WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 19, 2022

Listener comments!
	🦇 9:58pm Aitch: Hey Julie and all
	10:00pm Flash Strap: Take it away Julie!
	🦇 10:00pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): JUUUUULIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!
	🦇 10:01pm Aitch: Now with TRiP-O-SCOPE™
	🦇 10:01pm Julie: hey Aitch, thanks Flash! Heya Mx Baba Bee!
	10:01pm C.S.: Hi, everyone. Been a long time away from the comments board.
	10:01pm northguineahills: Julie!
	🦇 10:02pm Julie: yeah I know danny usually has visuals so I picked a cool video if you want something to stare at. Hiya CS & NGH!
	🦇 10:02pm Julie: how ya doin, CS?
	10:03pm C.S.: Busy...tired.
	10:03pm rw: Suzi Quatro! Must be... Dark Thursday Night of the Soul!
	🦇 10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sounds like a theme to a Musical - very RockyHorror or something...
	🦇 10:04pm Julie: well I hope you can relax for a little while now, Cs! Heya RW & Rev Rabbit.. This album in particular has some unusual moments. quite different from the first.
	10:04pm Robm: Hello fellow dark night listeners
	🦇 10:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Ah, the dark flame of the night blue soul!
	🦇 10:05pm Julie: hiya Rob!
	🦇 10:05pm Julie: heya Ken!
	🦇 10:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...enjoying the video...
	10:06pm Robm: Hey julie, can never get enough of your show
	🦇 10:07pm Julie: aww thanks, Rob, that's very kind
	10:07pm C.S.: Thanx, Julie. I've enjoyed all those archives of yours but free time is so scarce nowadays it's sometimes a challenge to find the time.
	🦇 10:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like a high-end version of an iTunes Visualization...
	10:08pm C.S.: Liking the video. I have a friend who does glitch art which is in the same vein.
	10:08pm Robm: @Julie your welcome
	🦇 10:10pm Julie: @CS I have a sunday night show now too maybe you can make one of those!
	🦇 10:11pm Julie: people who can make visuals like those really impress me
	10:11pm rw: The music is nice, I like the visuals, the company is first rate, and my dog has gas.
	🦇 10:12pm Julie: haha oh well...
	🦇 10:13pm Aitch: Rhapsody in pee-ew
	10:13pm rw: Right? Who says you can't have it all?
	🦇 10:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dogs with gas always makes me think of GeorgeCarlin...
	10:13pm C.S.: Yep, Eclectical Banana...but stupid me keps calling it Electrical Banana.
	10:14pm northguineahills: I had no idea Suzi Quatro was recording back in the 70s, I only know her work from the 90s forward....
	🦇 10:14pm Julie: NGH She goes back to the sixties! She was in a band called the Pleasure Seekers
	10:14pm C.S.: Sadly my knowledge of Suzi Quatro was limited to Happy Days.
	🦇 10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah she was all kinds of a GlamStomper !
	10:15pm Robm: @NGH watch a documentary about suzi called suzi q
	🦇 10:15pm Aitch: rockin Susiei Q in 4th grade, 1974 Devilgate Drive
	🦇 10:16pm Aitch: Huuuuge in Australia
	🦇 10:16pm Julie: Happy Days was the first exposure to many Americans, Europe and Japan knew her well though!
	🦇 10:16pm Julie: yes! She plays australia but doesn't come here (SNIFF)
	🦇 10:17pm Julie: oooh those leafy things in the video are purty
	🦇 10:17pm Aitch: Blondie had first #1 in Australia, we love your stuff more than you do
	10:17pm rw: I knew of Suzi before Happy Days for sure, but I'm not sure why. Probably Rodney on the Roq.
	🦇 10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think Suzi should team up with JoanJett ...if there's a stage bigenuff for both of 'em...
	10:18pm StringOFpeHirils: I remember her showing up in my world around the same time as The Runaways.
	🦇 10:18pm Julie: without Suzi there would not be Joan as we know her. That's her idol
	10:18pm Robm: @RRN63 suzi insiped joan jett
	🦇 10:19pm Julie: she even copied her haircut. Alas, she got MUCH more success here than suzi ever did. People weren't ready for Suzi yet, Joan came at the right time I guess.
	🦇 10:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Space - the final frontier' ...sounded like...
	🦇 10:19pm Julie: oh hi String!
	10:19pm rw: Was Joan Jett on TV too?
	10:20pm StringOFpeHirils: Hi Julie. You sure do a lot of radio!
	10:20pm Robm: Also suzie inspired tina wouymoth from the talking heads
	🦇 10:20pm Julie: no but at the right time for MTV
	10:20pm rw: I mean, besides MTV
	10:20pm northguineahills: I've seen Suzi at some small intimate venues, before.....
	10:20pm rw: I mean, besides MTV
	🦇 10:21pm Aitch: Suzi and AC/DC would get played on the same TV shows here at the time. Runaways were a bit later gave all the kids a heart attack
	🦇 10:21pm Julie: I saw the one movie Joan did with Michael J Fox, that was ....interesting. But she wasn't a TV star.
	🦇 10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So maybe they would get along well enuff to play together !...
	🦇 10:21pm Aitch: Mid+ 70's
	🦇 10:21pm Julie: NGH Lucky you! I got to see her one time in London for a BBC radio broadcast. Amazing show. Almost 10 years ago now.
	10:21pm rw: Oops. Sorry, must have hit the button twice.
	10:22pm Robm: @RRN63 why suzi is not in the RRHOF is almost criminal
	🦇 10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HBDs PeteTownshend & JoeyRamone
	🦇 10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: RRHOF is an absurdity - tho the Museum has some good things...
	10:24pm northguineahills: I used to randomly end up in small intimate venues and see artists I wasn't too familiar w/ at the time...
	🦇 10:24pm Julie: it really is, is there stuff actually there?
	10:24pm rw: I do remember it seeming surprisingly progressive to have SQ on Happy Days.
	🦇 10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...more AwardShow bullshit. That's HighSchool crap...
	🦇 10:25pm Julie: I think she told me when I interviewed her she got the part the same day that Elvis (HER idol) died.
	🦇 10:25pm Julie: She even went on a date with Ralph Malph and she wore a dress!
	10:26pm Robm: @RRN63 agree with you there about that, depends on who is kissing jann wenners ass at the time
	🦇 10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Very PeterGabriel this Hitmen seems...
	10:26pm rw: Ha! Nice. That's cool you had a chance to interview her.
	10:27pm rf: Sounds good thanks DJJ! This song is making me need to listen to "The Time Is Now" by Naked Eyes.
	10:27pm Robm: @Julie would love to hear that interview with suzi
	🦇 10:27pm Julie: It's in the archives! Cherie Currie's in there too.
	🦇 10:28pm Julie: although Cherie actually came to FMU, suzi was on the phone.
	🦇 10:28pm Aitch: Saw The Hitmen a couple of times then-ish , working in the bar at the venue
	🦇 10:28pm Julie: we're talking way back...2012, 2013ish?
	🦇 10:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think Todd-o-Phonic had SuziQ as well.
	10:29pm Robm: Will look forward to listening to it then julie
	10:30pm rw: I know it's a tired complaint but it makes me feel old when 2012 is way back.
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: @Aitch that might be the Sydney Hitmen, I think the ones I played were the English ones
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: @rev I had her first :P holy crap there's fireworks outside
	10:30pm StringOFpeHirils: I was listening to Suzi's brother Mike's stuff back in the 70s; it was all about the 'art rock' for me at the time...I liked synths a lot
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: happy thursday the 19th?
	10:31pm Robm: @Julie is it scaring your birds?
	🦇 10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they're for Pete & Joey !...
	10:31pm C.S.: Remember when the year 2000 was a far off and mysterious date?
	🦇 10:32pm Julie: they don't usually react to that, but they're covered right now anyway.
	10:32pm C.S.: I have to say "now" is so overrated.
