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Artist Track Album Label Approx. start time
Norm Macdonald  The Moth Joke   Favoriting     0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Norm Macdonald  Roast of Bob Saget   Favoriting     0:10:04 (Pop-up)
 
Fingers Inc.  Never No More Lonely   Favoriting Another Side  Jack Trax  0:20:09 (Pop-up)
Big Moses  Brighter Days (ft. Kenny Bobien)   Favoriting Classic House Grooves: Dope Jams, New York City  King Street Sounds  0:25:28 (Pop-up)
Peven Everett  I Can't Believe I Loved Her (Calypso Mix)   Favoriting 12"  Nite Grooves  0:31:15 (Pop-up)
India Jordan  And Groove   Favoriting Watch Out!  Ninja Tune  0:35:24 (Pop-up)
Kenny Larkin  You Are   Favoriting Keys, Strings, Tambourines  Planet E  0:40:35 (Pop-up)
Mr. G  Daily Prayer   Favoriting Up Hill Battle EP  Phoenix G  0:45:05 (Pop-up)
 
D'Angelo and the Vanguard  Another Life   Favoriting Black Messiah  RCA  1:00:41 (Pop-up)
Aaliyah  I Care 4 U   Favoriting Aaliyah  Blackground  1:06:36 (Pop-up)
Aaron-Carl  Everything   Favoriting Uncloseted  Wallshaker  1:11:00 (Pop-up)
Erika de Casier  Busy   Favoriting Sensational  4AD  1:16:20 (Pop-up)
George Riley  Power   Favoriting Interest Rates, A Tape  Self-Released  1:19:58 (Pop-up)
Africanoise  Vaninha   Favoriting 4 de Dezembro  40% Foda / Maneiríssimo  1:23:55 (Pop-up)
Arif Cooper  Good Vybe   Favoriting Now Thing 2  Chrome  1:27:21 (Pop-up)
Slum Village  I Don't Know (ft. Jazzy Jeff)   Favoriting Fantastic Vol. 2  GoodVibe  1:31:06 (Pop-up)
 
Peter Brötzmann Octet  Responsible/For Jan Van De Ven   Favoriting Machine Gun  FMP  1:39:37 (Pop-up)
Martin Scherzinger & Bobby Mitchell  Chopi-Chopin   Favoriting Scherzinger Etudes  New Focus  1:47:37 (Pop-up)
Keith Jarrett  Prelude & Fugue No. 22 in G Minor   Favoriting Dmitri Shostakovich: 24 Preludes And Fugues, Op. 87  ECM  1:52:47 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 10:01pm
Constantly Choking:

Great selection, RIP
Avatar 10:02pm
Constantly Choking:

How goes it Sam/the horseless!
Avatar 10:02pm
northguineahills:

nice, RIP...
Avatar 10:08pm
northguineahills:

i remember seeing that Conan live!
Avatar 10:10pm
Constantly Choking:

I remember Norm saying in an interview that his Bob Saget roast was actually edited after the fact to make it seem like he did better when in fact he actually bombed even harder. He was laughing his ass off when he said this...what a legend
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10pm
doctorjazz:

Hi Sam, Horsemeisters
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11pm
chresti:

Hi Sam and jokers horsing around!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm
Sam Segal:

CC, NGH, Doc, and Chresti! Thanks for being here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm
Sam Segal:

@CC, I can definitely tell this has been edited...a lot of awkward silences shortened...maybe even additional laughs piped in.
Avatar 10:15pm
Constantly Choking:

I remember seeing this on TV and laughing intensely at the strangeness of it. Comedians still reference it all the time. Total classic performance
Avatar 10:17pm
northguineahills:

That pic was taken on Franklin Ave in Brooklyn b/tn Prospect PL & St Marks Ave
Avatar 10:19pm
Constantly Choking:

G’mar Chatima Tova to my Jewish friends
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm
Sam Segal:

Thanks, CC. I am one of your Jewish friends!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
Sam Segal:

@NGH, you still see the occasional vacant lot with overgrown weeds and broken down car in that part of Brooklyn these days.
Avatar 10:28pm
northguineahills:

