WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from December 11, 2022

Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am DJpeterDE: Good morning! Has everyone done their stretching? Marathon today
	♥ 9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	♥ 9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Holy crap! It`s snowing again.
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: I plan on stretching quite a bit. Good morn, @DJperterDE, and good morn, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:03am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am Sem: Hello, Jeff the G, and D:O folk.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am hyde: hello!
	♥ 9:04am Andrew in Toronto: Hi Sem!
	♥ 9:05am Andrew in Toronto: Hello hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:05am WR: I'm good with grey days as long as it isn't raining. Hi Jeff and drummer streamers.
	🦀 ♥ 9:05am hyde: @AiT hello! 40%chance of snow showers here in Boston today. the gf went to the store yesterday and it was mobbed like there was a huge blizzard coming
	♥ 9:06am Andrew in Toronto: @hyde Yikes!
	♥ 9:07am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @listener james from westwood! Hello, @Sem! Wassup, @hyde! Good to see ya, @WR!
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am hyde: @Ait it's Boston, so you'd think that people would realize it snows here sometimes in the winter. but i guess not
	🦀 ♥ 9:09am Sem: TO Andrew, greets!
	♥ 9:09am TDK60: Good morning, DJ Jeff.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: How the heck are ya, @TDK60!
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am WR: Not to complicate the day too much, but just in case other Ryuichi Sakamoto fan-atics are reading and happen to not know of the Sakamoto recorded performance being streamed today at 10AM and 4PM ET: special.musicslash.jp... $$$ trigger alert, it costs $30. Otherwise lots of info there of what music-wise has been going on with Sakamoto for the last year or so and what is going on now and near future,
	♥ 9:12am Andrew in Toronto: Hi TDK60!
	♥ 9:12am StringOFperils: Frozen water, it's just a change of state. And yes, there IS art after Impressionism, so deal with it, and of course there IS Destination:OUT. So...let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
	♥ 9:13am Andrew in Toronto: Hiya String!
	9:13am Listener Gregory: Greetings from the shower, all. I was going to listen to the entire show here, but five hours is just too much!
	♥ 9:13am StringOFperils: Andrew...wink
	♥ 9:14am Andrew in Toronto: @Jeff, Can we please have a show dedicated to the still alive Sonny Rollins?
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StrongOFperils! Greets, clean @Listener Gregory! @Andrew in Tonronto - a tremendous idea. Let me think on that.
	♥ 9:19am TDK60: Hello Andrew in Toronto. // Don't think you wanna know how the heck I really am, DJ Jeff. But right now, okay with coffee and freeforminternetradio.
	🦀 ♥ 9:22am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and Ds of the O. This Jeff Parker is just the music to set the mood for a good game of Eschaton.
	9:23am Listener Gregory: A friend designed an Enfield Tennis Academy sweatshirt and gave me one. Nice!
	🦀 ♥ 9:27am hyde: @LG does it have footnotes
	♥ 9:27am Andrew in Toronto: Hi adamdoesit!
	🦀 ♥ 9:28am Stork: Greetings Outies, in here and Out there! Advance thanks to Jeff and Julie for filling in at the Club today!! Loving this Jeff Parker!
	9:28am Alan R: I'm trying to sync my nose sniffle sounds with the rhythms of the music. Tis the season. At least, the days are warm here. Onward to your 5 hours.
	♥ 9:28am Jeff Golick: Stream papa @adamdoesit! What is Eschaton? That is cool, @LG. And @WR @9:11, that Sakamoto thing also looks cool!
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am hyde: just now realizing this is a 5 hour show. awesome, i'll be stuck in my Covid isolation room for most of today. my luck finally ran out
	9:30am Listener Gregory: @hyde, ha! No, but it does say “established y.d.a.u.”
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am Stork: A rapid recovery to you, hyde!
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Oh no, @hyde! Sorry to hear that. I am starting to rethink attending some holiday gatherings coming up this week.
	♥ 9:32am Jeff Golick: And hola, @Alan R -- sorry to hear of your sniffles, too. The season, indeed.
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: And Herr @Stork! Thanks for checking in, and for letting me borrow a couple hours at the Club today.
	♥ 9:33am TDK60: Good luck, Hyde. I just got over the virus. Not too bad, I figure due to some boosters.
	9:33am Listener Gregory: I didn’t care for Parker’s previous album, but this is quite good. @hyde, Oy!
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am hyde: Thanks Stork, TDK & JG. it wasn't so bad, just felt mildly poor for a couple days. now i'm just in iso so i don't give it to the gf. frankly for the pandemic i went back to work and public transportation as soon as i could, and honestly haven't worn a mask in months while going out to eat, to rock shows etc. i'm a cavalier you-have-to-live-in-the-world-where-you-can-catch-stuff guy. it was going to happen eventually shrug
	♥ 9:36am Andrew in Toronto: Het better soon hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am adamdoesit: Jeff G, Eschaton is a game about international relations and nuclear armageddon played by the young inmates of the Enfield Tennis Academy in the heavily-footnoted* David Foster Wallis novel Infinite Jest. Personal trivia: I named my kitty cat after one of the players. * lol Hyde
	🦀 ♥ 9:37am hyde: thanks AiT! mostly i do already
	♥ 9:37am Jeff Golick: Oh, damn, thanks, @adamdoesit. I am not ashamed to say that I flamed out of that book somewhere between page 100 and 200 some years (decades?) ago.
	🦀 ♥ 9:38am Sem: Love the entire Eschaton section of Infinite Jest.
	🦀 ♥ 9:39am Sem: @adamdoesit: on the third time thru IJ I avoided the footnotes. Read them only, later.
	♥ 9:39am TDK60: I still wear a mask in most indoor places, even crowded sidewalks. Uncrowded outdoor areas, no.
	♥ 9:41am StringOFperils: Dave's eschatology didn't serve him so well as words did; guess that' happens when reality becomes an infinite jest.
	♥ 9:41am Andrew in Toronto: Hi adamdoesit!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am Sem: Touché, SoP.
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am doctorjazz: It's Destination Out...Out...Out...Out...Out...Out...
	🦀 ♥ 9:46am adamdoesit: Jeff G, no shame in that. The recovery section took me down. I wasn't ready to face it. Sem, good plan. And, yeah, the Eschaton section was my favorite, for being the funniest. SOp, I wish DFW had stuck around to write about the Trump and plague years, but I'm not sure he'd have fared well. AiT, hi!
