WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from May 29, 2022

Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am hyde: hello!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am DJpeterDE: Top o the Cowell!
	♥ 9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am listener james from westwood: Good Sunday, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am fred: Greetings Jeff, Tatas, and Matoes
	9:01am Listener Gregory: Good morning. Hoping for music to shower by.
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Hi you lovely people, @hyde, @DJpeterDE, @Andrew in Toronto, @listener james from westwood, @fred, @Listener Gregory!
	♥ 9:04am StringOFperils: Hi, Jeff G. Hi, good listeners. Sunny chirpy morning in Toronto.
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am fred: Was it Scott McDowell who had a "Hey Cecil" segment years ago? That was my introduction
	♥ 9:09am Franco Twinkie: Good morning Jeff and everybody.
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StringOFperils! @fred: yes, indeed. Scott is the only other person in the Kenzo accuplaylist era to play Akisakila.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @Franco Twinkie!
	♥ 9:11am Stanley: Crikey, what a moment to tune in!
	♥ 9:13am Jeff Golick: @Stanley! As good as any...
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am Stork: I'm in for the Out!! Welcome back, Jeff!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:15am fred: I did get to see Cecil Taylor once. He was supposed to be joined by Amiri Baraka, but they had a disagreement and performed separately. Someone who worked there told me they were worried they would come to blows
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: @Stork! Thanks so much for the Ra Ra Ra last week. @fred: sounds about right.
	♥ 9:16am Stanley: Hi Jeff. I like the ol' improvised jazz as much as the next man but the poor suffering partner doesn't understand.
	♥ 9:18am StringOFperils: You really had to see Cecil tippy-toe around the concert grand, making weird mewling noises, to understand him.
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am fred: The show was transcendent anyway. Anger could fuel both these guys, in a good way
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am DJpeterDE: Jeff, can you tell us what you know of Pat Thomas: biographical sketch, the scene he comes out of? Either here or on mic later? Not to put you on the spot
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am DJpeterDE: Fred: Baraka and anger, no doubt. Do you think if CT as angry, or “angry art”?
	9:21am Listener Gregory: @fred, the one time I saw him live, he called an intermission and said he had some things “to work out with the band.” That sounded ominous.
	♥ 9:22am Jeff Golick: I know very little of Pat Thomas's biography, alas. I only recently became aware of some of his recent work, via Cafe Oto releases, and the Ahmed group work, and then had that somewhat familiar experience of realizing that Thomas has already had this deep career that I'm only now beginning to understand the outlines of.
	♥ 9:23am Franco Twinkie: Fred, Can you imagine slugging it out just before the curtain goes up? It's happened. Arthur Lee and Jay Donnelan had a fist fight just before Love went on stage. Arthur Lee was a badass, but apparently so was Jay. Needles to say, they didn't go on....then Jay got fired!
	🦀 ♥ 9:23am WR: Hello Jeff, streamers.
	9:23am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All kinds if Hullo !
	🦀 ♥ 9:24am Stork: Avec plaisir, mon frere!
	9:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...*OV HULLO.
	♥ 9:27am StringOFperils: Anno Domini 2022, without these people, piano-tuning would be a dead art. Instead, it remains a viable field that presents new and interesting challenges.
	🦀 ♥ 9:28am doctorjazz in the Berkshires: Here for a bit, then off to Solid Sounds, to catch assorted acts (including the Sun Ra Archestra). Hi Jeff and Outies!
	♥ 9:31am Jeff Golick: Good to see you, @WR, and @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! And @doctorjazz in the Bershires!
	9:32am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...our Mothers all despaired we ended up listening to this sort of thing ...of a Sunday morning even...
	♥ 9:34am Franco Twinkie: RR, last night I didn't mean to be so harsh on Terrence McKenna. As a young tripster he illuminated many things that were beyond my grasp. I was an avid listener when he had a show on KPFK in the long ago. But I became a more critical person as I grew up. And as showboat clown myself, I could see what he was doing - different topic, but the methodology was all to familiar.
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am Listener Gregory: If it is part of your Sunday routine to wash the dishes, I suggest you postpone this for a while. Hola, @doctorj!
	♥ 9:35am StringOFperils: How I was chastised A Sunday morning Aspersions cast Upon me Prayers like knives. Holy shite!
