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Favoriting May 21, 2020: 'If you're not a reality whose myth are you?' -Sun Ra

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Sun Ra in 'Space is the Place'
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Artist Track Album Label Format Comments New Approx. start time
Meg Baird  friends   Favoriting seasons on earth          0:00:00 (Pop-up)
donovan quinn  october lanterns   Favoriting october lanterns          0:09:19 (Pop-up)
Brigid Mae Power  the two worlds live on wfmu   Favoriting a vivo: this is the modern world fundraising premium 2020          0:09:52 (Pop-up)
jocy de oliveira  a morte do violao   Favoriting a musica do seculo xx          0:12:54 (Pop-up)
ben watt  lucky one   Favoriting north marine drive          0:14:43 (Pop-up)
hamza el din  song with tar   Favoriting escalay: the water wheel          0:19:10 (Pop-up)
Annette Peacock  joy   Favoriting I Belong to a World That's Destroying Itself          0:21:24 (Pop-up)
 
gary higgins  i pick notes from the sky   Favoriting red hash          0:33:40 (Pop-up)
bob dylan & the band  bessie smith   Favoriting the basement tapes          0:37:52 (Pop-up)
una mae carlisle  i met you then, I know you now   Favoriting jazz tribune 64: the complete una mae carlisle and john kirby          0:42:05 (Pop-up)
loving  only she knows   Favoriting visions        *   0:44:56 (Pop-up)
robbie basho  pasha   Favoriting bashovia          0:47:57 (Pop-up)
the byrds  get to you   Favoriting the notorious byrd brothers          0:56:59 (Pop-up)
 
june tyson/sun ra arkestra  astro black   Favoriting Saturnian Queen of the Sun Ra Arkestra      happy birthday sun ra, born may 22, 1914    1:05:07 (Pop-up)
Sun Ra Arkestra  tiny pyramids   Favoriting Angels and Demons at Play/The Nubians of Plutonia          1:06:31 (Pop-up)
Sun Ra  adventure-equation   Favoriting Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow          1:10:15 (Pop-up)
sun ra  planet earth   Favoriting Sun Ra Visits Planet Earth/Interstellar Low Ways          1:18:18 (Pop-up)
sun ra  we travel the spaceways-interplanetary music   Favoriting We Travel The Spaceways/Bad & Beautiful          1:23:04 (Pop-up)
sun ra  walking on the moon   Favoriting My Brother the Wind, Vol. II          1:25:47 (Pop-up)
sun ra  enlightenment   Favoriting jazz in silhouette          1:32:02 (Pop-up)
sun ra  that's how i feel   Favoriting lanquidity          1:36:57 (Pop-up)
june tyson/sun ra arkestra  strange worlds in my mind   Favoriting Saturnian Queen of the Sun Ra Arkestra          1:44:54 (Pop-up)
sun ra  space is the place   Favoriting ost space is the place          1:46:21 (Pop-up)
sun ra  languidity   Favoriting languidity          1:50:33 (Pop-up)
 
sound technologies  grounding   Favoriting   wollesonic  Single    *   2:05:11 (Pop-up)
pablo's eye  double language   Favoriting spring break          2:10:25 (Pop-up)
Inoyama Land  skyfish   Favoriting Commissions: 1977 - 2000          2:14:37 (Pop-up)
Hong Kong in the 60s  the ungrateful root   Favoriting collision/detection version 4          2:18:12 (Pop-up)
blue boy  marble arch   Favoriting unisex          2:23:00 (Pop-up)
don byas  wrap your troubles in dreams   Favoriting tenor giant          2:27:21 (Pop-up)
jason joshua  la via es fria   Favoriting penrose records vol 1 v/a           
Céu  amor pixelado   Favoriting tropix          2:37:14 (Pop-up)
 
mouse on mars  papa, antoine   Favoriting iaora tahiti          2:43:00 (Pop-up)
Suzanne Ciani  eight wave   Favoriting lixivation          2:49:35 (Pop-up)
michael nyman  a watery death   Favoriting The Draughtsman's Contract ost          2:52:50 (Pop-up)
paolo pandolfo, rinaldo allessandrini  bmv 1027-ill. andante   Favoriting bach viola de gamba sonatas          2:56:39 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  9:01am
Soundeq:

we love you Clay
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p20:

we're in trouble now!
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Trouble:

good morning thursday morning land.....
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David (in London):

I'm from the past. May I gain admittance to the Modern World?
Hello Trouble, and the Troublesome.
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Deborah:

Good Morning continues....
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p20:

D(iL): I always thought London was 5 or 6 hours in the future
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Handy Haversack:

Good Thursday, Trouble and all the Troubled. Sounding great already.

