WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 1, 2021

Listener comments!
	🥁 ♥ 10:00pm Gary: Howdy!
	♥ 10:01pm Sam Segal: An apt greeting, Gary!
	♥ 10:01pm TDK60: Hi Sam. I did touch that dial, just to touch it; I wasn't gonna move it. just touch it to make sure it's not too dusty.
	10:02pm headcleaner: these handpainted store signs
	♥ 10:02pm Sam Segal: I appreciate your dial touching transparency, TDK. Just be careful not to let your fingers slip when they're on there.
	🥁 ♥ 10:02pm Ike: Uh oh, do I need to dust all my dials now?
	10:03pm Constantly Choking: whats up good day blessings !
	🥁 ♥ 10:03pm coelacanth∅: aw,horsefeathers, i touched the dial accidentally
	♥ 10:04pm Sam Segal: @Headclear, if you like hand-painted NYC storefront signs, check out the Cevallos Brothers: onlyny.com...
	♥ 10:06pm Sam Segal: Welcome, Ike, CC, and Coel!
	♥ 10:06pm Sam Segal: A dial etiquette symposium might be necessary...
	🥁 ♥ 10:07pm doctorjazz: Hello all, some good horse ridin' music!
	10:08pm headcleaner: @Sam - walking legends in our very midst!
	♥ 10:09pm Sam Segal: Giddy up, Doc!
	🥁 ♥ 10:09pm chresti: Hi Sam and folks at the corral!
	♥ 10:09pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Come on in and sit a spell.
	🥁 ♥ 10:10pm zzz: greetings DJ SS, all!
	10:10pm rw: Good evening! Took this photo a couple days ago: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpqc4ohfe204obx/IMG_4364.jpeg?dl=0
	♥ 10:11pm Sam Segal: rw and zzz, good to see you both!
	♥ 10:11pm Sam Segal: rw, do I have permission to use those words for one of my show titles?
	🥁 ♥ 10:11pm zzz: i’ve been obsessed with the original angola soundtrack, cool to hear something from the ‘sequel’
	10:13pm rw: Sure! You can use the photo too if you want. Looks a little like the images you've been using!
	🥁 ♥ 10:13pm Ike: Oh wow, that Cevallos Bros. link is cool.
	🥁 ♥ 10:15pm chresti: Where's that rw?
	🥁 ♥ 10:15pm coelacanth∅: i considered being a longhaul trucker, but i don't do anything semi
	10:18pm Constantly Choking: friendly tip, if you can't think of anything to say just focus on making aggressive unblinking eye contact
	🥁 ♥ 10:19pm coelacanth∅: and Jimi Hendrix
	10:21pm rw: chresti, Joshua Tree. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/lost-horse-mine Some old friends rented a house out there for the week. Was nice to hang out with everyone for a few days.
	10:21pm Constantly Choking: you'll have to wait until we one day cross paths and fall into a stilted conversation to know if I'm joking or not
	♥ 10:22pm Sam Segal: I look forward to it, CC!
	10:24pm Constantly Choking: as do I! <><>
	🥁 ♥ 10:24pm coelacanth∅: (i's mistaken about Hendrix. got confused between Rebop and Juma)
	♥ 10:28pm Sam Segal: I wish Rebop played with Hendrix. He did also play with Randy Weston, in addition to Can and Traffic.
	🥁 ♥ 10:28pm doctorjazz: I'm the same way, silence in the conversation makes me anxious (and I take the blame for "failing" in the conversation). That strategy of just living with it is something they work in in meditation-my wife has Headspace, which we use every night. He talks about feelings like anxiety, depression, and the strategy is to identify them, get to know them as thoughts that come through your head like many other thoughts, and aren't necessary tethered to any outside reality. If you practice, you can learn to identify them, then not try to deny them, but just be OK acknowledging that the feeling is there, and letting it go. It's the compensation for the feeling, acting on it, or denying it, that gets you in trouble. This actually works fairly well for physical pain. I've been having difficulty with spinal stenosis for the last year, with pretty bad right sided back pain. The Headspace strategy for dealing with it is to look directly at it, not try to change it, just characterize it and be OK with acknowledging it's presence. I think it's really helped me with the pain (I've also been doing physical therapy, so it's hard to say what helped when you do more than one thing at once, but I do think both helped). The strategy/issue is similar with emotional pain, anxiety, etc. When you have a chronic pain, you do things naturally to avoid the pain. This means tensing up those back muscles if you feel it coming on, even when you don't, but make a movement that can sometimes trigger it (like bending with back pain). What happens when you tense is you put extra pressure on the nerves that hurt (the ones you shouldn't hurt at all, hahaha). If you learn to just look at them without trying to do anything about them, just accepting them, characterizing them, they change, usually for the better. End of prolonged pronouncement for today.