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am fred: @DJpeterDE: I don't think of him as angry, but he seemed to have a temper. Not MES level, but noticeable
	♥ 9:38am Doug Schulkind: Hello! Hello!
	9:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Franco: Think that's healthy & you're astute. @ the end of Marty's comments I posted this but probly too late : Via Psychedelic Salon, I've listened to McKenna expound for hours on a very wide scope of topics - inclusive of course of his favorite themes. What I liked right away is that he seemed to reject any notion of his own Guruhood - or anybody else's, formally @ least. For sure he made a living with his verbal output & its presentation - with all the occupational hazards we know that does involve... There was also a certain kind of Reach Exceeding Grasp that - as someone myself of a certain probing intellect & a certain amount of psychedelic drug use - I recognized with familiarity... That, after all being the task he set himself - to bring as much of the Other Realm back to Earth as he was capable of...
	9:40am abbazabba: Hello Jeff and good people
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: @Doug! @Doug!
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: Yo, @abbazabba.
	9:43am Listener Gregory: I want to see how they get out of this.
	♥ 9:46am Franco Twinkie: I did see it RR, and I thought it concise and well stated....but I was beyond making comments - it happens. Terrence was a psychonaut in the truest sense - he went where others didn't dare go and came back to talk about it! That alone puts him in a very select class of brave human beings.
	♥ 9:48am Jeff Golick: Little more than halfway through, for those keeping track!
	🦀 ♥ 9:48am fred: I think pianos felt Cecil Taylor's presence as an apex predator hovering by
	9:49am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...or, more succinctly perhaps - a first impression was I liked McKenna didn't come off like he had all the answers - but was inviting us to entertain possibilities. & he didn't want to become the next Timmy Leary icon - what have you. Of course, he kind of did anyhow. But he passed as long ago as 2000 - & listening to PsychSalon, the druggy intelligentsia seem to have a good balance of affection, regard & benign critique re Terence. Yerknow - LaoTzu didn't wanna commit to Writing but they made him, as the Mythology goes...
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am WR: I missed your opening announcement Jeff, so I did some web searching for some context of this, particularly because I was worried if the voices I keep hearing are in my head or on the recording. Found this: "In August 2018, musicians Paul Abbott and Seymour Wright (together known as XT) and Pat Thomas took part in a tribute to Cecil Taylor at London’s Cafe Oto, four months after the death of the US pianist. In advance of the performance, the trio looked to Taylor's “attitudes of preparation” to inspire them, and created a piece developed in response to their listening to, and discussion of, Cecil Taylor Unit's Akisakila, recorded in Japan in 1973. The audio resulting from this exercise was then used as a framework for the live performance. “We prepared the piece, transcribing elements,” they explain. “And developed a series of cycles – unit structures – made up of various voices of Cecil’s influences and associates (real and imaginary), and at the end the voice of Cecil himself.” www.thewire.co.uk... The recording of the 2018 concert is now to be released by Swiss label Edition Gamut, housed in a sleeve intended to exhibit the way the group want to remember Taylor's influence. The artwork is built from weaving transcripts of interviews between the musicians and the label, as well as Cecil Taylor and pianist Eric Plaks." Seems the voices are in the recording, this time.
	♥ 9:50am Franco Twinkie: Mythology becomes fact if it's repeated enough.
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am Listener Gregory: @WR, that is exactly what Jeff said, only he did it in rhymed couplets.
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: "the voices are in the recording, this time" <<<--- always good to check
	♥ 9:54am Andrew in Toronto: I`ve got my groove on now.
	9:55am abbazabba: Hahaha LG
	♥ 9:57am StringOFperils: Sooner or later, somebody's gonna make a mistake.
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: That's where I come in, @SOp.
	♥ 9:58am StringOFperils: Hah!
	10:00am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Joking aside - bit of a Marathon performance.
	♥ 10:02am Franco Twinkie: At a certain point, mom always comes into the rumpus room and yells - ENOUGH!
	🦀 ♥ 10:03am Listener Gregory: @SOp, ha! But there are no mistakes, only notes we haven't met yet.
	10:04am chresti - in SF: Morning Jeff and dOuters: cleaning the spesso machine I’ll use to steam oatmilk
	♥ 10:04am Franco Twinkie: Mornin' darlin'
	10:05am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No other way to send Cecil off of course.