	10:33pm Robm: @Julie gotcha
	🦇 10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Husky I grew up with did not like fireworx - that's for sure. I love 'em - tho for PTSD people & animals & the environment they're all wrong... They could make quieter ones, far as that goes...
	10:37pm northguineahills: i can hear them....
	10:37pm C.S.: I always liked Jenny Piccolo.
	🦇 10:39pm Julie: she was played by Phil Silvers daughter if I remember right
	🦇 10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There are some really amazing things about 'Now' - but obviously some really messed up things. It's really disappointing to be this old & this far into the 21st Century & have this much Medieval thinking & behavior going on... I think it's simply that Homo sapiens is @ an evolutionary crossroads as all the Visionaries & Social Theorists have long said. I wish I had more faith in our species to step up to the challenges (climate change for instance)...
	🦇 10:41pm Julie: man these graphics are pretty, I made a good choice!
	10:41pm Phillippe Bastille: Juuuuulllllliiiiieeee!
	🦇 10:41pm Julie: Phillippe!
	🦇 10:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: You did ! [websearches] She looks like PhilSilvers !
	10:42pm C.S.: "Now" is also mired in bland mainstream music, bland architecture and for me friends who just aren't really good friends.
	🦇 10:42pm Julie: I remember it was HUGE when they cast her, because she'd just been unseen for years and years. Chuck, however, still missing.
	🦇 10:42pm Julie: CS yeah I can relate to that for sure!
	10:43pm C.S.: Julie...that mic break was so strange without hearing from your friends. Think I will play this in the background the next time: www.youtube.com...
	🦇 10:44pm Julie: yeah radio after 10 in the living room has proved problematic, they get really loud and antsy past their bedtime.
	10:44pm C.S.: Amazing how the little feathered ones have become such a part of your mic breaks.
	🦇 10:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: CS yes - I think our so-called leaders lack vision & quality fundamentally. Terence McKenna has influenced my thinking a lot here...
	🦇 10:45pm Julie: @CS it's funny that you say that, I went back to the station to do shows for a bit and folks were like, we miss the birds!
	10:45pm Robm: @Julie i think chuck is still up the stairs:)
	🦇 10:46pm Julie: fan fiction where Chuck is a prepper agoraphobe, still in that bedroom in Milwaukee
	🦇 10:47pm Julie: you know who's cool? Henry Winkler! I adore him on twitter, seems like a genuinely good guy at least at this point in life
	10:47pm Robm: @Julie ha ha ha Ok guys going to bed
	🦇 10:47pm Aitch: Loving Henry in Barry
	🦇 10:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Late Robm
	🦇 10:48pm Julie: aww night Rob! Yes BARRY is great..haven't started the new season yet.
	10:48pm StringOFpeHirils: Gene Cousineau is a funny character, for sure.
	🦇 10:48pm Aitch: Love him anyway, despite him jumping the shark
	🦇 10:48pm Will the Sound Guy: I've been listening Julie, just came inside from working outside... diggin the tunes
	10:49pm Phillippe Bastille: Henry was great in Arrested Development
	🦇 10:49pm Julie: hiya Will! He may have jumped the shark but at least they never did an episode where they all burst into song
	🦇 10:50pm Julie: sad that a film career eluded him, he was good in one and only and the other one he did
	10:51pm C.S.: Did they ever do an evil twin Fonzie ep? Ha.
	🦇 10:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Mork...
	🦇 10:51pm Julie: I think he IS the evil twin. Should have had identical nerd cousin or something
	🦇 10:52pm Julie: Yes Mork! That was pretty out there
	🦇 10:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The 70s were a pretty awful 'Now' to be a little kid in often enuff tbh.
	🦇 10:53pm Julie: the only bad thing I remember in the 70s was gas lines
	🦇 10:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think maybe we take a lot of social progress for granted.
	10:55pm C.S.: Sesame Street...Sat. Morning cartoons...riding bikes...playing in the woods unafraid of things. Seemed pretty good to me.
	10:56pm StringOFpeHirils: The 70s seem like about three decades to me. So much change. Not nearly as much as the 60s, but close.
	🦇 10:56pm Julie: I was annoyed that disco was long over by the time I was old enough to go out
	🦇 10:57pm Julie: you don't GET social progress when you're a child
	🦇 10:57pm Julie: but dammit the adults of the 70s ruined things because we ended up with AIDS and the war on drugs...
	10:57pm C.S.: I do see a heck of a lot of young people at work with "social anxiety" and it makes me wonder if they are too wired to their phones.
	10:58pm northguineahills: Been awhile since I've listened to this Kendra Smith album.... @Julie: we just did disco parties in the 2000s, myself and plenty others djed some.
	🦇 10:58pm Julie: I had social anxiety since I was a teen because of bullying, no cellphone needed
	10:59pm Dean: All adults ruined things. Don't pick on the '70s.
	🦇 10:59pm Julie: they are doing a roller disco thing at the rink in the park over the summer but damn I'd probably fall and hurt myself
	10:59pm C.S.: But now it's so prevalent among kids who seem okay. Maybe it's a first world problem kind of thing.
	🦇 10:59pm Julie: @Dean good point.
	🦇 11:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Truly a lot of things seem to be going into the toilet right now. Gun murder for instance. Being my age - 58 - Disco seemed like our Depression or WWII. Live venues switched to Disco - there was nothing else on the Radio ever ...yer Dad wanted to be JohnTravolta. The jocks loved it. & it seemed to go on for years & years like it would never end. Sorry - it was absolutely horrible & traumatic. People see it as ironic & cute now. It was a horror & a blight.
	11:00pm katharsis: Hello Julie and those of the dark night
	🦇 11:01pm Julie: hiya katharsis! yeah to the punk rockers who lived through it disco was hell. but to a little kid it seemed pretty cool .
	11:03pm northguineahills: my only exposure to disco at the time was from Sesame Street years after the fact....
	11:04pm dano59: Maybe it was the drugs, RR63
	11:04pm Dean: "to the punk rockers who lived through it disco was hell." I disagree. Our ears were always tuned to new musics, including disco. I wasn't a huge fan, but I got a kick out of hearing the new releases...just not incessantly.
	🦇 11:05pm Julie: I remember going to see Love at first bite and getting obsessed with "I love the night life" and requesting it on a radio station that was like NO we do NOT play disco
	🦇 11:06pm Julie: hiya dano!
	🦇 11:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always say this - all the docs & analyses spin it that Punk was a reaction to Prog. To me - it was a reaction to Disco. Of course that was then & this is now. I see it differently in the present. Primarily - I think Disco was quite different in Urban & NotUrban environments. It was not about Queers, HardDrugUsers or People of Color where I was! Also - Disco had an Arc to it - as most things do. It started as one thing & became commercialized & exploited - & that was mostly what reached us. & by us I mean the friends I smoked dope with in HighSchool in Claremont, NewHampshire - pop. 15,000 north of northeast of nowhere...
	🦇 11:06pm Julie: I think punk was more against the singer songwriter stuff that was happening
	11:07pm dano59: Phones, the unreal communication space lacking nuance and inflection, and the attendant misconstruing and apprehension of texting may lead to the heightened anxiety. I just roll with it because my social anxiety is real.
	11:08pm C.S.: Different version from Broadcast. Never heard it before.
	11:08pm northguineahills: Broadcast!!!!
	11:08pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Darkness! 🍻😎🤙🎶📻🌞🌏🦜🦜🦜🦜
	🦇 11:09pm Julie: it's been great for people (like me) who are shy in real life to use that to communicate. the problem starts when it's preferred to RL communication. Although during covid, it has been essential. Hiya Scott! This is a collection live on BBC stuff, CS
	11:09pm dano59: Punk was a reaction to every bloated rocker sellout from Elvis to Ozzy, I thought - not just to the bland stuff. NO FUTURE
	🦇 11:09pm Julie: it's kinda beautiful isn't it...
