WFMU: Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza: Playlist from October 12, 2020

Listener comments!
	♥ 12/18 2:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Testing?
	12/18 3:00pm mb: 1-2, 1-2?
	♥ 12/18 3:00pm Phillippe Bastille: The link worked! That's a good start, right?
	♥ 12/18 3:00pm Rich in Washington: Hello. Did I pass the test?
	12/18 3:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi Ken. Comments will look the sameish. The bigger changes will be on the songs side. But comments will be different on a phone mobile browser!
	12/18 3:01pm Mary Wing: Dynamic!
	♥ 12/18 3:01pm Rich in Washington: I feel weird. Kind of dizzy. Is that normal?
	♥ 12/18 3:01pm chris: very nice.
	12/18 3:02pm Mr Fab: Hi Kenzo, how is this "dynamic" Any special bells and whistles in store? Free balloons for the kids?
	12/18 3:03pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Everything about the songs listing is super live. No more flashing page reloads once a minute.
	12/18 3:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I can even throw you all out to the bottom and then immediately welcome you back in...here comes that...
	♥ 12/18 3:04pm Phillippe Bastille: @Kenzo the no flashing will make me VERY happy.
	12/18 3:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The page should look a lot better on a phone browser. (No effect on the apps...) wfmu.org...
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington: Ooo! Fancy!
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington: There's no delay once you hit 'update'?
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Phillippe Bastille: The one thing that's a little weird for me is that when the comments autoscroll, the bottom line is half cutoff horizontally (PC, Firefox)
	12/18 3:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Philllllllppe Yeah, I'm seeing that too right now. And the auto-scroll/arrow thing isn't always kicking in.
	12/18 3:07pm mb: I kind of like the flashing page. It has snapped me out of many cannabis induced hazes.
	♥ 12/18 3:08pm Phillippe Bastille: The autoscroll rarely worked for me
	12/18 3:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Well instead of flashing you're going to get sea sick from all the fading in and out of song changes.
	♥ 12/18 3:08pm Rich in Washington: It seems to have eliminated the persistent 'down' arrow at the bottom of the comments that I encounter w/Mac - Chrome. It actually prevents one from highlighting text - like if you wanna copy someone's name to reply. I don't see thathere, which is nice.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Dramamine, cannabis, all kind of the same
	12/18 3:09pm mb: Autoscroll rarely worked and sometimes the arrow stayed lit indicating there was a new post BUT there was not a new post.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington: I could see me getting used to the fading in playlist entries.
	12/18 3:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, the comments arrow/scroll thing didn't work right on some browsers and I think that's still the case. Maybe the persistent arrow will happen less, but I want to get that whole thing working better.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington: Yeah, mb. That's exactly what I meant. It was sort of a pain.
	♥ 12/18 3:11pm Phillippe Bastille: I think the down arrow was some kind of sophisticated AI/machine learner that knew someone was thinking about posting
	♥ 12/18 3:13pm Rich in Washington: Now I'm listening to two shows AND the House of Representatives hearing at the same time.
	12/18 3:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): If anyone wants to try it on a mobile browser I'd love to hear about it...
	12/18 3:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): One comments change is that if you keep commenting after the show ends and things are at the bottom, the comments will keep updating for a while; so, that last bit of convo won't be lost.
	♥ 12/18 3:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: ˙ʇsǝʇ ɹǝɥʇouɐ sᴉ ǝɹǝH
	♥ 12/18 3:17pm Rich in Washington: I'm on my Android phone now.
	♥ 12/18 3:19pm Rich in Washington: Hmmm. Honestly I don't know what the difference is, as I rarely visit playlists on my phone, but it seems a bit easier than I remember it. Definitely better than the app and unofficial app.
	12/18 3:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The text is more of a normal size rather than a crazy desktop page zoom, plus the comments and songs are kept separate (if your screen is narrow enough).
	♥ 12/18 3:21pm Rich in Washington: Yeah. I'm definitely going to read and comment this way on my phone.
	♥ 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington: Yeah. Much better than I remember it. The app is really awful for commenting.
	♥ 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington: Sorry if you had anything to do with the app.
	♥ 12/18 3:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: On Windows Firefox browser, as comments come in, I have to move the scroll bar down to see them. The floating arrow thingie isn't appearing like in the previous version (when you click it, it would zoom you down to the bottom of the comments).
	12/18 3:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Not a thing (well, it interacts with my server backend of course) and yeah it's awful. There's a new one from a new dev right around the corner, though!
	12/18 3:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP If you reload the page once, does that keep being the case?
	♥ 12/18 3:26pm chris: in duck duck go ios, i can't submit comments because the submit button is cut off
	♥ 12/18 3:26pm chris: same for safari
	♥ 12/18 3:27pm Rich in Washington: The preview/submit button works for me on Android.
	12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris Thanks for that feedback. Any chance you can send me a screenshot? To kenzo at wfmu.org
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Reloaded and now the new comments appear at the bottom automatically.
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm chresti: testing testing..
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm chris: also can't resize page in either browser (ios), so there's a lot of scrolling
	12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Yeah there seems to be a sometimes-bug on first page load but I haven't tracked it down.
	12/18 3:29pm mb: Test Sent by iPhone from the webpage not the app
	12/18 3:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris What kind of resizing do you mean? If I remove the image (doing that in a sec), does it all fit?
	12/18 3:30pm BH: on Chrome, the auto-scroll to the most recent comments might take some getting used to (as opposed to opening the page and the bar being at the bottom already)
	12/18 3:30pm mb: ^Safari browser on iPhone
	♥ 12/18 3:32pm chris: no comments at all in safari on old crappy ipad running ios 10.3.4
	12/18 3:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @BH Do you mean, it's not auto scrolling? Or on first load it's not at the bottom?
	♥ 12/18 3:33pm chris: oh let me check, Kenzo
	12/18 3:33pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris Oh I'd love to know what you're seeing there on your ipad...
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm chris: yeah, much better when narrower artist/tracklist. i mean resizing window with finger gestures, just bounces back to whatever the page width is
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello from Microsoft Edge browser. Nothing unusual to report.
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm Phillippe Bastille: When I scroll up to read the comments I missed when I was on a call, the floating arrow appears, so that's good, right?
	12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Does anyone still see "Changing stuff at the top..." at the top of the page?
	12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Phill Yes, that's good!
	♥ 12/18 3:35pm Phillippe Bastille: Nope
	♥ 12/18 3:35pm chris: Kenzo, on ipad, empty comments column - no comments, no post comment box
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm ParUbi: IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm chris: actually on iphone, looks like the width is defined by size of artist/tracklist table
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm Phillippe Bastille: Test song pop-ups are working
	♥ 12/18 3:37pm chris: yes on iphone and ipad to the changing stuff at top... line. not on chrome, tho
	12/18 3:37pm BH: Kenzo, I mean, it appears to be working. Open site, the comments bar starts at the top and scrolls to the most recent comments. As opposed to opening and already being at the most recent.
	♥ 12/18 3:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: I take that back about M.E. browser. It's not repainting the comments. The comment at 3:33 is at the bottom and it's overlaying new comments as they arrive. Will try sending a picture.
	12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Who sees "Do you only see this" and also sees "Changing stuff at the top..." below it?
	12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Eeek, it's writing new comments on top of old comments?
	♥ 12/18 3:39pm chris: after page reload, the changing stuff at top line went away everywhere
	♥ 12/18 3:39pm Ken From Hyde Park: Raises hand ... I see that.
	♥ 12/18 3:40pm ParUbi: I see Max from Pi
	♥ 12/18 3:40pm Phillippe Bastille: I only see the this but not the also. Viewing on Firefox and Opera (talent!)
	12/18 3:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, it'll def go away after page reload, but it shouldn't have been there...
	12/18 3:40pm Martinibomb: Tes test.. is this thing on?
	♥ 12/18 3:41pm chris: love, love, love the way the table rebuilds itself!
	12/18 3:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah I've gotta make this a bit resizeable in mobile view.
	♥ 12/18 3:44pm Phillippe Bastille: Not that any sane person would be viewing the playlist on two different browsers at the same time, but the dynamic changes happen at different times on the two browsers, sometimes first on Firefox, sometimes first on Opera
	12/18 3:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Now a whole redraw of the comments section will happen...
	12/18 3:45pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB Heh, that's OK.