	🦀 ♥ 10:06am DJpeterDE: Re the recent CT Town Hall issue… too long for LP or CD… interesting to think of this performance as a marathon conceived in a time when the musicians knew it could be released as download…
	10:07am chresti - in SF: ISO alcohol is the shit for gummy stuff
	🦀 ♥ 10:07am DJpeterDE: Jeff: thanks for the PT rundown, I have followed a similar trajectory of awareness
	♥ 10:07am Jeff Golick: @chresti! Glad to see you oat and about.
	♥ 10:18am Doug Schulkind: Today's Wordle kicked my ass a bit, but COVID didn't. It's just a cold.
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am WR: The bandcamp page for the Pat Thomas & XT release. editiongamut.bandcamp.com... They have the typical "you can get 1 track now" for the pre-release (to be released June 3), but is there to be more than the one 75 minute track?
	10:19am ?: I was espieiclly lucky to have heard Cecil Taylor live several times. One especially memorable event was when he played at Symphony Space a day or two before New Year's Eve in 1979. If you can believe it, Sun Ra Arkestra was also on the bill. My ears are still ringing.
	10:20am WM: That was me about Cecil Taylor and Sun Ra.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am WR: I attended Cecil Taylor performances in person only twice, both solo performances.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am Listener Gregory: Hmm, think they need to work on the ending.
	10:23am chresti - in SF: Morning Franco
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am DJpeterDE: “Oh my gosh” is not something I expected Cecil Taylor to say. I try not to have expectations about CT but inevitably I do
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am WR: Found it interesting how CT did indulge the interviewer. "Across the two LP sides (80 minutes), and four gatefold panels (13,331 words) together they reflect on, and take inspiration from, the late pianist, composer, poet Cecil Taylor."
	10:27am chresti - in SF: Yay patty powers!
	♥ 10:30am solo mon: Good Morning Sunday drivers!
	♥ 10:32am Jeff Golick: @Doug, glad to hear it. @WR: I think that is the whole of the release. @WM: amazing amazing. Hiya. @solo mon!
	10:32am chresti - in SF: Good morning solo driver!
	♥ 10:33am Doug Schulkind: I've had the joy of seeing Cecil perform live several times. The most memorably in a duet with Max Roach.
	10:33am Robm: Hello fellow out listeners
	♥ 10:33am solo mon: Hi chresti! Hi Jeff!
	♥ 10:36am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Robm!
	10:37am Robm: @Chestri morning @Jeff morning
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: I don't know what this means but I'm just going to say it: this sounds "jazzier" to me.
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: I saw Cecil as often as possible, usually at Jeff Jackson's urging. Also caught CT with Max, up at Columbia U. As I recall it, both musicians kept trying to end the long piece, with a final flourish of some kind, but neither would allow the other to have the last word...
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am DJpeterDE: I guess the scalpel etc on the Thomas release are a nod to the CT album cover
	♥ 10:41am Jeff Golick: Yes, @DJpeterDE; I thought that a nice design echo.
	🦀 ♥ 10:42am DJpeterDE: I’m still mulling what “jazzier” might mean
	10:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...rhythmic swing with blue notes ??...
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJpeterDE: Is it the group approach? the Individual musicians? Is it just the date that is “jazzier”?
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am DJpeterDE: REVRAB yeah the blue notes might be it
	♥ 10:44am StringOFperils: It's just the background world leaking through. The atmosphere is different now.
	♥ 10:44am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with Jimmy Lyons.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am WR: Jazzier? I put it to how the Unit swings. Listening to the interplay of Cyrille and Taylor.
	10:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...less dense than the tribute to it for starters...
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am WR: LOL Jeff. I like how our opinions line up.
	♥ 10:46am Jeff Golick: Well, there's really no wrong answer here.
	10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Course he's not eulogizing his own demise ...no more than any artist always is, perhaps...
	10:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The speed & quantity of communication between them is rather amazing.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am Listener Gregory: It's interesting how the original is less raucous than the tribute.
	🦀 ♥ 11:04am DJpeterDE: My wife agrees about the jazzier convo. Actually, she described PT as “band being attacked by insane clown” and CT as “adolescent elephants having vigorous sex” but I am interpreting that as “CT is jazzier”
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am DJpeterDE: Instead of “the date” I should have said “history” — where they are in time
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am WR: 1973, 2018. 45 years.
