WFMU: Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 26, 2022

Listener comments!
	9:47am Jan Turkenburg: Hi there! Going live at the top of the hour!
	9:49am WR: Maybe today I can listen while I work. Hope I didn't just jinx myself and trigger the cosmos to make a customer emergency.
	9:53am Jan Turkenburg: LOL
	9:53am Jan Turkenburg: Hi WR!
	10:00am MHLee: Hi Jan!
	10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:04am Kitschy Mama: Afternoon Jan! Great tunes as usual!
	10:04am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Kitschy Mama!
	10:06am MHLee: This is such a good melody
	10:07am WR: To mesh with your Shanghai Shuffle theme, I'm reading a memoir by Si-lan Chen Leyda. browse.nypl.org... Born in Trinidad, father full Chinese. en.wikipedia.org... Her father was lawyer who became a diplomat involve in Chinese independence activities. en.wikipedia.org...
	10:09am MHLee: I know of a doo-wop song written by a Chinese Trinidader
	10:10am Jan Turkenburg: Sounds intriguing, WR!
	10:11am MHLee: I also know after the Chinese Exclusion Act a bunch of Chinese immigrated to China (hence the Cuban Chinese restaurant) I wonder if that was true for other Caribbean Isles
	10:16am David (in London): Afternoon Jan and assembled vintage groovers.
	10:16am Jan Turkenburg: Hello David!
	10:17am MHLee: I've always wanted to go to a Cuban Chinese place but there aren't very many left. I think there are a few in New York.
	10:22am chresti - in Frisco: Morning Jan and over/unders! Listening as much as my internet allows
	10:23am Jan Turkenburg: Hi chresti!
	10:23am fred: Hello Jan and all. Holiday here, so easier for me to comment. I bought my first batch of contemporary dance tickets for next year. The big one comes in June, only bought 18. Should have been 19, but one threatened to involve audience members
	10:24am Jan Turkenburg: Hello fred! You had me laughing out loud there :-)
	10:25am fred: @chresti: did you catch Vicki's show?
	10:29am David (in London): Chrestikins! Fred. Ahoy.
	10:29am WR: Hello fred, David (iL), chresti, MHLee. In addition to Cuban Chinese there are Equador or Peru Chinese places.
	10:30am David (in London): WR, salutations!
	10:30am chresti - in Frisco: Hi fred, I went to the Vicki Bennet presentation last night. It was the first event I’ve attended in over 2 years
	10:30am WR: Also Indian Chinese places.
	10:33am WR: That's great chresti! I started following Vicki via patreon and bandcamp, saw the notices about the several USA west coast events.
	10:36am fred: @chresti:I hope you liked it. I'm cursed on that front: first time I should have seen her work she got sick and had to cancel (in before times), second time there was a fire in the theater. She made do with a screening in an artist space, but it wasn't right
	10:39am Rich in Washington: Nice, chresti! Didja get to say hi to Vicki?
	10:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Rich!
	10:40am WR: One more comment about the Si-lan Chen memoir, she and her siblings joined her father in China but soon after, as the Chinese independence movement splintered, moved to Russia and were there, mostly in Moscow, for the 1930s. Nearly every paragraph sends me down Wikipedia rabbit holes finding out more about the events and people she mentions.
	10:42am Rich in Washington: Hi Jan! Splendid show you've got going on here!
	10:42am Jan Turkenburg: thank you!
	10:45am WR: In contrast to the exoticism in the Japanese Sandman series, in the tunes with Shanghai in the title I hear little except an occasional extra cymbal strike to differ from usual foxtrot / swing tunes of their time.
	10:55am WR: Oh, you got the files via soulseek. Thank you for the update on this.
	10:58am Jan Turkenburg: Initially I did. I downloaded them over a period of months over 10 years ago. These days I also use other sources. i've extended my CD-collection and I also look on archive.org. The more scratchy recordings are usually from archive.org. Over half of the material still comes from Cees van Beek's collection.