	♥ 12/18 3:45pm Phillippe Bastille: Redraw worked on Firefox, couldn't tell on Opera
	♥ 12/18 3:45pm ParUbi: Everything is active.
	♥ 12/18 3:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Funny watching the two Shatners at the same time. On one side his head is whipping left, the other whipping right. Both are satisfying to watch each and of themselves, but together its pure heaven
	♥ 12/18 3:48pm -Ken: Song list is updating very gracefully on W7, Chrome 79.0
	12/18 3:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Test here
	♥ 12/18 3:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, sent over a picture from Windows 10 and the Edge browser. I don't usually use that, but fired it up to see how it worked.
	♥ 12/18 3:51pm Phillippe Bastille: Not sure if this is relevant or just interesting, but on Firefox kenzo's name is in white, Ken from HP and mine are in red, everyone else's is green. On Opera, everybody's green.
	12/18 3:55pm still b/p: Commenter names turn red in Chrome after you have clicked on them to look at listener profile. Didja look? Didjaaaaa..?
	12/18 3:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Visited profile link color is different from non-visited.
	♥ 12/18 3:56pm Rich in Washington: Dammit. I missed the twin shatner heads!
	♥ 12/18 3:57pm Rich in Washington: I never noticed the name color changing thing before. This is not new, is it?
	12/18 3:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Not new
	♥ 12/18 3:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: In the previous version, I could make the comments column wider or narrower. It seems to be at a fixed width now. Similar for the "Post comment!" box. Can't make it taller or shorter. It's a fixed height.
	♥ 12/18 4:00pm Rich in Washington: Funny. I'd long noted that some people's names were differently colored but never knew why. Pathologically, just thought to myself that's it's because everyone is better than me. I possessed the ability to change my name color all along.
	♥ 12/18 4:02pm Rich in Washington: Is it significantly different under the hood for programmers, Kenzo?
	12/18 4:03pm still b/p: Everyone must now click on alternate names in the whole comment stack -- A, not B, then C, not D. Making red/green. Because Christmas.
	♥ 12/18 4:03pm Phillippe Bastille: Hmm, don't think I ever looked at Ken's profile. Pretty sure I looked at Rich's and it is green (Rich, are you the guy who started a show on Sheena, or was that someone else's profile I looked at?). Looked at still b/p on Opera and it is red but is still green on Firefox. I need to close one of these before I go crazy.
	♥ 12/18 4:04pm Rich in Washington: I did start a show on Sheena's! I'm still starting it every week!
	12/18 4:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Rich, what are you asking?
	♥ 12/18 4:05pm Rich in Washington: I see now that people's names/profile links just follow visited link behaviors.
	♥ 12/18 4:06pm Phillippe Bastille: Then I DID look at your profile. But your name is still green (sigh). Ken from HP, you don't have a show, do you?
	♥ 12/18 4:06pm Rich in Washington: Oh, just curious what the programmer side of the playlist will look like, if it's significantly different, etc. I can take my answers off the air.
	12/18 4:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I mean about programmers
	12/18 4:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): You mean for DJ's, ah. No changes there.
	12/18 4:08pm Mr Fab: Doesn't seem much different on desktop PC/Google, but agreed on the Android phone - MUCH improved, thank you, good sir!
	12/18 4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hmm I can make mobile zoom-inable but not zoom-outable.
	12/18 4:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): On mobile, I'm finding this new way where you might have to scroll left and right on the songs list if it's very detailed to be far better than the old way.
	12/18 4:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Thanks for screenshot about the W10 Edge Browser issue. Serious...happening consistently, comments are always getting overlaid?
	12/18 4:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP If you reload your page, wait for one comment to come, and then show me that screenshot, I could better understand what on earth is happening there.
	♥ 12/18 4:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: Out for a quick walk. Will make another screenshot when I get back. Emoji test: ♥️ ☠️
	♥ 12/18 4:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: Santa and football emojis and text that followed did not appear.
	12/18 4:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): That's probably not a new problem. Some newer unicode doesn't work here yet.
	♥ 12/18 4:28pm Ike: Greetings, humans!
	12/18 4:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi Ike! Watch the songs list for a sec
	♥ 12/18 4:37pm Ike: Oops, sorry, I may have missed something in the songs list because I was working.
	12/18 4:39pm still b/p: Quite unrelated to important visual and technical assessments, but a thin degree of fun: When I grab any edge of the browser window to adjust size, Shatner slows down and gets haltingly slappy while the adjustment is active, like his paw's taking a dramatic pause.
	♥ 12/18 4:42pm Ike: In Chrome it seems even harder than usual to adjust the frame size. It's always a pain in Chrome (I prefer Firefox, but there are work issues).
	12/18 4:43pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Which frame size...be specific?
	♥ 12/18 4:44pm Ike: When trying to grab the vertical line between the comments and the main playlist window and move it left or right.
	12/18 4:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Is it even possible anymore?
	♥ 12/18 4:49pm Ike: Not as far as I can tell, but I haven't been able to devote much time to it.
	12/18 4:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, can't do it anymore, although I'd like to restore that ability. Thanks for mentioning!
	♥ 12/18 4:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: I minimized the Edge browser window before taking my break and it seems to be behaving normally now. Going to try closing the window and opening a new one.
	♥ 12/18 4:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: And that comment broke it again. I have a fresh screengrab to send.
	12/18 4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Is this an otherwise normal computer and normal-working browser?
	♥ 12/18 4:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yes, up-to-date Windows 10 and as far as I know Edge is up to date. I normally use Firefox.
	12/18 4:57pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I look forward to seeing if others have Edge issues today too.
	12/18 4:58pm still b/p: Don't know if this matters or you already covered it: When adjusting browser window size horizontally to be smaller, going from either left or right, everything at the top and the comments area adapts with line-breaks, etc. to stay "whole" and visible, but the actual playlist grid stays same size/layout and gets covered up by the comments stack as it slides across. Eventually, at the max horiz adjustment it'll let me do, the left section of the playlist is only visible to half the "Format" column. On Irwin's now-active playlist, his 3 columns do reduce themselves horizontally to stay visible. On David W now-active playlist, the horizontal adjustment will have comment area moving over to cover just his far-right DJ comment column. Make sense?
	12/18 4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @still, which browser and OS?
	12/18 5:02pm still b/p: Chrome Version 79.0.3945.79 on an old Mac, OS X El Capitan 10.11.6
	♥ 12/18 5:03pm fred: Hello Kenzo and all
	♥ 12/18 5:06pm chresti: Looking with a chrome browser on a windows 10 laptop, I don't see much difference except the fade-in when a new track or image appears
	♥ 12/18 5:06pm ParUbi: Re-joining, hello everyone.
	12/18 5:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The fact that each new song is fading in twice instead of once is not a sign of a problem...it only has to do with a very unusual thing I have to do with today's playlist.
	♥ 12/18 5:11pm chresti: I like the fade-in effect
	12/18 5:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Test in a mobile or tablet browser if you can! wfmu.org...
	♥ 12/18 5:14pm fred: Looks good to me, now that I know the second fade-in is intentional. Should I be looking at anything special?
	♥ 12/18 5:15pm Ken From Hyde Park: Observation on Android / Chrome: with the phone vertical, you must choose either the song playlist grid or the comments. Turn the phone sideways and in landscape mode, you see both.
	12/18 5:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: That's by design. Do you see the button to switch back and forth?
	♥ 12/18 5:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yes, it works well.
	12/18 5:19pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Someone try favoriting new songs if you haven't yet.
	♥ 12/18 5:21pm Ike: Favoriting seems OK on an iPhone Ghostery browser.
	♥ 12/18 5:21pm fred: The timestamp in the rightmost column only appears on the second fade-in, but I guess that's intentional Also, the font in the comment box looks bigger than usual
	12/18 5:21pm Mr Fab: I favorited a song. Got the yellow star.
	12/18 5:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I'll have to increase the frequency of favorites data updates, so you aren't disturbed by the disappearance of your star for 30 seconds before it comes back.
	12/18 5:22pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): When a song gets updated, star might go away and then come back on its own, which isn't a new issue, always confuses some people, but will happen more now with the frequent song updates...will adjust soon.
	♥ 12/18 5:24pm Rich in Washington: The stars are coming out. There's a voice saying 'the stars are coming out'.
	♥ 12/18 5:25pm Ken From Hyde Park: At some point, will there be "thumbs down" boxes for Felder tracks?
