WFMU: Irwin Chusid: Playlist from July 8, 2022

Listener comments!
	7/4 9:37am Always First: Ferst
	👻 7/6 7:20am 12539: Sometimes second.
	👻 11:26am G: Toid.
	👻 11:30am G: Jazz was originally a baseball term, for funky movement pitchers would get on their pitches by how they released them. Actually, the origin before that is jasm, jism, jazz, slang for sperm, and used in baseball because a funky-moving pitch seemed like it was alive. A "jazz ball," they said. -- Jazz for unusual, less formal, improvised, etc. music came a little later.
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Happy Fridays, Irwin and the Chusid People!
	👻 12:00pm 12539: ¡Irwin!
	👻 12:01pm G: La musica.
	12:01pm the lonely phillip: Ahhh 😁😁😁 IRWIN I'm high on painkillers from getting my wisdom tooth ripped out
	👻 12:01pm G: Are you still wise?
	12:02pm the lonely phillip: Got this huge hole in the back of my mouth
	12:02pm spodiodi: aloha, Irwin and everyone!
	12:02pm mark couture: Hello, everybody.
	12:02pm the lonely phillip: @G western beef had a 4 for 5 dollar sale on lipton soup.
	12:03pm the lonely phillip: Arent they supposed to sew the hole shut???
	👻 12:03pm G: Western Beef, only the best :-)
	12:03pm Handy Haversack: Anyone know what won the contest?
	12:04pm rx scabin: Good afternoon, Irwin and Everyone.
	12:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'You can tell the history of jazz in four words: Louis Armstrong. Charlie Parker.' - MilesDavis ...or so he wished perhaps.
	👻 12:04pm 12539: I wonder what this kind of music is called.
	12:05pm the lonely phillip: Dentist said bite down on the hole with the gauze. I hope it stops bleeding
	12:05pm rx scabin: @12539 good
	12:05pm chresti: Hi Irwin and comments gallery!
	12:06pm Irwin: Hello, y'all. Wait til you hear about my BREAKFAST! Because that's foremost on your minds.
	12:06pm the lonely phillip: I'm going to be in a lot of pain when the novacane wears off. They really had to dig to get it out😱
	12:06pm bradford: jazam!
	12:07pm blossom endrot: good lord the lonely phillip. careful for dry socket
	12:07pm rx scabin: @Irwin It is the most important meal of the day beside happy hour.
	12:07pm tom tom the pipers son: oh... nubya's a lady
	12:07pm the lonely phillip: @Irwin very nice, thank you, but have to pass on eating until the hole starts to clot and close
	👻 12:08pm rrg: I love that we get to talk about a different medical issue every week. Also breakfasts.
	12:09pm the lonely phillip: I waited a long time to get rid of this impacted wisdom. Tooth. They really really had to dig it out. 😱
	12:10pm the lonely phillip: The only appointment the st barnabus dental clinic would give me. And I wanted the lady dentist
	12:10pm Marie: Oh wow, I thought this was Dry Cleaning. I was gonna say I love the Dry Cleaning song where she talks about eating a hot dog. Hi Irwin, Hi everybody!
	12:11pm the lonely phillip: The very very nice lady dentist who went out of her way not to hurt me.
	12:11pm love2laf: @Handy Ted Gioia did a post on this the winner was crewcut tedgioia.substack.com...
	12:11pm rx scabin: @the lonely phillip start the painkillers before that.
	12:12pm Irwin: love2: Gioia's Substack is where I stole the image. Great writer, always an interesting read.
	12:12pm Cooh John: Hello Irwits. Thank you for signing your book for me, Irwin. The inscription has inspired me to take up karaoke.
	👻 12:13pm rrg: Right, Phillip, don’t let them wear off!
	12:13pm the lonely phillip: @rx scabin i already picked up my prescription. Now I hope this hole stops bleeding. It's been 2 hours already
	12:13pm blossom endrot: idk it sounds like Phillip’s kind of into it
	12:14pm Irwin: Hey, coohman, glad I could add to the book's eventual (after your passing) resale value!
	12:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Medical Breakfast Music
	12:15pm the lonely phillip: Until it stops bleeding I cant lay down.
	12:15pm chresti: sorry phillip! Did he have to put clamps on your head to keep it still while he extracted the tooth?
	12:16pm love2laf: @Irwin got turned onto Ted Gioia by WFMU of course, by Sheila B., loved his word of the year: Sophistry.
	12:16pm Greg from ZONE 5: Afternoon, Irwin & all!
	12:16pm the lonely phillip: Hey. How long is this hole supposed to bleed for. It's been 2 hours and the gauze is soaked in blood. Damn it😡
	12:16pm blossom endrot: I’m picturing Jack Nicholson in a dentist’s waiting room enjoying an issue of Modern Pain.
	12:17pm love2laf: @lonely when I had my tooth done the dentist recommended biting down on a tea bag if it kept going, one with tannins so black tea. It took two, but it did help.
	12:17pm the lonely phillip: @chresti they had to clamp open my mouth, that kinda scared me.
	12:18pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, love2laf! (And Irwin, of course.)
	12:19pm the lonely phillip: At least they gave me enough gauze pads to bite down on.
	👻 12:19pm G: @phillip: They didn't want you biting their fingers off, or chewing on their equipment.
	12:20pm Handy Haversack: Gioia sort of buries that the winner was a music librarian at KOMO!
	12:20pm rx scabin: @the lonely phillip call the dentist. Do you have more gauze?
	12:21pm the lonely phillip: Very lucky I felt no pain the way they had to dig it out of my jaw. I guess that comes later.
	12:22pm the lonely phillip: @rx scabin they gave me 3 boxes of it so I'm ok.
	12:22pm the lonely phillip: Damn teeth. Damn damn teeth. Problems always problems
	12:23pm love2laf: What a great set to kick of the afternoon, thanks Irwin.
	12:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Saxism
	👻 12:25pm Jennica: I'm thrilled to be here and loving this show. Thank you, Irwin. I hope you had a delightful vacation.
	12:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Get Brexfast Done
	12:26pm spodiodi: i'm getting worried
	12:26pm egould: I would murder for pastrami and eggs right now.
	12:26pm the lonely phillip: OMG😱😱😱FOOD talk about food😱 I'm starving
	12:26pm spodiodi: beware The Sheen
	👻 12:27pm Jennica: Ew
	12:28pm Handy Haversack: Jennica! Long time! Did the pastrami lure you back?
	👻 12:29pm G: lonely phillip does not believe in suffering in silence :-)
	12:29pm egould: Gus needs to pull the stick out of his ass.
	12:29pm spodiodi: olo G
	12:29pm tom tom the pipers son: does the fmu studio have barf bags?
	👻 12:29pm Jennica: I heard Gus might be here and I have missed Irwin... and my one million goings-on have settled down to 827, so I'm back! Thank you, Handy. :)
	12:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: A precarious Gustrointestinal moment.
	12:30pm chresti: emergen-c and fizzy water helps my nausea. also activated charcoal
	12:30pm the lonely phillip: DOES gus have any tattoos anywhere. And do we want to know where they are?,?
	12:30pm asheville jon: Gus is living the vanlife!
	12:30pm spodiodi: uh oh
	12:31pm WR: Gus, Gus, are you there Gus?
	12:31pm PMD: Darn. Missed the discussion about food. Taking chances.
	👻 12:31pm G: Gus didn't mention Bang Records once.
	12:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: To be so eloquent regarding one's inelegance.
	👻 12:32pm Jennica: @RRNov63: Word.
	12:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Yes I am ...but you are ugly - & I'll be sober tomorrow'...
	12:35pm ryansterlingvirtue: Loving this set!
	12:35pm Mike W: This is an authoritative program.
	12:35pm Carmichael: Nothing like a nice omelette and a jazz cigarette.
	12:37pm tom tom the pipers son: @irwin mantana roberts, she's a great sax player... couldn't remember her name
	👻 12:37pm G: This guy sounds like Kermit the Frog.
	12:39pm egould: @G Kermit the Frog as voiced by Scott Thompson from KITH
	👻 12:40pm DjLorraine: The lonely phillip maybe give them a call since direct pressure with gauze isnt working fast enough. I'm almost certain they asked about any blood thinners or vit C
	12:40pm Irwin: The band that evolved into ELO.
	12:40pm Feldy: Feeling this show, Irwin
	12:41pm Irwin: Cover version by an obscure '60s psyche band Ars Nova.
	12:41pm blossom endrot: my cat is also bellying up to the speaker for these sounds. unprecedented
	12:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: BobBrainen just posted the family tree of TheMove: www.facebook.com... ...they name those after the guy who did them - can't remember...
