	6:04pm Mark Hurst: Hi David, James, Handy, Phillippe, Bas, Chresti, Carmichael, Yes, Bryce, Dave - and Ken!
	6:05pm Ignatatus666: Checking in from Putnam Valley Good Morning Mark
	6:05pm Dancasey: I’ve registered for the board so that I appear as a respectable member of online society, greetings to everyone about to hear my horrid honking voice
	6:05pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: @Ken, I don't see many fill-ins on the upcoming fill-ins page yet! Do a lot of people have home studios or do you expect eventually to need to put GTDR or other alternate streams directly onto the air? Very curious to hear what will happen.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: It's the techto-future, today!
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Hi Goot, hi Ignatatus!
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Would not mind if all shows periodically featured Ken shouting "FLATTEN THE CURVE" from now on.
	6:05pm Mark Hurst: Dan Casey himself, thanks for joining!
	6:05pm Yes: @Handy lol
	6:06pm Dancasey: Hi Mark! Le plaisir, c’est le mien
	6:06pm Mark Hurst: @Handy agreed. There was even a "flatten the Hurrrrrrst" last night, too.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Are you a robot, Mark? Click All Boxes that have emoticons in them . [ ] [ ] [8^)] [ :( ] [8^*] [OOO]
	🤖 6:07pm Handy Haversack: It was a thrill to witness, @Mark!
	🤖 6:07pm Bas NL: Flatten the Big Tech!
	🤖 6:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: The October Silent Marathon will take place in April. NBD
	6:08pm geezerette: Lotta social engineering goin' on.
	🤖 6:09pm Handy Haversack: @geezerette, you said it! Very much so.
	🤖 6:09pm tim from champaign (now washington): FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWS! IT'S COMPLETELY BIG TECHS' FAULT!
	6:10pm geezerette: Howdy, Handy!
	6:10pm TDK60: Hats off to medical workers in our "health" system (USA I mean).
	6:10pm Mark Hurst: Thank you, board op!
	6:11pm olivia: it's olivia here!
	🤖 6:11pm Handy Haversack: Thank you, board op!
	6:11pm Dr. Goot: thanks to the diligent, opportunists, not so much - www.washingtontimes.com...
	6:11pm Adam West Coaster: Where is Peter Thiel flying to? https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e6f9ac9c5b6dda30fce44ba
	6:11pm olivia: board opping til 9pm today :-)
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: Thanks so much, Olivia.
	6:11pm dale: what is half live programming? i feel half dead so it seems apt.
	6:11pm ultradamno: Solution cdn.trendhunterstatic.com...
	6:11pm John from Florham park: Howdy again Olivia
	6:12pm Mark Hurst: @dale this is a recording of me, at home, about 90 minutes ago. So almost live... instead of 8-second delay, it's a 90-minute delay.
	6:12pm Dancasey: Yo Olivia, that Young Marble Giants song was absolutely perfect
	6:12pm olivia: yo dancasey. THANKS!
	6:12pm Phillippe Bastille: I think Le Grande Orange said that there are 1200 engineers at Google working on a website.
	6:12pm Mr. Pumpy: Hello, Mark and all the Tecyons... Time for me to reverse the polarity of the deflector shield...see you on the other side.
	6:13pm ultradamno: The POTUS twitter is going to get so much more berserk as rally withdrawal set in.
	6:13pm Ignatatus666: Amazon showing PSA that they are dedicated to find a cure to the common cold I instantly thought of the the guys selling concoctions and cute all’s.
	6:13pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks for staying around Olivia!
	6:14pm geezerette: "service"
	6:15pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: There's no apostrophe in "cure-alls." (Don't blame me for needing to correct you. I cannot help it. I might as well be a bot. Wait... AM I A BOT?!?)
	6:15pm Phillippe Bastille: Amazon said they are hiring 100,000 temp employees to keep up with the demand
	6:15pm olivia: happy to help out & listen to techtonic.
	🤖 6:15pm Handy Haversack: I don't think insurance companies would want to buy any of that information -- then they might have to deny some claims!