	♥ 12/18 5:27pm fred: Very minor detail: when a new comment comes up, the last line is not completely visible, I have to scroll down a little (this doesn't happen on Irwin's playlist (Firefox 71.0, Windows 10 1903/18362.535)
	12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @fred Yeah for me too and others... Is auto-scroll/arrow thing working for you? It's supposed to auto-scroll to next comment if you're already at the bottom, or fade the arrow into view if you're not at the bottom, and then arrow disappear after you scroll to bottom or after you click it, which also scrolls to bottom.
	12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Oh yeah I forgot I can play with colors
	12/18 5:30pm still b/p: A pumpkin spice seizure!
	12/18 5:31pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Reload the page once, and then I can play with background colors subsequently.
	12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Anyone have a good idea for a font? And I wonder if different font make comment space at bottom go away.
	12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Nope it doesn't.
	12/18 5:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Can't believe my phone doesn't support comic sans
	♥ 12/18 5:36pm fred: The auto-scroll arrow did appear and worked as described
	12/18 5:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Anyone else using Edge? Seems problematic from one report... Anyone else have an iPad or other tablet to test on?
	♥ 12/18 5:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: What was that one? Comic Sans? It went to the separator line for that one. Otherwise, it seems to be the bottom-most pixel of the text.
	12/18 5:39pm still b/p: I x n a y o n i s t h a y o n t f a y.
	♥ 12/18 5:39pm chresti: The font is different
	12/18 5:40pm Dave In St Albans UK: I am using the "unofficial" Woof Moo WFMU app on Android. Everything on all streams working perfectly. Like a dream!
	♥ 12/18 5:40pm chresti: now it's better
	12/18 5:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The app is unaffected. I'm looking for people to test from mobile browsers.
	♥ 12/18 5:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: I notice that on the phone, I can make the page reload by swiping down. Couldn't do that on the old version. Had to navigate to the refresh icon.
	12/18 5:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I really want to automate the rapid changing of colors. It'll be such a hit
	♥ 12/18 5:44pm Rich in Washington: oh, that's crazy. I keep thinking there's something wrong with my monitors
	♥ 12/18 5:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: Dͨ͗̇ͥͩ̇ͥo͗͐ͣe̲̖̤̗ͨͣͭ̃s̖͇͒̃ t̠̼̣͓̘̱̃ͩ̑̓͛͒h͉̯̳̰͙̼͋͆ͤ̉̎̋i͒͒s̘̗̫̭̹̝̓͊͐ͫ̃̂ ̖͇̦̘͖̳̆̋̓̿̈̉me̥̬͓͈͉̗͑̈́ͥ͆̉̄s̝̯͍̤s̱̫̬͂͆̾ up͐̌̽͊ ͭ̄ͮ̋̀a̜̪̳̯̩̲͇ͫ͊ͯ̉̆̍ͩn̎̄ͧ̇̐y͒̈́̀ṭ̼̗̞̰̒̈̊ͤ͋h̺̮͓̯̜ͅi̥̫̞̭̲̝̓ͦ͛ͬ͗̀n̘̼͂̒ġ͗̎͋̓̒̌?
	♥ 12/18 5:46pm Ike: Auto-color change would be hilarious.
	12/18 5:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: Actually, it DOES mess up some things! How interesting.
	12/18 5:49pm Dave in St Alban's UK: Using Edge on Android. Comments section displaying nicely with the background colour changing. Fun! I can't shrink the playlist to fit my screen though.
	♥ 12/18 5:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: www.zalgogenerator.com
	12/18 5:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Dave Yeah, I can't find a way to allow mobile shrinking...
	12/18 5:52pm tester: Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but the comments & posting parts of the page are empty on Safari (version 12 on iPad, version 13 on Mac/Catalina)
	12/18 5:52pm still b/p: iPhone 8 v 13.1.2 When I go sideways, I get playlist and it makes some right-side space for comment column but there's nothing there in that column, just bg color without any text, lines, boxes, borders. I can do the back and forth full-screen from list to comments if holding phone in vertical orientation.
	12/18 5:52pm Martinibomb: awesome looking!
	12/18 5:52pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi, tester. Can you be more specific? A screenshot would be really nice, too. Send to kenzo at wfmu.org
	12/18 5:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): It sounds like tablet responsive view isn't working right, or maybe it's iOS specific...
	12/18 5:54pm tester: OK (BTW it's ok on iOS for iPhone)
	12/18 5:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I wonder if an arrow-like effect is needed for the songs list as well, so you know there's something at the bottom to scroll to see. I keep forgetting to scroll.
	12/18 5:55pm Dave in St Alban's UK: Really like the crazy background and text colour changes. Some combinations are easier on the eyes. :-)
	♥ 12/18 5:55pm Rich in Washington: Oh man! My cones and rods! I am bleeding from the eyeholes.
	♥ 12/18 5:55pm ParUbi: This is a pretty unreadable combination :D
	♥ 12/18 5:56pm ParUbi: well, it was
	♥ 12/18 5:57pm Rich in Washington: uh oh! Someone left the playlist out in the sun or washed it in warm water or both.
	♥ 12/18 5:57pm northguineahills: The comments overlaying on each other reflect the lyrical content of the show.
	12/18 5:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I want to do a BPM-synched color changing effect.
	♥ 12/18 5:59pm fred: A playlist arrow might be useful for your show, but maybe not many others
	12/18 6:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah I was thinking that. But maybe....
	♥ 12/18 6:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Image observation: with the old version, if you click on an image to enlarge it, you could use the up- or down-arrow key to go to the next one and enlarge it. With this version, they keys scroll the page up/down and the enlarged image moves with along with the page.
	♥ 12/18 6:00pm ParUbi: Karate means "empty hand" right? So where isn't karate? When you're holding something. Bam!
	12/18 6:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Lemme add more images and see
	12/18 6:01pm still b/p: T-Mobile will sue you if you use magenta. They've sued others.
	♥ 12/18 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: I should amend that. The up/down arrow makes the image go back to its embedded state.
	♥ 12/18 6:02pm fred: Well, if you have the code for the arrow and it doesn't mess up the rest, why not?
	12/18 6:02pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I think a song arrow is needed for anyone. It's awkward scrolling to top and bottom over and over, you don't know where to sit on the page.
	12/18 6:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: The arrow issue goes away if you reload the page after there are multiple images. So the issue is that when I dynamically add an image to the page, it doesn't get added to the list of arrow-reachable images. Will add to my list...
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Rich in Washington: I had to look that up, still b/p. That's nuts.
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): oooh, fancy!
	12/18 6:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @fred It's awkward because there's other junk below the playlist.
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: <Spock voice> Fascinating.
	12/18 6:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Color show for Tuna...
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Rand al'Thor: Ooh, new playlist stuff!
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, yeah. I reload the page and now I can embiggen Kirk or the disco colors using the arrows.
	12/18 6:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Welcome to a new world ish
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): WOW!
	♥ 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): ouch!
	♥ 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): that fade is so fancy
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): is it white on white??!!
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Came back for the music, staying for the test.
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Also the other way around
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): or i guess it's called a dissolve?
	12/18 6:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): All the worst colors, all at once. The inside joke is that all color changing abilities will be going away site-wide before long.
	♥ 12/18 6:10pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): whatever it is, fun!
	12/18 6:10pm still b/p: Filling it softly with his tracks, Filling it softly....with his tracks...
	12/18 6:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Now I have two separate cursor key worlds, one for new image and one for prior imageS.
	♥ 12/18 6:15pm Phillippe Bastille: Ok, was scrolling the playlist and when I hovered over the comments they would not scroll. When I clicked in the comments window it would then scroll. The playlist scrolled whether I clicked in it or not
	12/18 6:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB Hovered? Hard to follow what you're saying.
	12/18 6:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): FYI streamers: Bodega Pop live will be starting about 30 minutes late today. Gary stuck in a tunnel...
	12/18 6:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): That Star Trek writer woman who died recently disavowed herself of having written the first version of this episode.
	♥ 12/18 6:20pm Phillippe Bastille: Yeah, when I put my cursor over the playlist and used the scroll wheel the playlist window scrolled. When I put my cursor over the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window did not scroll. After I clicked within the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window scrolled. When I moved the cursor back over the playlist window and used the scroll mouse the playlist window scrolled without having to click inside it.
	♥ 12/18 6:22pm Phillippe Bastille: Seems to be a non-replicatable issue
	12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB I get it. Hard one to address.
	12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?
