WFMU: Tony Coulter: Playlist from December 29, 2020

Listener comments!
	11:55am Tony Coulter: Hello, all! Today's mystery LP-under-the-cassettes is really obscure, so I'll just ID it right off the bat (you can pretend you would have known it). Anyway, it's a s/t 1983 LP by the Noh Buddies: www.discogs.com...
	12:01pm spodiodi: greetings, Tony Coulter and Coulterites! i've always been a sucker for mystery
	🥁 12:01pm listener james from westwood: Happy last-Tape-Hiss-of-2020, Tony and all! Happy to be enjoying this one sans work today and with doughnuts & coffee!
	12:02pm Tony Coulter: Hey, hey, hey, spodi & james!
	12:02pm Sem: Hello, Tony, the 'spodi', and ljfw. I, too, love a mhisstery.
	12:02pm Tony Coulter: I don't have donuts and coffee, but I do have ironwort -- my new favorite tea.
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, Sem!
	12:06pm spodiodi: hi james and S'em! ironwort? never heard of it... investigating. preliminary attempt to determine mystery album has proven fruitless
	12:07pm Tony Coulter: Ironwort, aka mountain tea and shepherd's tea.
	12:07pm coelacanth∅: greetings Tony and hiss connoisseurs
	12:08pm Tony Coulter: Greets, coel!
	12:08pm spodiodi: i'm reading all about it. i've taken st john's wort before. otherwise i'm wort-ignorant. hi coel!
	🥁 12:10pm Yvang: I would have swear it was the X from "Drums and Wires" from this other obscure band from England.
	🥁 12:10pm Yvang: Hi Tony and listeners! Now I am gonna lhissten silently and religiously.
	12:10pm Tony Coulter: This Etat Brut tape certainly provides your daily dose of hiss. The volume level of the music is very low, so I have to crank it way up -- hence, the hiss quotient is expanded.
	12:11pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy, Yvang!
	12:12pm spodiodi: this is rather hissy hi Yvang!
	12:12pm Tony Coulter: Oh, by the way, the Belgian release of this cassette is called "Acier" (as in the French word for steel).
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: And ... the Etat Brut cassette is the blue one on your left.
	12:14pm spodiodi: iron (sideritis tea), steel (acier steel), this show today is metal af!
	12:14pm spodiodi: \m/
	12:15pm Tony Coulter: Ha! Very true!
	🥁 12:19pm WR: Have not had ironwort tea before, unless it was one of many ingredients in a blend herbal tea. Will look to give a try.
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, WR! It's a very primitive looking tea. It looks like someone just uprooted a bush, tore it into a few pieces, and tossed it into a bag.
	🥁 12:22pm WR: Jame's comment about donut & tea nudging me to eat the coconut chocolate pastry in the fridge with my 2nd cup of chai this morning.
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: I said (on mic) that I didn't know the identities of Etat Brut's members. Here's what discogs has to say: "Members are (said to be) 2 science teachers, both called Philippe."
	🥁 12:24pm ynod: Thiss hitss the sspot- Hello all !
	12:25pm Tony Coulter: Hey there, ynod!
	12:25pm spodiodi: hi WR! coconut chocolate pastry sounds nice hi ynod! (nice icon)
	🥁 12:26pm WR: I am reminded how little I know of botany and plants when confronted with the sentence: "Sideritis inflorescence is verticillaster"
	🥁 12:28pm WR: Hi spodiodi, like your avatar. Stealing to use for a day when I just want to blend in.
	12:30pm spodiodi: thanks, and steal away, WR! i snagged it from the wfmu user profile page background, and then stretched it into a square (like me). i was at a loss (and maybe going a bit for the blend-in thing as well)
	🥁 12:30pm WR: I chimed in at the end of Matt's show that he should feed his stomach something better than donuts and cookies. People in glass houses...
	12:32pm spodiodi: regardless of the construction materials in your house, one should never throw a perfectly good donut (unless it's into my mouth)
	12:32pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi!
	12:33pm coelacanth∅: hey Yvang
	🥁 12:34pm ynod: Tony- do you indulge in the Voodoo Donuts?
	12:36pm coelacanth∅: ironwort, huh...why do you drink that?