	🦀 ♥ 11:12am Listener Gregory: This is a pretty good performance, actually.
	♥ 11:13am Jeff Golick: Appreciate that translation work, @DJpeter.
	11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: DJpeerDE: The Disney Cartoon representations... Highly amusing - if Taylor was spared what Stravinsky was not in this manner...
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am hyde: short playlist today.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am DJpeterDE: REV I take it you are going to start a petition to Disney for a free jazz Fantasia and I will be your first signatory
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: Keeping it simple, @hyde.
	11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *djpeTerde - as long as your wife has time for creative consulting here - I think we got a winner...
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am DJpeterDE: REV she says she’s in!
	11:28am WM: @Doug Schulkid; I heard CT with MR too in an outdoor concert at Columbia University.
	♥ 11:28am StringOFperils: You cannot petition the (dark) Lord (Disney).
	11:29am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @DJpeterDE: Can't wait to see this !...
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am Listener Gregory: @DJp, elephants are pregnant for something like 22 months, perhaps the length of this composition. (re: your wife's interpretation)
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am Listener Gregory: Just realized by looking at the playlist again: This is Part 1???
	11:34am WM: @Jeff Golick: That was my experience of the CT/MR at Columbia too. Exausting to listen too. Also amazing that both preformers were into their 70s and yet still had so much energy.
	♥ 11:34am Jeff Golick: It's pretty arbitrary, the part 1 and 2 thing. Just how my files are split, perhaps.
	🦀 ♥ 11:35am Listener Gregory: Could Part 1 have been CD-length?
	🦀 ♥ 11:37am WR: Yes, the full piece is on 2 CDs And after "part 2" there is a short ~8 minute piece which I guess may have been the encore. Are you going to play that Jeff?
	♥ 11:37am Jeff Golick: Yeah, probably so, @LG. I think part 2 was appended to a different CD, which included the solo performances recorded a week later, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am WR: Sorry, was reading discogs wrong, a couple of ~ 7 minutes pieces from a performance, as Jeff wrote, a week later: "track 1 Recorded May 22, 1973 at Koseinenkin Dai-Hall, Tokyo. Tracks 2-5 Recorded May 29, 1973 at Lino Hall, Tokyo." www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Hey everyone, the party continues rocking over at the Stork Club, over here for the next five hours! wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 11:46am Stork: Thanks, Jeff! This show has altered my DNA - too early to say for good or for evil.
	♥ 11:47am Jeff Golick: Will keep an eye on it, @Stork...
	♥ 11:48am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for a great show. I`m still listening!
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: Great, and thanks, @Andrew!
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am Listener Gregory: Now THAT is an ending.
	♥ 11:51am StringOFperils: Aww, what a bunch of quitters.
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am Listener Gregory: You know how sunscreen on your face eventually drips into your eyes, no matter how careful you are? I have apparently decided to cut out the suspense by initially applying sunscreen directly to the eyeball. Ouch!
	11:54am abbazabba: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: @Stork: Speaking of DNA-altering stuff, get the Glen Passaic ready
	♥ 11:56am Doug Schulkind: Thanks, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am listener james from westwood: Danke, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am Listener Gregory: Fantastic show, Jeff! Glad to see a new Miller-Staaf disc too.
	11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:58am StringOFperils: Extraordinary! Thank you for serving that up, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: thanks Jeff! congrats to the first born!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am hyde: thanks!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am fred: Thanks Jeff, this was epic
	11:58am bobob dublon: I gave Lou Reed a Cecil Taylor cassette. he was overjoyed
	♥ 11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am WR: Thank you Jeff.
	♥ 12:06pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug, @ljfw, @LG, @RRN63, @DJpeterDE, @SOp, @hyde, @fred, @bobob dublon (hello!); @coelacanth∅ (hi!); @WR; and one and all.

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May 29, 2022: (Mountains, Oceans, Trees)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:02:25 (Pop-up)
Pat Thomas & XT	"Akisakila" / Attitudes of Preparation (Mountains, Oceans, Trees)	"Akisakila" / Attitudes of Preparation (Mountains, Oceans, Trees)	Edition Gamut	2018/2022	0:07:52 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"				1:22:22 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	Bulu Akisakila Kutala, Part 1	Akisakila - Cecil Taylor Unit in Japan	Trio Records	1973	1:29:36 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor Unit	Bulu Akisakila Kutala, Part 2	Akisakila - Cecil Taylor Unit in Japan	Trio Records	1973	2:30:22 (Pop-up)
Allison Miller & Carmen Staaf	MLW	Nearness	Sunnyside	2022	2:52:24 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975	2:56:08 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am hyde: hello!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am DJpeterDE: Top o the Cowell!
