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September 23, 2014 Options
"I felt I had to play a lot to work it out."
(John Coltrane)
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Artist Selection Album    (Label / Recording date)
Theme Music:
James Brown 
Cold Sweat (pt. 1)   Options b/w Cold Sweat (pt. 2)
(King 1967)

Steve Rowland  Hour #5 of the radio documentary Tell Me How Long Trane's Been Gone   Options
(Artist Owned 2001)
John Coltrane & Alice Coltrane  Lord, Help Me to Be   Options Cosmic Music
(Impulse! 1966)

Closing Theme:
Specks Williams 
We Gave the Drummer Some   Options b/w Specks Blues
(Jax 196?)

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 5:59pm Gary:

Let's work it out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:00pm Jeff Golick:

I'm ready.
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:00pm ndbob:

evening Doug, Gary, Jeff everyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:01pm fleep:

Greetings. Aw yeah.
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:01pm Dean:

Listened to Soultrane a couple nights ago. Wham.
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:02pm Aurélie E:

yeah Coltrane!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:03pm Jeff Golick:

Way to bring us down, Doug.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:03pm Artie:

Love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:04pm Doug Schulkind:

Gary!
Jeff Golick!!
ndbob!!!
fleep!!!!
Dean!!!!!
Aurélie!!!!!!
Artie!!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:05pm Doug Schulkind:

I am not archiving this program because this labor-of-love documentary is available for purchase directly from the producer: www.artistowned.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:06pm Artie:

more specifically: www.artistowned.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:08pm Doug Schulkind:

Thanks for the more direct link, Artie. It is C R A Z Y that this entire documentary is available for only $15. It is one of the best pieces of anything on jazz I've ever heard/read/watched.
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:10pm Aurélie E:

thank u Doug, I dont know John Coltrane very well, just heard the classics but not tht much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:10pm Doug Schulkind:

The phenomenal producer/director of this documentary, Steve Rowland, was generous enough to allow me to offer the complete documentary as a WFMU marathon premium back in 2007. I am forever grateful to him for that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:11pm Doug Schulkind:

Alice Coltrane...gone
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:11pm Dean:

Narrator Harper sounds, ironically, just a bit like Wynton Marsalis.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:11pm Doug Schulkind:

Rashied Ali...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:12pm Doug Schulkind:

If you happened to hear my Abdul Wadud special a few weeks back, I played an hour-long duet between Wadud on cello and the poetry of Michael S. Harper. WORTH checking out of you missed it.
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:13pm Dean:

I heard it. Here's Harper at Berkeley six years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8R7APJ8uM

That I missed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:13pm Doug Schulkind:

@Aurélie E
I am so glad you're tuned in!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:15pm Doug Schulkind:

"A gargling banshee wail."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:15pm Jeff Golick:

Wynton picked his top 7 Trane records (via JALC instagram):
instagram.com...
Typically Wyntonish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Jimmy Oliver...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Baba Olatunji...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Amiri Baraka...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:22pm Doug Schulkind:

Byard Lancaster...gone
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:27pm Diane:

Thanks so much, Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:30pm Doug Schulkind:

Frank Kofsky wrote an infamous book called Black Nationalism and the Revolution in Black Music. It was infamous for pushing an agenda of radicalism on the avant garde that wasn't authentic to the all of the artists' intentions. Kind of the reverse of the more typical white media person softening the stance of black radicalism. Nevertheless, the book was a HUGE influence on me.

Hi and welcome, Diane!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:30pm Doug Schulkind:

Elvin Jones...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:31pm Doug Schulkind:

Dr. Art Davis...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:31pm Jeff Golick:

A heretofore unavailable Coltrane concert recording from late 1966 was released today: www.resonancerecords.org...
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:32pm Aurélie E:

the book looks incredible!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:33pm Doug Schulkind:

It is, quite literally, incredible, Aurélie. But still an important document.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:38pm Doug Schulkind:

Sekou Sundiata...gone
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:39pm Dean:

It appears the Kofsky book was "expanded and revised" as John Coltrane and the Jazz Revolution of the 1960s in 1998. Kofsky published a handful of books, including titles about Harry Truman and Lenny Bruce!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:43pm Doug Schulkind:

@Dean
Wow. I wasn't aware of that. I wonder if Kofsky addresses the criticism he received from many in the black artists' community.