	12:36pm coelacanth∅: (i just looked) ...that's a new one on me
	12:37pm Tony Coulter: @ ynod: I did, for the first couple of years after I moved to Portland -- but I've kicked the habit. Not to shock anyone here with my puritanicalness, but ... I'm off sugar these days. (Though I did indulge in bread pudding a few times this Christmas season.)
	12:40pm Tony Coulter: Guess it's a bit late to be mentioning this, but: today's Tape Hiss will be focused on industrial music of various stripes.
	🥁 12:40pm ynod: Good thing! I'd like to see you stick around as long as possible so I can enjoy your radio show well into my old age. :)
	🥁 12:41pm WR: I just had a couple seconds of silence, is it that way on the recording or random glitch in my connection?
	12:41pm Tony Coulter: A glitch, I think.
	🥁 12:44pm WR: Was quite effective in getting me to refocus on the drone. Will use that effect when I do a remix release of this.
	12:47pm spodiodi: on the sugar thing: i cut out 1/3 of my oatmeal raisins this morning ᕦ( ° ͜ʖ °)ᕤ
	🥁 12:48pm WR: "Musique pour Chambre à Gaz" does mean what one might assume. Ok. Pastry and comment break time over. Back to work. Hopefully listening not interrupted by work calls.
	🥁 12:50pm ynod: Spodiodi- cool lil' cartoony-face there- your device must do things mine cannot.
	🥁 12:51pm ynod: I can't even figure out an umlaut
	12:52pm spodiodi: cheers, WR (i added some detail to my avatar to make it blend in even more ;)
	12:52pm spodiodi: ynod, i just copy and pasted it from here www.lennyfaceguru.com although some of the characters are not supported well here
	🥁 12:53pm ynod: Aha!
	12:58pm spodiodi: nothing like a little totalitarism to get things moving
	1:02pm coelacanth∅: Tony congratulations on your abstinence from refined sugar. it's not puritanical, it's actually reasonable, as opposed to how most people eat. i'm actually as bad as ever with the sugar. i eat 2-3 chocolates almost every day and way too much honey in my tea. it's probably killing me.
	1:04pm coelacanth∅: ynod what's a voodoo doughnut?
	1:05pm coelacanth∅: ...("donut")
	🥁 1:05pm ynod: Local Portland-based donut chain. Nothing supernatural. Nothing natural at all, really!
	1:06pm Tony Coulter: @ coel: Voodoo Donuts is a chain here in Portland. The owner ran for mayor, and they even have their own record label.
	1:07pm spodiodi: i've seen voodoo donuts on some (waste-of-time) tv program a while back, though have never been there
	1:07pm coelacanth∅: ah, Thanks ynod. are they better than what dunkin' donuts has become?
	1:07pm coelacanth∅: ...and Tony
	1:07pm spodiodi: i got the impression they cost way more than dunkin donuts
	1:08pm coelacanth∅: well, if they're edible maybe they're worth it?
	1:08pm spodiodi: (like, for the $8 avocado toast and $50 burger crowd)
	1:09pm spodiodi: and dunkin donuts doesn't have toppings like bacon (and candy bars?)
	🥁 1:09pm ynod: @coel~ Haven't eaten any at all in quite a while, but last time I checked, Dunkie's is a pale shadow of my childhood donut memories.
	1:09pm coelacanth∅: a few months ago my sister and i lamented that her kids will never know how wonderful dunkin' donuts once was. - long time gone. now.
	🥁 1:10pm ynod: I can't believe I ever enjoyed their coffee.
	1:11pm spodiodi: i haven't had a dunkin donut either, in many years
	1:12pm coelacanth∅: i think their coffee was weak (at best) by the time i first tried it, decades ago; but when i was a child the doughnuts were made on premises every morning and they had... 35?... 40? different ones to choose from - none bad.
	1:12pm Tony Coulter: Voodoo Donuts certainly has more indie cred/cachet than Dunkin' Donuts: They've released music by Poison Idea and Dead Moon. www.voodoodoughnutrecordings.com
	1:12pm Tony Coulter: (Which I find comical.)
	🥁 1:13pm ynod: In stark contrast to all this donut-talk, I've been summoned downstairs to enjoy a vegan "beetloaf" for lunch. I'll be back.
	1:14pm coelacanth∅: haha -comical, and kind of cool! although i'm never impressed with overpriced food)
	1:14pm coelacanth∅: beetloaf. i want to try that!