	6:15pm melinda: I’ve been avoiding Facebook more and found that checking in lately makes me feel more anxious, not better informed.
	6:16pm dale: verily is a kushner family owned thing, no?
	6:16pm ultradamno: And this potential Google site was only brought up to springboard into a cheap shot at the troubled ACA website launch
	6:16pm dale: thanks mark hurst for the clarification.
	6:16pm geezerette: Amazon Prime must be loving the lockdowns.
	🤖 6:18pm Webhamster Henry: Flatten the Curve kind of sounds like a girdle slogan.
	6:19pm geezerette: ha ha!
	6:19pm dale: playtex - flatten the curve.
	6:19pm Dancasey: Currently assuming that Bezos is preparing to become a prophet/overlord like Ned Beatty in Network, so who’ll be his Peter Finch?
	🤖 6:20pm Webhamster Henry: COVID-19 advice for an elevator: Lift and Separate.
	6:20pm dale: going to be cancelling netflix or prime. i know the crowd here would say prime.
	6:20pm geezerette: I am Peter Finch!
	🤖 6:20pm Handy Haversack: I assume working conditions for all those Amazon temp workers are going to be compassionately attentive to current conditions, right?
	6:21pm Mark Hurst: We're gonna get to Big Tech contractors in a couple minutes.
	🤖 6:22pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark -- I should never doubt!
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: Just posted Dan's articles about Big Tech contractors in the "To discuss" section. He's now covering the Washington Post article.
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @dale I'd say cancel Prime
	6:24pm Phillippe Bastille: Speaking of Twitter, here's a very helpful series of tweets from tina nguyen on when we can start fraternizing again: twitter.com...
	6:24pm dale: yes. probably can't afford the stuff i could have delivered for free much longer anyway.
	6:25pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: @dale, this is a particular sort of thing, but if you like trashy, artful, well-choreographed violence, watch "Banshee" first if you haven't already, then cancel Prime. Most excellently ridiculous sex-and-violence TV show I've ever seen. Entire show now on Prime. I'm not much for the sex, which is silly and reductive. But oh, that violence. There's not much else on Prime IMHO though.
	🤖 6:26pm Handy Haversack: Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose: www.motherjones.com...
	6:26pm ultradamno: I'll be going to the supermarket later, I was thinking of taking an airhorn to set off if anyone gets within six feet of me.
	6:26pm geezerette: Criterion is good.
	6:28pm WR: Mark, your intro was is spot on. Key to this time is to keep track of changes made due to the the emergency to roll them back appropriately. "The future is fun! ... The future is fair! ... You may already have won! ... You may already be there!" - Firesign Theater
	🤖 6:28pm Bas NL: Isn't it what is called 'outsourcing'?
	6:29pm Dancasey: @geezerette Criterion is the jam! The best entertainment $ I spend every month
	6:29pm ultradamno: ...or cancel Prime and pick up the Banshee boxsets with the pocketed money.
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: @WR, thanks!
	🤖 6:30pm David (in London): @ultradamno - It's right now that I'm falling back in love with my attic DVD collection.
	6:30pm geezerette: Dancasey, same!
	6:31pm \ⓔⓘⓚ/: Y'all are classier than me with the Criterion. I always say I'm going to subscribe to Criterion but then instead I just keep watching (at best) stuff like Westworld, The Magicians, or Altered Carbon instead.
	6:31pm dale: i honestly watch pluto more than anything. my wife and i can't agree on movie genre's so we rarely watch either of those two together.
	6:31pm ultradamno: @DIL Yeah, and speaking of Criterion, I pulled out my Imamura discs for semi-quarantine viewing
	🤖 6:31pm Webhamster Henry: @WR ... more like Firesign's Beat The Reaper!
	6:32pm dale: lord, i have a TON of vhs tapes.
	🤖 6:32pm Webhamster Henry: Movie viewers: if your Library system has Kanopy, I recommend it!
	6:33pm ultradamno: @\ⓔⓘⓚ/ Co-sign on The Magicians! Also The End of the Fxxxking World (too on the nose?)
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: Black Adder and Twin Peaks and the Young Ones on VHS -- that will save us.