	12:43pm Carmichael: Roy Wood and Jeff Lynne.
	12:43pm Irwin: RR63: Pete Frame
	12:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY ! ...his name right on it der...
	12:44pm WM: I think the band Ars Nova was subject of a profile in Life magazine of 1968.
	12:44pm Irwin: Carm: And monster drummer Bev Bevan.
	12:44pm BillyLundun: dang I've never properly heard this track, what fun!
	👻 12:45pm G: Saw The Move on Top of the Pops in maybe 72-73. Deliberately wild costuming.
	👻 12:45pm DjLorraine: Gus! - Alaskan polar bear...
	12:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah people exalt Shazam! & I never latched onto it - you'd think it'd be right in my wheelhouse. This helps !
	👻 12:46pm G: I seem to recall that Roy Wood and Jeff Lynne just didn't get along?
	12:47pm Re6ecca: Listening from Bora Bora! Nice to see you're on the air Irwin! Listened to your show religiously way back when!!!
	12:47pm Carmichael: I know Wood left ELO after the 1st album. He would later create Wizzard.
	12:47pm judy from croton: Well, this song is sublime!
	12:48pm Carmichael: Wood had some wonderful solo works, Boulders and Mustard.
	12:48pm Irwin: judy: the whole Bess of Bedlam album is sublime. I don't know where they found all those notes.
	👻 12:50pm DjLorraine: Cooh John do you have a karaoke device in the Boom Boom music room? Or are you going out to one of the numerous music establishments in your area?
	👻 12:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: Greetings, Irwin and Irwidescent listeners.
	12:51pm Yes: hello all
	12:51pm love2laf: Ron Carter is my fave, after seeing him live in NYC I was awestruck by his talent, and how he shares the stage with his fellow musicians.
	👻 12:52pm Jennica: That Bess of Bedlam song sounds like Bryony Atkinson and Inara George.
	12:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It's almost like Jazz players listen to each other ...I mean - imagine the possibilities !!...
	👻 12:55pm Jennica: @RRNov63: Tee Hee
	12:58pm love2laf: Irwin, Ron Carter lists the musician on the YouTube video, and yes you have the bassist correct. www.youtube.com...
	👻 12:58pm 12539: Where can I find the dates and venues for the surface noise tour?
	12:59pm ryansterlingvirtue: Alvvays! My fav’
	12:59pm luka: also stoked for new Alvvays. hello, friends.
	1:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: But damn ! ...it's Alvvays something...
	1:01pm Hubig Pie: VVovv, a nevv Alvvays !
	1:02pm egould: More Can con!
	1:02pm Bryant in TO: Hey, all! Thanks for the hot Alvvays tip, Irwin. They were my first Toronto concert, playing a public library show years ago. Lurvly stuff
	1:03pm jan: Exploring music with you lo these 4 decades and now with Mo Jazz on your playlist I learn something new whenever I tune in. Fridays @noon are essential!
	1:03pm Irwin: egould: Played Shoresy.
	1:03pm Irwin: Hello, longest-running listener Jan!!
	1:03pm mark couture: according to Wikipedia, "Bass Duet" has R.C. on cello, Mal Waldron on piano, Duvivier on bass and Charlie Persip on drums, actually a quartet.
	1:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Triumph ! 👏 You keep going Alvvays.
	1:04pm Irwin: mark: you may have solved the conundrum.
	1:04pm Carmichael: Sounds not unlike Marc Bolan.
	👻 1:04pm Jennica: @Carm: agree
	1:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: & some BeachBoys.
	1:06pm jan: @Irwin- longest-really? where's everyone else gone to?
	👻 1:06pm Jennica: @Handy - and they have this new rule at work: "no meeting Fridays" - hahahaha - loving it
	1:07pm Irwin: Hello, Jennica! Welcome back to the radio rumpus room that is WFMU.
	1:07pm mark couture: Irwin, has anybody taken you on your challenge to explore the changing definitions of "jazz" over the decades? If not I might look into it.
	1:08pm -жеи: I wish I could find out what the winning word was for that down beat ad-contest...
	1:08pm Irwin: No one has, Mark. Please take on the project.
	1:09pm mark couture: OK!
	1:10pm Irwin: Great bass on this session by Carol Kaye.
	👻 1:11pm Jennica: Thank you, Irwin. @lonely: Twilight? Hallucinate?
	1:11pm Handy Haversack: -жеи: "Crewcut": tedgioia.substack.com... (h/t) love2laf)
	👻 1:11pm Listening Out There: BBC World Service said it was going to air a piece on Carol Kaye, but I have not tracked it down. Must do this...one o' these days...
	1:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'I'm only sleeping.' - brother John
	1:12pm Irwin: Any Carol Kaye session has great bass.
	👻 1:12pm Listening Out There: Oh. It's here. 27 minutes, it says: www.bbc.co.uk...
	1:12pm Irwin: "Colonnaded ruins domino."
	1:12pm Carmichael: Here's your answer, Ken: "In the late ‘40s, jazz seemed to be losing its cohesion. As the big band era ebbed and swing stars were dismissed as “has-beens,” tradition and modernism fought for the privilege of defining jazz. Even the word “jazz” seemed curiously passâ€š to some. So in July 1949 DownBeat took it upon itself to announce a contest for the best word to replace “jazz.” The magazine offered to pay $1,000 in cash to the person “who coins a new word to describe the music from dixieland through bop,” the headline said. Second and third prizes included the services of Charlie Barnet’s orchestra and the Nat Cole Trio for one night in one’s home. Even Norman Granz, whose Jazz at the Philharmonic tours were keeping a mass market interested in jazz, contributed $400 worth of prizes. In November came the word that the panel of judges deemed preferable to jazz: crewcut. Other alternatives included jarb, freestyle, mesmerrhythm, bix-e-bop, blip, schmoosic, and other equally contrived specimens."
	1:13pm Irwin: Sorry, "columnated," not colonnaded.
	1:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never did get why Syd, Roky & Skip are Gawds of DamagePsych & Smile was always characterized as undistinguished Failure.
	1:14pm Handy Haversack: Looking forward to three hours of bix-e-bop Wednesday morning.
	1:14pm Irwin: I used to hear "colonnaded" and had no idea what that line meant. Then had to admit I don't understand any of VDP's lyrics on "Surf's Up."
	1:14pm Ike: As much as I love WFMU, one of the things I'll never understand is the long-standing penchant for Beach Boys demos. How can this possibly be entertaining? [insert Simpsons "old man yells at cloud" meme of choice here]
	1:15pm Irwin: Ike: You didn't have to be there. The stuff sounds like magic to many. Count me in.
	1:18pm Irwin: Any insight into Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic arrangements and instrumentation is always fascinating. He heard things differently than most musician/arrangers.
	1:18pm Carmichael: Count Me In was the name of a drummer doc I recently saw. Pretty decent and educational for non-drummer me.
	1:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Isolate tracks & deconstruct some things - & the thing falls apart. The Pet Sounds Sessions box is like walking around & being with Columnated ruins of the ancient & noble Parthenon previously only seen in Two Dimensions... I often prefer Demos to Productions in - I'd suggest - just the same way I find Sketches often more interesting - & even satisfying - than completed Paintings.
	1:18pm coelacanth∅: i'll just stay here in the middle, where it's safe
	👻 1:20pm Listening Out There: Tony Williamsing
	1:20pm f0f0 (: Ike, For me it's hearing the insights of geniuses at work. But don't get me started with Ken's obsession with Dylan's demos. Joking Ken. those are great too!
	1:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...as for whether or not TheBeachBoys are Kewl - Yes & No & No & Yes. BrianWilson - 1 TheseTimes - 0
	1:21pm f0f0 (: Also, hi.
	1:22pm blujacket: good morning from vancouver, hell of a show so far...
	1:22pm Handy Haversack: ¡Hola, f0f0! Dos vezes en una semana -- ¡que milagro!
	1:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah honestly - how much of what BrianWilson or TheBeatles were doing in the Studio in the 1960s do I wanna know about? How about Everything.
	1:23pm Hubig Pie: Term for Miles Davis' music- Some good chit, yo
	1:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - same with Dylan Writing or Hendrix Improvising (or ...doing anything). Gimme the full PhilSchapp for each of 'em.
	1:24pm f0f0 (: Hola, Handy! Mi huevo amigo
	1:26pm coelacanth∅: in many cases i like the demos or unfinished versions of beach boys songs better than the final product. less of mike love's singing; less of Brian Wilson's singing; sometimes no singing at all; less overproduction. in some cases it's the only version i like.
	1:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sure but - the Vocals Only disc in the PetSoundsSession box ?? Sing a bit did the BeachBoys.