	🥁 ♥ 10:31pm zzz: i dig this sei still! stereolab vibes
	🥁 ♥ 10:33pm doctorjazz: What zzz said-having the rare pleasure of listening to the show on stereo speakers, really like this Sei Still (I'll need to go to headphones soon).
	🥁 ♥ 10:34pm doctorjazz: Like this Nouvelle, but have to issue an Intonation Alert!
	🥁 ♥ 10:34pm zzz: people seem to get a lot of good out of Headspace and mindfulness practice in general.
	🥁 ♥ 10:36pm doctorjazz: Been doing it nightly for about a year (and some yoga, stretching, etc), it's a good system (and mindfulness in general is a good thing). Generally, when I drop out of a 10 O Clock show for a while, that's what I'm doing (and will need to do in a few minutes for a bit)
	♥ 10:36pm Sam Segal: Super helpful and well said, Doc. The analogy between mental and physical pain is really clarifying. I've been working on developing a meditation practice over the past 10 months or so, and the naming/recognition of feelings as they pass through my mind is something I've been trying to focus on. I have a minor issue with back pain, and sometimes it flairs up when I am trying to sit up straight during meditation. When that happens, I try to just "sit with" the pain, not trying to push it away. What you said reminded me of that.
	10:37pm Constantly Choking: @Doc I've gone through phases of meditation but my wife has really gotten into it and she describes a lot of the same useful distance from anxiety/pain etc as you do. Thinking I should really make it a bigger part of my life (plus Lynch and Robert Crumb swear by it)
	♥ 10:39pm Sam Segal: I have not tried Headspace, but I've heard great things as well. I like to do guided meditations from an app made by the Plum Village Monastery, which was founded by Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. They have some great, simple 20-minute meditation recordings on there that I really like.
	10:41pm Constantly Choking: downloaded the Plum Village app Sam, let you know if I transcend
	♥ 10:41pm Sam Segal: All credit goes to my girlfriend for getting me into meditation.
	♥ 10:42pm Sam Segal: Prepare for blast-off, CC!
	🥁 ♥ 10:42pm zzz: tara brach also has good guided mindful meditations
	♥ 10:43pm Sam Segal: I've heard good things about hers as well, zzz. Haven't checked them out yet, but I've been meaning to.
	🥁 ♥ 10:48pm doctorjazz: It's even more than just sitting with it in the Headspace section on pain. They actually instruct you to focus on it-where exactly it is (and you likely don't realize it, but it usually moves a bit), the shape, exactly where it is, try to visualize if it's hot/cold, a color for it, then focus your breathing in the area. Doing that removes some of the counterproductive strategies one usually uses for it. I've found this helpful (and spinal stenosis pain can be quite severe and limiting-I used to regularly bike 20+ hilly miles in the local Watchung Reservation; now I can't walk half a block without stopping due to pain). I do find it helpful (of course, it's not always easy to apply these strategies when you're in the outside world, working or such). I only tried one other meditation app aside from Headspace, which my wife didn't like, and Headspace seems to do the trick. But I'm curious, might try the Plum Village version, just to see what differences there are. I find it easier to use the techniques for the physical pain than for the emotional issues they do also try to teach strategies for (these are much more nebulous; in fact, the first 10 episodes or so, they just have you trying to recognize thought and feelings that break in, and just label them thought or feeling, and pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. It takes a bit to catch yourself doing things and using strategies you've been using all your life. You can't focus on them, get familiar with them, and let them go, until you are actually conscious of what you're doing in your head. (oops, excessive pontification alert, did it again)
	♥ 10:53pm Sam Segal: @Doc: The Plum Village app is much less structured than Headspace, I think. Could be a good supplement, if you're ever interested in exploring another approach to mindfulness that's informed by an explicitly Zen Buddhist perspective. The technique of deeply focusing on the pain is really interesting to me. Will have to investigate further.
	🥁 ♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Ok, time to leave for my meditation, back in a bit...