	🦀 ♥ 9:47am fred: The Decemberists did a cool video based on Eschaton: www.youtube.com...
	♥ 9:47am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz, good morning! @fred, good afternoon! (How go the football celebrations around your way?)
	🦀 ♥ 9:48am doctorjazz: Hi Andrew!
	♥ 9:48am Andrew in Toronto: Hey doc! How was the house gig?
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Other books that have defeated me: Gravity's Rainbow The Brothers Karamazov Under the Volcano ... etc.
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am fred: Not a peep, it's been weirdly silent in my neighborhood. I only learned today that France won, from WFMU of all places
	9:51am Listener Gregory: Jeff @9:37, shame!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am hyde: i confess to loving giant, sprawling ridiculously long novels. bring on the Darconville's Cats and Palinuros of Mexico, i say
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: I did just finish a very good book by Hernan Diaz called IN THE DISTANCE. (His latest, TRUST, is showing up on all the end-of-year lists.)
	♥ 9:54am Jeff Golick: @hyde, I'm a big fan of small books.
	🦀 ♥ 9:55am fred: It took me twenty+ years to make it through Finnegan's Wake. Worth it? Not sure
	♥ 9:55am TDK60: Jeff G- I tried Jean-Paul Sartre's 'Being and Nothingness' once. After the first few pages I just laughed and halted. Way above my head.
	🦀 ♥ 9:56am DJpeterDE: Andrew: just for you, I've reposted my Sonny Rollins 91st birthday show. (It's not 100% Rollins but what's there is cherce.) www.mixcloud.com...
	🦀 ♥ 9:56am hyde: @JG let's meet in the middle and just agree that books are good!
	9:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ Good Sunday FMUvianz ~
	🦀 ♥ 9:57am DJpeterDE: I recently read Sam Greenlee's The Spook Who Sat By The Door, which I wouldn't have known of but for the Destination Out blog featuring Herbie Hancock's score (for the film adaptation) back in the day!
	♥ 9:57am Jeff Golick: @hyde: :::mimes fists bump:::
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! @DJpeter, that's so cool. How was the book? I haven't read it. And I have the film in one queue or another...
	🦀 ♥ 9:58am duke: Hello D:Oers
	♥ 9:59am Jeff Golick: Hi there, @duke!
	🦀 ♥ 9:59am fred: Bye, I'm off to the Sakamoto show
	♥ 10:00am Jeff Golick: Enjoy, @fred! See you next time...
	🦀 ♥ 10:01am doctorjazz: Andrew, the House Concert was great! Yuka C. Honda, Nels Cline with Chris Lightcap, The Autumn Defense. (as a bonus, my wife came, and sat through the Yuka C. Honda set, much like what's playing now, and actually enjoyed it. I've been a bad influence...)
	🦀 ♥ 10:02am DJpeterDE: @Jeff the film is amazing, I’ll be teaching it in the spring in my grad seminar “race and cinema.” The film hews closely to the book. The novel has a very dry and compelling voice. Fits the protagonist: thoughtful, but angry.
	♥ 10:03am Jeff Golick: Race and cinema! I would like to take that course.
	🦀 ♥ 10:05am DJpeterDE: I’m enjoying the process of assembling the syllabus. Of course working in the syllabus is a great way to avoid grading the current semester.
	🦀 ♥ 10:05am doctorjazz: Chris Lightcap is a monster stand up bass player (he played electric in a jam at the end). (drop out there). I did have to drive 3 and a half hours (both ways), but it was worth the trip)
	♥ 10:05am Andrew in Toronto: doc, I think I`ve been a bad influence as well!
	♥ 10:07am StringOFperils: No shortage of great books that can leave the reader to die on his/her their shield. I'm getting too old to worry about it...although I'd still like to finish John Barth's 'Giles Goat-Boy' one of these days. (Under The Volcano is quite a bummer, btw, but much more a great thing than the film.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:08am DJpeterDE: Very much looking forward to what my smart students (a mix of historians and material culture students) will say about this book: www.dukeupress.edu...
	10:09am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, what is this house concert you speak of?
	🦀 ♥ 10:09am doctorjazz: From back when David Murray was releasing an album a week-have a bunch of them, didn't get this one, lovely track!
	♥ 10:10am Andrew in Toronto: @DJpeterDE That`s a pretty touchy subject.
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am Listener Gregory: I have a huge trove of David Murray records, yet Jeff uncovers new ones that I've never heard of all the time. How is this possible? (i.e., what doctorj just said)
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am DJpeterDE: Never in a million years would I have expected David Murray to interpret Claude Thornhill
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: It's a weird one, this Murray! Not essential, I would say.
	🦀 ♥ 10:11am DJpeterDE: andrew: touchy subjects make for good seminars!
	🦀 ♥ 10:11am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am Listener Gregory: Beautiful nonetheless.
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am adamdoesit: A couple years ago, I made a summer project of reading Gravity's Rainbow. At a certain point, something about its langauge snapped into focus and I could just read it, instead of wading through it like deep mud. Very satisfying. Right now, I'm working my way through War and Peace, which turns out to be beautifully observed, and divided into nice short chapters, convenient for titrating through sleepless nights.
	♥ 10:12am Andrew in Toronto: DJpeterDE: I agree!
	♥ 10:13am StringOFperils: @CJpeter > No shortage of racism or sexism in early animation, later animation, and recent animation. And having spent considerable time within a sector of that industry, I'd also posit that, on the inside, it demonstrates features of grass-roots fascism, and an eagerness to return to slavery/subjugation of other people.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am Listener Gregory: @adamdoesit, I have some excellent advice for those who want to (re)try Gravity's Rainbow and Ulysses, as I did last year: Retirement.
	🦀 ♥ 10:14am doctorjazz: LG, I have a friend in the Philly area who's gotten to be friends with a few members of Wilco. He used to put on a House concert every December, pre-pandemic (the last one was 4 years ago). Was a very eclectic mix; computer-generated improv, a guitar/bass duo in the mold of Jim Hall/Ron carter Duo, and soft/country rock. Yuka C. Honda, Nels Cline with Chris Lightcap, The Autumn Defense (hoping I'll get a recording of it in the not too distant future)
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am adamdoesit: LG, ha! Something to look foward to, kinda.
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, that sounds awesome.
	🦀 ♥ 10:19am Listener Gregory: Jeff, my family is definitely going to look forward to spending Christmas morning with you and the show.