	12/18 6:25pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I'm working on crazy software that does some fun and some useful things and takes 19 years.
	♥ 12/18 6:25pm Phillippe Bastille: I'm sure. I'm still trying to figure out how urls work
	♥ 12/18 6:26pm Phillippe Bastille: This is fun! Can we do it every week?
	12/18 6:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I picked a pretty big playlist to test this on.
	12/18 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always a unique experience even more than one time.
	♥ 12/18 6:30pm fred: "test insert" showed up in the middle, then to the left, then gone, now four times to the left
	12/18 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 19 years ~ eclipse cycles - called 'Saros'.
	12/18 6:30pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Thanks Fred! All as intended.
	♥ 12/18 6:31pm fred: Now the extra line is gone
	12/18 6:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Need a feature to greyscale the avatar images
	♥ 12/18 6:35pm chresti: Ah..grey is easier on the eyeballs
	12/18 6:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Charlie Kaufman has written a book
	12/18 6:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Totally need songs auto scroll
	♥ 12/18 6:39pm Phillippe Bastille: @kenzo agreed
	12/18 6:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): New system isn't even making a blip on CPU or disks or DB
	12/18 6:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): 112 things on this playlist. Probably a wee bit above WFMU average.
	12/18 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pay no attention to that Kenzo behind the curtain. Quite a Composition indeed.
	12/18 6:47pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I should paste the source code with each song
	12/18 6:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Thanks everyone for the listening and presence and testing and talking and thinking and helping. Any ideas at all, please send them on. Watch how you can even keep typing comments after the show is over and they'll show up right away! You won't lose that last comment you were typing, either. Look, I can throw you all to the bottom temporarily and we can see...
	♥ 12/18 6:53pm WR: Now stop that Ken. Let the guts be on the inside where the guts are supposed to be. Regarding the update. Ya done good. Not sure why others saying something about auto scroll for the playlist. I'm ok without that. The now playing at the top updated and if I scroll to the bottom the entry is there.
	12/18 6:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @WR Maybe so. But now the bottom is a more fun and updated place to be looking than the now playing at the top.
	♥ 12/18 6:55pm WR: I like being in control so the auto scroll ever time now playing updates has been an irritant to me.
	♥ 12/18 6:56pm northguineahills: Thanks, Ken!
	♥ 12/18 6:57pm Rand al'Thor: Thank you for the show and the playlists, Kenzo!
	♥ 12/18 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Kenzo!
	♥ 12/18 7:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Bye, see you next time. o͡͡͡╮༼ . •́ _ʖ •̀ . ༽╭o͡͡͡
	2:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi, see you this time.
	3:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Here we are, two + three moments at once.
	3:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): We're 10 minutes or half plus 10 through, I don't know. It is holding and it is rising.
	3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): We're in WFMU's year-end fundraiser, and I'd really like to thank some of the people who've recently pledged to this show right here: Fred over in France (!), Geoff out in Scotland (!), and Tim our in South Carolina (!). Thank you!! Pledge banner way up top over there.
	3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I.e.: pledge.wfmu.org...
	4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Nature rule, Daniel-san, not mine.
	♥ 4:36pm WR: I can barely keep up with where I am now so am never sure if anything is the same, the same as when?
	4:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Exactly!
	4:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Welcome, Reality.
	4:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Time's up.
	4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): (Reading from the mailbag)
	♥ 4:58pm WR: Laters all.
	4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Fare thee wellnesses

Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza: Playlist from October 12, 2020

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October 12, 2020: Emptying Our Boxes (What's he building in there?) (Show #647/739) | Download full MP3

Contains musically magical rearranged fragments of:

LOOPS: Camper Van Beethoven, John Lennon, Kate Bush, Lemon Jelly, Jeff Lynne, Linda Draper, Bob Seger, Mark Mothersbaugh, the Mountain Goats, Nada Surf, Niki & The Dove, Nine Inch Nails, OutKast, Pink Floyd, R.E.M., Royskopp, The War On Drugs

MUSIC: Alice in Wonderland, Clem Leek, dj BC, Roots, Radiohead, Simon & Garfunkel, Jim of Seattle, John Carpenter, Jon Brion, Mark Mothersbaugh, Ole Jensen, Bach, Tom Waits

WORDS: Albert Brooks, Kathryn Beaumont, Andre Gregory, Charlie Kaufman, Christian Bale, David Lynch, Joseph Fiennes, Ray Winstone, Alan Rudolph, Garry Shandling, Sharon Stone, Harlan Ellison, Alan Watts, Pat Morita, Matt Frewer, Brent Spiner, Donald Sutherland, Julie Andrews, Richard Dreyfuss, Sesame Street, Stanley Kubrick, Leonard Nimoy, Skip Homeier, Boyd Gaines, John Lawrence, Sarah Jessica Parker, David Warner, Jerold Wells, Tom Cruise, Tony Robbins, Walter Murch, Wayne Dyer, Negativland/Wobbly, phone, Ken

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Images	New / Special	Approx. start time
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza	Emptying Our Boxes	Show #647, from May 8, 2019	2019	What's he building in there?			0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	Boxes	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Ken	We'll open some of the boxes		2019			* ***
Jon Brion	Jimmy's Breakdown	Magnolia	1999
OutKast	B.O.B. loops
Jon Brion	Jimmy's Breakdown	Magnolia
Ole Jensen and his Music	Exotica	Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)	1972
Ole Jensen and his Music	Bach-Style	Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)	1972
Jeff Lynne	Every Little Thing (remix) loop
War on Drugs	Pile of Tires loop
Wobbly, Negativland	Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission		2019
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	Years went by, what was he doing in there? The boxes have the answer	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Wobbly, Negativland	Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission		2019
Clem Leek	Burleson, TX
Clem Leek	The Lights of New York
John Carpenter	Out of Time (unused)	Escape from LA
Sarah Jessica Parker	How long have you lived here? You should unpack. You can't unpack, bc that would mean you really live here.	'Til There Was You
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio	Miyagi-isms	Karate Kid	1984
Kathryn Beaumont	My world would be a wonderland	Alice in Wonderland	1951
Polly Draper	I want to terminate	thirtySomething
Mel Harris	Don't have to do things exactly right. If you make a teeny mistake, who cares?	thirtySomething
thirtySomething	You can be right, or you can be happy	thirtySomething
Paul Simon	The Sound of Silence (without Garfunkel)
Art Garfunkel	The Sound of Silence (without Simon)
Simon and Garfunkel	The Sound of Silence (bass only)
Sarah Jessica Parker	I'd buy you a piano, you'd hate it, 'cause you'd prefer to dream of some future piano	'Til There Was You
Camper Van Beethoven	Sweethearts loops	Key Lime Pie
John Lennon	Mother loops
Camper Van Beethoven	Sweethearts loops	Key Lime Pie
John Lennon	Mother
Jonsi and Alex	Happiness loops
Kate Bush	Hounds of Love loops
Sesame Street	Two men with ideas			(Brief)
Bob Seger	Living Inside My Heart loops
Ken	Assignment: Deliver a monologue. Keep speaking until you're done. Interrupt the next monologue you hear.		2019			* ***
Phone caller (Ken)	Practice: You're never going to call again		2019			* ***
Ken	More vulnerable, less vulnerable, identification		2019			* ***
Bob Seger	Living Inside My Heart loops
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio	Miyagi wisdom	Karate Kid	1984
Pat Morita	Walk right side, safe, walk left side, safe, walk middle, sooner or later, get squished, just like grape	Karate Kid	1984
Bob Seger	Living Inside My Heart loops
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	Staying in a lot more, so the outside world no longer knew what he looked like	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	What was he doing in there	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	House is amazingly full of boxes. Some of these boxes haven't been opened for decades	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Tom Waits	What's He Building?	Mule Variations	1999
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes	Not too tight, not too loose (it's a lovely box)	Stanley Kubrick's Boxes
Kathryn Beaumont	My world would be a wonderland	Alice in Wonderland	1951
Kathryn Beaumont	In my world, everything would be what it isn't	Alice in Wonderland	1951
Christian Bale	A sheen of conssumate professionalism	American Psycho
Kathryn Beaumont	In my world, you wouldn't say meow, you'd say, yes, Miss Alice	Alice in Wonderland	1951
Lemon Jelly	Page One loops	Lemonjelly.ky	2000
OutKast	B.O.B. loops
Lemon Jelly	Page One	Lemonjelly.ky	2000
Tom Waits	What's He Building?	Mule Variations	1999	I'll tell you one thing: He's not building a playhouse for the children
Lemon Jelly	Page One	Lemonjelly.ky	2000
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio	First learn stand, then learn fly	Karate Kid	1984	Nature rule, Daniel-san, not mine.