	🥁 ♥ 10:59pm coelacanth∅: Turn Around! you got a standing ovation!
	🥁 ♥ 10:59pm Little Danny: sam sings! that was delightful
	♥ 11:03pm Sam Segal: Haha, sincere gratitude for the positive feedback on my impromptu singing, coel and LD. I didn't really know I was going to do that until I was doing it!
	🥁 ♥ 11:03pm Little Danny: we demand more!
	♥ 11:04pm Sam Segal: I'll try to be off book by next week.
	🥁 ♥ 11:05pm Little Danny: we had alvin lucier over to our house for dinner a few years ago and it was one of the highlights of my life
	🥁 ♥ 11:09pm zzz: nice @LD
	♥ 11:09pm Sam Segal: Wow, that does sound like a profoundly cool experience, LD.
	🥁 ♥ 11:10pm Little Danny: a total sweetheart too
	♥ 11:11pm Kat in Chicago: that's nice to know
	11:12pm Constantly Choking: damn LD his company would make for fascinating conversation
	♥ 11:13pm Sam Segal: Good evening, Kat!
	♥ 11:13pm Kat in Chicago: I forgot how good your show is, Sam. I will make this a more regular stop in future!
	♥ 11:15pm Sam Segal: That is very kind of you to say, Kat! We're happy to have you aboard.
	🥁 ♥ 11:15pm Little Danny: yeah sam as of two weeks ago i stopped doing my local wednesday night community radio shows, stoked i'll be able to catch you live now!
	🥁 ♥ 11:18pm Little Danny: this is lovely
	♥ 11:19pm Sam Segal: Bad news for your community radio listeners, good news for me, LD. It is always nice to have you here.
	🥁 ♥ 11:20pm Little Danny: thank you sam ❤️️
	♥ 11:20pm Sam Segal: I wonder if Lisa Cameron ever plays live in your neck of the woods, LD. I think she's Texas-based?
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm doctorjazz: Aww, damn, missed Sam singing when I went to meditate. I take back ask the positive things I said about it!!!!!!!
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm Little Danny: oh wow i'll look her up! she's new to me
	🥁 ♥ 11:23pm doctorjazz: Is that a bank sampled?
	♥ 11:23pm Sam Segal: Doc, you're making me think a "Sam Sings" marathon premium might not be such a bad idea after all.
	🥁 ♥ 11:24pm doctorjazz: Is that a banjo sampled, should have said...
	♥ 11:24pm Kat in Chicago: I was wondering how to sample a bank :)
	🥁 ♥ 11:25pm doctorjazz: @kat, I believe that's 20 years prison time...
	♥ 11:26pm Sam Segal: Good question, Doc. I think that track was performed with no overdubs on a eurorack modular synthesizer. Not sure if those can sample banjo sounds or not.
	♥ 11:26pm Kat in Chicago: oh dear. I'll find something else to sample then
	11:28pm Constantly Choking: You've covered a lot of ground tonight Sam, and you're still only three fourths through. Really enjoying :)
	🥁 ♥ 11:29pm doctorjazz: Be interesting if he created a track he called "down and sampled" on gear that doesn't sample...
	♥ 11:35pm Sam Segal: Thanks for joining me on the journey across these various musical territories, CC.
	🥁 ♥ 11:45pm doctorjazz: Purty!
	🥁 ♥ 11:51pm zzz: unexpected and lovely jesus maria, love it
	🥁 ♥ 11:52pm doctorjazz: Such a lovely set. Pedal steel, I presume, but doesn't sound very country...
	🥁 ♥ 11:52pm Little Danny: thank you sam!!!
	🥁 ♥ 11:53pm doctorjazz: G'night, Danny! Thanks, Sam!
	♥ 11:53pm Sam Segal: Thanks, everyone for being here! Nice chatting with you as always.
	♥ 11:54pm Sam Segal: @Doc, I think Dave Easley is more of a jazz-oriented pedal steel player. He's played with Brian Blade Fellowship before.
	11:54pm Constantly Choking: Peace to each of you!
	11:54pm Constantly Choking: Thanks Sam!
	🥁 ♥ 11:55pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	♥ 11:56pm Sam Segal: I have one song to play after this one. Might dip my toes into tomorrow for a few minutes. Feel free to stick around if you can!
	🥁 ♥ 11:56pm zzz: thanks @SS!