I remember when I first moved to NYC in 2000, I would constantly see cars on fire on the main road shoulders and vacant lots, I don't think I've seen more then one since 2005.
Avatar 10:29pm
Constantly Choking:

man if anyone's kicking around Brooklyn there's an amazing painting show at Hauser Wirth of Philip Guston's work. I'm trying to get my passport rushed so I can come see it, you'd be wise to take advantage Sam/anyone who lives in New York
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
zzz:

love getting taken to school on dance tracks on this show. always so fun.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33pm
Sam Segal:

ZZZ! Glad you like the dance selections. I feel like I'm still a student when it comes to the vast world of dance music. One of the genres a person can nerd out on to no end.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33pm
zzz:

the chicago footwork stuff from a little while back was a revelation
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34pm
Sam Segal:

Thanks for the tip on the Guston show, CC. I'd love to check it out.
Avatar 10:36pm
northguineahills:

I needed some good house. I've been to many house raves, but my favorite was soulful house at Ft Greene Park, as it was free and people from all walks of life dancing. Junior Vazquez was there plus others.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37pm
Sam Segal:

@CC: I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to visual art, so I wasn't really familiar with Guston until the controversy last year around the exhibition of his work with the Klan imagery. Seems like a positive step that his work is being shown again.
Avatar 10:38pm
northguineahills:

Also, try Qwaito, a South Aftrican genre, sort of like an elcetro version of footwoork.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39pm
Sam Segal:

Right on, NGH. I like Gqom, but I've never heard of Qwaito.
Avatar 10:39pm
Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

That looks like Franklin Ave today
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40pm
doctorjazz:

Kol Nidre, Ve'Asorei, OoShevooei...
Like the way my Cantor sings that (almost went to the live version-had 4 family members here, 3 were OK but one not comfortable with it, so we attended via zoom).
Avatar 10:40pm
northguineahills:

Oh, I also recomend !Gqom (Durban, SA) oh, and Sam beat me) (the exclamation point is for the upper click before hand, linguistically)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41pm
Sam Segal:

Kenzo! The more things change, etc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43pm
Sam Segal:

@Doc: I wish I was catching you deeper into your fast...the loopiness of low blood sugar would've paired well with tonight's selections.
Avatar 10:43pm
Constantly Choking:

@Sam Yeah I believe the Hauser Wirth show is a response to the swath of Museum shows being delayed last year. It's having a huge impact in the painting world, people are really being affected by the exhibition. Really hoping I can get to it....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46pm
Ike:

I'm vaxxed but I'm still feeling extra cautious -- haven't been into Manhattan at all lately, but a visit to the galleries in Chelsea is certainly alluring.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:46pm
WR:

Hi all. CC, thank you for alerting us about Philip Guston. Didn't know his work. Very interesting.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49pm
doctorjazz:

Speaking of attending events live, I got a ticket to see John Zorn/Masada (the latest version) in August in a Sunday Matinee performance at the Village Vanguard. Must be many folks going out-it was announced in the afternoon, I wanted to check at home for conflicts and went on the VV site that night, and there was 1 ticket left (sold out after I bought it). Psyched.
I'm OK with going out in the current "vaccine required" NY mandate (wouldn't be comfortable, say, in Florida or Texas, for that and obviously other reasons...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50pm
Sam Segal:

Ike and WR! Glad to have you both in the Horse's Den.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
zzz:

new masada quartet with julian lage is incredible. saw them on the last vanguard run pre covid and was blown away. was thrilled to see a tzadik release planned for october
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
doctorjazz:

Article on Guston from NY Times last yr...
www.nytimes.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
Sam Segal:

Ah man, that's gonna be a great show, Doc. I think Zorn's actually playing sax in that group too. I should've gotten a ticket.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52pm
zzz:

i saw those 2 matinees announced earlier this week. hesitated for a day and the first was sold out, but was able to get one for the second weekend
Avatar 10:53pm
northguineahills:

@zzz: I love Masada!
Avatar 10:53pm
Constantly Choking:

yeah WR! I'm a Guston obsessive so I'm thrilled that he's receiving so much recognition lately
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm
doctorjazz:

zzz, glad to hear it, Lage is amazing (have great recordings of him with Nels Cline, in duo and in the Nels Cline 4. Have seen him live with the Nels Cline 4 and his own group. Psyched to get to see them (Pretty sure Zorn will play, though he does conduct many Masada units).
I got the last ticket to the 1st Sunday (couldn't get to the 2nd, conflict that day)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 10:54pm
WR:

sounded better sideways.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56pm
doctorjazz:

Some of the best live shows I've been to were at the original Knitting Factory, with the original Masada quartet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
zzz:

zorn plays in this group, interplay with lage reminiscent of his playing w/ dave douglas in original unit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
doctorjazz:

(I procrastinated the last time Masada did a Sunday Matinee at the Vanguard, and all shows sold out before I got tickets)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
doctorjazz:

zzz, I'm already salivating...
  10:59pm
rw:

Hello!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:01pm
WR:

Sam, when you "at least I am having fun" I totally guffawed loudly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm
Sam Segal:

@WR: A guffaw counts as fun, so I guess I'm not alone!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm
Sam Segal:

RW! It's you!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
WR:

doc, what do you mean by the "original masada quartet"? yes I am being lazy...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05pm
doctorjazz:

The original Masada was: John Zorn - alto sax, Dave Douglas - trumpet, Joey Baron - drums, Greg Cohen - bass)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06pm
doctorjazz:

D'Angelo gets the most interesting groove on; it's sort of an "anti-groove", swings in still motion, if I'm making any sense.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06pm
doctorjazz:

Feels much like Marvin Gaye sometimes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07pm
Sam Segal:

I know exactly what you mean, Doc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10pm
doctorjazz:

That quartet, Zorn, Douglas, Cohen, Baron, was crazy good, intense, quite a live show way back then (and put out 10 studio albums, labeled 1-10 in hebrew letters, a few live albums, then dissolved. Douglas has done quite a few fine things on his own, of course).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11pm
zzz:

ever see electric masada? way intense,
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13pm
doctorjazz:

Yup, I did see Electric Masada once, and they were indeed very intense, but I preferred the quartet.
  11:14pm
rw:

I didn't know there was a controversy over the Klan imagery in Guston's paintings. I guess I should get a subscription to the NYTimes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17pm
zzz:

yeah totally different EM like a super heavy shredding jam band with an electric miles flavor, and as for the original, i think zorn supposedly didnt like the comparison but i think really was like ornette coleman’s early quartet meets klezmer/jewish music scales
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Constantly Choking:

RW, The performative fear of Guston's imagery was willfully misguided...the Museums greatly underestimated the public's capacity to understand complicated art and the backlash within the art world has been intense and ceaseless, hence the current show at Hauser & Wirth
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 11:23pm
WR:

Gotta cut out a bit early. Laters all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23pm
doctorjazz:

That's a pretty good description, zzz. I found the diffuse shredding and jamming of Electric Masada a bit unfocused, the quartet just were at peak constantly during the show.

I'm not sure Zorn would mind the comparison-around the same time as that Masada band (maybe a bit before) he had his Spy vs Spy band with Tim Berne, which I also saw, was also intense and tremendous, and was playing Ornette's music. He was obviously very influenced by Ornette)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
doctorjazz:

Fun set, btw Sam, enjoying it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
Sam Segal:

Adios, WR!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm
doctorjazz:

Night, WR!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm
Sam Segal:

Thank you for saying so, Doc.
  11:25pm
rw:

Ah! Thanks, CC. I did a quick bit of research. I do understand why the museums might be worried, but it's cool that Hauser is doing the show. No backlash so far, I'm guessing.
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Constantly Choking:

later WR!
  11:26pm
rw:

WR! Laters.
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Constantly Choking:

None so far, the paintings are too strong and the exploration too genuine ;)
  11:28pm
rw:

CC, nice avatar, by the way.
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Constantly Choking:

RW haha yep! He's my favorite painter and has been since I was a teenager...I could talk about him and his work forever....don't tempt me

This song is so good Sam!
  11:39pm
rw:

Holy cow! Preach it Sam!!
  11:41pm
rw:

How could The Tonight Show be so irresponsible? And why did it take them over half a century?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41pm
doctorjazz:

Sounds line my family...
(my daughter sometimes posts videos with dissonant music playing, videoing her reaction shots, captioned
"Why does my father listen to this?" (in fun, of course)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
Sam Segal:

I think its a testament to just how radical this music was when it came into the world...it remains impossible to incorporate it into the mainstream
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
Sam Segal:

Hahaha, sounds like your daughter could get a gig writing for the Tonight Show, Doc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm
doctorjazz:

True dat-it'll never become mainstream...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm
doctorjazz:

From your mouth, Sam...
Avatar 11:46pm
Constantly Choking:

I find it annoying when folks like Brotzmann make challenging work and then people experience the fact that they are being challenged as an experience of something bad or oblivious. People can be so smug while missing a point entirely
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northguineahills:

Sort of like how John Cage performed Water Walk on "I've got a secret" or Frank Zappa played a bicycle on the Steve Allen Show. Both performances garnered a lot of laughter from the audience, but both John and Frank liked to incorporate humor in their works...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48pm
doctorjazz:

Mostly, I don't think most people want to work at music (or movies, or art...). They work all day-entertainment is how these things are perceived, not art for the most part, requiring you put some effort into it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48pm
william b:

Back in my college days I couldn't find a single person interested in seeing Peter Brötzmann, even in the more avant music circles. I ended up driving out solo to Ojai CA to take in his set with an audience of maybe eight other people. Good times in Ojai!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50pm
Sam Segal:

Haha, as a person who has also gone to a Peter Brotzmann show unaccompanied, I can relate, William!
  11:50pm
rw:

william b, I'll go with you next time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51pm
doctorjazz:

My wife sometimes accompanies me to adventurous music, but she'll read a book on her phone if it is too "out". It's easier to go myself usually.
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northguineahills:

I wasn't able to see Peter Brotzmann until I moved to NYC, he never made to FL when I was in into music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53pm
doctorjazz:

Never got to see Brotzmann.
I went to hear BassDrumBone shortly before the pandemic, with my significant other, I loved it, she couldn't wait until it ended.
  11:53pm
rw:

I saw PB once with Keiji Haino not too many years ago. Pretty great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53pm
Sam Segal:

First and only time seeing him was at the Vision Festival with William Parker and Hamid Drake.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54pm
doctorjazz:

Almost quitting time, thanks Sam, loved the show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55pm
william b:

Glad I'm not alone in experiencing this! I was worried it was the potential company keeping people away. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any solo-going stablemates next time around.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55pm
zzz:

brotzmann + keiji haino = whoa
  11:55pm
rw:

And I was sort of kidding about the Tonight Show. Totally understand the joke. (thought I'm sure I wouldn't share in it)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55pm
Sam Segal:

Thanks for being here, Doc!
  11:56pm
rw:

zzz, indeed.
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Constantly Choking:

Great show tonight Sam I really enjoyed it! always nice to bask in interesting music with WFMU folks. Hope you all rest easy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
zzz:

SS: trio of brotzmann and drake/parker- never saw but their release “never too late but always too early” is a fav
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
Sam Segal:

You are kind, CC! Thanks again for the tip on the Guston show. Really going to try to make it. Hope you get to see it too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
zzz:

thx for the show tonight. good yontif!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58pm
doctorjazz:

Jarrett is one I didn't get to see, now too late (I actually went to see him solo years back at the Village Vanguard. Noisy, tourist crowd that night. He started to play, stopped. Waited a few minutes, started again, stopped. Waited a few minutes, played a third time, stopped, got up, left, show over. I understood why he was upset with the noise, but I was really pissed at the show being cancelled from under me (they did refund, he wouldn't go back out), and I never went to see him again. My error...
Avatar 11:58pm
Constantly Choking:

You should Sam! I'm certain it will have an impact. I am doing everything in my power to get there myself
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Constantly Choking:

how heartbreaking that must be for Jarrett, a true shame
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59pm
doctorjazz:

A Git Yontif to you as well, zzz, and any celebrators out there!
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chresti:

Thanks Sam!
  12:00am
rw:

Thanks for the ride Mr. Segal. Sorry I didn't get here earlier. Take care everyone! Nice hanging with y'all.
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