	1:14pm spodiodi: enjoy, ynod (dwight shrute would approve; yesterday, was just thinking about a beet burger that i had a while back for whatever reason)
	1:15pm spodiodi: reminds me of A Christmas Story "Meatloaf, smeatloaf, double-beatloaf. I hate meatloaf."
	1:16pm Mark Williams: My early years were spent in Europe. My mother is from there and my whole life has been a mix of one foot in one culture, one foot in another. But the context provided of being from somewhere else, and having a mother who recognized much about the U.S. that was dysfunctional, gave me an early perspective about, say, diet in the US. The sugar issue alone is so plainly clear for me, but I'm always semi-surprised still to run into intelligent, discerning Americans who cannot outrun their upbringing, as it were.
	1:17pm coelacanth∅: (spodi @114 so would "Alobar" from jitterbug perfume)
	1:18pm Tony Coulter: Hey, Mark!
	1:19pm Tony Coulter: My dentist once commented to me that if sugar was a recent invention, it would be illegal.
	1:20pm Tony Coulter: Processed sugar, I mean. I guess it's been grandfathered in.
	1:21pm spodiodi: i haven't read that, coel. i should put it on the list of books i should read
	1:22pm coelacanth∅: Mark i don't know if the intelligent part applies here, but i do know how profoundly what i consume affects my health. and i'm a "health nut" by american standards. i'm slightly ashamed of my dietary habits.
	1:23pm Tony Coulter: I'm practically a health nazi.
	1:24pm Mark Williams: @coelacantO - i didn't mean to suggest a glaring irony in writing "intelligent people," so I apologize if it came across that way. I guess it was me observing that how one grows up just hugely dominates everything that comes after that. Comfort food, cravings, associations... all of it. And we can't forget portion control. Hey Tony - what about some Portion Control!!
	1:24pm spodiodi: discovered this analogy recently, and can't stop thinking about it " Think of your body like a sugar bowl. If you eat lots of sugar and glucose, the bowl fills up. If you eat more glucose, then it overflows and spills into the blood." www.dietdoctor.com... “Can you get type 2 diabetes again once you’ve reversed it?” by Dr. Jason Fung
	1:25pm coelacanth∅: Tony that's a brilliant observation! i wonder how pasteurized, homogenized, hormone and drug laden cow milk would fair, legally, without the supremely powerful milk lobby and advertising lies...
	1:26pm Mark Williams: These kinds of industrial sounds always remind me of RRRecords.
	1:27pm coelacanth∅: Mark i think i understood you, and never considered being offended!
	1:28pm Tony Coulter: @ Mark: Ah, yes, RRRon Lessard. Have very little Portion Control, somehow -- should probably work on that.
	1:29pm Sem: Coel, I thank you for sending me to wikithingy and the precis of Jitterbug Perfume. Whatever was I doing in the 80s to have missed that book?
	1:31pm coelacanth∅: my favorite Tom Robbins book, and i love Tom Robbins... with occasional reservation!
	1:32pm coelacanth∅: i didn't read it until 10-15 years ago. in fact i never read a novel until about 15 years ago.
	1:39pm Sem: All of a sudden more time on your hands? I've only recently been reading Gravity's Rainbow, which was a late 60s post modern super hit. I've come unstuck in time myself, it seems.
	1:39pm Tony Coulter: My reading habits have been really weird since the pandemic began. I'm mostly only reading mysteries, because they relax me -- and most of them have been by either Donald E. Westlake (aka Richard Stark) or Margaret Millar. I think by now I've read around 30 Westlake books.
	🥁 1:41pm ynod: Back from lunch. More Hiss now.
	1:44pm Tony Coulter: The beets you consumed have made your icon even more purple.
	1:44pm Tony Coulter: (If that qualifies as purple)
	🥁 1:44pm ynod: So it seems!
	🥁 1:45pm ynod: I once read about a study claiming that people who have consumed psychedelics at any point can see further into the violet spectrum than those who have not.
	1:46pm coelacanth∅: Sem no, less time than ever. but i used to only read books for information, or peace. ...reference books about health and sickness, and sometimes history, science, etc... and zen philosophy books.
	1:47pm Tony Coulter: @ ynod: Well ... umm.