	🥁 ♥ 11:56pm doctorjazz: The name (Easley) is familiar, but don't know how music. This is lovely!
	12:01am rw: Thank you Sam! Beautiful radio.
	12:01am Constantly Choking: Bridge of Sighs, the depressing sequel to that Tom Hanks movie
	♥ 12:02am Kat in Chicago: Thank you, Sam!
	🥁 ♥ 12:02am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 1, 2021

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Junior Brown	Semi-Crazy (with Red Simpson)	Semi Crazy	MCG/Curb	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Dale Watson	List of Reasons "List of Reasons" by "Dale Watson"	Cheatin' Heart Attack	Hightone	0:04:37 (Pop-up)
Silvestre Montez Y Sus Guantanameros	El Pajarito	Las Guitarras Tropicales	Vampi Soul	0:06:58 (Pop-up)
Quim Manuel O Espirito Santo	Senhor Doutor	Angola Soundtrack 2: Hypnosis, Distortions and Other Sonic Innovations 1969-1978	Analog Africa	0:09:19 (Pop-up)

Anthony 'Reebop' Kwaku Bah	Kwaku's Thing	Anthony 'Reebop' Kwaku Bah	Everland	0:20:41 (Pop-up)
Sei Still	Blumenkriege "Blumenkriege" by "Sei Still"	Sei Still	Fuzz Club	0:27:26 (Pop-up)
Nouvelle	What's the Meaning of You and Me	Baby, Don't Be Too Sweet	Maybe Mars	0:33:11 (Pop-up)
Zach Phillips	Know What? "Know What?" by "Zach Phillips"	Feed a Pigeon, Breed a Rat	La Loi	0:37:57 (Pop-up)
水手葡萄 (The Sailor's Grape)	水手之夢	Single	Red Eyes	0:40:38 (Pop-up)
Elaine Stritch & Original Broadway Cast	The Little Things You Do Together	Company - A Musical Comedy (Original Broadway Cast)	Columbia Masterworks	0:45:23 (Pop-up)
Harry Guardino	Everybody Says Don't	Anyone Can Whistle (Original Broadway Cast)	Columbia Masterworks	0:48:28 (Pop-up)
Patricia Elliott, Victoria Mallory	Every Day A Little Death	A Little Night Music (Original Broadway Cast Album)	Columbia Masterworks	0:50:58 (Pop-up)

The Barton Workshop	Letters "Letters" by "The Barton Workshop"	Alvin Lucier: Wind Shadows	New World	1:02:39 (Pop-up)
Matchess	The Wind "The Wind" by "Matchess"	The Rafter	Monofonus Press	1:09:23 (Pop-up)
Turn On The Sunlight	Whales "Whales" by "Turn On The Sunlight"	Drives to the Beach	Tokonoma	1:12:23 (Pop-up)
Lisa Cameron & Ernesto Diaz-Infante	Sun Psychic	Sol Et Terra	Kendra Steiner Editions	1:16:54 (Pop-up)
Matthew Ryals	down and sampled (take 3)	Voltage Scores	Oxtail	1:21:05 (Pop-up)
Tomutonttu	Jo alkaa niitty tyhjentyä	Hoshi	Kemialliset Ystävät	1:24:58 (Pop-up)

Charles Mingus	The Search (I Can't Get Started)	The Complete 1961-1962 Birdland Broadcasts	RLR	1:33:42 (Pop-up)
Charles Rumback	Regina "Regina" by "Charles Rumback"	Seven Bridges	Astral Spirits	1:40:12 (Pop-up)
Jusell, Prymek, Sage, Shiroishi	Fuubutsushi	Shiki	cachedmedia	1:43:19 (Pop-up)
Dave Easley	Jesus Maria "Jesus Maria" by "Dave Easley"	Byways of the Moon	Big Ego	1:49:35 (Pop-up)
Tom Russell	Old Heart "Old Heart" by "Tom Russell"	Love and Fear	Hightone	1:58:10 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 ♥ 10:00pm Gary: Howdy!
	♥ 10:01pm Sam Segal: An apt greeting, Gary!
	♥ 10:01pm TDK60: Hi Sam. I did touch that dial, just to touch it; I wasn't gonna move it. just touch it to make sure it's not too dusty.
	10:02pm headcleaner: these handpainted store signs
	♥ 10:02pm Sam Segal: I appreciate your dial touching transparency, TDK. Just be careful not to let your fingers slip when they're on there.