	1:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& of course with BrianWilson - all this Arranging & Producing was IN HIS HEAD & nowhere else.
	1:32pm coelacanth∅: their harmonies are elementary, for the most part. and Brian's singing often makes me cringe. ...and the idea that he's "genius"? - what's genius? technically (as a psychology term) it means nothing. and in practical terms, Brian's up there with the top maybe 1000 musical geniuses. possibly. ... there's limitless genius in the musical world, and most of it never gets called genius.
	1:34pm coelacanth∅: ...(but that's just another of my unfashionable opinions in wfmuland)
	1:34pm the lonely phillip: Love the jazzy sounds! Relaxing. Forgetting my troubles
	1:37pm rx scabin: I know that I am supposed to like the Beach Boys.
	1:38pm desi: oK checking in pastrami aging hippie?
	1:38pm aging hippie∅: don't eat the pastrami AT ALL, Maaan
	1:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Brian is not a Lyricist per se - TheBeachBoys bear the stamp of being a Pre-Dylan act. & all that implies in terms of 'Kewl' Rawk Culture. But - PetSounds is about exactly that: the Loss of Innocence - not just of Coming of Age - but of the mid1960s itself for the whole Culture - indeed the entire Modernist mid20thCentury. So ...I think this is the problem a lot of people have with them. Their Harmonies were based on the Four Freshmen where everybody else did two-part harmony based on the EverlyBrothers. Which Brian applied in another way entirely. Isn't all Rawk~Pop 'elementary' ?? so - I 'cringe' @ such critiques of such Genres reflexively... It's like TrumanCapote saying Kerouac was just Typing - or Sinatra saying Rawk was awful Swing. Correct on one hand - looking in entirely the wrong place on the other. Which we all do about one or the other...
	1:39pm desi: loL no nitrates @1:38 aging
	1:39pm Irwin: Strausbaugh/Patterson book launch: citylore.org...
	1:40pm desi: cool ty 4 the music & launch info
	1:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: one thing... That is - I suspect people just not liking TheBeachBoys & where they take them is understandable. Denying BrianWilson is a Genius is willfully petty. & people think they're the same thing.
	1:42pm Re6ecca: I have earwax buildup in one ear, any tricks beside doctor to get rid of it? Peroxide taking for ever to work. Still can't hear so well.
	1:43pm HyperDose: You know it's a good day when you come home to Irwin on your "radio"
	1:45pm Irwin: So many Beach Boys recordings of the late 1960s DO NOT SOUND LIKE THE LATE '60s. Brian ignored so many period cliches. Check out the drum patterns on a lot of those songs. There's often no rock beat per se. He's using the kit as a percussion section.
	1:45pm Hubig Pie: This sounds like Air maybe Boards of Canada ?
	👻 1:45pm rrg: Something called "Debrox" is supposed to help with that.
	1:45pm Irwin: Brian often didn't "arrange" -- he orchestrated.
	1:46pm Picante Mint (from Dayton): Re6ecca I had a completely clogged ear for two weeks. CVS minute clinic recommended using ear drops with carbamide peroxide 6.5%. Most pharmacies should have a generic version of it. I did drops 3 times a day in both ears and used cotton balls for 10 minutes after. After a week I used an ear flush with warm water and it cleared it all up.
	1:49pm coelacanth∅: there's nothing petty about a decision which is the culmination of decades'worth of thinking, and it's arrogant to suggest that. i've listened to every beach boys track that's commercially available. many of them many times. the only thing i have working against my judgement is that i didn't hear it when it was first created, in the context of other music at the time. but this applies to all music from that time; and it's easy to see the brilliance in many musicians. and easy to hear the sophistication in the harmonies of, for example, the beatles, the zombies, peter paul & mary ... that does not exist in the beach boys.
	1:49pm Hubig Pie: Debrox ™ and pointing the shower head directly into ear canal might help but nothing beats the doctor
	1:50pm Ike: Aging hippies? Didn't you hear Fabio's show yesterday, Irwin? We apparently aren't plagued by aging hippies, or dirty hippies, or aging dirty hippies anymore. Now it's all about journeymen. Or at least guys who drive Fabio crazy by talking about "going on a journey, man!" But let's call them journeymen for short.
	1:51pm coelacanth∅: and i don't hate the beach boys, for the record. i just can't stand about 1/2 their music. that leaves quite a lot of music that i do like.
	1:53pm Kotzwinkled: Wow Mitchell and Webb's Back! I forgot to ever watch the second season, even though they can do no wrong in my book.
	1:54pm Irwin: Kotz: Ye shall be richly rewarded.
	1:55pm kham: "Are we the baddies?"
	1:55pm egould: Cringe!
	1:55pm Kotzwinkled: Hell yeah. It's time to Watch Back Better.
	1:55pm ben shapiro: imma give kenny boy $10 000 to get my name on wfmu transmitter
	1:57pm Michael: Mitchell and Webb's Peep Show was brilliant.
	1:59pm bill OHARA: its wonderful io hear your program again .
	2:00pm Laura L: Well, I'm late this week again!
	2:00pm Kotzwinkled: GODDAMN DAVE HILL
	2:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ok sure. Ask PaulMcCartney & GeorgeMartin about BrianWilson & TheBeachBoys. & PeteTownshend. & a few other people. Or not. It's a (superficially & consistently less) Free (crypto-oligarchy that proclaims Democracy & is a Republic on paper) Country. The BeachBoys have bad vocals ...next.
	2:05pm Hubig Pie: It was Goddamit Dave Hill that introduced me to that Patsy Cline classic- 3 Cigarettes inna Ashtray
	2:07pm KevinfromBayRidge: Hello all. Nice to be listening to the Mothership. Glad the Gray Pastrami is remaining in the GI, Irwin! Goddamnnnnnn.
	2:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jesus was Way Kewl ...he could play gittar better than DaveHill - & arrange better than BrianWilson...
	2:07pm HyperDose: Jesus knew how to party, man
	2:09pm tom tom the pipers son: somewhere i got the notion that dave hill did the opening music for the john oliver show. is that true?
	2:10pm Re6ecca: @HubigPie. Thanks! Will try that instead when I get back from vacation. They don't have it here! Pharmacy gave me a 10 day treatment in the meantime!
	👻 2:12pm DjLorraine: Haha Oops i almost thought Welcome to Jungle was gonna happen
	2:12pm rx scabin: @Re6ecca a change of diet can prevent it.
	2:12pm Hubig Pie: Tarragon drizzle sounds delish on fish. If outta tarragon , substitute chervil. Good luck with the earses Re6ecca, I suffer from that malady too.
	2:12pm coelacanth∅: RR, yes, i'm not as qualified to an informed opinion as Macca or Martin. because they're famous. that's along the same lines as those who say musicians should stay out of politics because they're just musicians so they don't know anything. ...and Macca and Martin on no occasion had terrible judgement, after all. next.
	2:12pm HyperDose: @Tom "The theme song turns out to be "Go" by Valley Lodge, a power pop quintet based in New York. It is off their third self-released album, Use Your Weapons (2013)" www.youtube.com...
	2:12pm efd: @tom tom For a while (not sure if it still is), the theme song for Jon Oliver's show was "Go" by Dave Hill's band Valley Lodge.
	2:13pm efd: oh, hi Irwin!
	2:14pm Stevel: efd: Isn't it getting close to your bedtime? #morninghero
	2:14pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks hyper, efd!
	2:15pm efd: @Stevel I took a little nap when I got home. Still feeling out of sorts, though. I don't know how Clay does it!
	2:15pm joe mulligan: I'd imagine the new word for jazz turned out to be "cool jazz" but crewcut sounds interesting too
	2:16pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Yeah, I miss Dave and pedal talk.
	2:17pm Stevel: efd: WHen I was a news photographer, occasionally I'd get called out in the middle of the night. Take about 3 hours to cover the scene and get the pictures done (run film/download, etc.) No matter how much you slept after coming back home, the day was like walking underwater.
	2:18pm Irwin: Hullo, Dr. Davies, a.k.a. Fysician of Funk.
	2:19pm efd: @Stevel That describes the situation pretty well.
	2:22pm WM: Thanks for the Don Pullen.
	2:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @coela: & of course Macca & Martin also had the odd Creative success we might point to - in exactly these areas. In fact, I use them because you compared TheBeatles favorably to Brian & the BBoys vocally. Of course - BrianWilson had to be both Macca & Martin for himself, essentially. & - I will grant you this: TheBeatles were never statice with Arrangements - or anything. Whereas Brian arguably (or not) peaked in 1966. In fact - I did grant you that already in a sense.