	🦇 11:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - or - a reaction to the first huge wave of Rawk becoming an established & truly mass market into the 1970s & becoming diluted. Too much ShowBiz. Which had happened in that bit between Elvis going into the Army & TheBeates arriving in the USA before...
	🦇 11:10pm Julie: By the time I was old enough punk was...hardcore
	11:10pm Dean: I don't think punk was all that reactionary. It was an affirmative expression of true creativity. By punk I mean roughly '76 to '79. The later stuff is not on my radar at all.
	11:10pm C.S.: For me the pandemic cut me off from people even with social media available. But other people in my life made new connections and freinds.
	11:11pm C.S.: That was the first song I ever heard from Broadcast. Still remember it fondly. RIP Trish Keenan
	11:11pm northguineahills: ok, sleeping early, good night!
	🦇 11:12pm Julie: I love punk, Dean, especially that era, but I always like to see what waves grow out of or spurred by
	🦇 11:12pm Julie: nite nite NGH!
	11:12pm northguineahills: ok, that was premature, another 10 mins...
	11:12pm Phillippe Bastille: I remember I was starting to date some woman and she wanted to go to a disco club, and since I thought I might like her I went, and when we got there they were playing Blondie and I was like “what the fuck?”
	11:12pm dano59: Broadcast is always so great. Was listening to their covers of Thirteen recently
	🦇 11:13pm Julie: I'm pretty sure the news about Trish came when I was doing my late night show, Poly Styrene also if I remember right.
	🦇 11:13pm Julie: Blondie's disco song broke them! and then they rapped. They really did it all.
	11:14pm Dean: My point is partly that I don't ever recall punks hating on prog rock or anything else. More likely we embraced it all. Shoot, we were just folks who liked music.
	11:14pm dano59: The pandemic really messed with my usual self- isolationist tendencies somehow.
	11:15pm Scott67: Floyd version!🍻😎🤙
	🦇 11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I posit the term Internetrovert... I've always been a Mediahead - so the gushing firehose of the Interwebz - I love the access. Like right here ! Social Media is a completely new thing for Society tho of course. facebook felt like moving to a new town & standing nekkid in the Square. The ways it connects us powerfully & yet connects us not @ all is quite strange. Like participating in people's mental health crises in real time @ great distances. Medium of course is the Massage...
	🦇 11:16pm Julie: it has been...A LOT. None of us have come out unscathed, anyone who has must have something very wrong
	🦇 11:16pm Julie: I used to play this a LOT then someone emailed and told me to stop
	11:18pm dano59: 1979 was like the linchpin year for all those forms cresting / morphing/ ascendant and fading. Punk to post punk/New Wave-retro pop; post-Pub Rock; the 70s schlock overstaying it’s welcome. Saw Joe Jackson last night. Really brought us all back.
	🦇 11:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Quite ! Pandemic hit - I'm like - it's about Isolation ?! I'm an Introvert ! I got this ! ...Thing about that is - otoh - has been exactly the wrong thing for that condition in some respects. Like - I am too good @ Isolating it has turned out. To be frank.
	🦇 11:19pm Julie: wow Joe! I saw him in...1990 maybe? Whenever Blaze of Glory was out
	11:20pm dano59: Glad I’m not the only one, Julie/RR
	🦇 11:20pm Julie: @Rev I feel like I am too. I really miss being social and yet I probably do better without it than many I know
	11:20pm dano59: ‘89. He did the title track
	🦇 11:20pm Julie: I got very envious of those who do not live alone but then I remember they kinda got stuck with their partners & roomies for 24/7 in many cases
	🦇 11:21pm Julie: That was a great show, just whole album straight through, like a story. I hadn't even heard it before.
	🦇 11:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Aside from just not wanting bloodclots from longterm Covid from some schmuck won't wear a mask out there, of course. Cause ...that.
	🦇 11:22pm Aitch: I've worked from a home office for about 20 years so the Covid isolating was when other people found it was way better that way.
	🦇 11:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: BUT - the mantra : ...BACK to NORMAL.
	11:23pm dano59: I initially thought those couples I knew were lucky to be together for this but I saw at least five friends’/coworkers’ marriages & LTRs fall apart. Ouch.
	🦇 11:23pm Aitch: and there are these marvellous people who'll curate your soundtrack while you're at it
	🦇 11:23pm Julie: yep I saw a couple marriages break up. I also saw people meet AND get married during. I dunno how they did that
	🦇 11:24pm Aitch: My ex hated the home office because it was a bad way to meet people.
	11:24pm dano59: Oh yeah, Blaze of Glory is a novella! I think Laughter & Lust is too. I love JJ
	11:25pm C.S.: I just remember friends calling to wish you a happy birthday. I had friends who had been college radio DJs. I'd just call into their shows and we hit it off and later met in real life. Now I have to pull teeth to get a real life meeting and bribe with with paying for dinner.
	11:25pm rw: Seems like there's always something. I'm not sure what NORMAL should feel like. It all feels weirdly normal to me. That said, it HAS been abnormally trying in so many ways this past few years.
	11:26pm Phillippe Bastille: Pretty much an introvert here too. When we moved here It wasn’t long before Covid, and it was not long after I quit drinking, so my world got totally flipped — in a place where I didn’t know anyone, forced isolation cuz of the Covid, and then when stuff opened up, no liquor to chase away the social anxiety to meet new people. But the fishing’s pretty good
	11:26pm C.S.: Boston also got rid of their trolley buses a few months ago. Sad to see them go. Used to love riding them.
	11:27pm dano59: Vangelis’ Antarctica soundtrack is wonderful. The movie made me cry. He did Gallipoli too?
	11:28pm rw: And I'm with Aitch. Incredibly grateful for all you marvelous people out there.
	🦇 11:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ferinstance - we've been thru that ...& are still essentially no closer to a reasonable Health Care System. It doesn't give one hope for this Society.
	🦇 11:28pm Aitch: Gallipoli was JM Jarre
	11:30pm C.S.: Vangelis did the Bounty I think.
	11:30pm dano59: Jarre … really? I had 2 of his albums.
	🦇 11:31pm Aitch: We've got one, so not like it's not possible RR63. The world doesn't fall down if you look after people's health, quite the contrary. The USA?
	🦇 11:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The USA is too profit driven to be so humane.
	🦇 11:33pm Julie: Covid KILLED ride shares. Which makes it a lot more expensive to get anywhere in the city if you don't wanna be in a crowd.
	🦇 11:33pm Aitch: anyone who tries to mess that up here gets booted
	🦇 11:33pm Julie: @REV you nailed it there.
	🦇 11:34pm Julie: @CS You are in Boston? Why did I think you were in TX
	🦇 11:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which, ironically, is financially utterly unsound.
	11:35pm northguineahills: A lot of people here got Covid in the last few weeks, b/c they did not get vaxxed, and it's not the homeless we serve (I'll let you fill in the blanks).
	11:35pm C.S.: Not sure. My avatar is an old Boston PCC trolley.
	11:35pm northguineahills: so, I'm stuck doing the work of four people the last week....
	11:35pm dano59: Back to punk - my little upstate city was about 2 years behind the curve, we had a couple good punk & new wave bands though. I always wondered where all the people with the spiked hair, safety pins and ripped T-shirts were every other night of the week
	🦇 11:36pm Julie: They are small on my screen I can't always tell what they are until I click them.
	11:36pm C.S.: It's okay, Julie. Most people wouldn't be able to tell it's a Boston trolley car anyway.
	🦇 11:36pm Julie: I like that there are still punks. Like there will always be punks like there will always be hippies.
	🦇 11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I like that about Tars ! Often look like something else @ this scale ...has to be a word for that...
	🦇 11:37pm Julie: UGH NGH that sucks
	11:37pm C.S.: there will always be goths too. I hope.
	🦇 11:37pm Julie: YES!
	11:38pm Phillippe Bastille: Never heard this Robyn Hitchcock before. Love it!
	11:38pm WR: In the midnight hour.