	11:00am Jan Turkenburg: I only go on soulseek occasionally now, but I see there are people that are still sharing Cees' collection, but seldom completely. You can recognise the files by the unusual 160 bitrate, which would be a problem with modern recordings, but works well with these oldies.
	11:04am fred: Someday there will be a show here where people discuss the aberration that was the mp3 era. Maybe that mangled sound will define our times
	11:07am Jan Turkenburg: About Van Nelle: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	11:10am WR: WFMU streaming is mostly 128K mp3 so the abberation continues.
	11:13am Jan Turkenburg: Maybe that will be solved when quantum internet arrives.
	11:15am Jan Turkenburg: 'streaming at 8000 TerraQubits/s"
	11:15am WR: Sez Wikipedia: ""Shanghai Lil", featuring Cagney and Ruby Keeler dancing together." so I would guess if Keeler is dancing that she would be singing.
	11:16am Rich in Washington: 160 mono is like 320 stereo. Plus the frequency range of old recordings is rather narrow. @fred: at times I feel like the debate is lost on people using Spootify, Yootoob, etc. to DJ with, with resulting bitcrunch.
	11:17am Jan Turkenburg: Ah, thanks! I already guessed that Ruby Keeler was the most likely suspect.
	11:19am David (in London): Dig those Bob Cats.
	11:20am fred: A former coworker would only read actual books through her iPad's camera because it looked better that way. She also said live music sounded bad, she'd rather hear the show later from apple
	11:24am MHLee: Annoyingly amazon only sells mp3s
	11:24am MHLee: Bandcamp allows any type but I feel like it would be hell to convert my hundreds of purchases to FLAC
	11:26am Feldy: Hello Jan! David, MHLee, Rich, WR, fred!
	11:26am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Adam!
	11:27am WR: I strongly prefer reading from paper, but I'm old. Audio I go with FLAC when available.
	11:27am Feldy: These Art Deco posters are amazing
	11:28am David (in London): Hey Feldy.
	11:29am WR: That said, I'm still buying an occasional LP but only when that is the only way to get extensive notes / booklets.
	11:37am Ursula1000: hello Jan and listeners!
	11:37am Feldy: Hey Ursula1000
	11:38am Ursula1000: hiya Feld!
	11:38am Feldy: It was normal to kiss your neighbor's wife in 1946?
	11:38am Jan Turkenburg: Those were the days.. sigh...
	11:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Ursula1000!
	11:43am fred: @MHLee: depends on your goal. For long-term archival, FLAC is riskier with not that great space savings compared to PCM. If you're listening in a noisy place, mp3 is good enough (except for noise or percussion heavy music). I like FLAC conceptually, but the useful cases are rather rare
	11:47am MHLee: I usually download in mp3-320 but I rip in wav from cds and flac from record
	11:49am MHLee: I need to purchase a record cleaner, I have some eddie peabody and les baxter to rip
	11:50am Mr Fab: rushes over to computer to write YODELING!
	11:50am Jan Turkenburg: LOL, hi Mr Fab!
	11:53am Jan Turkenburg: Everybody, please be aware of this new SJR show:wfmu.org...
	11:54am David (in London): Thanks Jan, great fun show today.
	11:54am Lizardner Dave !: Thanks Jan!
	11:55am Mr Fab: Indeed, MHLee's show debuts TOMORROW!
	11:55am MHLee: Thanks Jan!
	11:55am fred: @MHLee: FLAC and wav are the same, as long as FLAC decoders are maintained (small community, so that could be an issue). mp3-320 is good enough for some uses, but the loss can't be reversed, so it depends on your goal
	11:56am WR: Thank you Jan! Onward.
	11:56am Ursula1000: Yay MHLee!!!!!! Cheers Jan! Stay locked in for Sounds Spectacular next! wfmu.org...
	11:56am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Lizardner Dave!
	11:57am desi: Ty Jan
	11:57am Rich in Washington: I remember back in the day buying MP3s on dodgy Russian MP3 sites and when the norm became 320, they simply upsampled all their 128 mp3s to 320. Stupid. I got what I paid for, I guess.
	11:57am Jan Turkenburg: desi!
	11:58am desi: Stay safe & Enjoy it all friends
	11:59am Mr Fab: thank you good sir Jan!