Pat Morita	Balance good, everything good	Karate Kid	1984
Lemon Jelly	Page One	Lemonjelly.ky	2000
dj BC (Roots, Radiohead)	Nothing In Its Right Place				Everything in its right place Everything in its right place
Wobbly, Negativland	Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission		2019
Jim of Seattle	Welcome to Windows			Jim Owen, Windows 95
Bill Withers	Oh Yeah
Brendan Maclean	Stupid	Population EP	2014
Jim of Seattle	Welcome to Windows			Jim Owen, Windows 95
HAL 9000	I'm constantly occupied. I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think any conscious entity can ever hope to do	2001: A Space Odyssey
Brendan Maclean	Stupid	Population EP	2014
Leonard Nimoy	There are many who are uncomfortable with what we have created, it is almost a biological rebellion. The programming, the sterilzed, artfully balanced atmospheres. They hunger for an Eden	Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)
Mark Mothersbaugh	Snowflake Music loops	Bottle Rocket
Skip Homeier	this is poison,layers of shields,computers that run your lives,you've infected me	Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)
Bill Ehrhart	Found ways of keeping your thoughts well within the environment you were in	Vietnam interviews
Tony Robbins	Breathing exercise
Donald Sutherland	What you've done is all right	Little Murders
Brent Spiner, Matt Frewer	How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?	Star Trek TNG
Mark Mothersbaugh	Royal Tenenbaums opening theme	Royal Tenenbaums
Boyd Gaines	You know how we feel about parties	The Sure Thing
Albert Brooks	While being a very nice guy	Broadcast News
Ken	Be open about your life. You will find the people who respond to what it is to what you are doing, and you will let them love you by doing that		2015			* ***
Nada Surf	Blizzard of 77 loop
Niki & the Dove	So Much It Hurts loops
Nine Inch Nails	Hurt (instrumental) loops
Pink Floyd	One of These Days loops	Meddle
Ken	It has been said that I usually end on an optimistic note. Do you feel empowered to make changes? Someone is going to change you.		2019			* ***
Nine Inch Nails	Hurt (instrumental) loops
R.E.M.	Daysleeper loop
Jeff Lynne	Every Little Thing (remix) loop
Royksopp	Royksopp Forever loops
Sharon Stone with Garry Shandling	If you're not in your vulnerability, nothing is interesting	Garry Shandling meets Sharon Stone			rip garry larry rip garry larry
Charlie Kaufman	I wanted to do something that I don't know how to do, and offer you the experience of watching someone fumble
Andre Gregory	There's got to be another way	Some Girls
Albert Brooks	i feel like i'm slipping,but do people who are slipping feel that way,or only bc my standards are so high	Broadcast News
John Lawrence, John Carpenter	They are dismantling the sleeping middle class. We are being bred for slavery	They Live
Julie Andrews	In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun	Mary Poppins
Wayne Dyer	You don't blame your parents. You didn't know how to deal effectively with them
David Lynch	I started selling out even before we started shooting. It was making me physically sick		2014	Totally absurd to be working on something that you can't say how it should be.
Richard Dreyfuss	Audiences know what to expect, and that is all that they are prepared to believe in
Tom Cruise	I will not apologize for who I am, I will not apologize for what I need, I will not apologize for what I want	Magnolia
Walter Murch	Li: You get things you would be unlikely to get except by chance
David Lynch	Business is run on money
Ralph Richardson, Peter Vaughan	I will be free, and the world will be different. i will have knowledge of computers,supreme being created slugs,lunatic,i would've started with lasers	Time Bandits			Are we not in the hands of a lunatic? Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?
Harlan Ellison	TV on in restaurants, and nobody watching. People are stupid. They feel imposed upon if you remove that giant tit from their mouth (radio is wonderful)			You've got to have a good thumb, and that's about it.
Garry Shandling	Stand-up allowed me to find out who I authentically am
Alan Watts	It's incredibly important to unthink at least once a day
Ray Winstone, Joseph Fiennes	You have a decision to make. Every day we make hundreds of thousands of decisions. Decisions are easy	The Very Thought of You (aka "Martha - Meet Frank, Daniel and Laurence")		Time's up!
Nada Surf	Blizzard of 77 loop
Royksopp	Royksopp Forever loops
Bob Seger	Living Inside My Heart loops
Ken	A blank piece of paper in front of you, waiting for your monologue to emerge. You wondered when you'd know. How would you know when it was finished?		2019	Variation of Last Ever Feedback Page		* ***
	The end

Ken	Bonus 2020 outro		2020	Over Bob Seger today. Not in archive

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Listener comments!
	♥ 12/18 2:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Testing?
	12/18 3:00pm mb: 1-2, 1-2?
	♥ 12/18 3:00pm Phillippe Bastille: The link worked! That's a good start, right?
	♥ 12/18 3:00pm Rich in Washington: Hello. Did I pass the test?
	12/18 3:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi Ken. Comments will look the sameish. The bigger changes will be on the songs side. But comments will be different on a phone mobile browser!
	12/18 3:01pm Mary Wing: Dynamic!
	♥ 12/18 3:01pm Rich in Washington: I feel weird. Kind of dizzy. Is that normal?
	♥ 12/18 3:01pm chris: very nice.
	12/18 3:02pm Mr Fab: Hi Kenzo, how is this "dynamic" Any special bells and whistles in store? Free balloons for the kids?
	12/18 3:03pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Everything about the songs listing is super live. No more flashing page reloads once a minute.
	12/18 3:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I can even throw you all out to the bottom and then immediately welcome you back in...here comes that...
	♥ 12/18 3:04pm Phillippe Bastille: @Kenzo the no flashing will make me VERY happy.
	12/18 3:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The page should look a lot better on a phone browser. (No effect on the apps...) wfmu.org...
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington: Ooo! Fancy!
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington: There's no delay once you hit 'update'?
	♥ 12/18 3:06pm Phillippe Bastille: The one thing that's a little weird for me is that when the comments autoscroll, the bottom line is half cutoff horizontally (PC, Firefox)
	12/18 3:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Philllllllppe Yeah, I'm seeing that too right now. And the auto-scroll/arrow thing isn't always kicking in.
	12/18 3:07pm mb: I kind of like the flashing page. It has snapped me out of many cannabis induced hazes.
	♥ 12/18 3:08pm Phillippe Bastille: The autoscroll rarely worked for me
	12/18 3:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Well instead of flashing you're going to get sea sick from all the fading in and out of song changes.
	♥ 12/18 3:08pm Rich in Washington: It seems to have eliminated the persistent 'down' arrow at the bottom of the comments that I encounter w/Mac - Chrome. It actually prevents one from highlighting text - like if you wanna copy someone's name to reply. I don't see thathere, which is nice.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Dramamine, cannabis, all kind of the same
	12/18 3:09pm mb: Autoscroll rarely worked and sometimes the arrow stayed lit indicating there was a new post BUT there was not a new post.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington: I could see me getting used to the fading in playlist entries.
	12/18 3:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, the comments arrow/scroll thing didn't work right on some browsers and I think that's still the case. Maybe the persistent arrow will happen less, but I want to get that whole thing working better.
	♥ 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington: Yeah, mb. That's exactly what I meant. It was sort of a pain.
	♥ 12/18 3:11pm Phillippe Bastille: I think the down arrow was some kind of sophisticated AI/machine learner that knew someone was thinking about posting
	♥ 12/18 3:13pm Rich in Washington: Now I'm listening to two shows AND the House of Representatives hearing at the same time.
	12/18 3:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): If anyone wants to try it on a mobile browser I'd love to hear about it...
	12/18 3:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): One comments change is that if you keep commenting after the show ends and things are at the bottom, the comments will keep updating for a while; so, that last bit of convo won't be lost.
	♥ 12/18 3:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: ˙ʇsǝʇ ɹǝɥʇouɐ sᴉ ǝɹǝH
	♥ 12/18 3:17pm Rich in Washington: I'm on my Android phone now.
	♥ 12/18 3:19pm Rich in Washington: Hmmm. Honestly I don't know what the difference is, as I rarely visit playlists on my phone, but it seems a bit easier than I remember it. Definitely better than the app and unofficial app.