	🦇 11:38pm Julie: I love his originals of course but he does damn good covers. Hiya WR!
	11:38pm dano59: Well Hot Topic survives, so yea go goths
	11:38pm C.S.: A computer generated punk made it into some new commercial for a medicine. Saw it on TV a few weeks ago.
	🦇 11:39pm Julie: no real goth goes to hot topic
	🦇 11:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's PostModernism. Pick & choose anything - but none of it is worth writing your Manifesto about to live or die by - as under Modernism. It's just some pastiche of styles...
	11:39pm katharsis: Yes Playing outside in the woods in the 70’s
	🦇 11:39pm Julie: those are MALL GOTHS whole different breed
	🦇 11:40pm Julie: one thing about joan and her jet black hair she was rocker/punk/goth all at the same time
	11:41pm Dean: I'm not gonna let you get away with it again, RevRab. We are still hardcore modernists, no question. The idea of postmodernism is a distraction.
	11:41pm C.S.: Hmmm. It's an ad for asthma medication: www.tezspire.com
	🦇 11:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...every Bull gets turned into an Ox & assimilated...
	11:41pm dano59: I was being facetious. I’ve been hanging with pagans the last 10 years or so, a little crossover with goth culture
	🦇 11:42pm Julie: Indeed... Inkubus Sukkubus are a pagan goth band
	🦇 11:42pm Julie: I want to hang out with pagans, where can I find them
	11:42pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, and sometimes you get a hippie punk - punk hippie...like myself. Can I get s witness?
	🦇 11:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: How many Purists of any SubGenre does anybody really know ??
	11:42pm Dean: Why does nobody on WFMU play Kommunity FK? You want punk? Goth? Pagan?
	🦇 11:44pm Julie: I thought I had! I think I have some, I will try next week
	11:44pm dano59: Brushwood in Sherman, all the way at the other end of New York. Maybe 7 hours from NYC. Clothing optional. I’ve played Kinks songs at Bardic Circles there.
	🦇 11:44pm Julie: @franco I've always considered myself a hippie goth. the flowers are just black I guess.
	🦇 11:45pm Julie: what is a Bardic Circle? Outside open mic?
	11:46pm dano59: Yes like an open mic - readings from memory, music, spoken word.
	🦇 11:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sometimes call myself Long-Haired Punk. Feel like I'm the Punk among Hippies - & the Hippie when amongst Punks... But I'm so many things besides. & not qualified as much of anything...
	11:47pm katharsis: It’s a goth hippie punk mall freak out
	🦇 11:47pm Julie: oh that sounds fun...wonder if I can find something in dutchess county. @Katharsis that sounds wonderful!
	11:48pm katharsis: Not the bardic circle. I mean generally what I’m feeling like now
	11:48pm C.S.: I'm a.......hmmm. I'll have to get back to you on that one.
	🦇 11:48pm Julie: oh! that's good too!
	11:48pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, all those identifiers were only as good as the pulp paper they were printed on, which looking backwards, wasn't any good at all.
	11:48pm dano59: Man I love Mazzy Star. That’s the only one I have on vinyl.
	11:49pm C.S.: goth friendly? I wear a lot of dark blue.
	🦇 11:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I sure love Black. Enuff to be in danger @ crosswalks.
	🦇 11:50pm Julie: @Franco heya! did you bring twinkies for everyone?
	🦇 11:50pm Julie: there is a guy I follow on twitter called Cocteau Twink and damn that's a great name
	🦇 11:51pm Julie: I recently pinpointed this song as planting little goth seeds in me
	11:51pm northguineahills: I used wear a colorful garb in NYC. Now in FL, I wear blacks and midnight blues....
	🦇 11:51pm Julie: so now everyone knows you're from NYC
	🦇 11:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: When in Rome - do as the Celts do...
	11:52pm Franco Twinkie: Hope Sandoval went to high school a couple of miles from here. I understand she had a very difficult time there. I wonder if she even bothers to call herself anything except a brilliant singer.
	11:52pm dano59: Labels are odious, Franco. Why can’t we just BE?
	11:53pm C.S.: I'm still on the hunt for a Hawaiian shirt that fits in with my goth sensibilities.
	11:53pm northguineahills: Nice, Rev Rabbit jajaja
	11:53pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, organic cherries. I don't eat that other shit.
	11:54pm dano59: Jean Cocteau and the singer Twink? I can see the gig posters now
	11:54pm C.S.: Well, now I have to go to work. Happy World Goth Day...a little early.
	🦇 11:54pm Julie: no, get it Cocteau Twins, Cocteau Twink
	🦇 11:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As Lou said - I got a Rawk'n'Roll heart ...by my definition. Not yours...
	🦇 11:54pm Julie: thanks CS! come by sheena's on sun if you can. Good to see you, take care!
	11:55pm Franco Twinkie: C.S, I use to ride that street car downtown Los Angeles when I was a little kid.
	🦇 11:55pm Aitch: I bought mazzy star so tonight that i might see on a bootleg cassette in Thailand way back then and then played it during a bark-hut tropical holiday. So when I hear it now I think of palm trees
	11:55pm dano59: C.S. I recommend an all-over black dragonflies pattern embroidered onto less black
	11:55pm C.S.: Thanks Julie. Have a good night.
	11:55pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Julie!
	11:56pm northguineahills: thanks, julie!
	11:57pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Julie. Hurry back!
	🦇 11:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Take care.
	🦇 11:58pm Julie: thanks so much everybody!
	11:59pm katharsis: Thank you Julie and all
	11:59pm dano59: Thanks so much Julie… take care
	11:59pm Scott67: Thanks JULIE ✌😎🤙❤
	12:00am rw: Geez that was quick. Thank you Julie! Have a good evening all you marvelous hippie goth punk weirdos!
	🦇 12:00am Julie: it was quick indeed!
	🦇 12:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Julie ~
	12:01am WR: Thank you Julie!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 19, 2022

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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Suzi Quatro	Cat Size "Cat Size" by "Suzi Quatro"	Quatro	Bell Records	1974		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
U.S. Girls	Denise Don't Wait "Denise Don't Wait" by "U.S. Girls"	Heavy Light	4AD	2020		0:05:06 (Pop-up)
Lida Husik & Beaumont Hannant	Starburst 7	Evening At the Grange	Astralwerks	1994		0:09:33 (Pop-up)
Apnoie	Fluorescent "Fluorescent" by "Apnoie"	Fluorescent EP	Cleopatra	2022		0:15:05 (Pop-up)
Gina X Performance	Martyr To Music	Yinglish	Statik Records	1984		0:18:34 (Pop-up)
The Hitmen	Shade In Fade Out "Shade In Fade Out" by "The Hitmen"	Torn Together	Columbia	1981		0:23:26 (Pop-up)
Austra	I'm A Monster "I'm A Monster" by "Austra"	Future Politics	Domino	2017		0:27:54 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Backing Tracks	Substitute (instrumental)					0:32:29 (Pop-up)
Shelleyan Orphan	Shatter "Shatter" by "Shelleyan Orphan"	Century Flower	Rough Trade	1989		0:39:24 (Pop-up)
Noir	The Bells "The Bells" by "Noir"	Live on Dark Night of the Soul	WFMU	2013	12/12/13	0:42:36 (Pop-up)
Velvet Sunset	Summer Night "Summer Night" by "Velvet Sunset"	Summer Night	Velvet Sunset	2021		0:47:23 (Pop-up)
nerdkween	3 Haiku "3 Haiku" by "nerdkween"	Synergy	Stickfigure Records	2008		0:50:16 (Pop-up)
Kendra Smith	Bohemian Zebulon "Bohemian Zebulon" by "Kendra Smith"	Five Ways Of Disappearing	4AD	1995		0:55:46 (Pop-up)
Tin Machine	I Can't Read "I Can't Read" by "Tin Machine"	Tin Machine	EMI USA	1989		0:59:46 (Pop-up)
Sea Oleena	Cold White Sheets/Empty Bed	Sea Oleena	Sea Oleena	2010		1:04:34 (Pop-up)
Broadcast	Come On Let's Go "Come On Let's Go" by "Broadcast"	Maida Vale Sessions	Warp Records	2022	from 3/01/97	1:07:21 (Pop-up)
Esben and the Witch	Marching Song	Violet Cries	Matador	2011		1:10:48 (Pop-up)
Black Fortress of Opium	Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (live)	Live on Dark Night of the Soul	WFMU	2011	11/01/11	1:14:30 (Pop-up)
Elton John	Lady D'Arbanville "Lady D'Arbanville" by "Elton John"	Legendary Covers 69/70	Purple Pyramid	2014		1:21:33 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Vangelis	Chariots of Fire (Titles)					1:25:14 (Pop-up)
Happy Rhodes	Case of Glass "Case of Glass" by "Happy Rhodes"	Rhodes I	Aural Gratification	1986		1:31:29 (Pop-up)
Robyn Hitchcock	The Crystal Ship "The Crystal Ship" by "Robyn Hitchcock"	The Man Upstairs	Yep Roc Records	2014		1:35:08 (Pop-up)
Cocteau Twins	Seekers Who Are Lovers	BBC Sessions	Bella Union Records	1999	Mark Radcliffe, 12 March 1996	1:37:20 (Pop-up)
Mazzy Star	Happy "Happy" by "Mazzy Star"	Among My Swan	Capitol Records	1996		1:41:47 (Pop-up)
The Stargazer Lilies	Let's Kill Time	Alternative Facts: A Shoegaze Resistance Compilation	DKFM Shoegaze	2017		1:45:36 (Pop-up)
Fleetwood Mac	Gold Dust Woman "Gold Dust Woman" by "Fleetwood Mac"	Rumours	Warner Bros. Records	1977		1:49:48 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"					1:54:46 (Pop-up)
Tori Amos	Enjoy the Silence "Enjoy the Silence" by "Tori Amos"	Strange Little Girls	Atlantic	2001		1:58:07 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦇 9:58pm Aitch: Hey Julie and all
	10:00pm Flash Strap: Take it away Julie!