David, p20, Deborah -- glad to be in a World with you, even a Modern one.
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rasszzyy (Sweden):

Tttrrrrooouuubbbbllleeeeee! It must be Thursday!

Good afternoon everyone! (or I guess, good morning for most)
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steveo:

Good morning. Lovely opening. I got my ears on.
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p20:

I could listen to Meg Baird all day ... (eyes "B" section of record shelf)
  9:04am
kpx:

the thing about trouble is that it's always looming around the corner.
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MikeG:

I ♥ Meg
  9:06am
kpx:

bonjour mademoiselle trouble.
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p20:

oh there's a preview track from her upcoming (delayed) album. got to check that out (on her bandcamp)
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Threemoons:

Goood morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers. Didn't log on in time to say Hi on Clay's shift but I was there also...
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Phillippe Bastille:

Good morning, Troubled and troubled troublemakers! Hey Handy, hey DiL, hey P20!
  9:07am
seth from muddy creek:

Hearts all over this set
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David (in London):

p20 - I'm living in the past in the future. It's all very confusing.

Hey Handy, Phillippe, steveo!
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Lixiviated Life:

ok
lets go
  9:09am
ami ad:

Hello D.J. Hello all.Chirp chirp from the BK,they picked up the recycling today.Hoora to the workers.Chirp.
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Pale Son:

Good morning! Love the Sun Ra pic and the music so far. :)
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Trouble:

friday is your last chance to get %15 off at the wfmu store: t-shirts, water bottles, notepads, sweatshirts, artwork. Check it ouuuuuuut
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melinda:

Hi friends
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StringOFperils:

Future, past, past, future....I'm still stuck at wondering whose myth I am.
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David (in London):

Hi Melinda.
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AndrewC.:

No birdsong records needed today - actual birds outside are really going for it, and the bluetit parents are in and out of the nestbox continually (hopefully) feeding the young'ns.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15am
Handy Haversack:

I was hearing a very angry blue jay scream out front, but now I'm surrounded by extremely loud purring as two of the cats take their postprandial nap next to me. As soon as it warms up a touch, I'll head outside to work in the sparrow sounds.
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p20:

@Trouble: I wanted to let you know I took your suggestion and watched the Piketty film (Capital) - watched most of it twice, actually. It was very good, reminded me a bit of "The Big Short" in its (successful) attempt to make economics accessible to general audiences. The economists and professors they interviewed were great. I'd suggest the film to anyone. I admire Piketty and I think he's doing a lot of good in the world. But at the end of the day I'm a lot further to the left than he is - he thinks capitalism can be saved by changing policies (mostly taxation), whereas I'm pretty convinced that it needs to be demolished. But I see anyone who is advocating any sort of leftist reforms, no matter how mild, as an ally. So thanks for the movie suggestion & the conversation it triggered. (Did any other listeners check it out?)
  9:19am
Bill W:

Made it to p 50 of the book. Lots of graphs.
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Trouble:

i hear you on the demolish part @P20, but i can't ever see that happening in these united states, or many countries for that matter. Legislation to curb private greed is the best we can hope for, and even that seems far fetched right now with the all about me party in charge
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Pale Son:

@p20 No, but I did read the articles that you and Trouble had suggested and found them both very worthwhile. Have been recommending to others, thank you!
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meredith:

morning all! From rainy Carrboro, NC
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waters7:

Good morning, Trouble and fellow listeners.
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Trouble:

hellllo bill w!
  9:20am
mongo:

Hamza Al Din AWWWWWWESOME TROUBLE WHEEEW
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Handy Haversack:

Well said, p20. I somehow missed that there was a Piketty movie?
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p20:

@BillW: Yeah, I think it's great they made a movie out of it. I didn't have time/energy to read the book either. The movie is very approachable.
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thedunkel:

Good Morning Trouble! Good Morning All!
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Irene Trudel:

Another beautiful start to the morning with your musical selections. Thank you, Trouble!
  9:22am
ami ad:

Did people think the Wall will fall?Communism?This Capitalism Shall Not Stand.
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Irene Trudel:

That playlist picture of Sun Ra is also quite beautiful.
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p20:

@PaleSon: Glad you liked and recommended the article. The "What is the economy for?" section of that "Four Futures" article sums up my viewpoint perfectly, which saves me a lot of work trying to write it down :)
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Trouble:

good morning@irene! thanks!
  9:23am
kpx:

ah yes, all the serene peaceful tweeting dirty little birdies. so wonderful to observe, even the ones from 'The Tennessee bird walk'. walking South in their dirty underwear. well actually thats more funny see.
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βrian:

I like your playlist image, and I like that it's not an animated gif.
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melinda:

@p20 I haven't yet checked out Capital, thanks for the reminder.
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austin:

fresh espresso, nice sun above, and trouble's tunes! thank you as always for the selections~
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Crudbringer:

The Trouble With Crud. Morning everybody.

Why is it the People Who Believe In Rules that are the ones who don't like to follow the rules?
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Pale Son:

@p20 Yes, and the actual Four Futures diagram reminded me so much of one of the best bits I ever got from my high school economics class, way back in the day. A diagram with democracy–dictatorship on one axis, private–public ownership on the other, dividing the space into four economic-political systems: capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism. It's such a clear and simple way to think about some pretty huge and complex ideas.
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melinda:

This morning I dreamed that I had to return to work but that my boss had changed the purpose of our store and we had to serve fried chicken and felafel, with no personal protective gear. I find that even when my mood is fine during the day I still have stress dreams.
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Handy Haversack:

You rule, Crudbringer!

melinda, the other night I had my first dream about being outside and having forgotten a mask.
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p20:

@Trouble: How have I never heard Annette Peacock before? Just looked up her amazing biography. Hung out with Timothy Leary at Millbrook, learned macrobiotics from Michio Kushi, first singer to use a Moog with her voice. Your show continues to educate, thanks. Going to back off a bit on the commenting - I keep getting too loquacious and hitting the quota - but I'm here listening attentively, and dreaming about a better world for everyone.
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Lixiviated Life:

Birds?
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steveo:

Number 9…?
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Crudbringer:

....

"But this is the NEW normal!"
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βrian:

The gnu gnormal, maybe?
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melinda:

@Pale Son does anarcho-syndicalism fit into that diagram?
  9:33am
kpx:

the wall of greed and corruption must ultimately fall if there's ever going to be equality on all levels no matter who you are.
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Lixiviated Life:

When the aliens land will they all be driving a beige Chevy Malibu ?
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p20:

("normal" is one of those words that should always be in quotes, like "reality")
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Pale Son:

@melinda Not really, because some kind of government is assumed on the democracy–dictatorship axis.
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Lixiviated Life:

No,
The Aliens drive beige 1974 Chevy Nova's
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steveo:

The birds are a blessing at our place. Also, today there are juvenile squirrels playing in the hollow part of the catalpa.
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βrian:

Porque no va?
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Crudbringer:

@Pale Son right, it's like that diagram is just one cross-section of the possible anarcho-verse.
  9:35am
Slaboch:

Arthur Russell's birthday today too!
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p20:

@melinda: you could add a square hanging off the edge, to the left of 'socialism'
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Crudbringer:

all locations outside that plane are just different versions of "nothing to see here".
  9:36am
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hi trouble. can we buy your live cd?
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p20:

@Crudbringer: I think you could make the same critique of any map, no? It's still a useful thing.
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StringOFperils:

Placed a reserve/hold on Pikkety's Capital In the 21st Century. I have only seen snippets of (documentary?) video featuring Pikkety's ideas. I (with no intention to be argumentative here), am less positive about how it's all going, so fresh outside considerations can't hurt.
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Crudbringer:

Sure, all maps have a limited domain of application, but are useful within that domain.
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Aquebogue:

Can you imagine a wedding that Marshall Allen and the Arkestra played at. It was wild!
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Adrian in London:

Hi Trouble, and Troublees, comic in late because I was having the lunch my wife kindly made me. A great perk of working from home!
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Crudbringer:

More and more, I think of "civil society" as a bourgeois fantasia. The very-rich and very-poor understand & accept that nature is red in tooth & claw and the only thing to do is survive.
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βrian:

SOPeril: So you reserved the book or the documentary?
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Trouble:

@?: all the premiums that WFMU dj's make are available when you make a donation to WFMU. $75 donation gets you my last fundraising premium, plus a tshirt!
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Deborah:

@HandyHaversack 9:03

Reciprocal thoughts here! Thank you.
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StringOFperils:

@Brian...the book Brian. I think the depth offered within the book, will be more useful to me....extrapolating hope out of all of this (and the history of the human race) has become difficult for me. So...the book, or A book, rather.
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βrian:

@SOPerils: That should keep ya busy!
  9:42am
kpx:

does anyone remember the K car from the 70s. it was supposed to be a cheap no thrills affordable car. I can't remember the manufacturer?
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βrian:

Chrysler. I thought it was the 80s.
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Crudbringer:

Ahh, the Dodge Aries K. Further evidence of a random, hateful universe.
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Crudbringer:

Yeah, the "K" was a shared platform used by ChryPlymDodge, right?
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Rev. Turnip Druid:

Aries K. The quintessential corporate car.
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Aquebogue:

Love the Annette Peacock today! Thanks for that!!! Great ring mod.
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StringOFperils:

@Brian....I NEED to be kept busy. In a bit of a rut lately, with one thing and another.
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βrian:

K-car:

en.wikipedia.org...
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p20:

@Crudbringer: I think "nature red in tooth and claw" is a bit of a fantasy too. First of all, Nature is complex. Ants live in cooperative societies. There are all kinds of examples of cooperation and symbiosis. Secondly, we don't live in a state of nature. We live in a constructed social system. And we should have some say in the construction of said system. And I think we should try to uphold basic Enlightenment values, which have been around for hundreds of years.
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

@p-20, hear hear
  9:46am
Dave Conehead:

Awesome tunes for the moment
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p20:

And in lots of ways, the capitalist system we've devised is more brutal than anything to be found in the natural world. Look at how many people someone like Bezos (on track to become the first trillionaire) can dominate. In a nature-based society his power would be much more limited. (And he'd probably get eaten).
  9:47am
Jeffrey Davison:

Good morning, Trouble and all sojourners here...
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melinda:

@Pale Son makes sense. The context in which I heard it first described in a positive light is different from the Wiki definition I just looked up.
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Crudbringer:

@p20 agree, except that I think the "construction" of our social system increasingly resembles the physical construction of our bridges and schools. Men with spade beards and Deep Bleefs about their Hairtidge are polishing their guns.

I think the "brutality" of the system is just the natural result of the lack of any "rules" at all.
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Trouble:

good morning jeffrey! how goes it?
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

@p20 one could only dream
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Crudbringer:

Or rather "rules for thee, enforcement of the rules for me"
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melinda:

Nature is about cooperation as well as competition.
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Crudbringer:

Hi Jeffrey. Sorry, we're gonna figure it all out & fix it here in a second, then Trouble can start spinning some Ethel Merman platters.
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Jeezy:

Oy veyshmir. Wotta world we live in...
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βrian:

I traded my bleefs for a couple of spleefs.
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StringOFperils:

Unqualified agreement on that Jeezy.
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Handy Haversack:

@p20, I think one of the books I mentioned in our recommendation fest some weeks ago was Amatka, which I think does one of the better jobs of trying -- mimetically, at least -- to figure what lies on the other side of change we are poorly able to imagine. When the capitalist system that has defined brutal life on this planet for hundreds of years is brought down, what does life look like? It's hard hard hard to get one's imagination past that point of singularity.

But extractive capitalism might and tends toward ending only when there's nothing left to extract and no one left to (force to) extract it.
  9:53am
hey buddy:

Knocking it out of the park again! Thanks trouble!
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Crudbringer:

I dunno. That Beaver documentary notwithstanding, I think the "cooperation" observed in nature is ephemeral at best, or specious. I'm not sure what ants do is "cooperating", with a happy heart and a clear mind.
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Itzall Hear:

Hello Trouble and all the people. Lots to do today and it's great to have this fine show to accompany that! That's me in the corner--
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Glorious Estephonic:

Basho <3 <3 <3
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

btw, I just wanted to say that the guitar in that Loving song really reminded me alot of a Nature and Organisation song I absolutely adore, Tears for an Eastern Girl: open.spotify.com...
  9:56am
kpx:

true, but along comes man and channels nature through a greedy non-cooperation configuration and turns everything into a toxic waste.
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StringOFperils:

I'm glad that we all have THIS, for the time-being. May it continue to live on, and not just as memory.
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melinda:

@Handy sounds interesting
@Crudbringer cooperating might not be the best word, but not everything is zero-sum. Trees provide each other with nutrients via huge underground fungal systems. Reciprocal altruism was an important discovery in evolutionary theory.
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Crudbringer:

@kpx just like a beaver builds a dam.