	2:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...also - I am now & then surprised how many others besides the BeachBoys in the 1960s (& therefore afterwords) did also arrange vocals beyond two parts. & remarkably well. But generally after them.
	2:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *static
	2:28pm Carmichael: Rawlinson End! Knew this from the opening bars!
	2:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but maybe TheBeatles peaked in 1966 too. & other things besides.
	2:28pm JG: Coalecanth, one other thing you may have working against your judgement is that you have your head up your ass
	2:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ad hominem.
	2:29pm Irwin: WM: Don Pullen - like Sun Ra and Jaki Byard - play like they swallowed an Encyclopedia of 20th C Jazz Piano.
	👻 2:30pm G: Such great track choices. Is this where we use the verb "curate"? :-)
	2:34pm egould: Poised over her sherry like a mantis… Brilliant!
	2:35pm The Oscar: Busy working, but loving this Viv! Somewhere I still have a bootleg VHS of his Rawlinson End movie.
	2:35pm Rick from SC: I just picked up my son from the coffee shop where he works and the first thing he tells me is that the coach of St. Peters basketball came in the store and my son, who is autistic, asks him if he knows WFMU. He says yes. End of conversation. Hilarious. My son knows a lot about WFMU b/c it is on most of the time.
	2:35pm Stevel: "I knew she carried a snorkel in her handbag, but...would she use it?" I'm dying here!
	2:37pm tom tom the pipers son: @rrn63 have you heard sweet and bitter from the sunflower boxed set? pretty good unreleased song. don't know brian wilson s involvement. went to a signing session with brian wilson back in 2000 and when i got up to him i cried like a baby
	👻 2:37pm G: For another great Keith Emerson player, see several Rachel Flowers vids on the YT, and also her own compositional work on CD etc. (She happens to be sightless, BTW.)
	2:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @tom tom: Giant boxed sets are usually financially inaccessible to me lately. :) But I describe that whole period as the BeachBoys doing for several albums what TheBeatles got to only on AbbeyRoad (their last Studio effort). & nobody cared it seems.
	2:40pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: I love this song. Working for assholes really does suck, I’ve been there. I’m sure many of us have.
	2:40pm coelacanth∅: RR you've decided that my saying their harmonies were elementary means i think their vocals are "bad". this isn't the case. their vocals are perfect. i can't imagine anyone denying that. but as you said, influenced by the four freshmen. very straight-forward. barber shop quartet-like. in my opinion, not interesting. ...and mike's and Brian's voices making me cringe is subjective. how it affects me and i never said otherwise. if they had looked to folk songs being sung by people we'll never know the names of in the blue ridge mountain (for example) they'd have found more complex harmonies to incorporate into theirs.
	2:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fair enuff :)
	2:41pm Michael 98145: what JetBoy just said
	2:41pm tom tom the pipers son: sweet and bitter and pretty much all of the sunflower boxed set is on youtube
	2:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...we needn't elaborate / deliberate on the MikeLove factor I don't think...
	2:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: tom tom - oh yeah probly right.
	2:45pm coelacanth∅: heh... but it worked for the early songs
	2:45pm unpopularfred: Mike Garson played keys with Mr. Bowie for many years
	2:45pm Howard & the Cats: I love the Rawlinson End movie!!!
	👻 2:46pm DjLorraine: Rick from SC i LOVE that mini-story at 2:35
	2:47pm Irwin: Bryce update: www.gofundme.com...
	2:48pm P-90: “I don’t know if he’ll be back in THIS slot…” What, is Irwin now calling dibs on Friday afternoons?
	2:48pm P-90: … I guess ownership is nine tenths of the law, as they say
	2:50pm Michael 98145: glad so many came forward to support Bryce
	2:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hearing BigStar 'Fell In Love With a Girl' back somewhere...
	2:51pm Listener Robert: Wasn't "jazz" replaced by "fuck"? I had no idea Down Beat was instrumental in popularizing that term.
	2:51pm luka: does anyone know for sure if Mona's on tonight? she very much appeared to be in Ireland...
	2:54pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Mona is supposed to be on tonight!
	2:54pm rx scabin: Dinner is prepped, and Martini time approaches.
	2:55pm Robm: @luka as of 255 mona will be on
	👻 2:55pm 12539: Thank you very kindly, Irwin.
	👻 2:55pm rrg: Good show, old chap! I'll be back for another one, and I'll betcha most of these other people will be too.
	2:56pm spodiodi: thanks, Irwin!
	2:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ MC IC ~
	2:56pm Irwin: Thank you, rrg. And all season ticketholders.
	2:57pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks, irwin, fun show
	2:57pm Binky: Nifty programming, Irwin! Made quick work of my work day - yay!
	2:57pm chresti: Thanks Irwin! Hi spodi\\//
	2:57pm Robm: Will have to catch thecrest of this on the archives later
	2:57pm love2laf: Thanks for a great show Irwin, great afternoon thanks to you. Off to do some chorin'
	2:57pm StringOFperils: Thanks!
	2:57pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin--yes, same time next week... and archives to catch up for the tardy tune in.
	2:57pm Irwin: BINKY!!!! Give the bear a hug for me.
	2:57pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Yes, great show and many thanks.
	2:57pm rx scabin: Thank you, Irwin. I enjoy your show.
	2:57pm Picante Mint: Wonderful show today. Happy Friday all.
	👻 2:57pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Irwin! Rockin' hard as, as, um.....
	2:57pm Rick from SC: @dj Lorraine. Thanks
	2:58pm Michael 98145: nitrate-free
	👻 2:59pm G: Aww, it's over. But Sheila is super listenable, too :-)
	2:59pm spodiodi: hi/bye chresti!\\//
	2:59pm Undead83: Another great installment that deserves to be re-listened
	2:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Irwin! Thanks for not kicking me off the board! and for not saying i have my head up my ass if my opinion doesn't coincide with yours
	👻 3:00pm Jennica: Outstanding show. Thank you again, Irwin.
	👻 3:00pm G: @coel: Freedom's a wonderful thing when you use it well.
	3:01pm Irwin: coel: WTF?? Never kicked you off. Maybe some admin. No blame here.
	3:03pm coelacanth∅: Irwin - for NOT kicking me off! (no sarcasm)
	3:06pm Irwin: You've never said anything I object to, and even if you did, I'm a free speech advocate. At any rate, thanks for your contributions each week to the comments. Tally ho!
	3:09pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Irwin!
	8:17am Irwin: Show tagline from Lake Chaubunagungamaug.

Irwin Chusid: Playlist from July 8, 2022

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July 8, 2022: I fish on my side. You fish on your side. And no one fishes in the middle.