	🦇 10:00pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): JUUUUULIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!
	🦇 10:01pm Aitch: Now with TRiP-O-SCOPE™
	🦇 10:01pm Julie: hey Aitch, thanks Flash! Heya Mx Baba Bee!
	10:01pm C.S.: Hi, everyone. Been a long time away from the comments board.
	10:01pm northguineahills: Julie!
	🦇 10:02pm Julie: yeah I know danny usually has visuals so I picked a cool video if you want something to stare at. Hiya CS & NGH!
	🦇 10:02pm Julie: how ya doin, CS?
	10:03pm C.S.: Busy...tired.
	10:03pm rw: Suzi Quatro! Must be... Dark Thursday Night of the Soul!
	🦇 10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sounds like a theme to a Musical - very RockyHorror or something...
	🦇 10:04pm Julie: well I hope you can relax for a little while now, Cs! Heya RW & Rev Rabbit.. This album in particular has some unusual moments. quite different from the first.
	10:04pm Robm: Hello fellow dark night listeners
	🦇 10:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Ah, the dark flame of the night blue soul!
	🦇 10:05pm Julie: hiya Rob!
	🦇 10:05pm Julie: heya Ken!
	🦇 10:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...enjoying the video...
	10:06pm Robm: Hey julie, can never get enough of your show
	🦇 10:07pm Julie: aww thanks, Rob, that's very kind
	10:07pm C.S.: Thanx, Julie. I've enjoyed all those archives of yours but free time is so scarce nowadays it's sometimes a challenge to find the time.
	🦇 10:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...like a high-end version of an iTunes Visualization...
	10:08pm C.S.: Liking the video. I have a friend who does glitch art which is in the same vein.
	10:08pm Robm: @Julie your welcome
	🦇 10:10pm Julie: @CS I have a sunday night show now too maybe you can make one of those!
	🦇 10:11pm Julie: people who can make visuals like those really impress me
	10:11pm rw: The music is nice, I like the visuals, the company is first rate, and my dog has gas.
	🦇 10:12pm Julie: haha oh well...
	🦇 10:13pm Aitch: Rhapsody in pee-ew
	10:13pm rw: Right? Who says you can't have it all?
	🦇 10:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dogs with gas always makes me think of GeorgeCarlin...
	10:13pm C.S.: Yep, Eclectical Banana...but stupid me keps calling it Electrical Banana.
	10:14pm northguineahills: I had no idea Suzi Quatro was recording back in the 70s, I only know her work from the 90s forward....
	🦇 10:14pm Julie: NGH She goes back to the sixties! She was in a band called the Pleasure Seekers
	10:14pm C.S.: Sadly my knowledge of Suzi Quatro was limited to Happy Days.
	🦇 10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh yeah she was all kinds of a GlamStomper !
	10:15pm Robm: @NGH watch a documentary about suzi called suzi q
	🦇 10:15pm Aitch: rockin Susiei Q in 4th grade, 1974 Devilgate Drive
	🦇 10:16pm Aitch: Huuuuge in Australia
	🦇 10:16pm Julie: Happy Days was the first exposure to many Americans, Europe and Japan knew her well though!
	🦇 10:16pm Julie: yes! She plays australia but doesn't come here (SNIFF)
	🦇 10:17pm Julie: oooh those leafy things in the video are purty
	🦇 10:17pm Aitch: Blondie had first #1 in Australia, we love your stuff more than you do
	10:17pm rw: I knew of Suzi before Happy Days for sure, but I'm not sure why. Probably Rodney on the Roq.
	🦇 10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think Suzi should team up with JoanJett ...if there's a stage bigenuff for both of 'em...
	10:18pm StringOFpeHirils: I remember her showing up in my world around the same time as The Runaways.
	🦇 10:18pm Julie: without Suzi there would not be Joan as we know her. That's her idol
	10:18pm Robm: @RRN63 suzi insiped joan jett
	🦇 10:19pm Julie: she even copied her haircut. Alas, she got MUCH more success here than suzi ever did. People weren't ready for Suzi yet, Joan came at the right time I guess.
	🦇 10:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Space - the final frontier' ...sounded like...
	🦇 10:19pm Julie: oh hi String!
	10:19pm rw: Was Joan Jett on TV too?
	10:20pm StringOFpeHirils: Hi Julie. You sure do a lot of radio!
	10:20pm Robm: Also suzie inspired tina wouymoth from the talking heads
	🦇 10:20pm Julie: no but at the right time for MTV
	10:20pm rw: I mean, besides MTV
	10:20pm northguineahills: I've seen Suzi at some small intimate venues, before.....
	10:20pm rw: I mean, besides MTV
	🦇 10:21pm Aitch: Suzi and AC/DC would get played on the same TV shows here at the time. Runaways were a bit later gave all the kids a heart attack
	🦇 10:21pm Julie: I saw the one movie Joan did with Michael J Fox, that was ....interesting. But she wasn't a TV star.
	🦇 10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So maybe they would get along well enuff to play together !...
	🦇 10:21pm Aitch: Mid+ 70's
	🦇 10:21pm Julie: NGH Lucky you! I got to see her one time in London for a BBC radio broadcast. Amazing show. Almost 10 years ago now.
	10:21pm rw: Oops. Sorry, must have hit the button twice.
	10:22pm Robm: @RRN63 why suzi is not in the RRHOF is almost criminal
	🦇 10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HBDs PeteTownshend & JoeyRamone
	🦇 10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: RRHOF is an absurdity - tho the Museum has some good things...
	10:24pm northguineahills: I used to randomly end up in small intimate venues and see artists I wasn't too familiar w/ at the time...
	🦇 10:24pm Julie: it really is, is there stuff actually there?
	10:24pm rw: I do remember it seeming surprisingly progressive to have SQ on Happy Days.
	🦇 10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...more AwardShow bullshit. That's HighSchool crap...