	♥ 9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am listener james from westwood: Good Sunday, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am fred: Greetings Jeff, Tatas, and Matoes
	9:01am Listener Gregory: Good morning. Hoping for music to shower by.
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: Hi you lovely people, @hyde, @DJpeterDE, @Andrew in Toronto, @listener james from westwood, @fred, @Listener Gregory!
	♥ 9:04am StringOFperils: Hi, Jeff G. Hi, good listeners. Sunny chirpy morning in Toronto.
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am fred: Was it Scott McDowell who had a "Hey Cecil" segment years ago? That was my introduction
	♥ 9:09am Franco Twinkie: Good morning Jeff and everybody.
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StringOFperils! @fred: yes, indeed. Scott is the only other person in the Kenzo accuplaylist era to play Akisakila.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @Franco Twinkie!
	♥ 9:11am Stanley: Crikey, what a moment to tune in!
	♥ 9:13am Jeff Golick: @Stanley! As good as any...
	🦀 ♥ 9:14am Stork: I'm in for the Out!! Welcome back, Jeff!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:15am fred: I did get to see Cecil Taylor once. He was supposed to be joined by Amiri Baraka, but they had a disagreement and performed separately. Someone who worked there told me they were worried they would come to blows
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: @Stork! Thanks so much for the Ra Ra Ra last week. @fred: sounds about right.
	♥ 9:16am Stanley: Hi Jeff. I like the ol' improvised jazz as much as the next man but the poor suffering partner doesn't understand.
	♥ 9:18am StringOFperils: You really had to see Cecil tippy-toe around the concert grand, making weird mewling noises, to understand him.
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am fred: The show was transcendent anyway. Anger could fuel both these guys, in a good way
	🦀 ♥ 9:19am DJpeterDE: Jeff, can you tell us what you know of Pat Thomas: biographical sketch, the scene he comes out of? Either here or on mic later? Not to put you on the spot
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am DJpeterDE: Fred: Baraka and anger, no doubt. Do you think if CT as angry, or “angry art”?
	9:21am Listener Gregory: @fred, the one time I saw him live, he called an intermission and said he had some things “to work out with the band.” That sounded ominous.
	♥ 9:22am Jeff Golick: I know very little of Pat Thomas's biography, alas. I only recently became aware of some of his recent work, via Cafe Oto releases, and the Ahmed group work, and then had that somewhat familiar experience of realizing that Thomas has already had this deep career that I'm only now beginning to understand the outlines of.
	♥ 9:23am Franco Twinkie: Fred, Can you imagine slugging it out just before the curtain goes up? It's happened. Arthur Lee and Jay Donnelan had a fist fight just before Love went on stage. Arthur Lee was a badass, but apparently so was Jay. Needles to say, they didn't go on....then Jay got fired!
	🦀 ♥ 9:23am WR: Hello Jeff, streamers.
	9:23am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All kinds if Hullo !
	🦀 ♥ 9:24am Stork: Avec plaisir, mon frere!
	9:25am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...*OV HULLO.
	♥ 9:27am StringOFperils: Anno Domini 2022, without these people, piano-tuning would be a dead art. Instead, it remains a viable field that presents new and interesting challenges.
	🦀 ♥ 9:28am doctorjazz in the Berkshires: Here for a bit, then off to Solid Sounds, to catch assorted acts (including the Sun Ra Archestra). Hi Jeff and Outies!
	♥ 9:31am Jeff Golick: Good to see you, @WR, and @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! And @doctorjazz in the Bershires!
	9:32am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...our Mothers all despaired we ended up listening to this sort of thing ...of a Sunday morning even...
	♥ 9:34am Franco Twinkie: RR, last night I didn't mean to be so harsh on Terrence McKenna. As a young tripster he illuminated many things that were beyond my grasp. I was an avid listener when he had a show on KPFK in the long ago. But I became a more critical person as I grew up. And as showboat clown myself, I could see what he was doing - different topic, but the methodology was all to familiar.