	🥁 ♥ 10:02pm Ike: Uh oh, do I need to dust all my dials now?
	10:03pm Constantly Choking: whats up good day blessings !
	🥁 ♥ 10:03pm coelacanth∅: aw,horsefeathers, i touched the dial accidentally
	♥ 10:04pm Sam Segal: @Headclear, if you like hand-painted NYC storefront signs, check out the Cevallos Brothers: onlyny.com...
	♥ 10:06pm Sam Segal: Welcome, Ike, CC, and Coel!
	♥ 10:06pm Sam Segal: A dial etiquette symposium might be necessary...
	🥁 ♥ 10:07pm doctorjazz: Hello all, some good horse ridin' music!
	10:08pm headcleaner: @Sam - walking legends in our very midst!
	♥ 10:09pm Sam Segal: Giddy up, Doc!
	🥁 ♥ 10:09pm chresti: Hi Sam and folks at the corral!
	♥ 10:09pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Come on in and sit a spell.
	🥁 ♥ 10:10pm zzz: greetings DJ SS, all!
	10:10pm rw: Good evening! Took this photo a couple days ago: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpqc4ohfe204obx/IMG_4364.jpeg?dl=0
	♥ 10:11pm Sam Segal: rw and zzz, good to see you both!
	♥ 10:11pm Sam Segal: rw, do I have permission to use those words for one of my show titles?
	🥁 ♥ 10:11pm zzz: i’ve been obsessed with the original angola soundtrack, cool to hear something from the ‘sequel’
	10:13pm rw: Sure! You can use the photo too if you want. Looks a little like the images you've been using!
	🥁 ♥ 10:13pm Ike: Oh wow, that Cevallos Bros. link is cool.
	🥁 ♥ 10:15pm chresti: Where's that rw?
	🥁 ♥ 10:15pm coelacanth∅: i considered being a longhaul trucker, but i don't do anything semi
	10:18pm Constantly Choking: friendly tip, if you can't think of anything to say just focus on making aggressive unblinking eye contact
	🥁 ♥ 10:19pm coelacanth∅: and Jimi Hendrix
	10:21pm rw: chresti, Joshua Tree. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/lost-horse-mine Some old friends rented a house out there for the week. Was nice to hang out with everyone for a few days.
	10:21pm Constantly Choking: you'll have to wait until we one day cross paths and fall into a stilted conversation to know if I'm joking or not
	♥ 10:22pm Sam Segal: I look forward to it, CC!
	10:24pm Constantly Choking: as do I! <><>
	🥁 ♥ 10:24pm coelacanth∅: (i's mistaken about Hendrix. got confused between Rebop and Juma)
	♥ 10:28pm Sam Segal: I wish Rebop played with Hendrix. He did also play with Randy Weston, in addition to Can and Traffic.
	🥁 ♥ 10:28pm doctorjazz: I'm the same way, silence in the conversation makes me anxious (and I take the blame for "failing" in the conversation). That strategy of just living with it is something they work in in meditation-my wife has Headspace, which we use every night. He talks about feelings like anxiety, depression, and the strategy is to identify them, get to know them as thoughts that come through your head like many other thoughts, and aren't necessary tethered to any outside reality. If you practice, you can learn to identify them, then not try to deny them, but just be OK acknowledging that the feeling is there, and letting it go. It's the compensation for the feeling, acting on it, or denying it, that gets you in trouble. This actually works fairly well for physical pain. I've been having difficulty with spinal stenosis for the last year, with pretty bad right sided back pain. The Headspace strategy for dealing with it is to look directly at it, not try to change it, just characterize it and be OK with acknowledging it's presence. I think it's really helped me with the pain (I've also been doing physical therapy, so it's hard to say what helped when you do more than one thing at once, but I do think both helped). The strategy/issue is similar with emotional pain, anxiety, etc. When you have a chronic pain, you do things naturally to avoid the pain. This means tensing up those back muscles if you feel it coming on, even when you don't, but make a movement that can sometimes trigger it (like bending with back pain). What happens when you tense is you put extra pressure on the nerves that hurt (the ones you shouldn't hurt at all, hahaha). If you learn to just look at them without trying to do anything about them, just accepting them, characterizing them, they change, usually for the better. End of prolonged pronouncement for today.