	1:47pm coelacanth∅: this voice reminds me of Shooby Taylor!
	🥁 1:49pm ynod: @Tony~ My icon is actually blue. What are you seeing? ;)
	1:49pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	1:52pm Tony Coulter: The track on now was titled "Sex Recall" when it appeared elsewhere, on a comp.
	1:53pm Sem: This just in from the BBC: "Cassette tape sales are estimated to have doubled this year compared to 2019. The British Phonographic Industry, which represents record labels, projects 157,000 tapes will have been sold in the UK in 2020."
	2:00pm Tony Coulter: Originally, so many artists released music on cassette only because it was the cheapest way to do it. These days I suspect there's a bit of media fetishizing going on when artists/labels opt for cassette -- though, of course, cassette releases are still much cheaper (and faster) to do than vinyl or CDs (but maybe not than CD-Rs?)
	2:04pm Tony Coulter: (Ha! I'm lucky I can correct my typos.)
	2:08pm Tony Coulter: The tape on now is the white one with shades.
	2:11pm spodiodi: B^\|
	🥁 2:20pm ynod: beautiful track.
	2:22pm Little Fyodor: Liked that Dial Me piece!!
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Lil' Fyo! Heya!!
	2:25pm Tony Coulter: Love the icon.
	2:35pm coelacanth∅: Tony @2.00 if you're doing it at home it's many times less expensive to make a cd release than a cassette. for many years now. cds are ~30¢ each for the best quality ones, cassettes are several dollars each for decent ones. cd/paper printer, $100.
	2:36pm Little Fyodor: Haha, thanks Tony!!
	🥁 2:43pm ynod: @coel~ Do you mean a hundred-dollar unit that both burns and prints onto CD-R's?
	2:50pm coelacanth∅: ynod no that's just the printer. ...i didn't even think about quantity reproduction, since i've never had to. i duplicate 1 cd at a time. a cd burner that duplicates 4-5(?) cds at a time was around $350 a year or 2 ago, if i remember correctly. supposedly a decent one. ... but if you're duplicating cassettes at home, how many can you produce at a time? in my case, 1.
	🥁 2:54pm ynod: Coel~ not exactly major label distribution then. :)
	2:55pm spodiodi: thanks, Tony! Happy New Year! cheerio all!
	🥁 2:55pm WR: Thank you Tony!
	2:56pm listener James from Westwood: Thanks most kindly for keeping my 2020 Tuesdays on an even keel, and safe travels into 2021!
	2:57pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, everybody! Was great to have you along for 2020. Hope to see you here next year!
	🥁 2:57pm ynod: Many thanks Tony.Hope to see you all next week/year!
	2:57pm coelacanth∅: haha - not exactly ... an alternative, if you want to burn multiple cds at once is buy multiple external cd burners for ~20 bucks each and plug them in simultaneously to the source.
	2:58pm coelacanth∅: (still have to print them one-at-a-time)
	2:58pm Sem: Thx, Tony! Lovely Hiss! today. Later, all.
	🥁 2:58pm Yvang: Thanks, Tony!
	2:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Tony!

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December 29, 2020: Tony Coulter Presents Tape Hiss: Etat Brut, Nature and Organisation, Somewhere in Europe [PLEASE NOTE: "Tape Hiss" shows are not archived.]

Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year
The In-Theme	Holger Hiller: Toyshopshoptoy

Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	L.D. "L.D." by "Etat Brut + 2 Tracks"	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Arbeit "Arbeit" by "Etat Brut + 2 Tracks"	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Acier (Steel)	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Fevrier 83 "Fevrier 83" by "Etat Brut + 2 Tracks"	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Toxic Habit "Toxic Habit" by "Etat Brut + 2 Tracks"	Steel	Aeon	1983

Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Musique pour Chambre à Gaz	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Synapse "Synapse" by "Etat Brut + 2 Tracks"	Steel	Aeon	1983
Etat Brut + 2 Tracks	Totalitarism	Steel	Aeon	1983

Nature and Organisation	Third Terminal Position 1	Third Terminal Position	Sound of Pig	1986
Nature and Organisation	Third Terminal Position 2	Third Terminal Position	Sound of Pig	1986

Bone Clinic	(no track titles) "(no track titles)" by "Bone Clinic"	Third Terminal Position	Sound of Pig	1986

Somewhere in Europe	Never Go Back	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Separate Torsos	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Night "Night" by "Somewhere in Europe"	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	The Last Summer	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Dial Me "Dial Me" by "Somewhere in Europe"	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990

Somewhere in Europe	Blood of Martyrs (Apocalypse Mix)	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	23 "23" by "Somewhere in Europe"	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Shepherd of Fire	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Automatic Love	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990
Somewhere in Europe	Dark Age "Dark Age" by "Somewhere in Europe"	Know Your Enemy...	These Silences	1990

Nurse With Wound	Dueling Banjos (1980)	The Ladies Home Tickler	United Dairies	1993

Assassination By List	Untitled "Untitled" by "Assassination By List"	V.A.: Sensationnel No. 2	RE: Fractal	1984
The Out-Theme	Gelbart: My Favorite Vacation [part of] + Die Trip Computer Die: Airborn [part of]

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Listener comments!