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am Listener Gregory: If it is part of your Sunday routine to wash the dishes, I suggest you postpone this for a while. Hola, @doctorj!
	♥ 9:35am StringOFperils: How I was chastised A Sunday morning Aspersions cast Upon me Prayers like knives. Holy shite!
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am fred: @DJpeterDE: I don't think of him as angry, but he seemed to have a temper. Not MES level, but noticeable
	♥ 9:38am Doug Schulkind: Hello! Hello!
	9:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Franco: Think that's healthy & you're astute. @ the end of Marty's comments I posted this but probly too late : Via Psychedelic Salon, I've listened to McKenna expound for hours on a very wide scope of topics - inclusive of course of his favorite themes. What I liked right away is that he seemed to reject any notion of his own Guruhood - or anybody else's, formally @ least. For sure he made a living with his verbal output & its presentation - with all the occupational hazards we know that does involve... There was also a certain kind of Reach Exceeding Grasp that - as someone myself of a certain probing intellect & a certain amount of psychedelic drug use - I recognized with familiarity... That, after all being the task he set himself - to bring as much of the Other Realm back to Earth as he was capable of...
	9:40am abbazabba: Hello Jeff and good people
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: @Doug! @Doug!
	♥ 9:40am Jeff Golick: Yo, @abbazabba.
	9:43am Listener Gregory: I want to see how they get out of this.
	♥ 9:46am Franco Twinkie: I did see it RR, and I thought it concise and well stated....but I was beyond making comments - it happens. Terrence was a psychonaut in the truest sense - he went where others didn't dare go and came back to talk about it! That alone puts him in a very select class of brave human beings.
	♥ 9:48am Jeff Golick: Little more than halfway through, for those keeping track!
	🦀 ♥ 9:48am fred: I think pianos felt Cecil Taylor's presence as an apex predator hovering by
	9:49am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...or, more succinctly perhaps - a first impression was I liked McKenna didn't come off like he had all the answers - but was inviting us to entertain possibilities. & he didn't want to become the next Timmy Leary icon - what have you. Of course, he kind of did anyhow. But he passed as long ago as 2000 - & listening to PsychSalon, the druggy intelligentsia seem to have a good balance of affection, regard & benign critique re Terence. Yerknow - LaoTzu didn't wanna commit to Writing but they made him, as the Mythology goes...
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am WR: I missed your opening announcement Jeff, so I did some web searching for some context of this, particularly because I was worried if the voices I keep hearing are in my head or on the recording. Found this: "In August 2018, musicians Paul Abbott and Seymour Wright (together known as XT) and Pat Thomas took part in a tribute to Cecil Taylor at London’s Cafe Oto, four months after the death of the US pianist. In advance of the performance, the trio looked to Taylor's “attitudes of preparation” to inspire them, and created a piece developed in response to their listening to, and discussion of, Cecil Taylor Unit's Akisakila, recorded in Japan in 1973. The audio resulting from this exercise was then used as a framework for the live performance. “We prepared the piece, transcribing elements,” they explain. “And developed a series of cycles – unit structures – made up of various voices of Cecil’s influences and associates (real and imaginary), and at the end the voice of Cecil himself.” www.thewire.co.uk... The recording of the 2018 concert is now to be released by Swiss label Edition Gamut, housed in a sleeve intended to exhibit the way the group want to remember Taylor's influence. The artwork is built from weaving transcripts of interviews between the musicians and the label, as well as Cecil Taylor and pianist Eric Plaks." Seems the voices are in the recording, this time.
	♥ 9:50am Franco Twinkie: Mythology becomes fact if it's repeated enough.
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am Listener Gregory: @WR, that is exactly what Jeff said, only he did it in rhymed couplets.
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: "the voices are in the recording, this time" <<<--- always good to check
	♥ 9:54am Andrew in Toronto: I`ve got my groove on now.
	9:55am abbazabba: Hahaha LG
	♥ 9:57am StringOFperils: Sooner or later, somebody's gonna make a mistake.
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: That's where I come in, @SOp.
	♥ 9:58am StringOFperils: Hah!
	10:00am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Joking aside - bit of a Marathon performance.
	♥ 10:02am Franco Twinkie: At a certain point, mom always comes into the rumpus room and yells - ENOUGH!