	12/18 3:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The text is more of a normal size rather than a crazy desktop page zoom, plus the comments and songs are kept separate (if your screen is narrow enough).
	♥ 12/18 3:21pm Rich in Washington: Yeah. I'm definitely going to read and comment this way on my phone.
	♥ 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington: Yeah. Much better than I remember it. The app is really awful for commenting.
	♥ 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington: Sorry if you had anything to do with the app.
	♥ 12/18 3:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: On Windows Firefox browser, as comments come in, I have to move the scroll bar down to see them. The floating arrow thingie isn't appearing like in the previous version (when you click it, it would zoom you down to the bottom of the comments).
	12/18 3:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Not a thing (well, it interacts with my server backend of course) and yeah it's awful. There's a new one from a new dev right around the corner, though!
	12/18 3:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP If you reload the page once, does that keep being the case?
	♥ 12/18 3:26pm chris: in duck duck go ios, i can't submit comments because the submit button is cut off
	♥ 12/18 3:26pm chris: same for safari
	♥ 12/18 3:27pm Rich in Washington: The preview/submit button works for me on Android.
	12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris Thanks for that feedback. Any chance you can send me a screenshot? To kenzo at wfmu.org
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Reloaded and now the new comments appear at the bottom automatically.
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm chresti: testing testing..
	♥ 12/18 3:28pm chris: also can't resize page in either browser (ios), so there's a lot of scrolling
	12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Yeah there seems to be a sometimes-bug on first page load but I haven't tracked it down.
	12/18 3:29pm mb: Test Sent by iPhone from the webpage not the app
	12/18 3:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris What kind of resizing do you mean? If I remove the image (doing that in a sec), does it all fit?
	12/18 3:30pm BH: on Chrome, the auto-scroll to the most recent comments might take some getting used to (as opposed to opening the page and the bar being at the bottom already)
	12/18 3:30pm mb: ^Safari browser on iPhone
	♥ 12/18 3:32pm chris: no comments at all in safari on old crappy ipad running ios 10.3.4
	12/18 3:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @BH Do you mean, it's not auto scrolling? Or on first load it's not at the bottom?
	♥ 12/18 3:33pm chris: oh let me check, Kenzo
	12/18 3:33pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @chris Oh I'd love to know what you're seeing there on your ipad...
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm chris: yeah, much better when narrower artist/tracklist. i mean resizing window with finger gestures, just bounces back to whatever the page width is
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello from Microsoft Edge browser. Nothing unusual to report.
	♥ 12/18 3:34pm Phillippe Bastille: When I scroll up to read the comments I missed when I was on a call, the floating arrow appears, so that's good, right?
	12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Does anyone still see "Changing stuff at the top..." at the top of the page?
	12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Phill Yes, that's good!
	♥ 12/18 3:35pm Phillippe Bastille: Nope
	♥ 12/18 3:35pm chris: Kenzo, on ipad, empty comments column - no comments, no post comment box
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm ParUbi: IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm chris: actually on iphone, looks like the width is defined by size of artist/tracklist table
	♥ 12/18 3:36pm Phillippe Bastille: Test song pop-ups are working
	♥ 12/18 3:37pm chris: yes on iphone and ipad to the changing stuff at top... line. not on chrome, tho
	12/18 3:37pm BH: Kenzo, I mean, it appears to be working. Open site, the comments bar starts at the top and scrolls to the most recent comments. As opposed to opening and already being at the most recent.
	♥ 12/18 3:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: I take that back about M.E. browser. It's not repainting the comments. The comment at 3:33 is at the bottom and it's overlaying new comments as they arrive. Will try sending a picture.
	12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Who sees "Do you only see this" and also sees "Changing stuff at the top..." below it?
	12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Eeek, it's writing new comments on top of old comments?
	♥ 12/18 3:39pm chris: after page reload, the changing stuff at top line went away everywhere
	♥ 12/18 3:39pm Ken From Hyde Park: Raises hand ... I see that.
	♥ 12/18 3:40pm ParUbi: I see Max from Pi
	♥ 12/18 3:40pm Phillippe Bastille: I only see the this but not the also. Viewing on Firefox and Opera (talent!)
	12/18 3:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, it'll def go away after page reload, but it shouldn't have been there...
	12/18 3:40pm Martinibomb: Tes test.. is this thing on?
	♥ 12/18 3:41pm chris: love, love, love the way the table rebuilds itself!
	12/18 3:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah I've gotta make this a bit resizeable in mobile view.
	♥ 12/18 3:44pm Phillippe Bastille: Not that any sane person would be viewing the playlist on two different browsers at the same time, but the dynamic changes happen at different times on the two browsers, sometimes first on Firefox, sometimes first on Opera
	12/18 3:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Now a whole redraw of the comments section will happen...
	12/18 3:45pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB Heh, that's OK.
	♥ 12/18 3:45pm Phillippe Bastille: Redraw worked on Firefox, couldn't tell on Opera
	♥ 12/18 3:45pm ParUbi: Everything is active.
	♥ 12/18 3:47pm Phillippe Bastille: Funny watching the two Shatners at the same time. On one side his head is whipping left, the other whipping right. Both are satisfying to watch each and of themselves, but together its pure heaven
	♥ 12/18 3:48pm -Ken: Song list is updating very gracefully on W7, Chrome 79.0
	12/18 3:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Test here
	♥ 12/18 3:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, sent over a picture from Windows 10 and the Edge browser. I don't usually use that, but fired it up to see how it worked.
	♥ 12/18 3:51pm Phillippe Bastille: Not sure if this is relevant or just interesting, but on Firefox kenzo's name is in white, Ken from HP and mine are in red, everyone else's is green. On Opera, everybody's green.
	12/18 3:55pm still b/p: Commenter names turn red in Chrome after you have clicked on them to look at listener profile. Didja look? Didjaaaaa..?
	12/18 3:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Visited profile link color is different from non-visited.
	♥ 12/18 3:56pm Rich in Washington: Dammit. I missed the twin shatner heads!
	♥ 12/18 3:57pm Rich in Washington: I never noticed the name color changing thing before. This is not new, is it?
	12/18 3:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Not new
	♥ 12/18 3:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: In the previous version, I could make the comments column wider or narrower. It seems to be at a fixed width now. Similar for the "Post comment!" box. Can't make it taller or shorter. It's a fixed height.
	♥ 12/18 4:00pm Rich in Washington: Funny. I'd long noted that some people's names were differently colored but never knew why. Pathologically, just thought to myself that's it's because everyone is better than me. I possessed the ability to change my name color all along.
	♥ 12/18 4:02pm Rich in Washington: Is it significantly different under the hood for programmers, Kenzo?
	12/18 4:03pm still b/p: Everyone must now click on alternate names in the whole comment stack -- A, not B, then C, not D. Making red/green. Because Christmas.
	♥ 12/18 4:03pm Phillippe Bastille: Hmm, don't think I ever looked at Ken's profile. Pretty sure I looked at Rich's and it is green (Rich, are you the guy who started a show on Sheena, or was that someone else's profile I looked at?). Looked at still b/p on Opera and it is red but is still green on Firefox. I need to close one of these before I go crazy.
	♥ 12/18 4:04pm Rich in Washington: I did start a show on Sheena's! I'm still starting it every week!
	12/18 4:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Rich, what are you asking?
	♥ 12/18 4:05pm Rich in Washington: I see now that people's names/profile links just follow visited link behaviors.
	♥ 12/18 4:06pm Phillippe Bastille: Then I DID look at your profile. But your name is still green (sigh). Ken from HP, you don't have a show, do you?
	♥ 12/18 4:06pm Rich in Washington: Oh, just curious what the programmer side of the playlist will look like, if it's significantly different, etc. I can take my answers off the air.
	12/18 4:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I mean about programmers
	12/18 4:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): You mean for DJ's, ah. No changes there.
	12/18 4:08pm Mr Fab: Doesn't seem much different on desktop PC/Google, but agreed on the Android phone - MUCH improved, thank you, good sir!
	12/18 4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hmm I can make mobile zoom-inable but not zoom-outable.
	12/18 4:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): On mobile, I'm finding this new way where you might have to scroll left and right on the songs list if it's very detailed to be far better than the old way.
	12/18 4:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Thanks for screenshot about the W10 Edge Browser issue. Serious...happening consistently, comments are always getting overlaid?
	12/18 4:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP If you reload your page, wait for one comment to come, and then show me that screenshot, I could better understand what on earth is happening there.