	🦇 10:25pm Julie: I think she told me when I interviewed her she got the part the same day that Elvis (HER idol) died.
	🦇 10:25pm Julie: She even went on a date with Ralph Malph and she wore a dress!
	10:26pm Robm: @RRN63 agree with you there about that, depends on who is kissing jann wenners ass at the time
	🦇 10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Very PeterGabriel this Hitmen seems...
	10:26pm rw: Ha! Nice. That's cool you had a chance to interview her.
	10:27pm rf: Sounds good thanks DJJ! This song is making me need to listen to "The Time Is Now" by Naked Eyes.
	10:27pm Robm: @Julie would love to hear that interview with suzi
	🦇 10:27pm Julie: It's in the archives! Cherie Currie's in there too.
	🦇 10:28pm Julie: although Cherie actually came to FMU, suzi was on the phone.
	🦇 10:28pm Aitch: Saw The Hitmen a couple of times then-ish , working in the bar at the venue
	🦇 10:28pm Julie: we're talking way back...2012, 2013ish?
	🦇 10:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think Todd-o-Phonic had SuziQ as well.
	10:29pm Robm: Will look forward to listening to it then julie
	10:30pm rw: I know it's a tired complaint but it makes me feel old when 2012 is way back.
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: @Aitch that might be the Sydney Hitmen, I think the ones I played were the English ones
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: @rev I had her first :P holy crap there's fireworks outside
	10:30pm StringOFpeHirils: I was listening to Suzi's brother Mike's stuff back in the 70s; it was all about the 'art rock' for me at the time...I liked synths a lot
	🦇 10:30pm Julie: happy thursday the 19th?
	10:31pm Robm: @Julie is it scaring your birds?
	🦇 10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they're for Pete & Joey !...
	10:31pm C.S.: Remember when the year 2000 was a far off and mysterious date?
	🦇 10:32pm Julie: they don't usually react to that, but they're covered right now anyway.
	10:32pm C.S.: I have to say "now" is so overrated.
	10:33pm Robm: @Julie gotcha
	🦇 10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Husky I grew up with did not like fireworx - that's for sure. I love 'em - tho for PTSD people & animals & the environment they're all wrong... They could make quieter ones, far as that goes...
	10:37pm northguineahills: i can hear them....
	10:37pm C.S.: I always liked Jenny Piccolo.
	🦇 10:39pm Julie: she was played by Phil Silvers daughter if I remember right
	🦇 10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There are some really amazing things about 'Now' - but obviously some really messed up things. It's really disappointing to be this old & this far into the 21st Century & have this much Medieval thinking & behavior going on... I think it's simply that Homo sapiens is @ an evolutionary crossroads as all the Visionaries & Social Theorists have long said. I wish I had more faith in our species to step up to the challenges (climate change for instance)...
	🦇 10:41pm Julie: man these graphics are pretty, I made a good choice!
	10:41pm Phillippe Bastille: Juuuuulllllliiiiieeee!
	🦇 10:41pm Julie: Phillippe!
	🦇 10:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: You did ! [websearches] She looks like PhilSilvers !
	10:42pm C.S.: "Now" is also mired in bland mainstream music, bland architecture and for me friends who just aren't really good friends.
	🦇 10:42pm Julie: I remember it was HUGE when they cast her, because she'd just been unseen for years and years. Chuck, however, still missing.
	🦇 10:42pm Julie: CS yeah I can relate to that for sure!
	10:43pm C.S.: Julie...that mic break was so strange without hearing from your friends. Think I will play this in the background the next time: www.youtube.com...
	🦇 10:44pm Julie: yeah radio after 10 in the living room has proved problematic, they get really loud and antsy past their bedtime.
	10:44pm C.S.: Amazing how the little feathered ones have become such a part of your mic breaks.
	🦇 10:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: CS yes - I think our so-called leaders lack vision & quality fundamentally. Terence McKenna has influenced my thinking a lot here...
	🦇 10:45pm Julie: @CS it's funny that you say that, I went back to the station to do shows for a bit and folks were like, we miss the birds!
	10:45pm Robm: @Julie i think chuck is still up the stairs:)
	🦇 10:46pm Julie: fan fiction where Chuck is a prepper agoraphobe, still in that bedroom in Milwaukee
	🦇 10:47pm Julie: you know who's cool? Henry Winkler! I adore him on twitter, seems like a genuinely good guy at least at this point in life
	10:47pm Robm: @Julie ha ha ha Ok guys going to bed
	🦇 10:47pm Aitch: Loving Henry in Barry
	🦇 10:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Late Robm
	🦇 10:48pm Julie: aww night Rob! Yes BARRY is great..haven't started the new season yet.
	10:48pm StringOFpeHirils: Gene Cousineau is a funny character, for sure.
	🦇 10:48pm Aitch: Love him anyway, despite him jumping the shark
	🦇 10:48pm Will the Sound Guy: I've been listening Julie, just came inside from working outside... diggin the tunes
	10:49pm Phillippe Bastille: Henry was great in Arrested Development
	🦇 10:49pm Julie: hiya Will! He may have jumped the shark but at least they never did an episode where they all burst into song
	🦇 10:50pm Julie: sad that a film career eluded him, he was good in one and only and the other one he did
	10:51pm C.S.: Did they ever do an evil twin Fonzie ep? Ha.
	🦇 10:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Mork...
	🦇 10:51pm Julie: I think he IS the evil twin. Should have had identical nerd cousin or something
	🦇 10:52pm Julie: Yes Mork! That was pretty out there
	🦇 10:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The 70s were a pretty awful 'Now' to be a little kid in often enuff tbh.
	🦇 10:53pm Julie: the only bad thing I remember in the 70s was gas lines
	🦇 10:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Think maybe we take a lot of social progress for granted.
	10:55pm C.S.: Sesame Street...Sat. Morning cartoons...riding bikes...playing in the woods unafraid of things. Seemed pretty good to me.
	10:56pm StringOFpeHirils: The 70s seem like about three decades to me. So much change. Not nearly as much as the 60s, but close.
	🦇 10:56pm Julie: I was annoyed that disco was long over by the time I was old enough to go out
	🦇 10:57pm Julie: you don't GET social progress when you're a child
	🦇 10:57pm Julie: but dammit the adults of the 70s ruined things because we ended up with AIDS and the war on drugs...
	10:57pm C.S.: I do see a heck of a lot of young people at work with "social anxiety" and it makes me wonder if they are too wired to their phones.
	10:58pm northguineahills: Been awhile since I've listened to this Kendra Smith album.... @Julie: we just did disco parties in the 2000s, myself and plenty others djed some.
	🦇 10:58pm Julie: I had social anxiety since I was a teen because of bullying, no cellphone needed
	10:59pm Dean: All adults ruined things. Don't pick on the '70s.
	🦇 10:59pm Julie: they are doing a roller disco thing at the rink in the park over the summer but damn I'd probably fall and hurt myself
	10:59pm C.S.: But now it's so prevalent among kids who seem okay. Maybe it's a first world problem kind of thing.
	🦇 10:59pm Julie: @Dean good point.
	🦇 11:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Truly a lot of things seem to be going into the toilet right now. Gun murder for instance. Being my age - 58 - Disco seemed like our Depression or WWII. Live venues switched to Disco - there was nothing else on the Radio ever ...yer Dad wanted to be JohnTravolta. The jocks loved it. & it seemed to go on for years & years like it would never end. Sorry - it was absolutely horrible & traumatic. People see it as ironic & cute now. It was a horror & a blight.
	11:00pm katharsis: Hello Julie and those of the dark night
	🦇 11:01pm Julie: hiya katharsis! yeah to the punk rockers who lived through it disco was hell. but to a little kid it seemed pretty cool .
	11:03pm northguineahills: my only exposure to disco at the time was from Sesame Street years after the fact....