	🦀 ♥ 10:20am DJpeterDE: String: would love to hear more about your experiences in that industry! What did you do?
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am Andrew Waterloo: I'm reading Billy Braggs book Roots and Radicals. Also, this thing called the Meritocracy Trap which is fascinating but incredibly dense.
	🦀 ♥ 10:24am DJpeterDE: I love the sound they got at Barigozzi studio. (Haven’t made a study of it)
	♥ 10:25am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Andrew Waterloo! I've heard the Meritocracy Trap come up a few times lately.
	♥ 10:26am Jeff Golick: (I have Meritocracy Trap in my Audible library, too, as yet unheard.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am DJpeterDE: String: the Sammond book talks a lot about the organization of labor in animation, relating it to the depictions onscreen
	10:30am mic_a: Argh! I'm missing a load of book talk, and I'm still too tied up to catch it all. Ulysses -- it's important to not read it too soon in life. I tried when I was about 20 and didn't get far at all. Went straight through on a second attempt in my mid-30s. You need that much age to appreciate the rich melancholy of life it embodies. Had a second reading, in the internet age, via one of those page-a-day blogs. Very useful. Read Gravity's Rainbow the first time, also mid-30s. Never have been able to understand all the whining people have over it. Not hard, just roll with it. Second reading in the 2000s was one of my peak reading experiences -- though the availability, by then, of online annotations was a great help in sorting out the actual history and Pynchon's embellishments. Hi Jeff and everyone!
	🦀 ♥ 10:31am doctorjazz: Another drop out on my end.
	♥ 10:32am Andrew in Toronto: Me too.
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am doctorjazz: (I think there are more drop outs on the stream recently than I recall previously)
	10:32am mic_a: Going to be starting Olga Tokarczuk's Books Of Jacob within a week or so. That should take me through the heart of winter.
	♥ 10:33am Jeff Golick: Yo, @mic_a! Yeah the dropouts are via playback -- not an internet issue. I tried messing with the software -- I think it could be a latency issue? -- but I really don't know. Sorry about that; frustrating.
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: @mic_a - That Tokarczuk looks amazing. I have a cousin who is an academic who was raving about it.
	🦀 ♥ 10:35am doctorjazz: Coral sounds great over headphones (which I'm using until fam wakes up)
	♥ 10:35am StringOFperils: @DJ peter > If you want , you can email me about it. I don't want to say anything further in here...it would sound paranoid to say that if the 'right' persons were to figure out who this is, they might come for me. someone physically grabbed me on the street several years ago, and it was about as disturbing as it was meant to be. Nothing, like opinions for instance, will stand in the way of that industry's ideas about labour, or the kindly face it presents to the public, or to its 'clients', PBS/WGBH being foremost among them
	♥ 10:36am StringOFperils: ...and right there I just opened up a door to whole world of pain
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: Oof that does sound disturbing, @StringOFperils. Sorry about that.
	🦀 ♥ 10:38am doctorjazz: Oy, SoP, sounds awful, sorry as well!
	♥ 10:39am StringOFperils: Elon Musk's utterations re. labour are not thematically new to me in any way
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am doctorjazz: Cool Set!!!
	10:40am mic_a: I snagged the extra cool Fitzcarraldo Editions paperback. They also put out The Things We've Seen by Agustín Fernández Mallo, which is a pretty remarkable book itself.
	10:40am Dean: Books, nice. I'm reading Moby Dick, rather, savoring it. Second go-round, with a stalled attempt in-between. Beautiful and intense. I've read Ulysses a couple times, hope to manage a third, but then my early 2020 effort with Finnegans Wake failed due to...guess what. Haven't had an interest in Pynchon, but I would like to read Dos Passos' trilogy. Also need to reread Woolf' To The Lighthouse and later works.
	🦀 ♥ 10:42am doctorjazz: Pedal Steel-took me a bit to figure it out, no?
	♥ 10:42am Jeff Golick: @Dean! I'm going back to the graphic novel (if that's the right word for it) DUCKS this afternoon/evening.
	10:43am mic_a: Moby Dick is the great beat generation novel that the beats never managed to write. 100 years early. I've had a copy of Finnegan's Wake since my teens, but I think that one will never go. I think you need to read it aloud for it to work, and I can't deal with that.
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJpeterDE: @String that is horrifying, thanks for sharing. If you are indeed willing to talk, I will reach out.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am adamdoesit: mic_a, I think you're spot on about Ulysses. Source: I read it too soon. Meanwhile, the strange brew of race, sex, and rocketry that fuels GR feels most relevant today in ways that make its paranoid strains seem maybe not so fantastical. Which is as much to say, I feel you, SOp.
	♥ 10:49am coelacanth∅: Good morning Jeff, OUTies
	♥ 10:49am Jeff Golick: How do, @coelacanth∅!
	🦀 ♥ 10:50am DJpeterDE: @adamdoesit: I see you on Mixcloud! Hope you dig the Rollins show (after D:O is over, of course!)
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am hyde: i loooove Moby Dick
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am adamdoesit: DJpeterDE, thanks for posting that! I look forward to listening. coel, I dreamed the other night that my old Volvo came back to me…
	♥ 10:54am StringOFperils: I can only offer opinions and some insight, DJPeter. Going 'on the record' in any sense would be pure folly. I've considered writing about it myself, but fiction seems like the only place these ideas could live in any way that might be productive. The folks back there are their own prisoners, they are their own guards (to cop a phrase from an old Erik Andersen song)
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am Listener Gregory: Is there any reason this SOS concert couldn't have been played last week in downtown Manhattan? It's as up-to-date as could be. IMHO
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am DJpeterDE: @string: you are being modest, but it occurs to me now that there's no such thing as "expertise," only "opinions and insight"
	♥ 10:55am coelacanth∅: ha, nice,adam! i've been off the 240 wagon for 2-3 years now but i still dream in volvos.
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: Not enough S.O.S. out there, for sure, @LG.
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am DJpeterDE: In other concert news, Seattle has a concert of (excerpts from) Ellington's Sacred Concerts every December, and I'll be going (with my dad) for the first time this year. (Ripping the concerts now for my pre-concert homework.)
	10:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm only Literate in the broadest most charitable senses. I love Kerouac - but relate to him almost like a Rawk Star - having come to him via film & recordings more than anything. I do get the impression that if one is concerned with Jack's spontaneous Beat Prosody ...then one may have to concede Joyce had landed in the hemisphere a bit earlier & no less distinctively... One hears how MobyDick is almost PostModern in Form - whole chapters out of the narrative for scientific exposition ...also read that was cause he was paid by volume :D ...