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 26, 2022

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May 26, 2022: 203 Shanghai Shuffle

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Artist	Track	Year	Comments	Images	Approx. start time
	intro "intro"				0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra	Fallen Leaf (An Indian Love song)	1927	(Hoja Caida)		0:00:58 (Pop-up)
The Ramblers	Shanghai Lil "Shanghai Lil" by "The Ramblers"	1934	(vocal - Wim Poppink)		0:03:45 (Pop-up)
Dick Ngube	Ngim sorry "Ngim sorry" by "Dick Ngube"				0:07:01 (Pop-up)
Irwin Abrams Orchestra	Shanghai Dream Man	1927			0:09:47 (Pop-up)
Ruby Keeler, Clarence Nordstrom, Ginger Rogers, Una Merkel	Shuffle Off To Buffalo	1933			0:12:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				0:17:30 (Pop-up)
Bunny Berigan	Shanghai Shuffle "Shanghai Shuffle" by "Bunny Berigan"	1938			0:19:37 (Pop-up)
Alibert de l'empire	Les hommes ne mentent jamais	1930			0:23:18 (Pop-up)
""
Al Turk's Princess Orchestra	Shanghai Honeymoon	1924			0:26:30 (Pop-up)
Ritz Quartet	Shanghai Dream Man (Shanghai-Träume)	1927			0:29:39 (Pop-up)
Mina Revelli	Mei Leibjodler "Mei Leibjodler" by "Mina Revelli"				0:32:16 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				0:35:04 (Pop-up)
Fletcher Henderson	Shanghai Shuffle (1) 10-10-1924	1924			0:36:40 (Pop-up)
Fletcher Henderson	Shanghai Shuffle (2) 7-11-1924	1924			0:39:53 (Pop-up)
Fletcher Henderson	Shanghai Shuffle	1934			0:42:39 (Pop-up)
Regent Club Orchestra	Can't you hear me say I Love you	1927			0:45:41 (Pop-up)
Peter Biljo's Balalaika Orchestra	On The Embankments of Manchuria	1927			0:48:36 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				0:51:13 (Pop-up)
Buster Bailey	Shanghai Shuffle "Shanghai Shuffle" by "Buster Bailey"	1934			0:54:23 (Pop-up)
Thomas Sibanda and his guitar	Angisoze ngi Phinde				0:56:39 (Pop-up)
James Cagney	Shanghai Lil "Shanghai Lil" by "James Cagney"	1933	(soundtrack 'Footlight Parade')		0:59:34 (Pop-up)
""
Bert Van Dongen	Van Nelle's Theelied	1934			1:04:46 (Pop-up)
Lionel Hampton and his Orchestra	Scrub Me Mama With A Boogie Beat	1940			1:07:33 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				1:10:45 (Pop-up)
Kansas City Stompers	Shanghai Honeymoon	1929			1:12:17 (Pop-up)
The Delmore Brothers	Lonesome yodel blues	1933			1:14:52 (Pop-up)
Bing Crosby And Connie Boswell	Yes Indeed	1952	With Bob Crosby And The Bob Cats		1:17:24 (Pop-up)
Ignacio Corsini	Yo Tambien era dichoso	1927			1:20:29 (Pop-up)
Paul Whiteman	Shanghai Dream Man "Shanghai Dream Man" by "Paul Whiteman"	1927			1:23:30 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				1:26:52 (Pop-up)
State Street Ramblers	Shanghai Honeymoon	1928			1:28:47 (Pop-up)
Carmen Miranda	Let's Do The Copacabana	1947	(film soundtrack)		1:31:35 (Pop-up)
""
Ndlovu Brothers	Nozipho "Nozipho" by "Ndlovu Brothers"		(Mabija & Mabija)		1:34:53 (Pop-up)
Dinning Sisters	He Like It She Like It	1946			1:37:16 (Pop-up)
Chicago Rhythm Kings	Shanghai Honeymoon	1936			1:40:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Carrol Gibbons, Arthur Gibbons (Quatres Mains)	Shanghai Shuffle				1:42:49 (Pop-up)
Django Reinhardt	Hallelujah "Hallelujah" by "Django Reinhardt"	1945	(+ Glenn Miller's All Stars)		1:45:24 (Pop-up)
Bobby Klein	De Volendamse jodelaar	1955		Bobby Klein 1970s Bobby Klein 1970s	1:48:10 (Pop-up)
Carl Fenton	Goodbye Shanghai "Goodbye Shanghai" by "Carl Fenton"	1922	(+ Rudy Wiedoeft)		1:51:18 (Pop-up)
Doris Day	Shanghai "Shanghai" by "Doris Day"	1951			1:56:53 (Pop-up)

Lots and lots of other audio antiquities on WFMU:

Centennial Songs - The Antique Phonograph Music Program contextually presented by Michael Cumella

The Ragged Phonograph Program with Mike Haar Original ragtime, jazz, and pop music from the first quarter of the 20th century, with historical background on vaudeville-era artists

Thomas Edison's Attic The audio curator at Edison National Historic Site rummages through the archives of the legendary Edison Laboratory of West Orange, New Jersey

The Old Codger: playing 78 RPM records like they're going out of style!