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Nubya Garcia	Red Sun "Red Sun" by "Nubya Garcia"	Nubya's 5ive	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Dead Anyway	Frankenstein "Frankenstein" by "Dead Anyway"	Are We Doing This?	0:07:53 (Pop-up)
Coco Steel & Lovebomb	Yachts (A Man Called Adam Mix)	Hôtel Costes 3 - Etage 3	0:10:09 (Pop-up)
Oscar Lang	Are You Happy? "Are You Happy?" by "Oscar Lang"	Chew the Scenery	0:15:36 (Pop-up)
Luna	Smile "Smile" by "Luna"	Lunapark	0:19:05 (Pop-up)

Gus Bodenheim	Gus Wakes Up in a Strange Place	The Gus Bodenheim Contractual Obligation Series	0:28:29 (Pop-up)
Cub	Life of Crime "Life of Crime" by "Cub"	Come Out, Come Out	0:29:59 (Pop-up)
Helen	Motorcycle "Motorcycle" by "Helen"	The Original Faces	0:32:34 (Pop-up)
Frankie Cosmos	Art School "Art School" by "Frankie Cosmos"	Zentropy	0:33:59 (Pop-up)
Jared Keeso & Camille Sullivan	Be Good to Your Woman	Shoresey	0:36:08 (Pop-up)
Pink Mountaintops	Miss Sundown "Miss Sundown" by "Pink Mountaintops"	Peacock Pools	0:36:47 (Pop-up)
The Move	Fields of People "Fields of People" by "The Move"	Shazam	0:39:23 (Pop-up)
Bess of Bedlam	Pinky & Millie "Pinky & Millie" by "Bess of Bedlam"	Dance Until the Crimes End	0:45:00 (Pop-up)
Ron Carter (George Duvivier, bass)	Bass Duet	Where?	0:47:50 (Pop-up)

Alvvays	Pharmacist "Pharmacist" by "Alvvays"	Blue Rev	1:00:30 (Pop-up)
The Babe Rainbow	Peace Blossom Boogy	The Babe Rainbow	1:02:14 (Pop-up)
Adam Melchor	Moon in the Morning "Moon in the Morning" by "Adam Melchor"	Melchor Lullaby Hotline, Vol. 1	1:05:22 (Pop-up)
Beach Boys	Surf's Up (1st Movement)	The Smile Sessions	1:08:43 (Pop-up)
Marshall Chapman	Tower of Song "Tower of Song" by "Marshall Chapman"	Songs I Can't Live Without	1:13:37 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	Stuff "Stuff" by "Miles Davis"	Miles in the Sky	1:18:51 (Pop-up)

Foreign/National	Let It Be What It Is	The Garden	1:39:05 (Pop-up)
Ray Barretto	Lester Left Town "Lester Left Town" by "Ray Barretto"	Homage to Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers	1:46:49 (Pop-up)
Louise Brealey	Rembrandt's Two Moors	Back (Mitchell-Webb series)	1:52:25 (Pop-up)
Steve Wynn and the Miracle 3	Resolution	Northern Aggression	1:53:27 (Pop-up)
Dave Hill	The Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes	Pride of Cleveland	1:59:07 (Pop-up)
Wand	Send / Receive (Mind) "Send / Receive (Mind)" by "Wand"	Ganglion Reef	2:10:16 (Pop-up)

Don Pullen	Big Alice "Big Alice" by "Don Pullen"	Solo Piano Album	2:16:52 (Pop-up)
Bonzo Dog Band	Rawlinson End "Rawlinson End" by "Bonzo Dog Band"	Let's Make Up and Be Friendly	2:26:52 (Pop-up)
Danny Holt	Tribute to Keith Emerson	Piano Music of Mike Garson	2:35:34 (Pop-up)
Peter Bibby	Work for Arseholes "Work for Arseholes" by "Peter Bibby"	Grand Champion	2:36:53 (Pop-up)

The Shut-Ups	How Long Will You Be Simple, Simple Ones?	I Was Made for These Times	2:47:23 (Pop-up)
Ford Theatre	Time Changes "Time Changes" by "Ford Theatre"	Time Changes	2:50:36 (Pop-up)
Disappears	Magics "Magics" by "Disappears"	Lux	2:54:03 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	7/4 9:37am Always First: Ferst
	👻 7/6 7:20am 12539: Sometimes second.
	👻 11:26am G: Toid.
	👻 11:30am G: Jazz was originally a baseball term, for funky movement pitchers would get on their pitches by how they released them. Actually, the origin before that is jasm, jism, jazz, slang for sperm, and used in baseball because a funky-moving pitch seemed like it was alive. A "jazz ball," they said. -- Jazz for unusual, less formal, improvised, etc. music came a little later.
	11:58am Handy Haversack: Happy Fridays, Irwin and the Chusid People!
	👻 12:00pm 12539: ¡Irwin!
	👻 12:01pm G: La musica.
	12:01pm the lonely phillip: Ahhh 😁😁😁 IRWIN I'm high on painkillers from getting my wisdom tooth ripped out
	👻 12:01pm G: Are you still wise?
	12:02pm the lonely phillip: Got this huge hole in the back of my mouth
	12:02pm spodiodi: aloha, Irwin and everyone!
	12:02pm mark couture: Hello, everybody.
	12:02pm the lonely phillip: @G western beef had a 4 for 5 dollar sale on lipton soup.
	12:03pm the lonely phillip: Arent they supposed to sew the hole shut???
	👻 12:03pm G: Western Beef, only the best :-)
	12:03pm Handy Haversack: Anyone know what won the contest?
	12:04pm rx scabin: Good afternoon, Irwin and Everyone.
	12:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'You can tell the history of jazz in four words: Louis Armstrong. Charlie Parker.' - MilesDavis ...or so he wished perhaps.
	👻 12:04pm 12539: I wonder what this kind of music is called.
	12:05pm the lonely phillip: Dentist said bite down on the hole with the gauze. I hope it stops bleeding
	12:05pm rx scabin: @12539 good
	12:05pm chresti: Hi Irwin and comments gallery!
	12:06pm Irwin: Hello, y'all. Wait til you hear about my BREAKFAST! Because that's foremost on your minds.
	12:06pm the lonely phillip: I'm going to be in a lot of pain when the novacane wears off. They really had to dig to get it out😱
	12:06pm bradford: jazam!
	12:07pm blossom endrot: good lord the lonely phillip. careful for dry socket
	12:07pm rx scabin: @Irwin It is the most important meal of the day beside happy hour.
	12:07pm tom tom the pipers son: oh... nubya's a lady
	12:07pm the lonely phillip: @Irwin very nice, thank you, but have to pass on eating until the hole starts to clot and close
	👻 12:08pm rrg: I love that we get to talk about a different medical issue every week. Also breakfasts.
	12:09pm the lonely phillip: I waited a long time to get rid of this impacted wisdom. Tooth. They really really had to dig it out. 😱
	12:10pm the lonely phillip: The only appointment the st barnabus dental clinic would give me. And I wanted the lady dentist
	12:10pm Marie: Oh wow, I thought this was Dry Cleaning. I was gonna say I love the Dry Cleaning song where she talks about eating a hot dog. Hi Irwin, Hi everybody!
	12:11pm the lonely phillip: The very very nice lady dentist who went out of her way not to hurt me.
	12:11pm love2laf: @Handy Ted Gioia did a post on this the winner was crewcut tedgioia.substack.com...
	12:11pm rx scabin: @the lonely phillip start the painkillers before that.
	12:12pm Irwin: love2: Gioia's Substack is where I stole the image. Great writer, always an interesting read.
	12:12pm Cooh John: Hello Irwits. Thank you for signing your book for me, Irwin. The inscription has inspired me to take up karaoke.
	👻 12:13pm rrg: Right, Phillip, don’t let them wear off!
	12:13pm the lonely phillip: @rx scabin i already picked up my prescription. Now I hope this hole stops bleeding. It's been 2 hours already
	12:13pm blossom endrot: idk it sounds like Phillip’s kind of into it
	12:14pm Irwin: Hey, coohman, glad I could add to the book's eventual (after your passing) resale value!
	12:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Medical Breakfast Music
	12:15pm the lonely phillip: Until it stops bleeding I cant lay down.
	12:15pm chresti: sorry phillip! Did he have to put clamps on your head to keep it still while he extracted the tooth?
	12:16pm love2laf: @Irwin got turned onto Ted Gioia by WFMU of course, by Sheila B., loved his word of the year: Sophistry.
	12:16pm Greg from ZONE 5: Afternoon, Irwin & all!
	12:16pm the lonely phillip: Hey. How long is this hole supposed to bleed for. It's been 2 hours and the gauze is soaked in blood. Damn it😡
	12:16pm blossom endrot: I’m picturing Jack Nicholson in a dentist’s waiting room enjoying an issue of Modern Pain.
	12:17pm love2laf: @lonely when I had my tooth done the dentist recommended biting down on a tea bag if it kept going, one with tannins so black tea. It took two, but it did help.
	12:17pm the lonely phillip: @chresti they had to clamp open my mouth, that kinda scared me.
	12:18pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, love2laf! (And Irwin, of course.)
	12:19pm the lonely phillip: At least they gave me enough gauze pads to bite down on.
	👻 12:19pm G: @phillip: They didn't want you biting their fingers off, or chewing on their equipment.
	12:20pm Handy Haversack: Gioia sort of buries that the winner was a music librarian at KOMO!
	12:20pm rx scabin: @the lonely phillip call the dentist. Do you have more gauze?
	12:21pm the lonely phillip: Very lucky I felt no pain the way they had to dig it out of my jaw. I guess that comes later.
	12:22pm the lonely phillip: @rx scabin they gave me 3 boxes of it so I'm ok.
	12:22pm the lonely phillip: Damn teeth. Damn damn teeth. Problems always problems
	12:23pm love2laf: What a great set to kick of the afternoon, thanks Irwin.
	12:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Saxism
	👻 12:25pm Jennica: I'm thrilled to be here and loving this show. Thank you, Irwin. I hope you had a delightful vacation.
	12:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Get Brexfast Done
	12:26pm spodiodi: i'm getting worried
	12:26pm egould: I would murder for pastrami and eggs right now.
	12:26pm the lonely phillip: OMG😱😱😱FOOD talk about food😱 I'm starving
	12:26pm spodiodi: beware The Sheen
	👻 12:27pm Jennica: Ew
	12:28pm Handy Haversack: Jennica! Long time! Did the pastrami lure you back?
	👻 12:29pm G: lonely phillip does not believe in suffering in silence :-)
	12:29pm egould: Gus needs to pull the stick out of his ass.