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am doctorjazz: What LG sait @ 10:54-this predatess the World Sax Quartet, no?
	11:00am mic_a: Pynchon's life-long theme of industry/state vs individual/family is always sadly relevant.
	♥ 11:01am Jeff Golick: That sounds great, @DJpeterDE!
	🦀 ♥ 11:01am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, WSQ formed in 1977 according to the all-knowing Wiki.
	11:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pynchon's titles alone leave me with awe & foreboding. Well - his rep.
	♥ 11:02am coelacanth∅: for the record, SOp i'd read a book about that -especially if it was truth presented in a novel; reality presented in a fantastical situation (à la García Márquez)
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am fred: This Sakamoto show is overwhelming. I'm crying for real
	♥ 11:07am StringOFperils: I reasoned that the technical back-stage of the animation industry, per se, would be profoundly uninteresting and/or impenetrable to the average reader; it needed to be more of a crime thriller, with a chewy meditation on organized intimidation at its heart....and maybe a 'necessary' murder or two...one of those logical extensions of (subjective) reality....if one were to be patient
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am WR: I watched a bit of the Sakamoto before going 0ut shopping. will watch it all the way thru at the next streaming. Pausing in shopping in the cold & light rain to comment on how these raucous tunes are flavoring my interactions with the store clerks.
	11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If 'animation' literally means bringing things to life - ironic then to treat of the opposite...
	♥ 11:09am StringOFperils: I DID feel clapped in irony.
	11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Frankenstein territory perhaps...
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am DJpeterDE: @String, sounds like a good subject for a Michael Chabon novel, actually.
	♥ 11:11am Jeff Golick: Wow, @fred!
	11:11am mic_a: On the non-fiction side. Finishing Dirty Pictures by Brian Doherty. Good underground comics history saddled with a terrible title and cover design. A good job of tracking a whole crowd of artists over decades of change, but oh -- the endless, awkwardly phrased run-on sentences. Even worse than me. And two text editors are credited in the acknowledgements! Finally read my used copy of Ornette Coleman: A Harmolodic Life. Very good. Even after all these years of reading about Ornette, I still learned a lot of new things. And, if you don't mind wading through academic jargon, the two Punk Reader/Global Punk volumes from Intellect Books have some deeply interesting articles -- the reports from Southeast Asia were most fascinating to me.
	🦀 ♥ 11:12am hyde: ok, i have been neglecting my fiction reading lately in favor of non fiction but today's playlist has inspired me to request the new Yoko Tawada novel from the library.
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am hyde: @mic_a oh, i really need to read Finishing Dirty Pictures!
	11:13am mic_a: Kim Deitch's comix about the horrors of animation history could be relevant.
	♥ 11:14am coelacanth∅: well, you would know that as well as i would not; but i'm interested in pretty much everything! - at least the fundamentals of everything. the technicalities of the industry are likely more interesting to me than the animation itself, although yes maybe not in depth. (but maybe) ...having no interest at all in commercial animation would be an understatement. it's more like it generally annoys me, if not disgusts me!
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am hyde: @mic_a i recently took Last Girl Standing by Trina Robbins out from my work library, but haven't gotten to it yet
	♥ 11:16am coelacanth∅: oh i want to read that Ornette book. 'add it to the pile.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am adamdoesit: Moby Dick, for what it's worth, concerns the technical back-stage of some flickering American lights.
	♥ 11:17am StringOFperils: There's an essay about corporations acquiring and programming all media platforms, and the inculcation of 'values' from infancy onward with respect to mass-marketing in there as well. Insidious.
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am fred: I mean, he's dying but still giving
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am Listener Gregory: I am writing a few Xmas cards, and I have lost two different pens while sitting at my desk. Haven't moved. Found both of them, but it is frankly ridiculous.
	🦀 ♥ 11:20am Sem: More book talk, but listening to a book. A dozen chapter into mobdydickbigread.com. Different readers for each chapter, Tilda Swinton kicked it off. A winter listen, if you will. A chapter an evening.
	♥ 11:21am StringOFperils: Reading Moby Dick is immensely rewarding, on the other hand. Both times I read it I remember closing the book and feeling that the whole world was between those boards.
	♥ 11:22am Andrew in Toronto: Hiya coel!
	♥ 11:22am coelacanth∅: yes, StringO. that shit has been obvious to me since i was a kid -evident just by watching. i've never liked most of the tv and big screen crap that my piers were dazzled by -must be at least partially because of that.
	🦀 ♥ 11:22am fred: @Sem: Are you still reading it every year?
	♥ 11:23am coelacanth∅: i think that konjur collective kicked in!
	11:24am mic_a: Hoping everyone has already heard, so I'm not the bad news bearer, but Aline Kominsky-Crumb passed away just a couple of weeks ago. Which was a sad double-hit after Diane Noomin also, a couple of months ago.
	♥ 11:25am coelacanth∅: good morning Andrew!
	🦀 ♥ 11:25am hyde: @mic_a yeah, there go two real giants
	11:25am mic_a: Oh gosh, I've gotta stop this. Maybe catch ya's again in the bonus time.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am Sem: It was a forced march in high school, to read Moby Dick. Not entirely focussed on it, then. fred: no, life intervened. Glad of your recent Whitehead suggestion, satisfaction at a story well told.
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am Listener Gregory: Jeff, I'm guessing that the Webber is Anna, but not sure who the Morris is. If you tell me, I'll write it down if I can find a pen.
	11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I always note : McCoy Tyner shared his chocolate cheesecake with me. He's unique among all Artists in this regard.
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am WR: @11:20 @Sem: oh wow. will book mark that. I've not read any more tgan few pages here and there of MD.
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am hyde: @JG the Bandcamp page for the Konjur Collective says that the drummer shared an unmastered version of that record with Gabriel Jermaine (I guess that's who wrote the blurb, he did the liner notes?) "at the height of the pandemic", so likely Dave Sewelson got it then too somehow
	11:30am WM: Glad you played the Kalaparusha track. I met him a few times when he was busking in the subway. I heard what was probably one of his last gigs at the Knitting Factory (I don't remember when exactly). The BBC made a good documentary about him: Closeness, the untold story of Kalaparusha. You can find it at https://vimeo.com/10997309. Also I think his best recording is Positions 3 6 9 (1978) with Jerome Cooper and Frank Lowe. You can find it on Youtube.