	♥ 12/18 4:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: Out for a quick walk. Will make another screenshot when I get back. Emoji test: ♥️ ☠️
	♥ 12/18 4:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: Santa and football emojis and text that followed did not appear.
	12/18 4:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): That's probably not a new problem. Some newer unicode doesn't work here yet.
	♥ 12/18 4:28pm Ike: Greetings, humans!
	12/18 4:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi Ike! Watch the songs list for a sec
	♥ 12/18 4:37pm Ike: Oops, sorry, I may have missed something in the songs list because I was working.
	12/18 4:39pm still b/p: Quite unrelated to important visual and technical assessments, but a thin degree of fun: When I grab any edge of the browser window to adjust size, Shatner slows down and gets haltingly slappy while the adjustment is active, like his paw's taking a dramatic pause.
	♥ 12/18 4:42pm Ike: In Chrome it seems even harder than usual to adjust the frame size. It's always a pain in Chrome (I prefer Firefox, but there are work issues).
	12/18 4:43pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Which frame size...be specific?
	♥ 12/18 4:44pm Ike: When trying to grab the vertical line between the comments and the main playlist window and move it left or right.
	12/18 4:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Is it even possible anymore?
	♥ 12/18 4:49pm Ike: Not as far as I can tell, but I haven't been able to devote much time to it.
	12/18 4:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah, can't do it anymore, although I'd like to restore that ability. Thanks for mentioning!
	♥ 12/18 4:53pm Ken From Hyde Park: I minimized the Edge browser window before taking my break and it seems to be behaving normally now. Going to try closing the window and opening a new one.
	♥ 12/18 4:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: And that comment broke it again. I have a fresh screengrab to send.
	12/18 4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Is this an otherwise normal computer and normal-working browser?
	♥ 12/18 4:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yes, up-to-date Windows 10 and as far as I know Edge is up to date. I normally use Firefox.
	12/18 4:57pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I look forward to seeing if others have Edge issues today too.
	12/18 4:58pm still b/p: Don't know if this matters or you already covered it: When adjusting browser window size horizontally to be smaller, going from either left or right, everything at the top and the comments area adapts with line-breaks, etc. to stay "whole" and visible, but the actual playlist grid stays same size/layout and gets covered up by the comments stack as it slides across. Eventually, at the max horiz adjustment it'll let me do, the left section of the playlist is only visible to half the "Format" column. On Irwin's now-active playlist, his 3 columns do reduce themselves horizontally to stay visible. On David W now-active playlist, the horizontal adjustment will have comment area moving over to cover just his far-right DJ comment column. Make sense?
	12/18 4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @still, which browser and OS?
	12/18 5:02pm still b/p: Chrome Version 79.0.3945.79 on an old Mac, OS X El Capitan 10.11.6
	♥ 12/18 5:03pm fred: Hello Kenzo and all
	♥ 12/18 5:06pm chresti: Looking with a chrome browser on a windows 10 laptop, I don't see much difference except the fade-in when a new track or image appears
	♥ 12/18 5:06pm ParUbi: Re-joining, hello everyone.
	12/18 5:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The fact that each new song is fading in twice instead of once is not a sign of a problem...it only has to do with a very unusual thing I have to do with today's playlist.
	♥ 12/18 5:11pm chresti: I like the fade-in effect
	12/18 5:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Test in a mobile or tablet browser if you can! wfmu.org...
	♥ 12/18 5:14pm fred: Looks good to me, now that I know the second fade-in is intentional. Should I be looking at anything special?
	♥ 12/18 5:15pm Ken From Hyde Park: Observation on Android / Chrome: with the phone vertical, you must choose either the song playlist grid or the comments. Turn the phone sideways and in landscape mode, you see both.
	12/18 5:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: That's by design. Do you see the button to switch back and forth?
	♥ 12/18 5:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: Yes, it works well.
	12/18 5:19pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Someone try favoriting new songs if you haven't yet.
	♥ 12/18 5:21pm Ike: Favoriting seems OK on an iPhone Ghostery browser.
	♥ 12/18 5:21pm fred: The timestamp in the rightmost column only appears on the second fade-in, but I guess that's intentional Also, the font in the comment box looks bigger than usual
	12/18 5:21pm Mr Fab: I favorited a song. Got the yellow star.
	12/18 5:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I'll have to increase the frequency of favorites data updates, so you aren't disturbed by the disappearance of your star for 30 seconds before it comes back.
	12/18 5:22pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): When a song gets updated, star might go away and then come back on its own, which isn't a new issue, always confuses some people, but will happen more now with the frequent song updates...will adjust soon.
	♥ 12/18 5:24pm Rich in Washington: The stars are coming out. There's a voice saying 'the stars are coming out'.
	♥ 12/18 5:25pm Ken From Hyde Park: At some point, will there be "thumbs down" boxes for Felder tracks?
	♥ 12/18 5:27pm fred: Very minor detail: when a new comment comes up, the last line is not completely visible, I have to scroll down a little (this doesn't happen on Irwin's playlist (Firefox 71.0, Windows 10 1903/18362.535)
	12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @fred Yeah for me too and others... Is auto-scroll/arrow thing working for you? It's supposed to auto-scroll to next comment if you're already at the bottom, or fade the arrow into view if you're not at the bottom, and then arrow disappear after you scroll to bottom or after you click it, which also scrolls to bottom.
	12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Oh yeah I forgot I can play with colors
	12/18 5:30pm still b/p: A pumpkin spice seizure!
	12/18 5:31pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Reload the page once, and then I can play with background colors subsequently.
	12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Anyone have a good idea for a font? And I wonder if different font make comment space at bottom go away.
	12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Nope it doesn't.
	12/18 5:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Can't believe my phone doesn't support comic sans
	♥ 12/18 5:36pm fred: The auto-scroll arrow did appear and worked as described
	12/18 5:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Anyone else using Edge? Seems problematic from one report... Anyone else have an iPad or other tablet to test on?
	♥ 12/18 5:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: What was that one? Comic Sans? It went to the separator line for that one. Otherwise, it seems to be the bottom-most pixel of the text.
	12/18 5:39pm still b/p: I x n a y o n i s t h a y o n t f a y.
	♥ 12/18 5:39pm chresti: The font is different
	12/18 5:40pm Dave In St Albans UK: I am using the "unofficial" Woof Moo WFMU app on Android. Everything on all streams working perfectly. Like a dream!
	♥ 12/18 5:40pm chresti: now it's better
	12/18 5:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): The app is unaffected. I'm looking for people to test from mobile browsers.
	♥ 12/18 5:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: I notice that on the phone, I can make the page reload by swiping down. Couldn't do that on the old version. Had to navigate to the refresh icon.
	12/18 5:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I really want to automate the rapid changing of colors. It'll be such a hit
	♥ 12/18 5:44pm Rich in Washington: oh, that's crazy. I keep thinking there's something wrong with my monitors
	♥ 12/18 5:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: Dͨ͗̇ͥͩ̇ͥo͗͐ͣe̲̖̤̗ͨͣͭ̃s̖͇͒̃ t̠̼̣͓̘̱̃ͩ̑̓͛͒h͉̯̳̰͙̼͋͆ͤ̉̎̋i͒͒s̘̗̫̭̹̝̓͊͐ͫ̃̂ ̖͇̦̘͖̳̆̋̓̿̈̉me̥̬͓͈͉̗͑̈́ͥ͆̉̄s̝̯͍̤s̱̫̬͂͆̾ up͐̌̽͊ ͭ̄ͮ̋̀a̜̪̳̯̩̲͇ͫ͊ͯ̉̆̍ͩn̎̄ͧ̇̐y͒̈́̀ṭ̼̗̞̰̒̈̊ͤ͋h̺̮͓̯̜ͅi̥̫̞̭̲̝̓ͦ͛ͬ͗̀n̘̼͂̒ġ͗̎͋̓̒̌?
	♥ 12/18 5:46pm Ike: Auto-color change would be hilarious.
	12/18 5:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: Actually, it DOES mess up some things! How interesting.
	12/18 5:49pm Dave in St Alban's UK: Using Edge on Android. Comments section displaying nicely with the background colour changing. Fun! I can't shrink the playlist to fit my screen though.
	♥ 12/18 5:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: www.zalgogenerator.com
	12/18 5:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Dave Yeah, I can't find a way to allow mobile shrinking...