	6:34pm Dr. Goot: This pandemic itself is the best reality show on the planet by far - youtu.be...
	🤖 6:34pm David (in London): @Handy - Add in 'Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy' to that, and I'll be right round. I'm sure you and Kate must have a spare room.
	6:35pm dale: i have all the monty python on vhs. and some gumby episodes i recorded in the 80s.
	6:35pm geezerette: Tapes! Laser Discs! We keep meaning to get Kanopy. Lots of Art Docs.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: @dale 80s gumby was the BEST
	🤖 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Our ceiling is almost entirely unoccupied, @David -- and the vulnerability is part of the profit there, too!
	6:36pm ultradamno: Speaking of pandemic entertainment, Mr. Hurst's retweet made me aware of this incredible footage twitter.com...
	6:36pm dale: pre prickle and goo mark.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: @ultra if all goes well I'll play an excerpt of that in my next Tech Pie segment.
	🤖 6:37pm Bas NL: I know Autodesk.
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: Generative design articles: I've posted Dan's picks in the "To discuss" section. (Also Dan's Twitter feed, which we don't mention at all!)
	6:38pm chris: Autodesk homed here in Marin County, CA
	6:38pm chris: and, hi, folks!
	6:39pm Mark Hurst: @chris hi! thanks for joining.
	🤖 6:39pm Webhamster Henry: I've seen some pretty crazy looking AI designed designs - they can design 3d printed things that minimize material used while maximizing strength. Kind of like the evolution of bones and joints!
	🤖 6:40pm Folsom: autodesk bought eagle schematic software, now subscription software vs paying once
	6:40pm Phillippe Bastille: A couple shows (one I mentioned earlier on another board, so please excuse my repeating it) that I overlooked because they were on the crappy WB broadcast network that are worth a look are Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Jane the Virgin. CEG is better in smaller doses, but the song and dance sequences are both well-executed and very funny. Guilty pleasure fodder, but fun distractions.
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: @Webham this is a little different from that. As Dan points out this particular feature is more about choosing from a bunch of different options.
	6:41pm Peter from Dover NJ: Hello Mark, i love your program. Since you've brought up Adobe, im hoping that you can examine how they've become a monopolistic, overpriced, price gouging company. Thank you and be safe.
	6:41pm geezerette: Apparently Frank Ghery was an early adopter of that softwear.
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: Interesting that you said Twitter was your preferred monitor right now, Mark. I have been using primary sources: MTA, BOE, mayor's office, etc. I don't use Twitter in normal times, either, though friends share links to specific tweets. But I mentioned to one who does use it that it seemed like an absolute meat grinder of a way to pay attention to the current situation, and he gave a "hard agree." You must have a well-curated feed already so that the churn, foam, and froth (which can be denatured by an alcohol-based sanitizer) are kept at least 4' away.
	6:41pm Mark Hurst: @Peter thanks! And you're right, Adobe is well worth some examination.
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: There's always an editorial component - so far. But .. like AlphaGO, eventually , the choices will be better than human intelligence can evaluate.
	🤖 6:42pm Handy Haversack: (Jane the Virgin is a really touching show, @Phillippe! I had one-L Feelings!)
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: @Webham for a game of go or chess, would agree with you. For something very much in a human environment like a building, hafta disagree with you.
	6:43pm WR: Webhamster Henry @631, good point. That is a good parable of the current individual experience but we also are experiencing pressure of tech consumer transformation? Can it be that we are in both places at once? And Mark's and Dan's current tangent spun by Autodesk sounds just like a FST bit.
	6:43pm Mark Hurst: @Handy it's definitely got problems. Looking forward to using it less, on the other side of this corona mess.
	🤖 6:43pm Webhamster Henry: GO is more complicated and subtle than architecture.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: Apple actually does do that, making "Trailers" out of your footage in iMovie.
	6:45pm WR: It is like a real writer get auto text as they write a novel or article.
	6:46pm geezerette: It's an imagination killer. ?too many options.
	6:46pm ultradamno: By the way, looking at the cartoon...why aren't facial tissues also being hoarded?
