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Favoriting September 8, 2021: Horses in the Landscape

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Artist Track Album Label Approx. start time
Lee Morgan  Something Like This (Friday, July 10, 1970)   Favoriting The Complete Live at the Lighthouse  Blue Note  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Roberto Juan Rodríguez  El Polaco   Favoriting El Danzon De Moises  Tzadik  0:19:23 (Pop-up)
Alan Shawdjan  Шоджэн Алан   Quarantine Sessions  Ored  0:23:47 (Pop-up)
Kalle Moberg  Fighting the Long Defeat   Favoriting The Tokyo Sessions Volume 2: Twist  Kamo  0:27:32 (Pop-up)
Hear In Now  Requiem For Charlie Haden   Favoriting Not Living In Fear  International Anthem  0:33:27 (Pop-up)
Nathan Salsburg  O You Who Sleep + Psalm 96   Favoriting Psalms  No Quarter  0:36:21 (Pop-up)
Kanye West  Come to Life   Favoriting Donda  G.O.O.D. Music/Def Jam  0:41:08 (Pop-up)
Low  Days Like These   Favoriting HEY WHAT  Sub Pop  0:46:15 (Pop-up)
Roger Eno  Days Like This   Favoriting Little Things Left Behind 1988-1998  All Saints  0:51:22 (Pop-up)
 
Hoavi  Flay   Favoriting Invariant  Peak Oil  1:03:39 (Pop-up)
Area  Bourbon Skies (St. Petersburg Three-Four Blues)   Favoriting Queerifications & Ruins - Collected Remixes By DJ Sprinkles  Mule Musiq  1:10:53 (Pop-up)
Lion Merry  ヴァカボンド ヴァーレスク・蜃気楼を見る・   ドン・キホーテの従者 (Don Quixote’s Squire)  Chū  1:17:43 (Pop-up)
Model Home + Saint Abdullah  24 hours   Favoriting Invasive Inclinations  PTP  1:21:10 (Pop-up)
Ora Clementi  Dialogue Between A Grandmaster Of The Knights Hospitaller And A Genoese Sea-Captain   Favoriting Sylva Sylvarum  Black Truffle  1:24:45 (Pop-up)
Piętnastka  Chabry maki   Favoriting Kambium  Mondoj  1:28:20 (Pop-up)
 
Stuart Chalmers  Air   Favoriting The Heart of Nature  Opal Tapes  1:39:06 (Pop-up)
Josh Medina  Among the Magnolias   Favoriting Drifting Toward the Absolute  Eiderdown  1:45:31 (Pop-up)
Amelia Cuni  Devino Amor   Favoriting Parampara Festival 13.3.1992  Black Truffle  1:51:17 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02pm
doctorjazz:

Hi Sam!
Check in later, quick hi (not interested in Lee Morgan, I guess...)
  10:02pm
Constantly Choking:

Outside by a fire so I won’t be too active on the chat but HELLO Sam and the horseless!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm
Sam Segal:

Doc! Thanks for hipping me to this Lee Morgan set!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm
Sam Segal:

Glad to hear you're keeping warm the old fashioned way, CC!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03pm
doctorjazz:

Spoke too soon...(still much you didn't get to...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04pm
doctorjazz:

8 CD's worth.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04pm
doctorjazz:

Meditation time, will reconnect later...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04pm
Sam Segal:

I know, I've got to get the rest later this week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05pm
doctorjazz:

(Lee's more aggressive live than you'd expect from the Studio stuff...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08pm
Sam Segal:

It seems like he would've continued to go further out, if he'd lived longer. There are some songs on "The Last Session" from 1971 that flirt with some more avant elements.
  10:10pm
Constantly Choking:

Much appreciation for the musical accompaniment Sam!
  10:25pm
rw:

I think I hear my horse
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
zzz:

just signing on, hey to SS and all! nice to hear the roberto rodriguez.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
Sam Segal:

Thanks for recommending it, ZZZ! Such a great recording.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
Sam Segal:

RW! If you hear your horse...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
zzz:

missed the lee morgan lighthouse track. i remember going to the borders book store in middle school and first getting into jazz and my friend and i were intrigued by the big lighthouse box (3 cds?) and lee morgan looking groovy on the cover but us never quite being able to pick it up. same friend recently told me he splurged for the 12 vinyl release
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32pm
zzz:

borders jazz section in the late 90s was pretty decent actually, but then came to nyc for college and could spend hours in tower records, not to mention downtown music gallery and all the others
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35pm
Sam Segal:

I loved the CD section at Borders when I was a kid. Growing up in suburban Minneapolis, I didn't have frequent access to an independent record store until I got into my teens. Although, I don't think I was hip enough for the jazz section in the years I was shopping at Borders.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
zzz:

ooh cool! been wanting to check this out —psalms
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40pm
Sam Segal:

It is a gorgeous record, although this track isn't totally representative of the rest of the album, as this is the only song that includes any English singing. The rest of the songs are all Hebrew.
  10:43pm
Constantly Choking:

Yes Dude
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44pm
Sam Segal:

Haha, CC, I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't hate the new Kanye album.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48pm
Ike:

I don't like Kanye, but I love Low.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49pm
Sam Segal:

Ike! Thank you for being here. I don't begrudge anyone for not liking Kanye. He's "a bit much," to say the least.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52pm
Ike:

How's this Low album? I haven't had a chance to check it out yet. I've heard this song a few times and at first I wasn't sure about it, but now it's really growing on me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
doctorjazz:

Back, missed some interesting stuff, I see.
I liked the Kanye (but his politics will not allow me to admit or support him in any way).
Used to spend hours in Tower Records and J & R Records, at the time the places with the largest catalogs (that I know of).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm
Sam Segal:

I still need to digest the full album a bit more. It seems on first glance like they've taken many of the sonic experimentation and textural weirdness from the previous record and added in some more traditional pop songwriting elements.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56pm
doctorjazz:

You want to hear obsessive? I bought the Lee Morgan Lighthouse LP box, and got the digital version (but that was from a friend)...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
doctorjazz:

Sam-I didn't mention it earlier, but G'mar Chatimah Tova!
  10:58pm
rw:

A little off point, but when I was a kid I would ride my skateboard an extra couple miles to the independent record store because LPs were $3.77 as opposed to $3.99 at the major chain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00pm
doctorjazz:

EJ Korvettes used to have albums for about $3, if I remember correctly, a dollar cheaper if you bought the mono version.
  11:00pm
Constantly Choking:

Double Negative was amazing, can’t wait to hear the new record. Donda was way better than I expected…some tracks will disappear into history but others are total hits. In his total discography I rate it 7th best, just below Kids See Ghosts and just above 808s. Sorry for the tirade, too many beers…okay, back to my fire
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
Ike:

The track title for the Alan Shawjan song seems like it's... just "Alan Shawdjan" in Cyrillic (?!).
  11:05pm
rw:

docjazz, did you go for the stereo or the mono versions?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06pm
Sam Segal:

@Ike, that explains a lot. Unless this is one of those things where the artist names the song after themselves, I think that song might be more appropriately titled: "Track 7."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07pm
Sam Segal:

Same to you, Doc! All good things for you and yours in 5782.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09pm
Sam Segal:

@CC, I like that you give Kids See Ghosts a high rating. I need to revisit that album.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12pm
Sam Segal:

No one should interpret the vocal sample in this track as a message from me to you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12pm
Ike:

BTW, I salute you for not giving into the (presumed) temptation to name this episode "If You Lose Your Horse Paste". Too obvious, right?
  11:12pm
rw:

Pretty interesting conversation, separating the artist from the art. Still not sure exactly where I stand on the matter. I think for me it depends on the situation. I do have a bit of trouble with K. West though and it troubles me a little.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12pm
Sam Segal:

Finally, someone credits me for my subtlety and restraint. Thank you for truly seeing me, Ike.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
coelacanth∅:

hey Sam and all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21pm
Sam Segal:

@RW: The separating art from artist conversation is always interesting. I don't think I have a definitive stance on the matter. It is very situational and context dependent for me. With Kanye, my instinct says that none of his attention-seeking incendiary remarks have resulted in the real world suffering of innocent people, so those misguided stunts don't really distract me from enjoying what I believe to be beautiful, complex art. But I also totally understand if people feel differently.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21pm
doctorjazz:

rw @11:05, I think I mostly went for the stereo versions (this is WAY before the current "mono is better" wave). I was in my early teens, seemed like the hi-tech thing to do.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:22pm
Sam Segal:

Welcome, Coel! Thanks for being horseless tonight!
  11:30pm
rw:

docj, I would have done the same. I took a recording class in Jr. College and the teacher thought stereo was BS. Didn't agree with him at the time and still don't. (though I do understand and appreciate that more thought and effort was put into the mono mixes in the early days). But his point was that with mono you heard the mix as it was intended as opposed to stereo where the mix changes depending on where you sit in the room.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:34pm
doctorjazz:

Liked that Chabri Maki (sounds like a good sushi roll).
  11:35pm
Constantly Choking:

Re the question of separating the artist from the art…I don’t think it’s a matter of a blanket “should one” vs “shouldn’t”, it’s more like “can you?” Like if you can successfully separate the art from a shitty person it probably says something about either you as the consumer or the artist and if you can’t, same. I can listen to Kanye feeling like he is someone who is a mentally ill genius who shouldn’t be looked to for moral instruction, but I could never sit through The Cosby Show again without being HIGHLY disturbed and distracted
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38pm
doctorjazz:

re, audiophiles would agree with that professor-not that mono was superior, but that the "sweet spot" is where you set up your listening chair, properly spaced between the speakers, to do "serious" listening.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38pm
coelacanth∅:

but stereo sounds better, if it's done right. it's the way we hear and mono is not. when a band is before you, playing, it is not emanating sound from a 2-dimentional point.
in olden days mono mixes were usually better because they put more time into them. that doesn't make mono better; that makes those mixes better. (maybe)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38pm
doctorjazz:

I've been banished to headphones...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39pm
Sam Segal:

This is a good headphone track, Doc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41pm
Sam Segal:

I agree with your take, CC.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
coelacanth∅:

a stereo mix certainly can have the same "impact" as a mono mix -if he/she at the controls is good, and chooses that.
can place the lead guitar smack in the middle, have everything spaced slightly differently but still never far apart.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm
doctorjazz:

As Coel said, early mono was the version many bands/engineers payed attention to, early on it was felt stereo was just a gimmick, and the stereo mix was donebecause you had to have one to sell (and, you could charge a dollar more for it). But there are great stereo recordings, bad mono recordings, and I enjoy the sound of the musicians spread out in front of me as well (you so get some front to back separation with mono, but all in that one plane)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44pm
doctorjazz:

This is wonderful through cans!
  11:48pm
rw:

Okay, here's another geeky question that came up at work today. My buddy is finishing his album and trying to decide whether to mix for headphones or speakers. I said speakers because that's the way most people listen, but then he brought up earbuds. I still say speakers. I think he and I are on the same page, but other band members have different ideas...
  11:49pm
rw:

And I just switched to headphones. Nice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49pm
Sam Segal:

I think the answer to that question might depend on the kind of music your buddy's band plays, RW. Are his fans headphone types or speaker types?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50pm
doctorjazz:

Miles Davis was mean as hell to his sidemen, as well as Charlie Parker (who tortured Miles), and Charles Mingus is supposed to have punched his Trombone player, Jimmy Knepper, twice. Still, this personal nastiness differs from artists who do bad things in the world, to some extent.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51pm
coelacanth∅:

rw i'll say i have never given that any thought.
i would say headphones is more often how people listen to music now...the relatively few people who actually *listen* to the music they play.
  11:51pm
rw:

Yeah, that's the question! I'm not sure. I like speakers because they seem more visceral.
  11:53pm
rw:

Plus headphones get taxing for me after a while. Both physically and psychologically.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54pm
doctorjazz:

I'm a speaker guy, though I listen to both (maybe more to headphones, more convenient). But the Spotify world has really gone headphone, speakers are an afterthought to most people (my kids, with a nice stereo at home i let them use, listen to Spotify on their phones, with or without headphones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54pm
coelacanth∅:

...i almost never listen with headphones. i have a big speaker along each of 2 walls. i hear the stereo separation right now quite nicely.
the music i make, i use headphones all the way through; but after the potential final mix i'll lay down and listen to it through the speakers, before saying it's done.
  11:54pm
Constantly Choking:

This track is beautiful. Thanks so much for the show Sam. I hope everyone has a great night ✌️
  11:56pm
rw:

cc, some day we need to hear that music you're making.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56pm
doctorjazz:

Like to fall asleep with in ear headphones and some jazz...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
doctorjazz:

Corpu curious to hear it myself, Coel, have to say...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
coelacanth∅:

...not to contradict myself! (@1151 & @1154) i don't think i'm of the majority.
but, as Sam pointed out (@1149) it depends who's going to be attracted to the music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58pm
doctorjazz:

Just about quitting time, great show, thanks, Sam.
Night all!
  11:58pm
rw:

Yes. Thanks as always Sam S! I'm clapping along!
  11:59pm
rw:

Take care everyone! Nice hanging this evening!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00am
coelacanth∅:

rw Thanks. i'm remixing something presently and when it's ready maybe i'll put a link to my bandcamp site back on my fmu profile
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01am
coelacanth∅:

(and dr.j)

Thanks Sam!
good night everyone
  12:01am
Constantly Choking:

Ah do it Coelacanthe, I’d be interested as well
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