	12:29pm spodiodi: olo G
	12:29pm tom tom the pipers son: does the fmu studio have barf bags?
	👻 12:29pm Jennica: I heard Gus might be here and I have missed Irwin... and my one million goings-on have settled down to 827, so I'm back! Thank you, Handy. :)
	12:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: A precarious Gustrointestinal moment.
	12:30pm chresti: emergen-c and fizzy water helps my nausea. also activated charcoal
	12:30pm the lonely phillip: DOES gus have any tattoos anywhere. And do we want to know where they are?,?
	12:30pm asheville jon: Gus is living the vanlife!
	12:30pm spodiodi: uh oh
	12:31pm WR: Gus, Gus, are you there Gus?
	12:31pm PMD: Darn. Missed the discussion about food. Taking chances.
	👻 12:31pm G: Gus didn't mention Bang Records once.
	12:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: To be so eloquent regarding one's inelegance.
	👻 12:32pm Jennica: @RRNov63: Word.
	12:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'Yes I am ...but you are ugly - & I'll be sober tomorrow'...
	12:35pm ryansterlingvirtue: Loving this set!
	12:35pm Mike W: This is an authoritative program.
	12:35pm Carmichael: Nothing like a nice omelette and a jazz cigarette.
	12:37pm tom tom the pipers son: @irwin mantana roberts, she's a great sax player... couldn't remember her name
	👻 12:37pm G: This guy sounds like Kermit the Frog.
	12:39pm egould: @G Kermit the Frog as voiced by Scott Thompson from KITH
	👻 12:40pm DjLorraine: The lonely phillip maybe give them a call since direct pressure with gauze isnt working fast enough. I'm almost certain they asked about any blood thinners or vit C
	12:40pm Irwin: The band that evolved into ELO.
	12:40pm Feldy: Feeling this show, Irwin
	12:41pm Irwin: Cover version by an obscure '60s psyche band Ars Nova.
	12:41pm blossom endrot: my cat is also bellying up to the speaker for these sounds. unprecedented
	12:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: BobBrainen just posted the family tree of TheMove: www.facebook.com... ...they name those after the guy who did them - can't remember...
	12:43pm Carmichael: Roy Wood and Jeff Lynne.
	12:43pm Irwin: RR63: Pete Frame
	12:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY ! ...his name right on it der...
	12:44pm WM: I think the band Ars Nova was subject of a profile in Life magazine of 1968.
	12:44pm Irwin: Carm: And monster drummer Bev Bevan.
	12:44pm BillyLundun: dang I've never properly heard this track, what fun!
	👻 12:45pm G: Saw The Move on Top of the Pops in maybe 72-73. Deliberately wild costuming.
	👻 12:45pm DjLorraine: Gus! - Alaskan polar bear...
	12:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah people exalt Shazam! & I never latched onto it - you'd think it'd be right in my wheelhouse. This helps !
	👻 12:46pm G: I seem to recall that Roy Wood and Jeff Lynne just didn't get along?
	12:47pm Re6ecca: Listening from Bora Bora! Nice to see you're on the air Irwin! Listened to your show religiously way back when!!!
	12:47pm Carmichael: I know Wood left ELO after the 1st album. He would later create Wizzard.
	12:47pm judy from croton: Well, this song is sublime!
	12:48pm Carmichael: Wood had some wonderful solo works, Boulders and Mustard.
	12:48pm Irwin: judy: the whole Bess of Bedlam album is sublime. I don't know where they found all those notes.
	👻 12:50pm DjLorraine: Cooh John do you have a karaoke device in the Boom Boom music room? Or are you going out to one of the numerous music establishments in your area?
	👻 12:50pm Ken From Hyde Park: Greetings, Irwin and Irwidescent listeners.
	12:51pm Yes: hello all
	12:51pm love2laf: Ron Carter is my fave, after seeing him live in NYC I was awestruck by his talent, and how he shares the stage with his fellow musicians.
	👻 12:52pm Jennica: That Bess of Bedlam song sounds like Bryony Atkinson and Inara George.
	12:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It's almost like Jazz players listen to each other ...I mean - imagine the possibilities !!...
	👻 12:55pm Jennica: @RRNov63: Tee Hee
	12:58pm love2laf: Irwin, Ron Carter lists the musician on the YouTube video, and yes you have the bassist correct. www.youtube.com...
	👻 12:58pm 12539: Where can I find the dates and venues for the surface noise tour?
	12:59pm ryansterlingvirtue: Alvvays! My fav’
	12:59pm luka: also stoked for new Alvvays. hello, friends.
	1:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: But damn ! ...it's Alvvays something...
	1:01pm Hubig Pie: VVovv, a nevv Alvvays !
	1:02pm egould: More Can con!
	1:02pm Bryant in TO: Hey, all! Thanks for the hot Alvvays tip, Irwin. They were my first Toronto concert, playing a public library show years ago. Lurvly stuff
	1:03pm jan: Exploring music with you lo these 4 decades and now with Mo Jazz on your playlist I learn something new whenever I tune in. Fridays @noon are essential!
	1:03pm Irwin: egould: Played Shoresy.
	1:03pm Irwin: Hello, longest-running listener Jan!!
	1:03pm mark couture: according to Wikipedia, "Bass Duet" has R.C. on cello, Mal Waldron on piano, Duvivier on bass and Charlie Persip on drums, actually a quartet.
	1:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Triumph ! 👏 You keep going Alvvays.
	1:04pm Irwin: mark: you may have solved the conundrum.
	1:04pm Carmichael: Sounds not unlike Marc Bolan.
	👻 1:04pm Jennica: @Carm: agree
	1:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: & some BeachBoys.
	1:06pm jan: @Irwin- longest-really? where's everyone else gone to?
	👻 1:06pm Jennica: @Handy - and they have this new rule at work: "no meeting Fridays" - hahahaha - loving it
	1:07pm Irwin: Hello, Jennica! Welcome back to the radio rumpus room that is WFMU.
	1:07pm mark couture: Irwin, has anybody taken you on your challenge to explore the changing definitions of "jazz" over the decades? If not I might look into it.
	1:08pm -жеи: I wish I could find out what the winning word was for that down beat ad-contest...
	1:08pm Irwin: No one has, Mark. Please take on the project.
	1:09pm mark couture: OK!
	1:10pm Irwin: Great bass on this session by Carol Kaye.
	👻 1:11pm Jennica: Thank you, Irwin. @lonely: Twilight? Hallucinate?
	1:11pm Handy Haversack: -жеи: "Crewcut": tedgioia.substack.com... (h/t) love2laf)
	👻 1:11pm Listening Out There: BBC World Service said it was going to air a piece on Carol Kaye, but I have not tracked it down. Must do this...one o' these days...
	1:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'I'm only sleeping.' - brother John
	1:12pm Irwin: Any Carol Kaye session has great bass.
	👻 1:12pm Listening Out There: Oh. It's here. 27 minutes, it says: www.bbc.co.uk...
	1:12pm Irwin: "Colonnaded ruins domino."
	1:12pm Carmichael: Here's your answer, Ken: "In the late ‘40s, jazz seemed to be losing its cohesion. As the big band era ebbed and swing stars were dismissed as “has-beens,” tradition and modernism fought for the privilege of defining jazz. Even the word “jazz” seemed curiously passâ€š to some. So in July 1949 DownBeat took it upon itself to announce a contest for the best word to replace “jazz.” The magazine offered to pay $1,000 in cash to the person “who coins a new word to describe the music from dixieland through bop,” the headline said. Second and third prizes included the services of Charlie Barnet’s orchestra and the Nat Cole Trio for one night in one’s home. Even Norman Granz, whose Jazz at the Philharmonic tours were keeping a mass market interested in jazz, contributed $400 worth of prizes. In November came the word that the panel of judges deemed preferable to jazz: crewcut. Other alternatives included jarb, freestyle, mesmerrhythm, bix-e-bop, blip, schmoosic, and other equally contrived specimens."
	1:13pm Irwin: Sorry, "columnated," not colonnaded.
	1:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never did get why Syd, Roky & Skip are Gawds of DamagePsych & Smile was always characterized as undistinguished Failure.
	1:14pm Handy Haversack: Looking forward to three hours of bix-e-bop Wednesday morning.
	1:14pm Irwin: I used to hear "colonnaded" and had no idea what that line meant. Then had to admit I don't understand any of VDP's lyrics on "Surf's Up."
	1:14pm Ike: As much as I love WFMU, one of the things I'll never understand is the long-standing penchant for Beach Boys demos. How can this possibly be entertaining? [insert Simpsons "old man yells at cloud" meme of choice here]
	1:15pm Irwin: Ike: You didn't have to be there. The stuff sounds like magic to many. Count me in.