	11:04pm dano59: Maybe it was the drugs, RR63
	11:04pm Dean: "to the punk rockers who lived through it disco was hell." I disagree. Our ears were always tuned to new musics, including disco. I wasn't a huge fan, but I got a kick out of hearing the new releases...just not incessantly.
	🦇 11:05pm Julie: I remember going to see Love at first bite and getting obsessed with "I love the night life" and requesting it on a radio station that was like NO we do NOT play disco
	🦇 11:06pm Julie: hiya dano!
	🦇 11:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always say this - all the docs & analyses spin it that Punk was a reaction to Prog. To me - it was a reaction to Disco. Of course that was then & this is now. I see it differently in the present. Primarily - I think Disco was quite different in Urban & NotUrban environments. It was not about Queers, HardDrugUsers or People of Color where I was! Also - Disco had an Arc to it - as most things do. It started as one thing & became commercialized & exploited - & that was mostly what reached us. & by us I mean the friends I smoked dope with in HighSchool in Claremont, NewHampshire - pop. 15,000 north of northeast of nowhere...
	🦇 11:06pm Julie: I think punk was more against the singer songwriter stuff that was happening
	11:07pm dano59: Phones, the unreal communication space lacking nuance and inflection, and the attendant misconstruing and apprehension of texting may lead to the heightened anxiety. I just roll with it because my social anxiety is real.
	11:08pm C.S.: Different version from Broadcast. Never heard it before.
	11:08pm northguineahills: Broadcast!!!!
	11:08pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Darkness! 🍻😎🤙🎶📻🌞🌏🦜🦜🦜🦜
	🦇 11:09pm Julie: it's been great for people (like me) who are shy in real life to use that to communicate. the problem starts when it's preferred to RL communication. Although during covid, it has been essential. Hiya Scott! This is a collection live on BBC stuff, CS
	11:09pm dano59: Punk was a reaction to every bloated rocker sellout from Elvis to Ozzy, I thought - not just to the bland stuff. NO FUTURE
	🦇 11:09pm Julie: it's kinda beautiful isn't it...
	🦇 11:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - or - a reaction to the first huge wave of Rawk becoming an established & truly mass market into the 1970s & becoming diluted. Too much ShowBiz. Which had happened in that bit between Elvis going into the Army & TheBeates arriving in the USA before...
	🦇 11:10pm Julie: By the time I was old enough punk was...hardcore
	11:10pm Dean: I don't think punk was all that reactionary. It was an affirmative expression of true creativity. By punk I mean roughly '76 to '79. The later stuff is not on my radar at all.
	11:10pm C.S.: For me the pandemic cut me off from people even with social media available. But other people in my life made new connections and freinds.
	11:11pm C.S.: That was the first song I ever heard from Broadcast. Still remember it fondly. RIP Trish Keenan
	11:11pm northguineahills: ok, sleeping early, good night!
	🦇 11:12pm Julie: I love punk, Dean, especially that era, but I always like to see what waves grow out of or spurred by
	🦇 11:12pm Julie: nite nite NGH!
	11:12pm northguineahills: ok, that was premature, another 10 mins...
	11:12pm Phillippe Bastille: I remember I was starting to date some woman and she wanted to go to a disco club, and since I thought I might like her I went, and when we got there they were playing Blondie and I was like “what the fuck?”
	11:12pm dano59: Broadcast is always so great. Was listening to their covers of Thirteen recently
	🦇 11:13pm Julie: I'm pretty sure the news about Trish came when I was doing my late night show, Poly Styrene also if I remember right.
	🦇 11:13pm Julie: Blondie's disco song broke them! and then they rapped. They really did it all.
	11:14pm Dean: My point is partly that I don't ever recall punks hating on prog rock or anything else. More likely we embraced it all. Shoot, we were just folks who liked music.
	11:14pm dano59: The pandemic really messed with my usual self- isolationist tendencies somehow.
	11:15pm Scott67: Floyd version!🍻😎🤙
	🦇 11:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I posit the term Internetrovert... I've always been a Mediahead - so the gushing firehose of the Interwebz - I love the access. Like right here ! Social Media is a completely new thing for Society tho of course. facebook felt like moving to a new town & standing nekkid in the Square. The ways it connects us powerfully & yet connects us not @ all is quite strange. Like participating in people's mental health crises in real time @ great distances. Medium of course is the Massage...
	🦇 11:16pm Julie: it has been...A LOT. None of us have come out unscathed, anyone who has must have something very wrong
	🦇 11:16pm Julie: I used to play this a LOT then someone emailed and told me to stop
	11:18pm dano59: 1979 was like the linchpin year for all those forms cresting / morphing/ ascendant and fading. Punk to post punk/New Wave-retro pop; post-Pub Rock; the 70s schlock overstaying it’s welcome. Saw Joe Jackson last night. Really brought us all back.
	🦇 11:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Quite ! Pandemic hit - I'm like - it's about Isolation ?! I'm an Introvert ! I got this ! ...Thing about that is - otoh - has been exactly the wrong thing for that condition in some respects. Like - I am too good @ Isolating it has turned out. To be frank.
	🦇 11:19pm Julie: wow Joe! I saw him in...1990 maybe? Whenever Blaze of Glory was out
	11:20pm dano59: Glad I’m not the only one, Julie/RR
	🦇 11:20pm Julie: @Rev I feel like I am too. I really miss being social and yet I probably do better without it than many I know
	11:20pm dano59: ‘89. He did the title track
	🦇 11:20pm Julie: I got very envious of those who do not live alone but then I remember they kinda got stuck with their partners & roomies for 24/7 in many cases
	🦇 11:21pm Julie: That was a great show, just whole album straight through, like a story. I hadn't even heard it before.
	🦇 11:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Aside from just not wanting bloodclots from longterm Covid from some schmuck won't wear a mask out there, of course. Cause ...that.
	🦇 11:22pm Aitch: I've worked from a home office for about 20 years so the Covid isolating was when other people found it was way better that way.
	🦇 11:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: BUT - the mantra : ...BACK to NORMAL.
	11:23pm dano59: I initially thought those couples I knew were lucky to be together for this but I saw at least five friends’/coworkers’ marriages & LTRs fall apart. Ouch.
	🦇 11:23pm Aitch: and there are these marvellous people who'll curate your soundtrack while you're at it
	🦇 11:23pm Julie: yep I saw a couple marriages break up. I also saw people meet AND get married during. I dunno how they did that
	🦇 11:24pm Aitch: My ex hated the home office because it was a bad way to meet people.
	11:24pm dano59: Oh yeah, Blaze of Glory is a novella! I think Laughter & Lust is too. I love JJ
	11:25pm C.S.: I just remember friends calling to wish you a happy birthday. I had friends who had been college radio DJs. I'd just call into their shows and we hit it off and later met in real life. Now I have to pull teeth to get a real life meeting and bribe with with paying for dinner.
	11:25pm rw: Seems like there's always something. I'm not sure what NORMAL should feel like. It all feels weirdly normal to me. That said, it HAS been abnormally trying in so many ways this past few years.
	11:26pm Phillippe Bastille: Pretty much an introvert here too. When we moved here It wasn’t long before Covid, and it was not long after I quit drinking, so my world got totally flipped — in a place where I didn’t know anyone, forced isolation cuz of the Covid, and then when stuff opened up, no liquor to chase away the social anxiety to meet new people. But the fishing’s pretty good
	11:26pm C.S.: Boston also got rid of their trolley buses a few months ago. Sad to see them go. Used to love riding them.
	11:27pm dano59: Vangelis’ Antarctica soundtrack is wonderful. The movie made me cry. He did Gallipoli too?
	11:28pm rw: And I'm with Aitch. Incredibly grateful for all you marvelous people out there.
	🦇 11:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ferinstance - we've been thru that ...& are still essentially no closer to a reasonable Health Care System. It doesn't give one hope for this Society.
	🦇 11:28pm Aitch: Gallipoli was JM Jarre
	11:30pm C.S.: Vangelis did the Bounty I think.