	♥ 11:30am Jeff Golick: @RRN63, beautiful. @LG, Angela Morris with Anna Webber, yes. (Morris had given birth three months before this recent gig I saw!)
	11:30am Miss G: Good morning, this is a drive-by as I have to run, but wanted to put in another good word for Kate Beaton's Ducks. Can be harrowing at times, but I found it a poignant memoir. I sent it to some teacher friends to share it around.
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am DJpeterDE: @LG: Angela Morris angelamorrismusic.com
	♥ 11:31am StringOFperils: This Freddie Hubbard is so lovely. I love this stuff.
	🦀 ♥ 11:31am Listener Gregory: Thx, Jeff and peter! I don't know Angela at all. Will have to check her out.
	🦀 ♥ 11:31am DJpeterDE: @Rev we're all salivating to hear more about Tyner's cheesecake
	♥ 11:32am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that, @WM, and thanks for checking in! And greetings, @Miss G! Yes, harrowing is a good word for how one feels traversing certain parts of that book (and I'm not done yet...).
	11:33am Miss G: Diane Noomin signed my copy of Glitz-2-Go and she was a lovely lady. In 2000 I sat with Bill Griffith at his table at SPX and we had a great conversation. I hate to think of him without her. And R. Crumb without Aline, shakes head It's just life, tho.
	11:34am WM: @mic_a: Some one has posted a reading of a great deal of Finnegan's Wake on Youtube, It's pretty good. I agree that you almost have to read the Wake aloud to appreciate (if not understand) it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:34am WR: Arrived back to the apartment, safely. Jeff, TMI extra thanks that the high energy set was also very good to jig about to, said jigging necessary to cope with the shops not granting restroom privileges to me. Hence my "safely" emphasis.
	♥ 11:37am Jeff Golick: Glad you made it back ok, @WR! McCoy Tyner about 21 years old on that Freddie Hubbard datre.
	♥ 11:38am StringOFperils: Mind blowing.
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am DJpeterDE: McCoy is the “etc” in the album cover… since signed to Impulse (I believe)
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am Listener Gregory: I like how the Night Dreamer cover tell us "Lee Morgan, Reginald Workman, Elvin Jones, etc." Sorry, McCoy!
	♥ 11:41am Jeff Golick: Yeah how about that.
	♥ 11:41am TDK60: Dean, way back an hour ago. I read Dos Passos' USA trilogy. Great read.
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Kick ass band tho.
	11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was when I lived in SantaBarbara - & my higher up @ a CD store I worked @ was kind of my surrogate West Coast big brother - & mentor for all things Straight Ahead Jazz which was his obsession. He got himself a DJ slot on some college radio & ...well, earlier that day in LA - we saw Charlie Haden's Quartet West give an actually Free show. Free as in no charge... then - in another part of town the Tyner Trio was playing - so we went there ! I think with Avery Sharp - just ...one felt like making gestures as people in Islamic prayer do. Two remarkable kinds of Spiritual Food in one day. Frankly, I've never had another day quite like it. Anyhow - my friend's thang as DJ got him backstage after & I tagged ! It's was Tyner's last day in the club - so they gave him a cheesecake. He didn't want it all - so he shared it. In my limited experience - always been struck how these Giants were so often the humblest kindest persons - whereas the local cover band might have attitude ...some have something to prove & some are stratospheres beyond it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:43am Listener Gregory: Maybe some contractual reason? Is that what you're suggesting DJp? I mean, he wasn't a nonentity in 1964.
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am Listener Gregory: @RevRab, I heard Avery Sharpe in a local gig a few months ago, and he was playing very well. And his tone sounded better than I remembered.
	11:45am Miss G: RRN63 what a great story. And what an amazing day of music!
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am fred: @TDK60: I somehow got a first edition of that book. It felt special reading it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:48am doctorjazz: Very cool tale, RRN63. Tyner takes his time on this Ellington in getting the theme out there.
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @RRN63 - what a day and what a memory.
	♥ 11:49am Hams: man, what a show.
	🦀 ♥ 11:49am DJpeterDE: @LG Yes, because he was signed to Impulse, Blue Note would have had to get permission for him to record. And in this case they got permission for him to play, but not for his name to be on the front cover. (It is on the back, I believe).
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: @Hams!
	♥ 11:49am TDK60: Fred: It's a special book to me, due to some of the history portrayed. I read an old hardback (I think '40s) edition. I gave it away.
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am hyde: I don't totally remember, but I saw McCoy Tyner at UMass in the early 80's and I imagine Avery Sharpe was in the band--he plays on that 1981 La Leyenda de La Hora LP, which would have been about when I saw him. Avery Sharpe still works at UMass, I think
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am DJpeterDE: Good to know that not even McCoy Tyner will eat an entire cheesecake. Of course he'd cut it up in fourths instead of thirds. (does that joke even make sense?)
	♥ 11:50am Hams: howdy.
	♥ 11:51am StringOFperils: Cheesecake a la modal
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am DJpeterDE: Indeed listed on back. www.discogs.com...
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am DJpeterDE: @string see, I knew someone else would have a better line!
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am Listener Gregory: @DJp, I'd like to say that those days are over, but a couple of years ago, Bill Frisell and Mary Halvorsen did a duo album for Tzadik, and it had to be put out as a Halvorsen album, with Frisell. It was confusing when you heard it, because it was clearly designed as duets all through. I think his contract with Okeh required that.
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am adamdoesit: Listening to McCoy Tyner on his birthday, while thinking about generosity and chocolate cheesecake. What a terrible way to spend a rainy Sunday.
	♥ 11:53am Jeff Golick: John Gilmore and Thad Jones on this McCoy cut -- how often were those two together?
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am DJpeterDE: @LG yeah it's silly, but glad they didn't stand in the way of the recording!
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am doctorjazz: How often was John Gilmore anywhere that wasn't Ra?
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am DJpeterDE: @Jeff great question so I looked it up: there's a bootleg out there of George Russell at Newport in 1964: plus Steve Swallow, Tootie, Heath, and Sheila Jordan !!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am DJpeterDE: Love Gilmore's session with Paul Bley, and on Blue Note w/ Clifford Jordan!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: @TDK60: I got it cheap, probably from an estate sale. There's a heartfelt note on the first page, back when giving a book was meaningful
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am hyde: @DJPeterDE that is quite the lineup and that Bley/Gilmore record is amazing
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: I have that George Russell on a collection called "Things New" but the CD lists Joe Farrell as the sax player. But Tom Lord says it's John Gilmore! Will listen later to confirm!