	11:55am Tony Coulter: Hello, all! Today's mystery LP-under-the-cassettes is really obscure, so I'll just ID it right off the bat (you can pretend you would have known it). Anyway, it's a s/t 1983 LP by the Noh Buddies: www.discogs.com...
	12:01pm spodiodi: greetings, Tony Coulter and Coulterites! i've always been a sucker for mystery
	🥁 12:01pm listener james from westwood: Happy last-Tape-Hiss-of-2020, Tony and all! Happy to be enjoying this one sans work today and with doughnuts & coffee!
	12:02pm Tony Coulter: Hey, hey, hey, spodi & james!
	12:02pm Sem: Hello, Tony, the 'spodi', and ljfw. I, too, love a mhisstery.
	12:02pm Tony Coulter: I don't have donuts and coffee, but I do have ironwort -- my new favorite tea.
	12:03pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, Sem!
	12:06pm spodiodi: hi james and S'em! ironwort? never heard of it... investigating. preliminary attempt to determine mystery album has proven fruitless
	12:07pm Tony Coulter: Ironwort, aka mountain tea and shepherd's tea.
	12:07pm coelacanth∅: greetings Tony and hiss connoisseurs
	12:08pm Tony Coulter: Greets, coel!
	12:08pm spodiodi: i'm reading all about it. i've taken st john's wort before. otherwise i'm wort-ignorant. hi coel!
	🥁 12:10pm Yvang: I would have swear it was the X from "Drums and Wires" from this other obscure band from England.
	🥁 12:10pm Yvang: Hi Tony and listeners! Now I am gonna lhissten silently and religiously.
	12:10pm Tony Coulter: This Etat Brut tape certainly provides your daily dose of hiss. The volume level of the music is very low, so I have to crank it way up -- hence, the hiss quotient is expanded.
	12:11pm Tony Coulter: Ahoy, Yvang!
	12:12pm spodiodi: this is rather hissy hi Yvang!
	12:12pm Tony Coulter: Oh, by the way, the Belgian release of this cassette is called "Acier" (as in the French word for steel).
	12:13pm Tony Coulter: And ... the Etat Brut cassette is the blue one on your left.
	12:14pm spodiodi: iron (sideritis tea), steel (acier steel), this show today is metal af!
	12:14pm spodiodi: \m/
	12:15pm Tony Coulter: Ha! Very true!
	🥁 12:19pm WR: Have not had ironwort tea before, unless it was one of many ingredients in a blend herbal tea. Will look to give a try.
	12:21pm Tony Coulter: Hiya, WR! It's a very primitive looking tea. It looks like someone just uprooted a bush, tore it into a few pieces, and tossed it into a bag.
	🥁 12:22pm WR: Jame's comment about donut & tea nudging me to eat the coconut chocolate pastry in the fridge with my 2nd cup of chai this morning.
	12:23pm Tony Coulter: I said (on mic) that I didn't know the identities of Etat Brut's members. Here's what discogs has to say: "Members are (said to be) 2 science teachers, both called Philippe."
	🥁 12:24pm ynod: Thiss hitss the sspot- Hello all !
	12:25pm Tony Coulter: Hey there, ynod!