	1:18pm Irwin: Any insight into Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic arrangements and instrumentation is always fascinating. He heard things differently than most musician/arrangers.
	1:18pm Carmichael: Count Me In was the name of a drummer doc I recently saw. Pretty decent and educational for non-drummer me.
	1:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Isolate tracks & deconstruct some things - & the thing falls apart. The Pet Sounds Sessions box is like walking around & being with Columnated ruins of the ancient & noble Parthenon previously only seen in Two Dimensions... I often prefer Demos to Productions in - I'd suggest - just the same way I find Sketches often more interesting - & even satisfying - than completed Paintings.
	1:18pm coelacanth∅: i'll just stay here in the middle, where it's safe
	👻 1:20pm Listening Out There: Tony Williamsing
	1:20pm f0f0 (: Ike, For me it's hearing the insights of geniuses at work. But don't get me started with Ken's obsession with Dylan's demos. Joking Ken. those are great too!
	1:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...as for whether or not TheBeachBoys are Kewl - Yes & No & No & Yes. BrianWilson - 1 TheseTimes - 0
	1:21pm f0f0 (: Also, hi.
	1:22pm blujacket: good morning from vancouver, hell of a show so far...
	1:22pm Handy Haversack: ¡Hola, f0f0! Dos vezes en una semana -- ¡que milagro!
	1:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah honestly - how much of what BrianWilson or TheBeatles were doing in the Studio in the 1960s do I wanna know about? How about Everything.
	1:23pm Hubig Pie: Term for Miles Davis' music- Some good chit, yo
	1:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - same with Dylan Writing or Hendrix Improvising (or ...doing anything). Gimme the full PhilSchapp for each of 'em.
	1:24pm f0f0 (: Hola, Handy! Mi huevo amigo
	1:26pm coelacanth∅: in many cases i like the demos or unfinished versions of beach boys songs better than the final product. less of mike love's singing; less of Brian Wilson's singing; sometimes no singing at all; less overproduction. in some cases it's the only version i like.
	1:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sure but - the Vocals Only disc in the PetSoundsSession box ?? Sing a bit did the BeachBoys.
	1:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& of course with BrianWilson - all this Arranging & Producing was IN HIS HEAD & nowhere else.
	1:32pm coelacanth∅: their harmonies are elementary, for the most part. and Brian's singing often makes me cringe. ...and the idea that he's "genius"? - what's genius? technically (as a psychology term) it means nothing. and in practical terms, Brian's up there with the top maybe 1000 musical geniuses. possibly. ... there's limitless genius in the musical world, and most of it never gets called genius.
	1:34pm coelacanth∅: ...(but that's just another of my unfashionable opinions in wfmuland)
	1:34pm the lonely phillip: Love the jazzy sounds! Relaxing. Forgetting my troubles
	1:37pm rx scabin: I know that I am supposed to like the Beach Boys.
	1:38pm desi: oK checking in pastrami aging hippie?
	1:38pm aging hippie∅: don't eat the pastrami AT ALL, Maaan
	1:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Brian is not a Lyricist per se - TheBeachBoys bear the stamp of being a Pre-Dylan act. & all that implies in terms of 'Kewl' Rawk Culture. But - PetSounds is about exactly that: the Loss of Innocence - not just of Coming of Age - but of the mid1960s itself for the whole Culture - indeed the entire Modernist mid20thCentury. So ...I think this is the problem a lot of people have with them. Their Harmonies were based on the Four Freshmen where everybody else did two-part harmony based on the EverlyBrothers. Which Brian applied in another way entirely. Isn't all Rawk~Pop 'elementary' ?? so - I 'cringe' @ such critiques of such Genres reflexively... It's like TrumanCapote saying Kerouac was just Typing - or Sinatra saying Rawk was awful Swing. Correct on one hand - looking in entirely the wrong place on the other. Which we all do about one or the other...
	1:39pm desi: loL no nitrates @1:38 aging
	1:39pm Irwin: Strausbaugh/Patterson book launch: citylore.org...
	1:40pm desi: cool ty 4 the music & launch info
	1:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: one thing... That is - I suspect people just not liking TheBeachBoys & where they take them is understandable. Denying BrianWilson is a Genius is willfully petty. & people think they're the same thing.
	1:42pm Re6ecca: I have earwax buildup in one ear, any tricks beside doctor to get rid of it? Peroxide taking for ever to work. Still can't hear so well.
	1:43pm HyperDose: You know it's a good day when you come home to Irwin on your "radio"
	1:45pm Irwin: So many Beach Boys recordings of the late 1960s DO NOT SOUND LIKE THE LATE '60s. Brian ignored so many period cliches. Check out the drum patterns on a lot of those songs. There's often no rock beat per se. He's using the kit as a percussion section.
	1:45pm Hubig Pie: This sounds like Air maybe Boards of Canada ?
	👻 1:45pm rrg: Something called "Debrox" is supposed to help with that.
	1:45pm Irwin: Brian often didn't "arrange" -- he orchestrated.
	1:46pm Picante Mint (from Dayton): Re6ecca I had a completely clogged ear for two weeks. CVS minute clinic recommended using ear drops with carbamide peroxide 6.5%. Most pharmacies should have a generic version of it. I did drops 3 times a day in both ears and used cotton balls for 10 minutes after. After a week I used an ear flush with warm water and it cleared it all up.
	1:49pm coelacanth∅: there's nothing petty about a decision which is the culmination of decades'worth of thinking, and it's arrogant to suggest that. i've listened to every beach boys track that's commercially available. many of them many times. the only thing i have working against my judgement is that i didn't hear it when it was first created, in the context of other music at the time. but this applies to all music from that time; and it's easy to see the brilliance in many musicians. and easy to hear the sophistication in the harmonies of, for example, the beatles, the zombies, peter paul & mary ... that does not exist in the beach boys.
	1:49pm Hubig Pie: Debrox ™ and pointing the shower head directly into ear canal might help but nothing beats the doctor
	1:50pm Ike: Aging hippies? Didn't you hear Fabio's show yesterday, Irwin? We apparently aren't plagued by aging hippies, or dirty hippies, or aging dirty hippies anymore. Now it's all about journeymen. Or at least guys who drive Fabio crazy by talking about "going on a journey, man!" But let's call them journeymen for short.
	1:51pm coelacanth∅: and i don't hate the beach boys, for the record. i just can't stand about 1/2 their music. that leaves quite a lot of music that i do like.
	1:53pm Kotzwinkled: Wow Mitchell and Webb's Back! I forgot to ever watch the second season, even though they can do no wrong in my book.
	1:54pm Irwin: Kotz: Ye shall be richly rewarded.
	1:55pm kham: "Are we the baddies?"
	1:55pm egould: Cringe!
	1:55pm Kotzwinkled: Hell yeah. It's time to Watch Back Better.
	1:55pm ben shapiro: imma give kenny boy $10 000 to get my name on wfmu transmitter
	1:57pm Michael: Mitchell and Webb's Peep Show was brilliant.
	1:59pm bill OHARA: its wonderful io hear your program again .
	2:00pm Laura L: Well, I'm late this week again!
	2:00pm Kotzwinkled: GODDAMN DAVE HILL
	2:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ok sure. Ask PaulMcCartney & GeorgeMartin about BrianWilson & TheBeachBoys. & PeteTownshend. & a few other people. Or not. It's a (superficially & consistently less) Free (crypto-oligarchy that proclaims Democracy & is a Republic on paper) Country. The BeachBoys have bad vocals ...next.
	2:05pm Hubig Pie: It was Goddamit Dave Hill that introduced me to that Patsy Cline classic- 3 Cigarettes inna Ashtray
	2:07pm KevinfromBayRidge: Hello all. Nice to be listening to the Mothership. Glad the Gray Pastrami is remaining in the GI, Irwin! Goddamnnnnnn.
	2:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jesus was Way Kewl ...he could play gittar better than DaveHill - & arrange better than BrianWilson...
	2:07pm HyperDose: Jesus knew how to party, man
	2:09pm tom tom the pipers son: somewhere i got the notion that dave hill did the opening music for the john oliver show. is that true?
	2:10pm Re6ecca: @HubigPie. Thanks! Will try that instead when I get back from vacation. They don't have it here! Pharmacy gave me a 10 day treatment in the meantime!
	👻 2:12pm DjLorraine: Haha Oops i almost thought Welcome to Jungle was gonna happen
	2:12pm rx scabin: @Re6ecca a change of diet can prevent it.
	2:12pm Hubig Pie: Tarragon drizzle sounds delish on fish. If outta tarragon , substitute chervil. Good luck with the earses Re6ecca, I suffer from that malady too.