	♥ 11:58am Jeff Golick: That Turning Point record (Bley, Gilmore, etc.) is indeed wonderful. A Nels Cline-led group covered the whole album more recently, I think. Not sure if it got an official release.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Sem: Been sweet and swell, Jeff. Thank you. Next time, then.
	🦀 ♥ 12:00pm doctorjazz: The Gilmore/Clifford Jordan I have, great record.
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: Thanks to you, @Sem. Tho fyi I'm not going anywhere just yet - on for another two hours today.
	12:01pm rw: Good morning!
	♥ 12:01pm StringOFperils: It's a Jeff Pentathalon
	♥ 12:02pm Hams: oh, 5 hours! sweet!
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm Listener Gregory: I have to confront the chill to get a couple of miles in, so I have to leave. At least I managed to miss that goddamned flute! Thanks a lot, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 12:04pm doctorjazz: The Nels Cline/Chris Lightcap set last night was reminiscent of Jim Hall/Ron Carter duo-they played a track that duo had performed/recorded. You can hear Hall in some of the chord voicings Cline uses (when he's not playing way out there...)
	🦀 ♥ 12:04pm Listener Gregory: Is Hubbard on this cut too? No trumpet player mentioned on the cover.
	🦀 ♥ 12:05pm DJpeterDE: Correction: "Things New" does list Gilmore but Don Ellis in place of Thad Jones. Also lists Pete La Roca (not Heath). Speaking of La Roca, Vinnie Sperazza's new Substack is fun. Very much influenced by Ethan Iverson's voice, but drummer centric. Just posted on Pete La Roca, and also talks about Paul Motian on Turning Point.
	♥ 12:05pm StringOFperils: Outside time for me too. The dog has to lay down some parts in a session in the park. But you're not going anywhere...brb
	♥ 12:05pm Jeff Golick: Good morning, @rw! Yes, good ears, @LG; tis Hubbard. Take care, @Listener Gregory!
	♥ 12:06pm Jeff Golick: Hope there are no outtakes (??) @SOp. Or...y'know. Happy walking!
	12:08pm Miss G: Thank you Jeff Golick for giving my ears and brain something substantial before I face the hordes (and the jingles, oy.) Thank you DJpeterDE, I found The Spook Who Sat by the Door (1973) with the Herbie Hancock score on my Roku via Movieland. Cheers, all!
	♥ 12:09pm Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @Miss G! Wishing you good luck and fortitude against the hordes.
	🦀 ♥ 12:12pm doctorjazz: Good to know that's on Roku, have to look for that movie.
	🦀 ♥ 12:14pm doctorjazz: Sounded like a Come Sunday quote on that bass end
	12:22pm rw: Jeff, Is it cool if I say one more time, this is so great what you all do with this radio station? Thank you all. And that goes for everyone hanging out here too. What a nice thing this is.
	🦀 ♥ 12:22pm fred: @doc: I'm sure your wife is delighted to have extra hours of D:O
	🦀 ♥ 12:23pm zzz: marathon D:O! happy to come on board just in time for the wonderful solo McCoy— happy birthday and rest in peace to the master. hey JeffG and folks!
	12:23pm rw: Appreciate the extra time this morning!
	12:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Coltrane b. 1926 Year of Fire 🐅Tiger - McCoy Tyner b. 1938 Year of Earth 🐅Tiger
	🦀 ♥ 12:29pm zzz: deep dive in to Tyner’s incredible run of recordings from the 1970s: parts 1 and 2 burningambulance.com... burningambulance.com...
	12:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Firesign <3
	♥ 12:31pm Jeff Golick: @rw! That is cool! Thank you! @zzz! Thanks for those links.
	🦀 ♥ 12:31pm fred: @Jeff: Is your wife recovering well? WFMU and ankles are not getting along well lately
	♥ 12:32pm Jeff Golick: Yes, thanks, @fred. We took a little walk to get coffee yesterday -- longest outing yet.
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm doctorjazz: @Fred, she's at a conference, Zoom, being spared... (besides, she may be becomming a fan-she actually enjoyed a very "out" Yuka C. Honda set last night (which she very easily could have left). The plan is working...)
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm listener james from westwood: Still better than checking into Fawlty Towers.
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm hyde: haha, Firesign Theater. I bought a vinyl copy of Dear Friends at a yard sale awhile back. i used to have all of these records
	12:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& various times there have been 24/7 streams for Goons &/or Firesign (different ones) ...& then not...
	12:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *@
	12:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...SubGenius Hour of Slack is explicit about Firesign being their precedent...
	🦀 ♥ 12:40pm fred: Looks like Doug was staying like right next where I work this week. Totally oblivious, and that might have been his first band in high school
	🦀 ♥ 12:41pm doctorjazz: Glad your sig other is getting better, Jeff!
	12:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Up & about ! Good news.
	♥ 12:43pm Jeff Golick: @fred, whoa.
	♥ 12:46pm Franco Twinkie: Hello!
	♥ 12:47pm Jeff Golick: @Franco Twinkie, hello!
	🦀 ♥ 12:49pm WR: This surely ain't the Stork Club. If it was we would have got hours more of McCoy Tyner. What? No, that isn't my passport.
	♥ 12:49pm coelacanth∅: classic track from a perfect album
	♥ 12:49pm coelacanth∅: 'morning Franco!
	♥ 12:51pm coelacanth∅: Mavis Staples' version is just as good too, it's only flaw being that it's almost the same.
	🦀 ♥ 12:51pm zzz: When you base your life on credit And your loving days are done Checks you signed with love and kisses Later come back signed "insufficient funds" love that lyric
	♥ 12:51pm Franco Twinkie: Good morning Coel. It rained like a motherfucker this morning. Laid in bed, thankful I was inside.
	🦀 ♥ 12:52pm fred: Memories of hiding under sheets with a radio... I'm that old
	♥ 12:52pm Franco Twinkie: Me too, Fred.
	12:53pm CalZone!: Thumbs up Beverly Yakamoto for the Firesign! Shoes for Industry!
	🦀 ♥ 12:53pm doctorjazz: And me t00-my little Sony portable.