The black nationalism that Kofsky wrote about was real and true, it just wan't as intertwined with the avant garde jazz world as he lead readers to believe. it is fascinating to hear his interviews with Coltrane and others where he is trying to get his subjects to confirm his political agenda. And they gently correct him.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:43pm Jeff Golick:

FWIW, I found Ben Ratliff's recentish book on Trane to be good reading: www.amazon.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:44pm Doug Schulkind:

Steve Lacy...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Tue. 9/23/14 6:45pm Jeff Golick:

I suspect white listeners weren't (aren't?) terribly well positioned -- culturally, socially --- to suss out the difference between "fierceness" and "anger," as was just elucidated.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:46pm Doug Schulkind:

Makanda Ken McIntyre...gone
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:46pm Dean:

A glance at the excerpt from the preface on Amazon suggests Kofsky did address the charges against him.

Back in "the day" (mostly the '80s) Pacifica's station in LA, KFPK, featured a couple shows devoted to black nationalism. Fascinating stuff, among the reasons I subscribed. Shortly, though, new management purged the programming in an effort to turn Pacifica into NPR. I've never forgiven them!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:47pm Doug Schulkind:

Just elucidated indeed, Jeff Golick.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:48pm Doug Schulkind:

Ntozake Shange...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:48pm Gary:

Doug, do you know the time frame when the interviews took place?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:49pm Doug Schulkind:

I grew up listening to WPFW, the Pacifica station in Washington, DC. The staff was mostly black and the radical voices were celebrated, not purged. WPFW was my early introduction to the idea that radio was something you DID and not just listened to. I adored WPFW.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:51pm Doug Schulkind:

George Russell...gone
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:52pm Doug Schulkind:

@Gary
This documentary first aired in summer 2001. The interviews were conducted in the 1-4 years preceding that time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:53pm Gary:

Thanks!
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:57pm ndbob:

excellent show Doug!
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 6:58pm Aurélie E:

merci Doug!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:59pm Gary:

Beautiful, thank you, Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:59pm Doug Schulkind:

We will run a bit long tonight. There are three more minutes of documentary and then I will play a piece of music. Then, KAMINSKY KAMOUTSKY: wfmu.org...
  Tue. 9/23/14 6:59pm Dean:

That Shepp quote -- "He rang Slonimsky out to dry" -- is a hoot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 6:59pm Doug Schulkind:

Jayne Cortez...gone
  Tue. 9/23/14 7:00pm Dean:

Er, "wrang."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:00pm Doug Schulkind:

My PLEASURE, ndbob, Gary, Aurélie and everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:01pm Doug Schulkind:

Rang works, Dean!
  Tue. 9/23/14 7:02pm Diane:

That was fascinating! Really a remarkable piece of history. Thank you, Doug!
  Tue. 9/23/14 7:02pm Dean:

Gotta ring off, bummer. Great show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:06pm Gary:

Bonus track!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:06pm Doug Schulkind:

I can't begin to describe the amount of pleasure it gives me to share this with you.
  Tue. 9/23/14 7:08pm Diane:

Grateful, and the pleasure is entirely mutual.
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 7:10pm Jesse K:

all set here Doug! Thanks for hanging over a little
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:10pm Doug Schulkind:

Hours one through four are packed with revelations. And love.

OK great, Jesse. This track has 2 and half minutes left, then I will play my outro theme and you can take it away...
Avatar Tue. 9/23/14 7:12pm Jesse K:

cool, thanks for the cue Queue
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:13pm Artie:

Interesting. I grew up in the DC suburbs, loved radio since I was wee, and got into listening to WDCU and WPFW along the way. Definitely got me started along the path to listening to good Jazz, Soul and African music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 9/23/14 7:16pm Doug Schulkind:

I never heard WDCU, Artie. For me it was WPFW and WHFS and Georgetown's station before it got take off the air.
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