	2:12pm coelacanth∅: RR, yes, i'm not as qualified to an informed opinion as Macca or Martin. because they're famous. that's along the same lines as those who say musicians should stay out of politics because they're just musicians so they don't know anything. ...and Macca and Martin on no occasion had terrible judgement, after all. next.
	2:12pm HyperDose: @Tom "The theme song turns out to be "Go" by Valley Lodge, a power pop quintet based in New York. It is off their third self-released album, Use Your Weapons (2013)" www.youtube.com...
	2:12pm efd: @tom tom For a while (not sure if it still is), the theme song for Jon Oliver's show was "Go" by Dave Hill's band Valley Lodge.
	2:13pm efd: oh, hi Irwin!
	2:14pm Stevel: efd: Isn't it getting close to your bedtime? #morninghero
	2:14pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks hyper, efd!
	2:15pm efd: @Stevel I took a little nap when I got home. Still feeling out of sorts, though. I don't know how Clay does it!
	2:15pm joe mulligan: I'd imagine the new word for jazz turned out to be "cool jazz" but crewcut sounds interesting too
	2:16pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Yeah, I miss Dave and pedal talk.
	2:17pm Stevel: efd: WHen I was a news photographer, occasionally I'd get called out in the middle of the night. Take about 3 hours to cover the scene and get the pictures done (run film/download, etc.) No matter how much you slept after coming back home, the day was like walking underwater.
	2:18pm Irwin: Hullo, Dr. Davies, a.k.a. Fysician of Funk.
	2:19pm efd: @Stevel That describes the situation pretty well.
	2:22pm WM: Thanks for the Don Pullen.
	2:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @coela: & of course Macca & Martin also had the odd Creative success we might point to - in exactly these areas. In fact, I use them because you compared TheBeatles favorably to Brian & the BBoys vocally. Of course - BrianWilson had to be both Macca & Martin for himself, essentially. & - I will grant you this: TheBeatles were never statice with Arrangements - or anything. Whereas Brian arguably (or not) peaked in 1966. In fact - I did grant you that already in a sense.
	2:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...also - I am now & then surprised how many others besides the BeachBoys in the 1960s (& therefore afterwords) did also arrange vocals beyond two parts. & remarkably well. But generally after them.
	2:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *static
	2:28pm Carmichael: Rawlinson End! Knew this from the opening bars!
	2:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but maybe TheBeatles peaked in 1966 too. & other things besides.
	2:28pm JG: Coalecanth, one other thing you may have working against your judgement is that you have your head up your ass
	2:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Ad hominem.
	2:29pm Irwin: WM: Don Pullen - like Sun Ra and Jaki Byard - play like they swallowed an Encyclopedia of 20th C Jazz Piano.
	👻 2:30pm G: Such great track choices. Is this where we use the verb "curate"? :-)
	2:34pm egould: Poised over her sherry like a mantis… Brilliant!
	2:35pm The Oscar: Busy working, but loving this Viv! Somewhere I still have a bootleg VHS of his Rawlinson End movie.
	2:35pm Rick from SC: I just picked up my son from the coffee shop where he works and the first thing he tells me is that the coach of St. Peters basketball came in the store and my son, who is autistic, asks him if he knows WFMU. He says yes. End of conversation. Hilarious. My son knows a lot about WFMU b/c it is on most of the time.
	2:35pm Stevel: "I knew she carried a snorkel in her handbag, but...would she use it?" I'm dying here!
	2:37pm tom tom the pipers son: @rrn63 have you heard sweet and bitter from the sunflower boxed set? pretty good unreleased song. don't know brian wilson s involvement. went to a signing session with brian wilson back in 2000 and when i got up to him i cried like a baby
	👻 2:37pm G: For another great Keith Emerson player, see several Rachel Flowers vids on the YT, and also her own compositional work on CD etc. (She happens to be sightless, BTW.)
	2:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @tom tom: Giant boxed sets are usually financially inaccessible to me lately. :) But I describe that whole period as the BeachBoys doing for several albums what TheBeatles got to only on AbbeyRoad (their last Studio effort). & nobody cared it seems.
	2:40pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: I love this song. Working for assholes really does suck, I’ve been there. I’m sure many of us have.
	2:40pm coelacanth∅: RR you've decided that my saying their harmonies were elementary means i think their vocals are "bad". this isn't the case. their vocals are perfect. i can't imagine anyone denying that. but as you said, influenced by the four freshmen. very straight-forward. barber shop quartet-like. in my opinion, not interesting. ...and mike's and Brian's voices making me cringe is subjective. how it affects me and i never said otherwise. if they had looked to folk songs being sung by people we'll never know the names of in the blue ridge mountain (for example) they'd have found more complex harmonies to incorporate into theirs.
	2:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fair enuff :)
	2:41pm Michael 98145: what JetBoy just said
	2:41pm tom tom the pipers son: sweet and bitter and pretty much all of the sunflower boxed set is on youtube
	2:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...we needn't elaborate / deliberate on the MikeLove factor I don't think...
	2:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: tom tom - oh yeah probly right.
	2:45pm coelacanth∅: heh... but it worked for the early songs
	2:45pm unpopularfred: Mike Garson played keys with Mr. Bowie for many years
	2:45pm Howard & the Cats: I love the Rawlinson End movie!!!
	👻 2:46pm DjLorraine: Rick from SC i LOVE that mini-story at 2:35
	2:47pm Irwin: Bryce update: www.gofundme.com...
	2:48pm P-90: “I don’t know if he’ll be back in THIS slot…” What, is Irwin now calling dibs on Friday afternoons?
	2:48pm P-90: … I guess ownership is nine tenths of the law, as they say
	2:50pm Michael 98145: glad so many came forward to support Bryce
	2:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hearing BigStar 'Fell In Love With a Girl' back somewhere...
	2:51pm Listener Robert: Wasn't "jazz" replaced by "fuck"? I had no idea Down Beat was instrumental in popularizing that term.
	2:51pm luka: does anyone know for sure if Mona's on tonight? she very much appeared to be in Ireland...
	2:54pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Mona is supposed to be on tonight!
	2:54pm rx scabin: Dinner is prepped, and Martini time approaches.
	2:55pm Robm: @luka as of 255 mona will be on
	👻 2:55pm 12539: Thank you very kindly, Irwin.
	👻 2:55pm rrg: Good show, old chap! I'll be back for another one, and I'll betcha most of these other people will be too.
	2:56pm spodiodi: thanks, Irwin!
	2:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ MC IC ~
	2:56pm Irwin: Thank you, rrg. And all season ticketholders.
	2:57pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks, irwin, fun show
	2:57pm Binky: Nifty programming, Irwin! Made quick work of my work day - yay!
	2:57pm chresti: Thanks Irwin! Hi spodi\\//
	2:57pm Robm: Will have to catch thecrest of this on the archives later
	2:57pm love2laf: Thanks for a great show Irwin, great afternoon thanks to you. Off to do some chorin'
	2:57pm StringOFperils: Thanks!
	2:57pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin--yes, same time next week... and archives to catch up for the tardy tune in.
	2:57pm Irwin: BINKY!!!! Give the bear a hug for me.
	2:57pm JetBoy of Brooklyn: Yes, great show and many thanks.
	2:57pm rx scabin: Thank you, Irwin. I enjoy your show.
	2:57pm Picante Mint: Wonderful show today. Happy Friday all.
	👻 2:57pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Irwin! Rockin' hard as, as, um.....
	2:57pm Rick from SC: @dj Lorraine. Thanks
	2:58pm Michael 98145: nitrate-free
	👻 2:59pm G: Aww, it's over. But Sheila is super listenable, too :-)
	2:59pm spodiodi: hi/bye chresti!\\//
	2:59pm Undead83: Another great installment that deserves to be re-listened
	2:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Irwin! Thanks for not kicking me off the board! and for not saying i have my head up my ass if my opinion doesn't coincide with yours
	👻 3:00pm Jennica: Outstanding show. Thank you again, Irwin.
	👻 3:00pm G: @coel: Freedom's a wonderful thing when you use it well.
	3:01pm Irwin: coel: WTF?? Never kicked you off. Maybe some admin. No blame here.
	3:03pm coelacanth∅: Irwin - for NOT kicking me off! (no sarcasm)
	3:06pm Irwin: You've never said anything I object to, and even if you did, I'm a free speech advocate. At any rate, thanks for your contributions each week to the comments. Tally ho!
	3:09pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Irwin!
	8:17am Irwin: Show tagline from Lake Chaubunagungamaug.

Irwin Chusid: Playlist from July 8, 2022

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