	♥ 12:54pm coelacanth∅: Thankful for your rain Franco. it's snowing here. not a lot,probably. i Love it but just focused on not freezing now.
	♥ 12:54pm Jeff Golick: @CalZone! Shoes for industry, indeed.
	♥ 12:54pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Franco!
	🦀 ♥ 12:57pm doctorjazz: Cool Sly!
	🦀 ♥ 12:59pm zzz: docjazz, i know you’re a fan- have you heard the steven bernstein/MTO sly cover album? great version of this with martha wainwright on vocals. whole album is a treat
	🦀 ♥ 12:59pm zzz: but yeah this original is perfect
	🦀 ♥ 1:00pm zzz: *original sly
	🦀 ♥ 1:02pm fred: @zzz: don't tempt doc, he's already trying to block best-of lists
	♥ 1:02pm Franco Twinkie: Haha! Yes Doc, a little Zenith pressed against my ear. Life changing moment: Spring of 1969, I'm in bed with the radio. Mona, by The Quicksilver Messenger Service over KRLA on Jimmy Rabbits show. "What is this!?" Later, next to a swimming pool I discuss it with a friend. He heard it too. Right then an there we vow to see them the next time they come to L.A. We did! And that's when it started rolling....and it's never stopped.
	1:02pm wendy del formaggio: Hey Jeff! I’ve been listening for about an hour. It’s great! Especially this Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway. I love their voices together.
	♥ 1:03pm Michael 98145: Radio Carla !
	♥ 1:03pm Franco Twinkie: Yup!
	🦀 ♥ 1:04pm Stork: Just checking in ever so briefly - wow! now that's what i cal a playlist! Sorry I missed doing McCoy's b-day, but count on you to cover that one, JG! OK, knock it off with the great tunes! I gotta get some work done!!
	🦀 ♥ 1:04pm chresti: Hi Jeff and de OUT clubbers!
	♥ 1:06pm Jeff Golick: @wendy del formaggio! Same same. @Michael 98145, hello! @Stoooork checking IN! Hola, @chresti!
	♥ 1:06pm Andrew in Toronto: Hiya cresti!
	🦀 ♥ 1:07pm doctorjazz: @zzz-I got the recent 4 LP set of music Steve Bernstein released, one other, but not the Sly album. Hmmmm....maybe the record cut-back diet starts tomorrow...
	🦀 ♥ 1:07pm doctorjazz: (Saw Bernstein and MTO at The Falcoln not long ago, great show!)
	🦀 ♥ 1:09pm chresti: Hi Andrew in TO!
	♥ 1:10pm Andrew in Toronto: @doc That`s a very underrated Sly lp!
	♥ 1:11pm Michael 98145: @chresti, FT, sounds like the concrete rivers are getting wet ...
	🦀 ♥ 1:15pm fred: @doc: it always starts tomorrow...
	♥ 1:15pm Franco Twinkie: I have yet to turn on the TV Michael, but tomorrow morning I'm going to my moms house which is next to the Big Dalton Wash. Every year, some foolish kid perished.
	🦀 ♥ 1:16pm chresti: @ Michael, yes overnight it came down, has been tapering off for the day.
	1:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco - faceborg reminded me this morning of something I typed invoking Cipollina for one of Stan's shows : ...to parse the supernatural portals of the subtle but elemental energies - to negotiate the fates like Dr. Strange in interior landscapes of Platonic Form & preternatural energy - which would ripple out & echo like soundwaves of Destiny for all Humankind & Life - @ every level of the Fractal Pattern of Reality & Events ...he realized in that moment of his weakness & confusion that he would need precise awareness & exquisite physical control of his electric guitar tones ...he called upon the spirit of John Cippolini in internal Invocation - & made silent supplication to the great Ancestor Gawds... It was 19 A.M. www.wfmu.org...
	♥ 1:17pm Franco Twinkie: Word,RR.
	🦀 ♥ 1:18pm zzz: this sleigh bells is cool!
	♥ 1:19pm coelacanth∅: funny -i often think of rill rill when i think of compared to what
	🦀 ♥ 1:22pm fred: I l just love when Jeff gets loose
	♥ 1:23pm coelacanth∅: (duh. i meant can you get to that, not compared to what)
	🦀 ♥ 1:23pm chresti: There's always some homeless guy that get's marooned on a little sand island in the LA river when it rains enough.
	♥ 1:23pm StringOFperils: The Clean. Worthy of tribute.
	1:25pm Cletus: Why does everyone there have an issue with the pronunciation of Hamish!? Lol
	🦀 ♥ 1:25pm hyde: alas poor Hamish
	♥ 1:25pm coelacanth∅: so rill rill is considered an interpolation of can you get to that. had no idea, just thought they sounded similar
	♥ 1:26pm Jeff Golick: @Cletus! Help me understand!
	♥ 1:27pm StringOFperils: I watched Hamish Macbeth. I know my Hamish
	1:27pm Cletus: HAY MISH
	♥ 1:28pm Jeff Golick: Ok! Thanks for that, @Cletus.
	🦀 ♥ 1:28pm chresti: Todd said Hay mish
	♥ 1:29pm StringOFperils: Kill Gore, or Kill Gower ? Thoughts?
	🦀 ♥ 1:29pm doctorjazz: I know my Yiddish Hamish... From Colliers Dictionary: Definition of 'haimish' haimish in American English (ˈheɪmɪʃ; ˈhaɪmɪʃ) Yiddish ADJECTIVE having qualities associated with a homelike atmosphere; simple, warm, relaxed, cozy, unpretentious, etc.
	🦀 ♥ 1:29pm chresti: But I've heard it pronounced Ham-ish
	🦀 ♥ 1:30pm doctorjazz: Don't know The Clean, though...
	1:31pm Cletus: @chresti I knew Hamish. He pronounced it HAY MISH. Americans are so damned weird lol
	♥ 1:31pm StringOFperils: Hamish: Scottish. From the Gaelic Sheumais which is a form of James, which is an English form of the Latin Jacomus, from the Hebrew Iakobos, meaning "God protects". So, Jacob, basically?
	♥ 1:33pm Jeff Golick: Sorry for your loss, @Cletus.
	🦀 ♥ 1:34pm doctorjazz: Somehow, I hear If You Could Read My Mind here...
	1:35pm Cletus: @Jeff thank you. It’s a huge loss. He used to crash at my place and was a frequent correspondent. I could see him veering. I am bereft
	♥ 1:36pm alanr: As much as I listen every Sunday for jazz and such, I am truly enjoying this part of today's show as well!!