	12:25pm spodiodi: hi WR! coconut chocolate pastry sounds nice hi ynod! (nice icon)
	🥁 12:26pm WR: I am reminded how little I know of botany and plants when confronted with the sentence: "Sideritis inflorescence is verticillaster"
	🥁 12:28pm WR: Hi spodiodi, like your avatar. Stealing to use for a day when I just want to blend in.
	12:30pm spodiodi: thanks, and steal away, WR! i snagged it from the wfmu user profile page background, and then stretched it into a square (like me). i was at a loss (and maybe going a bit for the blend-in thing as well)
	🥁 12:30pm WR: I chimed in at the end of Matt's show that he should feed his stomach something better than donuts and cookies. People in glass houses...
	12:32pm spodiodi: regardless of the construction materials in your house, one should never throw a perfectly good donut (unless it's into my mouth)
	12:32pm coelacanth∅: hey spodi!
	12:33pm coelacanth∅: hey Yvang
	🥁 12:34pm ynod: Tony- do you indulge in the Voodoo Donuts?
	12:36pm coelacanth∅: ironwort, huh...why do you drink that?
	12:36pm coelacanth∅: (i just looked) ...that's a new one on me
	12:37pm Tony Coulter: @ ynod: I did, for the first couple of years after I moved to Portland -- but I've kicked the habit. Not to shock anyone here with my puritanicalness, but ... I'm off sugar these days. (Though I did indulge in bread pudding a few times this Christmas season.)
	12:40pm Tony Coulter: Guess it's a bit late to be mentioning this, but: today's Tape Hiss will be focused on industrial music of various stripes.
	🥁 12:40pm ynod: Good thing! I'd like to see you stick around as long as possible so I can enjoy your radio show well into my old age. :)
	🥁 12:41pm WR: I just had a couple seconds of silence, is it that way on the recording or random glitch in my connection?
	12:41pm Tony Coulter: A glitch, I think.
	🥁 12:44pm WR: Was quite effective in getting me to refocus on the drone. Will use that effect when I do a remix release of this.
	12:47pm spodiodi: on the sugar thing: i cut out 1/3 of my oatmeal raisins this morning ᕦ( ° ͜ʖ °)ᕤ
	🥁 12:48pm WR: "Musique pour Chambre à Gaz" does mean what one might assume. Ok. Pastry and comment break time over. Back to work. Hopefully listening not interrupted by work calls.
	🥁 12:50pm ynod: Spodiodi- cool lil' cartoony-face there- your device must do things mine cannot.
	🥁 12:51pm ynod: I can't even figure out an umlaut
	12:52pm spodiodi: cheers, WR (i added some detail to my avatar to make it blend in even more ;)
	12:52pm spodiodi: ynod, i just copy and pasted it from here www.lennyfaceguru.com although some of the characters are not supported well here
	🥁 12:53pm ynod: Aha!
	12:58pm spodiodi: nothing like a little totalitarism to get things moving
	1:02pm coelacanth∅: Tony congratulations on your abstinence from refined sugar. it's not puritanical, it's actually reasonable, as opposed to how most people eat. i'm actually as bad as ever with the sugar. i eat 2-3 chocolates almost every day and way too much honey in my tea. it's probably killing me.
	1:04pm coelacanth∅: ynod what's a voodoo doughnut?
	1:05pm coelacanth∅: ...("donut")
	🥁 1:05pm ynod: Local Portland-based donut chain. Nothing supernatural. Nothing natural at all, really!
	1:06pm Tony Coulter: @ coel: Voodoo Donuts is a chain here in Portland. The owner ran for mayor, and they even have their own record label.
	1:07pm spodiodi: i've seen voodoo donuts on some (waste-of-time) tv program a while back, though have never been there
	1:07pm coelacanth∅: ah, Thanks ynod. are they better than what dunkin' donuts has become?
	1:07pm coelacanth∅: ...and Tony
	1:07pm spodiodi: i got the impression they cost way more than dunkin donuts
	1:08pm coelacanth∅: well, if they're edible maybe they're worth it?
	1:08pm spodiodi: (like, for the $8 avocado toast and $50 burger crowd)
	1:09pm spodiodi: and dunkin donuts doesn't have toppings like bacon (and candy bars?)
	🥁 1:09pm ynod: @coel~ Haven't eaten any at all in quite a while, but last time I checked, Dunkie's is a pale shadow of my childhood donut memories.