	12/18 5:52pm tester: Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but the comments & posting parts of the page are empty on Safari (version 12 on iPad, version 13 on Mac/Catalina)
	12/18 5:52pm still b/p: iPhone 8 v 13.1.2 When I go sideways, I get playlist and it makes some right-side space for comment column but there's nothing there in that column, just bg color without any text, lines, boxes, borders. I can do the back and forth full-screen from list to comments if holding phone in vertical orientation.
	12/18 5:52pm Martinibomb: awesome looking!
	12/18 5:52pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi, tester. Can you be more specific? A screenshot would be really nice, too. Send to kenzo at wfmu.org
	12/18 5:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): It sounds like tablet responsive view isn't working right, or maybe it's iOS specific...
	12/18 5:54pm tester: OK (BTW it's ok on iOS for iPhone)
	12/18 5:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I wonder if an arrow-like effect is needed for the songs list as well, so you know there's something at the bottom to scroll to see. I keep forgetting to scroll.
	12/18 5:55pm Dave in St Alban's UK: Really like the crazy background and text colour changes. Some combinations are easier on the eyes. :-)
	♥ 12/18 5:55pm Rich in Washington: Oh man! My cones and rods! I am bleeding from the eyeholes.
	♥ 12/18 5:55pm ParUbi: This is a pretty unreadable combination :D
	♥ 12/18 5:56pm ParUbi: well, it was
	♥ 12/18 5:57pm Rich in Washington: uh oh! Someone left the playlist out in the sun or washed it in warm water or both.
	♥ 12/18 5:57pm northguineahills: The comments overlaying on each other reflect the lyrical content of the show.
	12/18 5:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I want to do a BPM-synched color changing effect.
	♥ 12/18 5:59pm fred: A playlist arrow might be useful for your show, but maybe not many others
	12/18 6:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Yeah I was thinking that. But maybe....
	♥ 12/18 6:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Image observation: with the old version, if you click on an image to enlarge it, you could use the up- or down-arrow key to go to the next one and enlarge it. With this version, they keys scroll the page up/down and the enlarged image moves with along with the page.
	♥ 12/18 6:00pm ParUbi: Karate means "empty hand" right? So where isn't karate? When you're holding something. Bam!
	12/18 6:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Lemme add more images and see
	12/18 6:01pm still b/p: T-Mobile will sue you if you use magenta. They've sued others.
	♥ 12/18 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: I should amend that. The up/down arrow makes the image go back to its embedded state.
	♥ 12/18 6:02pm fred: Well, if you have the code for the arrow and it doesn't mess up the rest, why not?
	12/18 6:02pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I think a song arrow is needed for anyone. It's awkward scrolling to top and bottom over and over, you don't know where to sit on the page.
	12/18 6:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP: The arrow issue goes away if you reload the page after there are multiple images. So the issue is that when I dynamically add an image to the page, it doesn't get added to the list of arrow-reachable images. Will add to my list...
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Rich in Washington: I had to look that up, still b/p. That's nuts.
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): oooh, fancy!
	12/18 6:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @fred It's awkward because there's other junk below the playlist.
	♥ 12/18 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: <Spock voice> Fascinating.
	12/18 6:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Color show for Tuna...
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Rand al'Thor: Ooh, new playlist stuff!
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, yeah. I reload the page and now I can embiggen Kirk or the disco colors using the arrows.
	12/18 6:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Welcome to a new world ish
	♥ 12/18 6:07pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): WOW!
	♥ 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): ouch!
	♥ 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): that fade is so fancy
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): is it white on white??!!
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Came back for the music, staying for the test.
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille: Also the other way around
	♥ 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): or i guess it's called a dissolve?
	12/18 6:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): All the worst colors, all at once. The inside joke is that all color changing abilities will be going away site-wide before long.
	♥ 12/18 6:10pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): whatever it is, fun!
	12/18 6:10pm still b/p: Filling it softly with his tracks, Filling it softly....with his tracks...
	12/18 6:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @KenFHP Now I have two separate cursor key worlds, one for new image and one for prior imageS.
	♥ 12/18 6:15pm Phillippe Bastille: Ok, was scrolling the playlist and when I hovered over the comments they would not scroll. When I clicked in the comments window it would then scroll. The playlist scrolled whether I clicked in it or not
	12/18 6:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB Hovered? Hard to follow what you're saying.
	12/18 6:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): FYI streamers: Bodega Pop live will be starting about 30 minutes late today. Gary stuck in a tunnel...
	12/18 6:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): That Star Trek writer woman who died recently disavowed herself of having written the first version of this episode.
	♥ 12/18 6:20pm Phillippe Bastille: Yeah, when I put my cursor over the playlist and used the scroll wheel the playlist window scrolled. When I put my cursor over the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window did not scroll. After I clicked within the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window scrolled. When I moved the cursor back over the playlist window and used the scroll mouse the playlist window scrolled without having to click inside it.
	♥ 12/18 6:22pm Phillippe Bastille: Seems to be a non-replicatable issue
	12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @PB I get it. Hard one to address.
	12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?
	12/18 6:25pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I'm working on crazy software that does some fun and some useful things and takes 19 years.
	♥ 12/18 6:25pm Phillippe Bastille: I'm sure. I'm still trying to figure out how urls work
	♥ 12/18 6:26pm Phillippe Bastille: This is fun! Can we do it every week?
	12/18 6:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I picked a pretty big playlist to test this on.
	12/18 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always a unique experience even more than one time.
	♥ 12/18 6:30pm fred: "test insert" showed up in the middle, then to the left, then gone, now four times to the left
	12/18 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 19 years ~ eclipse cycles - called 'Saros'.
	12/18 6:30pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Thanks Fred! All as intended.
	♥ 12/18 6:31pm fred: Now the extra line is gone
	12/18 6:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Need a feature to greyscale the avatar images
	♥ 12/18 6:35pm chresti: Ah..grey is easier on the eyeballs
	12/18 6:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Charlie Kaufman has written a book
	12/18 6:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Totally need songs auto scroll
	♥ 12/18 6:39pm Phillippe Bastille: @kenzo agreed
	12/18 6:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): New system isn't even making a blip on CPU or disks or DB
	12/18 6:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): 112 things on this playlist. Probably a wee bit above WFMU average.
	12/18 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pay no attention to that Kenzo behind the curtain. Quite a Composition indeed.
	12/18 6:47pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I should paste the source code with each song
	12/18 6:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Thanks everyone for the listening and presence and testing and talking and thinking and helping. Any ideas at all, please send them on. Watch how you can even keep typing comments after the show is over and they'll show up right away! You won't lose that last comment you were typing, either. Look, I can throw you all to the bottom temporarily and we can see...
	♥ 12/18 6:53pm WR: Now stop that Ken. Let the guts be on the inside where the guts are supposed to be. Regarding the update. Ya done good. Not sure why others saying something about auto scroll for the playlist. I'm ok without that. The now playing at the top updated and if I scroll to the bottom the entry is there.
	12/18 6:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @WR Maybe so. But now the bottom is a more fun and updated place to be looking than the now playing at the top.
	♥ 12/18 6:55pm WR: I like being in control so the auto scroll ever time now playing updates has been an irritant to me.
	♥ 12/18 6:56pm northguineahills: Thanks, Ken!
	♥ 12/18 6:57pm Rand al'Thor: Thank you for the show and the playlists, Kenzo!
	♥ 12/18 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Kenzo!
	♥ 12/18 7:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Bye, see you next time. o͡͡͡╮༼ . •́ _ʖ •̀ . ༽╭o͡͡͡
	2:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Hi, see you this time.
	3:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Here we are, two + three moments at once.
	3:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): We're 10 minutes or half plus 10 through, I don't know. It is holding and it is rising.
	3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): We're in WFMU's year-end fundraiser, and I'd really like to thank some of the people who've recently pledged to this show right here: Fred over in France (!), Geoff out in Scotland (!), and Tim our in South Carolina (!). Thank you!! Pledge banner way up top over there.
	3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): I.e.: pledge.wfmu.org...
	4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Nature rule, Daniel-san, not mine.
	♥ 4:36pm WR: I can barely keep up with where I am now so am never sure if anything is the same, the same as when?
	4:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Exactly!
	4:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Welcome, Reality.
	4:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Time's up.
	4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): (Reading from the mailbag)
	♥ 4:58pm WR: Laters all.
	4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Fare thee wellnesses

Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza: Playlist from October 12, 2020

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