I had a big falling-out with my holy-roller manager this week. He approvingly quoted Elon Musk, and said "He's not afraid to say what he thinks, even if it's unpopular!"

I said, "Maybe it's unpopular because it's stupid."

Him: "Nope."

Now he's acting all butt-hurt. I can't see why. I was just saying what I think, without caring whether it was a popular thing to say. I had been hoping it would increase his respect for me.
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Jeezy:

Yassss, @Jeezuse... that is a great track....!
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melinda:

@Crudbringer haha
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Lixiviated Life:

Robbie's guitar string
The sound of spring birds singing
No Basho Haiku
  10:00am
Jeffrey Davison:

Trouble, it's going okay. This morning I fixed the internet, launched a satellite to help upload my show, bought a BMW 507 at auction, and played some polo with Prince Charles.
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Crudbringer:

(oh yeah thanks @JD for that internet thing btw)
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Passaic River Blues:

@Melinda: I agree with you here. Perhaps "cooperation" implies too much intention. "Balance" and "equilibration" seem to be inherent components of natural systems, something missing from most human endeavors.

@Crudbringer: hahahaha
  10:03am
Jeffrey Davison:

Crudbringer...you're welcome. I'm a problem solver.
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melinda:

@Jeffrey save us from Legionnaire's Disease!
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Crudbringer:

oh god is LD still a thing?
  10:06am
Jeffrey Davison:

That's my afternoon project. (it's still a thing, for real).
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p20:

YES. SUN RA. YES.
  10:07am
Fredericks:

I love June Tyson-eRa Ra.
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Malcolm:

Looking forward to this set. lanquidity is the only sun ra album i've delved into in any depth. It's beautiful, also has june tyson vocals
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Aquebogue:

I think Tara gives June a run for her money. Your thoughts?
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p20:

Interesting fact: In the 1930's and 40’s Sun Ra was one of the first Afrikan Americans to own his own recording equipment. He set up his own record label (El Saturn Records) in Chicago in 1957. Absolute hero and insipration. sunraarchive.webstarts.com...
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Itzall Hear:

Well. Just about an hour in to the show and my usual record spend is about to occur. I need that June Tyson record, for sure! Trouble, your show is expensive.
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Fredericks:

I applied for a job with Outer Spaceways Incorporated.
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Trouble:

Jeffrey, you do manage to keep yourself bizzeeeee while helping humankind, that's awesome!
  10:13am
Kpx:

Popular unpopular agreeing disagreeing who cares maybe it's the effort that one makes that counts
  10:14am
WM:

Thanks for reminding us all of Sun Ra's birthday. I was lucky to hear the Arkestra live several times with June Tyson, John Gilmore and Marshall Allen. Everyone should read the very good biography Space is the Place by John Szwed.
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Itzall Hear:

Dear Fredericks, don't forget your 'ole chatboard pals if you get your foot in the door with O.S.I.- good luck!!! ;)
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Trouble:

sorry@itzall, i could try to play unavailable music, would that help?

Yes I agree@ WM
  10:15am
Crei6hton:

Morning!
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Crudbringer:

(@p20 nice, that Sun Ra link is the hoopiest)
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Itzall Hear:

Dear Trouble, NO!!! But thanks for the gentle offer.
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Jesse Dorris:

Fabulous show so far, @Trouble. Happy Birthday Sun Ra!
  10:20am
WM:

The first time I heard Sun Ra live was in 1973 at Town Hall in NYC. Years later the concert was released on CD as Concert for the Comet Kohoutek.
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Crudbringer:

(reading Sun Ra entry on Wikipedia... > In an appeal to the national draft board, [Sun Ra] wrote that the lack of black men on the draft appeal board "smacks of Hitlerism." Too rad!)
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Passaic River Blues:

@WM: that's awesome!
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Handy Haversack:

Well, let's take Sun Ra outside, shall we?
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Fredericks:

I won't, Itzalll. I haven't heard anything yet. A letter takes a while to get to Saturn.
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Crudbringer:

You folded that letter but you forgot to fold space. Has Sun Ra taught you _nothing?_
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Trouble:

@passaic river blues, I finished optic nerve by maria gainza, will pop it in the mail today or tomorrow. enjoy!
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Fredericks:

Oh, you're right, Cruddy.
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Crudbringer:

yeah, give it to one of those spice guys in the fishtank
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Itzall Hear:

Thanks, buddy, just be patient, I'm sure they will be in touch!
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Handy Haversack:

That's better.
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ranjit:

I think i saw the arkestra once at the Bang on a Can festival but that might just be my mind (or somebody else's) playing tricks on me
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble and Arkitects. I like how Liz Berg's bed music was a Sun Ra selection.
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Pale Son:

I was supposed to be seeing the Arkestra here in Halifax next month, but it's not happening now, obv. Too bad!
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Passaic River Blues:

@Trouble: thank you! Also, we got one of the elegant pandemic masks in the mail yesterday--my wife was thrilled with how beautiful and well made it was.
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Webhamster Henry:

Don't forget to mention the Sun Ra Remix CD done by WFMU staffers "Interplanetary Remixes: WFMU Reinterprets The Music Of Sun Ra"
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ranjit:

oh wow, Henry, i gotta get that there remix
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Fredericks:

En-Light-Ment!
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Itzall Hear:

Um, dear Webby Hank, where would a person go to find that CD?!?
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Trouble:

@passaic river blues: fabulous! i believe i wrote sizes on them, and if they don't fit let me know and i can make another size and you can give away the off sized one...wear in good health!
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Webhamster Henry:

@ranjit
WFMU Used to have it in the store. Hmm! Trouble played some cuts from it last year's Sun Ra show (including mine #talksabouthimselfexcessively)
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WillCrete:

Thanks for is Sun Ra Birthday set Trouble! Magnificent listening this morning.
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Handy Haversack:

Michele said she'll be adding material to the store this weekend. Maybe it will come back!
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WO Town Wick:

Yo La Tengo got me interested in Sun Ra. Tried to resist but was overcome.
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Mick:

What an amazing Sun Ra set - thanks Trouble!
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Crudbringer:

man I may have to build some pyramids this weekend.
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steveo:

tuba jazz rules
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Trouble:

gracias@ mick, willcrete, glad to bring the sun ra sounds into the daylight.
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steveo:

hm no tuba listed; maybe i'm hearing bass clarinet? in which case, bass clarinet jazz rules
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Crudbringer:

pyramids with rings. In the fourth dimension.
  10:43am
Kpx:

@crud, seems apropos for someone who is fond of cats.
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Malcolm:

yeaaah lanquidity!
  10:43am
David in London:

Saw Sun Ra in Liverpool in 1990, and it was the best gig of my life. A truly magical evening. Ian McCulloch of Echo & the Bunnymen was sitting in front of me, but luckily the seating was so steep that his massive hairdo didn’t obscure the proceedings.
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Morning, Trouble & all!
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Blacktooth:

Tripped out on this Sun-Ra set. Some tunes I'm familiar with. Some not. Absolutely LOVING this long groovy-funky "that's how I feel." Never heard this side of RA.
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Crudbringer:

I saw E&BM in St. Louis in 1991. It was the first concert I ever went to and I hated it but I bought a long lost t-shirt anyhow.
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Threemoons:

Me three RE loving this Sun Ra. Need it today.
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, Greg!
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Mike & Dusty:

I dig it, I dig it all
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Trouble:

@blacktooth: listening to that cut i thought of kamasi washington...
  10:50am
I mark:

I’m very confused. Why is WFMU in my cell phone? Space was the place.
  10:52am
Harlem Muse:

Space is the Place! I heart Saturnian Queen Space June. Thanks for taking us to another world Trouble!
  10:53am
I mark:

I was born on the southside of Chicago but I had never heard of sun re until I moved.
I met a guy worked at tower records in Philadelphia he said he played guitar with the band
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Blacktooth:

@Trouble: Indeed! Kamasi is a modern artist continuing the traditions of space-exploration through music. I'm a sucker for those places where the jazz & funk do the doe-si-doe.
  10:54am
I mark:

I don’t know if this is a request or a suggestion but there is a new Nicole Mitchell space thing based on the work of Octavia Butler earth seed
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Irene Trudel:

I'm loving this Sun Ra journey through space and time today.
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Trouble:

glad you are along for the ride @ irene
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Malcolm:

great set thanks trouble
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Adrian in London:

Really enjoying this set.
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Passaic River Blues:

What a set--perfect closing with "Languidity."
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karlward:

That was a dope hour
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duke:

I keep getting phone calls. I have to go back to archives to get that set looks wonderful.
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alexapharm:

omg Providence luv!!!!!
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juan:

Thank you, trouble, for this wondrous set of Sun Ra. He has been much on my mind lately
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alexapharm:

My first shows were at Lupo's too. <3
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Yes:

lovely sounds, trouble. thank you
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Trouble:

merci! Glad you all enjoyed the magic of sun ra!
  11:10am
I mark:

There’s a book from 2009 by John Corbett pathway to unknown worlds. John also arranged for Alton Abraham’s papers to be archived at u Chicago. Didn’t know the Sun Ra Providence connection.
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Marcel M:

@Trouble: did you have pa amb tomàquet with your tortilla?
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Webhamster Henry:

Thursday Morning is the home of Sun Ra, Alice Coltrane and Nina Simone. These are musicians that are most like French bird calls.
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Fredericks:

Irwin has a connection to Sun Ra, too.
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Trouble:

@i mark: saw that fantastic show at the ICA in philly, i have the book, it was the catalog.
No marcel, sadly we didn't. i wouldn't eat a tomato like that until i saw it grow out of the ground.
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Trouble:

@frederiks, irwin's connection to sun ra is only in working on reissuing a few releases, within the past years.
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Marcel M:

@Trouble: You just gotta use the small juicy ones. You only rub them on the bread. Thats what the Catalonians do. Goes amazingly well with tortilla. Add some manchego and jamon iberico and ohhhh baby!
  11:24am
Dean:

I thought Irwin was the executor of the Sun Ra estate.
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Marcel M:

@Dean: I think he does own the licensing on behalf of the estate or something like that.
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Handy Haversack:

@Marcel: Oh hotsie motsie, yeah. Pan amb tomatje? Probably butchering the spelling. But I could eat it all day. As a vegetarian, when we visit our friend in Barcelona, sometimes I do! (And tortilla, which I love.)

@p20, if you're still here, do you subscribe to Salvage? If so, you probably have seen the editorial collective's latest "Dispatch from a Changing World." If not, you might appreciate it. The article is paywalled for a time for nonsubscribers, though.
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Mike & Dusty:

Wow, what a song, Blue Boy...at first my ears thought it was a band that made a career of flitting between él Records and Sarah. (...maybe they did?)
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Marcel M:

@Handy: My wife is from Barcelona so we basically live on it. And also get it constantly when there!
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Marcel M:

@Handy: "pan y tomate," is the Spanish, but its really a Catalan thing. Their spelling is, "pa amb tomàquet"
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Marcel M:

I just had it for breakfast!
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Handy Haversack:

@Marcel. So. Jealous.

Maybe I'll rough out some Haversackian equivalent later on, though.
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steveo:

is it too early to say what a magically wonderful show this has been? (If so, please delete this comment;)
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karlward:

You've been listening to This is the Dope World with Trouble.
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Marcel M:

@Handy: Yeah I mean I just did it on sliced whole grain bread, hah. But it still tastes great on virtually any bread.
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karlward:

People still say "dope" right?
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Mr. Pumpy:

Handy, I'm cooking Brussels sprouts tonight. I'm trying to help quelch any feelings of envy...
  11:35am
JakeGould:

@karlward: Dope as a verb is kinda like a non-ironic “groovy.”
  11:35am
Dean:

A local restaurant serves matrimonio, a Spanish toasted bread topped with anchovies. Out of this world.
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Mike & Dusty:

I missed most of last week’s show, and the first half of today’s (me and Dusty found a quiet field by the East River to throw a ball around and we just...kept doing that), so I settled in from the latter parts of the Sun Ra set, and...wow it’s such a good feeling to listen to a handful of songs in a sequence and just feel like you are in the company of Someone Good.
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Trouble:

merci for the kind words! happy to make some calm inside the belly of the beast
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Mike & Dusty:

dope as a verb? I use it adjectivally often enough. Don’t dope me, bro.
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Marcel M:

@Dean: oh yeah... damn good!!! The last time we were in Spain we visited the Basque Country and went to a small costal town famous for their anchovies... my mouth is watering just thinking about it... Its hard to find proper Spanish food in the US.
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Blues Mandinga:

Ea!
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Itzall Hear:

JakeGould, wouldn't that more accurately be used as an adjective? "Trouble's DOPE show", for instance.
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Handy Haversack:

Mr. P, I adore Brussels sprouts!

@Marcel: Do you ever have pickled asparagus with mayonnaise? Unreal. A salad!
  11:38am
JakeGould:

I meant adjective; you know what I mean all you groovy dopes.
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karlward:

Dope as a verb is all Ivan Drago.
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Marcel M:

@Handy: I have not! It sounds.... strange. But I would def. try it.
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Mr. Pumpy:

Damn...my plan backfired.
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karlward:

Dope as a verb is all Lance Armstrong.
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Itzall Hear:

What. We havehere... is FAY-Yure. To c'myune-kate!
  11:40am
JakeGould:

Nobody pickles asparagus in mayo.
  11:42am
JakeGould:

ZZ Top is a decent band.
  11:43am
JakeGould:

ZZ Top is groovy dope.
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Mr. Pumpy:

@Handy, I'm roasting them in Pine-Sol and drizzling with an ipecac reduction. They will be finished with a sprinkle of sawdust from old Wolmanized wood. Don't be jealous.
  11:44am
Dean:

@Marcel M: I've only had the dish at the local restaurant. Would love to enjoy it in Basque country.
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Handy Haversack:

As if I wasn't making myself hungry enough, now Trouble has me thinking of the Tres Amigos gatefold and the FEAST within!

Mayo was invented in Menorca, a Catalan island in the Balearics. The French occupied it for a while and claimed it, but it's Mahon sauce. That island is paradise! Mayo, cheese, horses, tomato-garlic soup, and the densest concentration of Bronze Age ruins in the Mediterranean. Oh, and 300 beaches.

Mr. P, I'm making Bagel Bites in a deconstructed Hot Pocket reduction with a Doritos glaze. I just want to eat *my* food, you know?
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Doug in JC:

This is one of those albums that I am just always in the mood for no matter what I'm doing. Thank you!
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Doug in JC:

And ketchup is from Vietnam!
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Mr. Pumpy:

Handy...preaching to the choir, baby!
  11:50am
Dean:

For dessert, bananas Picasso.
  11:51am
JakeGould:

Goya… Oh Boy-a!
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melinda:

Dreamy sounds
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joe mulligan:

I had a crush on Suzanne Ciani when she appeared on "3-2-1-Contact" tv show during the 80s
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Handy Haversack:

Another wonderful show, Trouble. Thanks so much -- and Skeleton Matt, too! Very glad to have been in this world for three hours!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks for the ascendant dopage today, Trouble.
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melinda:

@joe I loved 3-2-1 Contact.
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Glorious Estephonic:

so happy i saw Suzanne Ciani perform in a church
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Pale Son:

@joe Yes! She doped my mind! :)
  11:55am
JakeGould:

@KenFromHydePark: You still interested in the Coney Island Beach sand?
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listener james from westwood:

She did the music for that show?! Wow! All the more reason why I dug it then. Plus I see how it seeded me for later Ciani appreciation.
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mariano:

I feel like I'm in a Greenaway flick ;)
  11:57am
JakeGould:

@ListenerJames: She appeared on the show demonstrating synths; she did nothing with the shows music directly.
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listener 126464:

Thank you Trouble!
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Pale Son:

Thanks, Trouble et al.!
  11:59am
JakeGould:

Here she is demonstrating synths on Letterman back in the 1980s. www.youtube.com...
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karlward:

It has truly been a dope world
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Adrian in London:

Thanks!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

@Jake - No thanks, I'm good. Too dope for me.
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mariano:

Thanks Trouble!
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