Rare Oldies Radio hosted by Kitschy Mama, featuring lost songs from the 50s & 60s: Retro Obscuro with Kitschy Mama

Music from the 1920s in the January 7, 2020 episode of Continental Subway with David Dichelle

Music and other recordings of Lynda Barry in the june 7, 2020 episode of Canibal Stew with DJ ARB

You might want also to check out the Surface Noise archives with DJ Joe McGasko from 2008 and 2009

More Dutch 'forgotten artists' can be found on Vergeten Artiesten by Mike Winkelman

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Listener comments!
	9:47am Jan Turkenburg: Hi there! Going live at the top of the hour!
	9:49am WR: Maybe today I can listen while I work. Hope I didn't just jinx myself and trigger the cosmos to make a customer emergency.
	9:53am Jan Turkenburg: LOL
	9:53am Jan Turkenburg: Hi WR!
	10:00am MHLee: Hi Jan!
	10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:04am Kitschy Mama: Afternoon Jan! Great tunes as usual!
	10:04am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Kitschy Mama!
	10:06am MHLee: This is such a good melody
	10:07am WR: To mesh with your Shanghai Shuffle theme, I'm reading a memoir by Si-lan Chen Leyda. browse.nypl.org... Born in Trinidad, father full Chinese. en.wikipedia.org... Her father was lawyer who became a diplomat involve in Chinese independence activities. en.wikipedia.org...
	10:09am MHLee: I know of a doo-wop song written by a Chinese Trinidader
	10:10am Jan Turkenburg: Sounds intriguing, WR!
	10:11am MHLee: I also know after the Chinese Exclusion Act a bunch of Chinese immigrated to China (hence the Cuban Chinese restaurant) I wonder if that was true for other Caribbean Isles
	10:16am David (in London): Afternoon Jan and assembled vintage groovers.
	10:16am Jan Turkenburg: Hello David!
	10:17am MHLee: I've always wanted to go to a Cuban Chinese place but there aren't very many left. I think there are a few in New York.
	10:22am chresti - in Frisco: Morning Jan and over/unders! Listening as much as my internet allows
	10:23am Jan Turkenburg: Hi chresti!
	10:23am fred: Hello Jan and all. Holiday here, so easier for me to comment. I bought my first batch of contemporary dance tickets for next year. The big one comes in June, only bought 18. Should have been 19, but one threatened to involve audience members
	10:24am Jan Turkenburg: Hello fred! You had me laughing out loud there :-)
	10:25am fred: @chresti: did you catch Vicki's show?
	10:29am David (in London): Chrestikins! Fred. Ahoy.
	10:29am WR: Hello fred, David (iL), chresti, MHLee. In addition to Cuban Chinese there are Equador or Peru Chinese places.
	10:30am David (in London): WR, salutations!
	10:30am chresti - in Frisco: Hi fred, I went to the Vicki Bennet presentation last night. It was the first event I’ve attended in over 2 years
	10:30am WR: Also Indian Chinese places.
	10:33am WR: That's great chresti! I started following Vicki via patreon and bandcamp, saw the notices about the several USA west coast events.
	10:36am fred: @chresti:I hope you liked it. I'm cursed on that front: first time I should have seen her work she got sick and had to cancel (in before times), second time there was a fire in the theater. She made do with a screening in an artist space, but it wasn't right
	10:39am Rich in Washington: Nice, chresti! Didja get to say hi to Vicki?
	10:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Rich!
	10:40am WR: One more comment about the Si-lan Chen memoir, she and her siblings joined her father in China but soon after, as the Chinese independence movement splintered, moved to Russia and were there, mostly in Moscow, for the 1930s. Nearly every paragraph sends me down Wikipedia rabbit holes finding out more about the events and people she mentions.
	10:42am Rich in Washington: Hi Jan! Splendid show you've got going on here!
	10:42am Jan Turkenburg: thank you!
	10:45am WR: In contrast to the exoticism in the Japanese Sandman series, in the tunes with Shanghai in the title I hear little except an occasional extra cymbal strike to differ from usual foxtrot / swing tunes of their time.
	10:55am WR: Oh, you got the files via soulseek. Thank you for the update on this.
	10:58am Jan Turkenburg: Initially I did. I downloaded them over a period of months over 10 years ago. These days I also use other sources. i've extended my CD-collection and I also look on archive.org. The more scratchy recordings are usually from archive.org. Over half of the material still comes from Cees van Beek's collection.