	1:09pm coelacanth∅: a few months ago my sister and i lamented that her kids will never know how wonderful dunkin' donuts once was. - long time gone. now.
	🥁 1:10pm ynod: I can't believe I ever enjoyed their coffee.
	1:11pm spodiodi: i haven't had a dunkin donut either, in many years
	1:12pm coelacanth∅: i think their coffee was weak (at best) by the time i first tried it, decades ago; but when i was a child the doughnuts were made on premises every morning and they had... 35?... 40? different ones to choose from - none bad.
	1:12pm Tony Coulter: Voodoo Donuts certainly has more indie cred/cachet than Dunkin' Donuts: They've released music by Poison Idea and Dead Moon. www.voodoodoughnutrecordings.com
	1:12pm Tony Coulter: (Which I find comical.)
	🥁 1:13pm ynod: In stark contrast to all this donut-talk, I've been summoned downstairs to enjoy a vegan "beetloaf" for lunch. I'll be back.
	1:14pm coelacanth∅: haha -comical, and kind of cool! although i'm never impressed with overpriced food)
	1:14pm coelacanth∅: beetloaf. i want to try that!
	1:14pm spodiodi: enjoy, ynod (dwight shrute would approve; yesterday, was just thinking about a beet burger that i had a while back for whatever reason)
	1:15pm spodiodi: reminds me of A Christmas Story "Meatloaf, smeatloaf, double-beatloaf. I hate meatloaf."
	1:16pm Mark Williams: My early years were spent in Europe. My mother is from there and my whole life has been a mix of one foot in one culture, one foot in another. But the context provided of being from somewhere else, and having a mother who recognized much about the U.S. that was dysfunctional, gave me an early perspective about, say, diet in the US. The sugar issue alone is so plainly clear for me, but I'm always semi-surprised still to run into intelligent, discerning Americans who cannot outrun their upbringing, as it were.
	1:17pm coelacanth∅: (spodi @114 so would "Alobar" from jitterbug perfume)
	1:18pm Tony Coulter: Hey, Mark!
	1:19pm Tony Coulter: My dentist once commented to me that if sugar was a recent invention, it would be illegal.
	1:20pm Tony Coulter: Processed sugar, I mean. I guess it's been grandfathered in.
	1:21pm spodiodi: i haven't read that, coel. i should put it on the list of books i should read
	1:22pm coelacanth∅: Mark i don't know if the intelligent part applies here, but i do know how profoundly what i consume affects my health. and i'm a "health nut" by american standards. i'm slightly ashamed of my dietary habits.
	1:23pm Tony Coulter: I'm practically a health nazi.
	1:24pm Mark Williams: @coelacantO - i didn't mean to suggest a glaring irony in writing "intelligent people," so I apologize if it came across that way. I guess it was me observing that how one grows up just hugely dominates everything that comes after that. Comfort food, cravings, associations... all of it. And we can't forget portion control. Hey Tony - what about some Portion Control!!
	1:24pm spodiodi: discovered this analogy recently, and can't stop thinking about it " Think of your body like a sugar bowl. If you eat lots of sugar and glucose, the bowl fills up. If you eat more glucose, then it overflows and spills into the blood." www.dietdoctor.com... “Can you get type 2 diabetes again once you’ve reversed it?” by Dr. Jason Fung
	1:25pm coelacanth∅: Tony that's a brilliant observation! i wonder how pasteurized, homogenized, hormone and drug laden cow milk would fair, legally, without the supremely powerful milk lobby and advertising lies...
	1:26pm Mark Williams: These kinds of industrial sounds always remind me of RRRecords.
	1:27pm coelacanth∅: Mark i think i understood you, and never considered being offended!
	1:28pm Tony Coulter: @ Mark: Ah, yes, RRRon Lessard. Have very little Portion Control, somehow -- should probably work on that.
	1:29pm Sem: Coel, I thank you for sending me to wikithingy and the precis of Jitterbug Perfume. Whatever was I doing in the 80s to have missed that book?
	1:31pm coelacanth∅: my favorite Tom Robbins book, and i love Tom Robbins... with occasional reservation!
	1:32pm coelacanth∅: i didn't read it until 10-15 years ago. in fact i never read a novel until about 15 years ago.