	🥁 ♥ 10:31pm zzz: i dig this sei still! stereolab vibes
	🥁 ♥ 10:33pm doctorjazz: What zzz said-having the rare pleasure of listening to the show on stereo speakers, really like this Sei Still (I'll need to go to headphones soon).
	🥁 ♥ 10:34pm doctorjazz: Like this Nouvelle, but have to issue an Intonation Alert!
	🥁 ♥ 10:34pm zzz: people seem to get a lot of good out of Headspace and mindfulness practice in general.
	🥁 ♥ 10:36pm doctorjazz: Been doing it nightly for about a year (and some yoga, stretching, etc), it's a good system (and mindfulness in general is a good thing). Generally, when I drop out of a 10 O Clock show for a while, that's what I'm doing (and will need to do in a few minutes for a bit)
	♥ 10:36pm Sam Segal: Super helpful and well said, Doc. The analogy between mental and physical pain is really clarifying. I've been working on developing a meditation practice over the past 10 months or so, and the naming/recognition of feelings as they pass through my mind is something I've been trying to focus on. I have a minor issue with back pain, and sometimes it flairs up when I am trying to sit up straight during meditation. When that happens, I try to just "sit with" the pain, not trying to push it away. What you said reminded me of that.
	10:37pm Constantly Choking: @Doc I've gone through phases of meditation but my wife has really gotten into it and she describes a lot of the same useful distance from anxiety/pain etc as you do. Thinking I should really make it a bigger part of my life (plus Lynch and Robert Crumb swear by it)
	♥ 10:39pm Sam Segal: I have not tried Headspace, but I've heard great things as well. I like to do guided meditations from an app made by the Plum Village Monastery, which was founded by Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. They have some great, simple 20-minute meditation recordings on there that I really like.
	10:41pm Constantly Choking: downloaded the Plum Village app Sam, let you know if I transcend
	♥ 10:41pm Sam Segal: All credit goes to my girlfriend for getting me into meditation.
	♥ 10:42pm Sam Segal: Prepare for blast-off, CC!
	🥁 ♥ 10:42pm zzz: tara brach also has good guided mindful meditations
	♥ 10:43pm Sam Segal: I've heard good things about hers as well, zzz. Haven't checked them out yet, but I've been meaning to.
	🥁 ♥ 10:48pm doctorjazz: It's even more than just sitting with it in the Headspace section on pain. They actually instruct you to focus on it-where exactly it is (and you likely don't realize it, but it usually moves a bit), the shape, exactly where it is, try to visualize if it's hot/cold, a color for it, then focus your breathing in the area. Doing that removes some of the counterproductive strategies one usually uses for it. I've found this helpful (and spinal stenosis pain can be quite severe and limiting-I used to regularly bike 20+ hilly miles in the local Watchung Reservation; now I can't walk half a block without stopping due to pain). I do find it helpful (of course, it's not always easy to apply these strategies when you're in the outside world, working or such). I only tried one other meditation app aside from Headspace, which my wife didn't like, and Headspace seems to do the trick. But I'm curious, might try the Plum Village version, just to see what differences there are. I find it easier to use the techniques for the physical pain than for the emotional issues they do also try to teach strategies for (these are much more nebulous; in fact, the first 10 episodes or so, they just have you trying to recognize thought and feelings that break in, and just label them thought or feeling, and pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. It takes a bit to catch yourself doing things and using strategies you've been using all your life. You can't focus on them, get familiar with them, and let them go, until you are actually conscious of what you're doing in your head. (oops, excessive pontification alert, did it again)
	♥ 10:53pm Sam Segal: @Doc: The Plum Village app is much less structured than Headspace, I think. Could be a good supplement, if you're ever interested in exploring another approach to mindfulness that's informed by an explicitly Zen Buddhist perspective. The technique of deeply focusing on the pain is really interesting to me. Will have to investigate further.
	🥁 ♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Ok, time to leave for my meditation, back in a bit...
	🥁 ♥ 10:59pm coelacanth∅: Turn Around! you got a standing ovation!
	🥁 ♥ 10:59pm Little Danny: sam sings! that was delightful
	♥ 11:03pm Sam Segal: Haha, sincere gratitude for the positive feedback on my impromptu singing, coel and LD. I didn't really know I was going to do that until I was doing it!
	🥁 ♥ 11:03pm Little Danny: we demand more!
	♥ 11:04pm Sam Segal: I'll try to be off book by next week.