	🦀 ♥ 10:03am Listener Gregory: @SOp, ha! But there are no mistakes, only notes we haven't met yet.
	10:04am chresti - in SF: Morning Jeff and dOuters: cleaning the spesso machine I’ll use to steam oatmilk
	♥ 10:04am Franco Twinkie: Mornin' darlin'
	10:05am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: No other way to send Cecil off of course.
	🦀 ♥ 10:06am DJpeterDE: Re the recent CT Town Hall issue… too long for LP or CD… interesting to think of this performance as a marathon conceived in a time when the musicians knew it could be released as download…
	10:07am chresti - in SF: ISO alcohol is the shit for gummy stuff
	🦀 ♥ 10:07am DJpeterDE: Jeff: thanks for the PT rundown, I have followed a similar trajectory of awareness
	♥ 10:07am Jeff Golick: @chresti! Glad to see you oat and about.
	♥ 10:18am Doug Schulkind: Today's Wordle kicked my ass a bit, but COVID didn't. It's just a cold.
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am WR: The bandcamp page for the Pat Thomas & XT release. editiongamut.bandcamp.com... They have the typical "you can get 1 track now" for the pre-release (to be released June 3), but is there to be more than the one 75 minute track?
	10:19am ?: I was espieiclly lucky to have heard Cecil Taylor live several times. One especially memorable event was when he played at Symphony Space a day or two before New Year's Eve in 1979. If you can believe it, Sun Ra Arkestra was also on the bill. My ears are still ringing.
	10:20am WM: That was me about Cecil Taylor and Sun Ra.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am WR: I attended Cecil Taylor performances in person only twice, both solo performances.
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am Listener Gregory: Hmm, think they need to work on the ending.
	10:23am chresti - in SF: Morning Franco
	🦀 ♥ 10:23am DJpeterDE: “Oh my gosh” is not something I expected Cecil Taylor to say. I try not to have expectations about CT but inevitably I do
	🦀 ♥ 10:26am WR: Found it interesting how CT did indulge the interviewer. "Across the two LP sides (80 minutes), and four gatefold panels (13,331 words) together they reflect on, and take inspiration from, the late pianist, composer, poet Cecil Taylor."
	10:27am chresti - in SF: Yay patty powers!
	♥ 10:30am solo mon: Good Morning Sunday drivers!
	♥ 10:32am Jeff Golick: @Doug, glad to hear it. @WR: I think that is the whole of the release. @WM: amazing amazing. Hiya. @solo mon!
	10:32am chresti - in SF: Good morning solo driver!
	♥ 10:33am Doug Schulkind: I've had the joy of seeing Cecil perform live several times. The most memorably in a duet with Max Roach.
	10:33am Robm: Hello fellow out listeners
	♥ 10:33am solo mon: Hi chresti! Hi Jeff!
	♥ 10:36am Jeff Golick: Hello, @Robm!
	10:37am Robm: @Chestri morning @Jeff morning
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: I don't know what this means but I'm just going to say it: this sounds "jazzier" to me.
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: I saw Cecil as often as possible, usually at Jeff Jackson's urging. Also caught CT with Max, up at Columbia U. As I recall it, both musicians kept trying to end the long piece, with a final flourish of some kind, but neither would allow the other to have the last word...
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am DJpeterDE: I guess the scalpel etc on the Thomas release are a nod to the CT album cover
	♥ 10:41am Jeff Golick: Yes, @DJpeterDE; I thought that a nice design echo.
	🦀 ♥ 10:42am DJpeterDE: I’m still mulling what “jazzier” might mean
	10:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...rhythmic swing with blue notes ??...
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJpeterDE: Is it the group approach? the Individual musicians? Is it just the date that is “jazzier”?
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am DJpeterDE: REVRAB yeah the blue notes might be it
	♥ 10:44am StringOFperils: It's just the background world leaking through. The atmosphere is different now.
	♥ 10:44am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with Jimmy Lyons.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am WR: Jazzier? I put it to how the Unit swings. Listening to the interplay of Cyrille and Taylor.
	10:45am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...less dense than the tribute to it for starters...
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am WR: LOL Jeff. I like how our opinions line up.
	♥ 10:46am Jeff Golick: Well, there's really no wrong answer here.
	10:47am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Course he's not eulogizing his own demise ...no more than any artist always is, perhaps...