	11:00am Jan Turkenburg: I only go on soulseek occasionally now, but I see there are people that are still sharing Cees' collection, but seldom completely. You can recognise the files by the unusual 160 bitrate, which would be a problem with modern recordings, but works well with these oldies.
	11:04am fred: Someday there will be a show here where people discuss the aberration that was the mp3 era. Maybe that mangled sound will define our times
	11:07am Jan Turkenburg: About Van Nelle: nl-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog...
	11:10am WR: WFMU streaming is mostly 128K mp3 so the abberation continues.
	11:13am Jan Turkenburg: Maybe that will be solved when quantum internet arrives.
	11:15am Jan Turkenburg: 'streaming at 8000 TerraQubits/s"
	11:15am WR: Sez Wikipedia: ""Shanghai Lil", featuring Cagney and Ruby Keeler dancing together." so I would guess if Keeler is dancing that she would be singing.
	11:16am Rich in Washington: 160 mono is like 320 stereo. Plus the frequency range of old recordings is rather narrow. @fred: at times I feel like the debate is lost on people using Spootify, Yootoob, etc. to DJ with, with resulting bitcrunch.
	11:17am Jan Turkenburg: Ah, thanks! I already guessed that Ruby Keeler was the most likely suspect.
	11:19am David (in London): Dig those Bob Cats.
	11:20am fred: A former coworker would only read actual books through her iPad's camera because it looked better that way. She also said live music sounded bad, she'd rather hear the show later from apple
	11:24am MHLee: Annoyingly amazon only sells mp3s
	11:24am MHLee: Bandcamp allows any type but I feel like it would be hell to convert my hundreds of purchases to FLAC
	11:26am Feldy: Hello Jan! David, MHLee, Rich, WR, fred!
	11:26am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Adam!
	11:27am WR: I strongly prefer reading from paper, but I'm old. Audio I go with FLAC when available.
	11:27am Feldy: These Art Deco posters are amazing
	11:28am David (in London): Hey Feldy.
	11:29am WR: That said, I'm still buying an occasional LP but only when that is the only way to get extensive notes / booklets.
	11:37am Ursula1000: hello Jan and listeners!
	11:37am Feldy: Hey Ursula1000
	11:38am Ursula1000: hiya Feld!
	11:38am Feldy: It was normal to kiss your neighbor's wife in 1946?
	11:38am Jan Turkenburg: Those were the days.. sigh...
	11:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Ursula1000!
	11:43am fred: @MHLee: depends on your goal. For long-term archival, FLAC is riskier with not that great space savings compared to PCM. If you're listening in a noisy place, mp3 is good enough (except for noise or percussion heavy music). I like FLAC conceptually, but the useful cases are rather rare
	11:47am MHLee: I usually download in mp3-320 but I rip in wav from cds and flac from record
	11:49am MHLee: I need to purchase a record cleaner, I have some eddie peabody and les baxter to rip
	11:50am Mr Fab: rushes over to computer to write YODELING!
	11:50am Jan Turkenburg: LOL, hi Mr Fab!
	11:53am Jan Turkenburg: Everybody, please be aware of this new SJR show:wfmu.org...
	11:54am David (in London): Thanks Jan, great fun show today.
	11:54am Lizardner Dave !: Thanks Jan!
	11:55am Mr Fab: Indeed, MHLee's show debuts TOMORROW!
	11:55am MHLee: Thanks Jan!
	11:55am fred: @MHLee: FLAC and wav are the same, as long as FLAC decoders are maintained (small community, so that could be an issue). mp3-320 is good enough for some uses, but the loss can't be reversed, so it depends on your goal
	11:56am WR: Thank you Jan! Onward.
	11:56am Ursula1000: Yay MHLee!!!!!! Cheers Jan! Stay locked in for Sounds Spectacular next! wfmu.org...
	11:56am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Lizardner Dave!
	11:57am desi: Ty Jan
	11:57am Rich in Washington: I remember back in the day buying MP3s on dodgy Russian MP3 sites and when the norm became 320, they simply upsampled all their 128 mp3s to 320. Stupid. I got what I paid for, I guess.
	11:57am Jan Turkenburg: desi!
	11:58am desi: Stay safe & Enjoy it all friends
	11:59am Mr Fab: thank you good sir Jan!

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 26, 2022

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