	1:39pm Sem: All of a sudden more time on your hands? I've only recently been reading Gravity's Rainbow, which was a late 60s post modern super hit. I've come unstuck in time myself, it seems.
	1:39pm Tony Coulter: My reading habits have been really weird since the pandemic began. I'm mostly only reading mysteries, because they relax me -- and most of them have been by either Donald E. Westlake (aka Richard Stark) or Margaret Millar. I think by now I've read around 30 Westlake books.
	🥁 1:41pm ynod: Back from lunch. More Hiss now.
	1:44pm Tony Coulter: The beets you consumed have made your icon even more purple.
	1:44pm Tony Coulter: (If that qualifies as purple)
	🥁 1:44pm ynod: So it seems!
	🥁 1:45pm ynod: I once read about a study claiming that people who have consumed psychedelics at any point can see further into the violet spectrum than those who have not.
	1:46pm coelacanth∅: Sem no, less time than ever. but i used to only read books for information, or peace. ...reference books about health and sickness, and sometimes history, science, etc... and zen philosophy books.
	1:47pm Tony Coulter: @ ynod: Well ... umm.
	1:47pm coelacanth∅: this voice reminds me of Shooby Taylor!
	🥁 1:49pm ynod: @Tony~ My icon is actually blue. What are you seeing? ;)
	1:49pm Tony Coulter: Ha!
	1:52pm Tony Coulter: The track on now was titled "Sex Recall" when it appeared elsewhere, on a comp.
	1:53pm Sem: This just in from the BBC: "Cassette tape sales are estimated to have doubled this year compared to 2019. The British Phonographic Industry, which represents record labels, projects 157,000 tapes will have been sold in the UK in 2020."
	2:00pm Tony Coulter: Originally, so many artists released music on cassette only because it was the cheapest way to do it. These days I suspect there's a bit of media fetishizing going on when artists/labels opt for cassette -- though, of course, cassette releases are still much cheaper (and faster) to do than vinyl or CDs (but maybe not than CD-Rs?)
	2:04pm Tony Coulter: (Ha! I'm lucky I can correct my typos.)
	2:08pm Tony Coulter: The tape on now is the white one with shades.
	2:11pm spodiodi: B^\|
	🥁 2:20pm ynod: beautiful track.
	2:22pm Little Fyodor: Liked that Dial Me piece!!
	2:24pm Tony Coulter: Lil' Fyo! Heya!!
	2:25pm Tony Coulter: Love the icon.
	2:35pm coelacanth∅: Tony @2.00 if you're doing it at home it's many times less expensive to make a cd release than a cassette. for many years now. cds are ~30¢ each for the best quality ones, cassettes are several dollars each for decent ones. cd/paper printer, $100.
	2:36pm Little Fyodor: Haha, thanks Tony!!
	🥁 2:43pm ynod: @coel~ Do you mean a hundred-dollar unit that both burns and prints onto CD-R's?
	2:50pm coelacanth∅: ynod no that's just the printer. ...i didn't even think about quantity reproduction, since i've never had to. i duplicate 1 cd at a time. a cd burner that duplicates 4-5(?) cds at a time was around $350 a year or 2 ago, if i remember correctly. supposedly a decent one. ... but if you're duplicating cassettes at home, how many can you produce at a time? in my case, 1.
	🥁 2:54pm ynod: Coel~ not exactly major label distribution then. :)
	2:55pm spodiodi: thanks, Tony! Happy New Year! cheerio all!
	🥁 2:55pm WR: Thank you Tony!
	2:56pm listener James from Westwood: Thanks most kindly for keeping my 2020 Tuesdays on an even keel, and safe travels into 2021!
	2:57pm Tony Coulter: Thanks, everybody! Was great to have you along for 2020. Hope to see you here next year!
	🥁 2:57pm ynod: Many thanks Tony.Hope to see you all next week/year!
	2:57pm coelacanth∅: haha - not exactly ... an alternative, if you want to burn multiple cds at once is buy multiple external cd burners for ~20 bucks each and plug them in simultaneously to the source.
	2:58pm coelacanth∅: (still have to print them one-at-a-time)
	2:58pm Sem: Thx, Tony! Lovely Hiss! today. Later, all.
	🥁 2:58pm Yvang: Thanks, Tony!
	2:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Tony!

Tony Coulter: Playlist from December 29, 2020

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