	11:30pm dano59: Jarre … really? I had 2 of his albums.
	🦇 11:31pm Aitch: We've got one, so not like it's not possible RR63. The world doesn't fall down if you look after people's health, quite the contrary. The USA?
	🦇 11:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The USA is too profit driven to be so humane.
	🦇 11:33pm Julie: Covid KILLED ride shares. Which makes it a lot more expensive to get anywhere in the city if you don't wanna be in a crowd.
	🦇 11:33pm Aitch: anyone who tries to mess that up here gets booted
	🦇 11:33pm Julie: @REV you nailed it there.
	🦇 11:34pm Julie: @CS You are in Boston? Why did I think you were in TX
	🦇 11:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...which, ironically, is financially utterly unsound.
	11:35pm northguineahills: A lot of people here got Covid in the last few weeks, b/c they did not get vaxxed, and it's not the homeless we serve (I'll let you fill in the blanks).
	11:35pm C.S.: Not sure. My avatar is an old Boston PCC trolley.
	11:35pm northguineahills: so, I'm stuck doing the work of four people the last week....
	11:35pm dano59: Back to punk - my little upstate city was about 2 years behind the curve, we had a couple good punk & new wave bands though. I always wondered where all the people with the spiked hair, safety pins and ripped T-shirts were every other night of the week
	🦇 11:36pm Julie: They are small on my screen I can't always tell what they are until I click them.
	11:36pm C.S.: It's okay, Julie. Most people wouldn't be able to tell it's a Boston trolley car anyway.
	🦇 11:36pm Julie: I like that there are still punks. Like there will always be punks like there will always be hippies.
	🦇 11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I like that about Tars ! Often look like something else @ this scale ...has to be a word for that...
	🦇 11:37pm Julie: UGH NGH that sucks
	11:37pm C.S.: there will always be goths too. I hope.
	🦇 11:37pm Julie: YES!
	11:38pm Phillippe Bastille: Never heard this Robyn Hitchcock before. Love it!
	11:38pm WR: In the midnight hour.
	🦇 11:38pm Julie: I love his originals of course but he does damn good covers. Hiya WR!
	11:38pm dano59: Well Hot Topic survives, so yea go goths
	11:38pm C.S.: A computer generated punk made it into some new commercial for a medicine. Saw it on TV a few weeks ago.
	🦇 11:39pm Julie: no real goth goes to hot topic
	🦇 11:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: That's PostModernism. Pick & choose anything - but none of it is worth writing your Manifesto about to live or die by - as under Modernism. It's just some pastiche of styles...
	11:39pm katharsis: Yes Playing outside in the woods in the 70’s
	🦇 11:39pm Julie: those are MALL GOTHS whole different breed
	🦇 11:40pm Julie: one thing about joan and her jet black hair she was rocker/punk/goth all at the same time
	11:41pm Dean: I'm not gonna let you get away with it again, RevRab. We are still hardcore modernists, no question. The idea of postmodernism is a distraction.
	11:41pm C.S.: Hmmm. It's an ad for asthma medication: www.tezspire.com
	🦇 11:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...every Bull gets turned into an Ox & assimilated...
	11:41pm dano59: I was being facetious. I’ve been hanging with pagans the last 10 years or so, a little crossover with goth culture
	🦇 11:42pm Julie: Indeed... Inkubus Sukkubus are a pagan goth band
	🦇 11:42pm Julie: I want to hang out with pagans, where can I find them
	11:42pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, and sometimes you get a hippie punk - punk hippie...like myself. Can I get s witness?
	🦇 11:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: How many Purists of any SubGenre does anybody really know ??
	11:42pm Dean: Why does nobody on WFMU play Kommunity FK? You want punk? Goth? Pagan?
	🦇 11:44pm Julie: I thought I had! I think I have some, I will try next week
	11:44pm dano59: Brushwood in Sherman, all the way at the other end of New York. Maybe 7 hours from NYC. Clothing optional. I’ve played Kinks songs at Bardic Circles there.
	🦇 11:44pm Julie: @franco I've always considered myself a hippie goth. the flowers are just black I guess.
	🦇 11:45pm Julie: what is a Bardic Circle? Outside open mic?
	11:46pm dano59: Yes like an open mic - readings from memory, music, spoken word.
	🦇 11:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sometimes call myself Long-Haired Punk. Feel like I'm the Punk among Hippies - & the Hippie when amongst Punks... But I'm so many things besides. & not qualified as much of anything...
	11:47pm katharsis: It’s a goth hippie punk mall freak out
	🦇 11:47pm Julie: oh that sounds fun...wonder if I can find something in dutchess county. @Katharsis that sounds wonderful!
	11:48pm katharsis: Not the bardic circle. I mean generally what I’m feeling like now
	11:48pm C.S.: I'm a.......hmmm. I'll have to get back to you on that one.
	🦇 11:48pm Julie: oh! that's good too!
	11:48pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, all those identifiers were only as good as the pulp paper they were printed on, which looking backwards, wasn't any good at all.
	11:48pm dano59: Man I love Mazzy Star. That’s the only one I have on vinyl.
	11:49pm C.S.: goth friendly? I wear a lot of dark blue.
	🦇 11:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I sure love Black. Enuff to be in danger @ crosswalks.
	🦇 11:50pm Julie: @Franco heya! did you bring twinkies for everyone?
	🦇 11:50pm Julie: there is a guy I follow on twitter called Cocteau Twink and damn that's a great name
	🦇 11:51pm Julie: I recently pinpointed this song as planting little goth seeds in me
	11:51pm northguineahills: I used wear a colorful garb in NYC. Now in FL, I wear blacks and midnight blues....
	🦇 11:51pm Julie: so now everyone knows you're from NYC
	🦇 11:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: When in Rome - do as the Celts do...
	11:52pm Franco Twinkie: Hope Sandoval went to high school a couple of miles from here. I understand she had a very difficult time there. I wonder if she even bothers to call herself anything except a brilliant singer.
	11:52pm dano59: Labels are odious, Franco. Why can’t we just BE?
	11:53pm C.S.: I'm still on the hunt for a Hawaiian shirt that fits in with my goth sensibilities.
	11:53pm northguineahills: Nice, Rev Rabbit jajaja
	11:53pm Franco Twinkie: Julie, organic cherries. I don't eat that other shit.
	11:54pm dano59: Jean Cocteau and the singer Twink? I can see the gig posters now
	11:54pm C.S.: Well, now I have to go to work. Happy World Goth Day...a little early.
	🦇 11:54pm Julie: no, get it Cocteau Twins, Cocteau Twink
	🦇 11:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: As Lou said - I got a Rawk'n'Roll heart ...by my definition. Not yours...
	🦇 11:54pm Julie: thanks CS! come by sheena's on sun if you can. Good to see you, take care!
	11:55pm Franco Twinkie: C.S, I use to ride that street car downtown Los Angeles when I was a little kid.
	🦇 11:55pm Aitch: I bought mazzy star so tonight that i might see on a bootleg cassette in Thailand way back then and then played it during a bark-hut tropical holiday. So when I hear it now I think of palm trees
	11:55pm dano59: C.S. I recommend an all-over black dragonflies pattern embroidered onto less black
	11:55pm C.S.: Thanks Julie. Have a good night.
	11:55pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Julie!
	11:56pm northguineahills: thanks, julie!
	11:57pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Julie. Hurry back!
	🦇 11:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Take care.
	🦇 11:58pm Julie: thanks so much everybody!
	11:59pm katharsis: Thank you Julie and all
	11:59pm dano59: Thanks so much Julie… take care
	11:59pm Scott67: Thanks JULIE ✌😎🤙❤
	12:00am rw: Geez that was quick. Thank you Julie! Have a good evening all you marvelous hippie goth punk weirdos!
	🦇 12:00am Julie: it was quick indeed!
	🦇 12:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ Julie ~
	12:01am WR: Thank you Julie!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from May 19, 2022

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