	10:51am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The speed & quantity of communication between them is rather amazing.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am Listener Gregory: It's interesting how the original is less raucous than the tribute.
	🦀 ♥ 11:04am DJpeterDE: My wife agrees about the jazzier convo. Actually, she described PT as “band being attacked by insane clown” and CT as “adolescent elephants having vigorous sex” but I am interpreting that as “CT is jazzier”
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am DJpeterDE: Instead of “the date” I should have said “history” — where they are in time
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am WR: 1973, 2018. 45 years.
	🦀 ♥ 11:12am Listener Gregory: This is a pretty good performance, actually.
	♥ 11:13am Jeff Golick: Appreciate that translation work, @DJpeter.
	11:15am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: DJpeerDE: The Disney Cartoon representations... Highly amusing - if Taylor was spared what Stravinsky was not in this manner...
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am hyde: short playlist today.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am DJpeterDE: REV I take it you are going to start a petition to Disney for a free jazz Fantasia and I will be your first signatory
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: Keeping it simple, @hyde.
	11:21am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *djpeTerde - as long as your wife has time for creative consulting here - I think we got a winner...
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am DJpeterDE: REV she says she’s in!
	11:28am WM: @Doug Schulkid; I heard CT with MR too in an outdoor concert at Columbia University.
	♥ 11:28am StringOFperils: You cannot petition the (dark) Lord (Disney).
	11:29am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @DJpeterDE: Can't wait to see this !...
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am Listener Gregory: @DJp, elephants are pregnant for something like 22 months, perhaps the length of this composition. (re: your wife's interpretation)
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am Listener Gregory: Just realized by looking at the playlist again: This is Part 1???
	11:34am WM: @Jeff Golick: That was my experience of the CT/MR at Columbia too. Exausting to listen too. Also amazing that both preformers were into their 70s and yet still had so much energy.
	♥ 11:34am Jeff Golick: It's pretty arbitrary, the part 1 and 2 thing. Just how my files are split, perhaps.
	🦀 ♥ 11:35am Listener Gregory: Could Part 1 have been CD-length?
	🦀 ♥ 11:37am WR: Yes, the full piece is on 2 CDs And after "part 2" there is a short ~8 minute piece which I guess may have been the encore. Are you going to play that Jeff?
	♥ 11:37am Jeff Golick: Yeah, probably so, @LG. I think part 2 was appended to a different CD, which included the solo performances recorded a week later, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am WR: Sorry, was reading discogs wrong, a couple of ~ 7 minutes pieces from a performance, as Jeff wrote, a week later: "track 1 Recorded May 22, 1973 at Koseinenkin Dai-Hall, Tokyo. Tracks 2-5 Recorded May 29, 1973 at Lino Hall, Tokyo." www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Hey everyone, the party continues rocking over at the Stork Club, over here for the next five hours! wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 11:46am Stork: Thanks, Jeff! This show has altered my DNA - too early to say for good or for evil.
	♥ 11:47am Jeff Golick: Will keep an eye on it, @Stork...
	♥ 11:48am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for a great show. I`m still listening!
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: Great, and thanks, @Andrew!
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am Listener Gregory: Now THAT is an ending.
	♥ 11:51am StringOFperils: Aww, what a bunch of quitters.
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am Listener Gregory: You know how sunscreen on your face eventually drips into your eyes, no matter how careful you are? I have apparently decided to cut out the suspense by initially applying sunscreen directly to the eyeball. Ouch!
	11:54am abbazabba: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: @Stork: Speaking of DNA-altering stuff, get the Glen Passaic ready
	♥ 11:56am Doug Schulkind: Thanks, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am listener james from westwood: Danke, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am Listener Gregory: Fantastic show, Jeff! Glad to see a new Miller-Staaf disc too.
	11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JG ~
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:58am StringOFperils: Extraordinary! Thank you for serving that up, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: thanks Jeff! congrats to the first born!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am hyde: thanks!
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am fred: Thanks Jeff, this was epic
	11:58am bobob dublon: I gave Lou Reed a Cecil Taylor cassette. he was overjoyed
	♥ 11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 11:59am WR: Thank you Jeff.
	♥ 12:06pm Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Doug, @ljfw, @LG, @RRN63, @DJpeterDE, @SOp, @hyde, @fred, @bobob dublon (hello!); @coelacanth∅ (hi!); @WR; and one and all.

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