	🥁 ♥ 11:05pm Little Danny: we had alvin lucier over to our house for dinner a few years ago and it was one of the highlights of my life
	🥁 ♥ 11:09pm zzz: nice @LD
	♥ 11:09pm Sam Segal: Wow, that does sound like a profoundly cool experience, LD.
	🥁 ♥ 11:10pm Little Danny: a total sweetheart too
	♥ 11:11pm Kat in Chicago: that's nice to know
	11:12pm Constantly Choking: damn LD his company would make for fascinating conversation
	♥ 11:13pm Sam Segal: Good evening, Kat!
	♥ 11:13pm Kat in Chicago: I forgot how good your show is, Sam. I will make this a more regular stop in future!
	♥ 11:15pm Sam Segal: That is very kind of you to say, Kat! We're happy to have you aboard.
	🥁 ♥ 11:15pm Little Danny: yeah sam as of two weeks ago i stopped doing my local wednesday night community radio shows, stoked i'll be able to catch you live now!
	🥁 ♥ 11:18pm Little Danny: this is lovely
	♥ 11:19pm Sam Segal: Bad news for your community radio listeners, good news for me, LD. It is always nice to have you here.
	🥁 ♥ 11:20pm Little Danny: thank you sam ❤️️
	♥ 11:20pm Sam Segal: I wonder if Lisa Cameron ever plays live in your neck of the woods, LD. I think she's Texas-based?
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm doctorjazz: Aww, damn, missed Sam singing when I went to meditate. I take back ask the positive things I said about it!!!!!!!
	🥁 ♥ 11:21pm Little Danny: oh wow i'll look her up! she's new to me
	🥁 ♥ 11:23pm doctorjazz: Is that a bank sampled?
	♥ 11:23pm Sam Segal: Doc, you're making me think a "Sam Sings" marathon premium might not be such a bad idea after all.
	🥁 ♥ 11:24pm doctorjazz: Is that a banjo sampled, should have said...
	♥ 11:24pm Kat in Chicago: I was wondering how to sample a bank :)
	🥁 ♥ 11:25pm doctorjazz: @kat, I believe that's 20 years prison time...
	♥ 11:26pm Sam Segal: Good question, Doc. I think that track was performed with no overdubs on a eurorack modular synthesizer. Not sure if those can sample banjo sounds or not.
	♥ 11:26pm Kat in Chicago: oh dear. I'll find something else to sample then
	11:28pm Constantly Choking: You've covered a lot of ground tonight Sam, and you're still only three fourths through. Really enjoying :)
	🥁 ♥ 11:29pm doctorjazz: Be interesting if he created a track he called "down and sampled" on gear that doesn't sample...
	♥ 11:35pm Sam Segal: Thanks for joining me on the journey across these various musical territories, CC.
	🥁 ♥ 11:45pm doctorjazz: Purty!
	🥁 ♥ 11:51pm zzz: unexpected and lovely jesus maria, love it
	🥁 ♥ 11:52pm doctorjazz: Such a lovely set. Pedal steel, I presume, but doesn't sound very country...
	🥁 ♥ 11:52pm Little Danny: thank you sam!!!
	🥁 ♥ 11:53pm doctorjazz: G'night, Danny! Thanks, Sam!
	♥ 11:53pm Sam Segal: Thanks, everyone for being here! Nice chatting with you as always.
	♥ 11:54pm Sam Segal: @Doc, I think Dave Easley is more of a jazz-oriented pedal steel player. He's played with Brian Blade Fellowship before.
	11:54pm Constantly Choking: Peace to each of you!
	11:54pm Constantly Choking: Thanks Sam!
	🥁 ♥ 11:55pm chresti: Thanks Sam!
	♥ 11:56pm Sam Segal: I have one song to play after this one. Might dip my toes into tomorrow for a few minutes. Feel free to stick around if you can!
	🥁 ♥ 11:56pm zzz: thanks @SS!
	🥁 ♥ 11:56pm doctorjazz: The name (Easley) is familiar, but don't know how music. This is lovely!
	12:01am rw: Thank you Sam! Beautiful radio.
	12:01am Constantly Choking: Bridge of Sighs, the depressing sequel to that Tom Hanks movie
	♥ 12:02am Kat in Chicago: Thank you, Sam!
	🥁 ♥ 12:02am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 1, 2021

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