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: The AI-driven email generator is linked in Daniel Davis's blog post, listed in the "To discuss" section. You can try it yourself on that web page.
	6:47pm Dave Miss: I’m an old-school designer. Auto designing is like the ultimate step and repeat. It never works correctly!
	🤖 6:47pm Handy Haversack: Sounds like exciting cross-platform opportunities await in times like these, @dancasey!
	6:48pm ♪Kɛ: @ultra, good question. My local market was out of TP but not facial tissues, so I just grabbed the latter.
	🤖 6:49pm Webhamster Henry: Let's keep laughing at AI straw men based on already-surpassed tech. I'm saying we're at the very very very beginning of an exponential process.
	6:49pm Adam West Coaster: Mark, I simply want to say I am really enjoying this dialogue between you and Dan, and am looking forward to more of this collaboration.
	6:49pm Dancasey: The email generator is an utter delight, I cackled
	6:49pm Dancasey: @Adam thanks man!
	🤖 6:49pm Handy Haversack: I think you know why, MARK.
	6:49pm Mark Hurst: @Adam, thanks! You can tell, Dan & I had a good time talking. It was nice to laugh about some of the news...
	6:50pm geezerette: Webham@6:49, yep.
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Old father, old artificer, stand me now, as ever, in good stead.
	6:51pm Mark Hurst: Oh let's lighten up - no need to defend the feelings of the AI engine!
	6:51pm Cmurtha: Isn't Zoltan the god in the cult from Bubbel Boy?
	🤖 6:51pm Handy Haversack: Not the machine that made Tom Hanks BIG?
	6:52pm chris: wasn't that Zoltron?
	6:53pm geezerette: I live in LA. The future is now and it's ugly.
	🤖 6:53pm David (in London): It was Zoltar the Magnificent!
	🤖 6:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Zardoz! I mean, David!
	6:54pm chris: ah, thanks, David. of course. Zoltron Loves You.
	6:54pm ♪Kɛ: Hey @Mark, where's this variation on the "this is fine" dog from? Love it!
	🤖 6:55pm Folsom: i like the old joke, civil engineers design buildings no one would go in, architects design buildings that wouldn't stand up
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: (Bringing the ADVENTURE)
	6:55pm mndave: This has had me howling for the last ten minutes!
	🤖 6:55pm Handy Haversack: Well, half-live Mark and Techtonic is still better than the actual live tech world and all that goes along with it. Thanks, Mark and Dan Casey! So appreciated. And thank YOU, Zoltar!
	🤖 6:55pm David (in London): I love those Zoltar machines. There is still one here on Eastbourne Pleasure Pier. It went berzerk on me a few years ago and started spitting out cards at me. Zardoz (in London).
	6:55pm chris: moving walkways throughout!
	🤖 6:56pm Folsom: zork, you mean adventure!
	6:56pm listener james from westwood: I'd prefer a grue to COVID-19.
	6:56pm Mark Hurst: @Handy thanks!
	6:56pm chris: that was great. thanks, guys.
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @Webham @Folsom thanks for correcting me! Adventure it is.
	🤖 6:57pm Handy Haversack: Protect the universe, Voltron! (Also one of our cats.)
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: @mndave thanks! It was a fun one.
	6:57pm Dave Miss: This is fine
	6:57pm geezerette: Mark, Dan, gang, fun show!
	6:57pm Dancasey: Thanks all for listening and for Mark for having me on, that was fun!
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: I may have a FORTRAN copy of the source of ADVENTURE's game engine somewhere!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Dan!
	🤖 6:58pm Handy Haversack: L8r, sk8rs!
	6:58pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone, for listening in! See you next week.
	6:58pm melinda: Thanks guys!
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Stay at home everyone! #teleworksince1997
	6:59pm Dr. Goot: Thank You!
	6:59pm listener james from westwood: Thanks, Mark, and be safe, all!
	6:59pm Mark Hurst: @Dan thanks for being with us! Great chat.
	6:59pm dale: henry - get on your amigo and solve all this.
	7:00pm WR: The best part of Dan's comments was clarification of reasons for out sourcing.

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