	1:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HolySmokes ! - the Live version Jesse Jarnow played of 'Point' : www.wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 1:37pm adamdoesit: Same same alanr.
	♥ 1:37pm Franco Twinkie: About three weeks ago a friend was telling me when he saw David Kilgore, Hamish's brother, at a small club in San Francisco. He approached with caution - testy musicians and all. No need to. David gave him ample attention. A good listener too!
	🦀 ♥ 1:38pm doctorjazz: And ditto to adamdoesit and alanr!
	♥ 1:39pm StringOFperils: I have this album, and love it naturally. Nothing unnatural.
	1:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: What I call Obituary Discoveries - only (really) becoming informed of an Artist on passing - obviously mixed, not to say confused feelings. Shame actually one of them. Especially acute when I'm enjoying the Artist as much as I am Hamish.
	🦀 ♥ 1:40pm hyde: argh, The Chills just played here and i didn't go and this song is making me feel guilty.
	🦀 ♥ 1:41pm doctorjazz: Just Googled The Clean and Hamish Kilgour, so sorry @Cletus. Didn't know them, sounds like I should have.
	🦀 ♥ 1:42pm doctorjazz: Don't know The Chills (was heavily into jazz in the 80s, missed most of the Rock/Pop world then)
	🦀 ♥ 1:42pm adamdoesit: Obituary Discoveries. Thanks for giving a name to that too-frequent, kinda-guilty, and still-pleasurable phenomenon, Rev.
	1:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: He obviously meant much to people as a Person not just an Artist. The accounts characterize them as inseparable. adamdoesit - it's quite a soup with enthusiasm & grief & other unlikely flavorings.
	♥ 1:44pm StringOFperils: @doctorjazz > Worth dipping your toe into the pool of Flying Nun Records (NZ) in general, of you like the sound of that Chills track, or The Clean. Bailter Space, a later band that Kilgour was in, made really interesting wall-of-guitar records
	1:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I suppose it's best to be Buddhist about it - & with Musics to go N'Orleans style, grab an umbrella & join the line...
	1:45pm Cletus: @doctorjazz thank you. A lot didn’t know him or the band because they were so self-effacing and modest I think
	1:49pm mic_a: Ah, still here. Looping back on a coupla points... The Pynchon 'intimidation' thing. Don't approach him as a high lit eminence. Read him as a smart-ass in the Lenny Bruce 'sick comic' lineage. Books assigned in high school are doomed. Doomed! The mass murder of literary classics. I can't even remember a single title. A report on Diane Noomin's memorial service at SVA last month: https://www.tcj.com/noominmemorial/ There's also a video of the whole event (linked in article), but it's too sad for me to watch.
	1:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Someone posited there would be no Alt scene as we know it without the early example of bands he was associated with. Interesting.
	♥ 1:49pm StringOFperils: So much like The Go-Betweens sometimes, and then not at all. So great!
	1:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @mic_a: Yeah - I reckon I gotta jump into the pool of Joyce as a swim - as Music - without the massive annotation. Pynchon books just looked literally (Literally?) weighty - appreciate the advice...
	1:51pm mic_a: Apologies for being out of sync with current threads.
	♥ 1:51pm spodiodi: hello Jeff and OUTies
	♥ 1:52pm StringOFperils: Nice cover art. Takes a lifetime to learn how to do that.
	♥ 1:53pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi spodi!
	♥ 1:53pm Jeff Golick: I do have a high school teacher (probably my fave) to thank for telling me to check out The Crying of Lot 49 -- a very good Pynchon entry point, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 1:54pm chresti: Contour drawing?
	♥ 1:54pm Jeff Golick: @StringOFperils, if you mean the Italians, I believe it's a Frisell drawing.
	♥ 1:54pm Andrew in Toronto: The Go-Betweens were great! The solo stuff is very good too.
	♥ 1:54pm StringOFperils: Detour drawing
	♥ 1:54pm spodiodi: hi Andrew!
	♥ 1:55pm coelacanth∅: what a peculiar concept, shame ("guilt") over not being familiar with something before death ends it's existence. i can't relate! ..."stupidity" is something i have felt though, when those circumstances arise!
	🦀 ♥ 1:55pm doctorjazz: Have this Unscientific Italians album, very cool! Thanks SOp, will check it out! And thanks Jeff for Destination Ooooooooouuuuuuuttttt!!! Today! Great stuff!
	1:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I think of myself as kinda from the PreAnnotation Age - before there were Links & References @ hand. (That is ...I am painfully uneducated...) It was only what you could retain in yer own head anyway. It forces one maybe to contextualize for oneself ...tho it's frustrating to always speak of you know that thing maybe you remember that maybe said this but not sure...
	♥ 1:55pm Andrew in Toronto: Great tunes Jeff! Thanks for going extra innings!
	♥ 1:55pm StringOFperils: I like the typography and everything though too, and the colour....I studied design, sorry...carried away....
	♥ 1:55pm Jeff Golick: COMING UP IN A COUPLA MINUTES: wfmu.org... Dark Night of the Soul, Sunday afternoon edition! And hi hi hi, @spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 1:55pm fred: I miss seeing live music. Rotten luck lately, dance comes first but collides
	🦀 ♥ 1:56pm zzz: thanks DJ JG!
	♥ 1:56pm StringOFperils: @Andrew > Yeah, Grant McLennan, and Robert Forster solo stuff is very nice
	1:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes to speaking of Album Covers.
	🦀 ♥ 1:57pm adamdoesit: mic_a, one approach to Pynchon might be to think of him as a novelist of hippie chicks, talking dogs, private dicks, giant spliffs, and extremely silly names. 'fact, it's probably the silly names that pulled me in. Jeff G, thank you for setting this rainy day in musical vibration!
	♥ 1:57pm spodiodi: cya, Jeff! thanks
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm DJpeterDE: With no insult to the musicians here, this track just makes me miss Julius Hemphill (on the original)
	♥ 1:58pm Julie: thanks Jeff!
	♥ 1:58pm coelacanth∅: greetings spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	♥ 1:58pm StringOFperils: Monstrously grand finale, Jeff. I love this Unscientific Italians! Hasta la vista babay
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm listener james from westwood: Loverly, Jeff! Go ice down your DJing hand and have a beverage of choice with the other!
	🦀 ♥ 1:59pm hyde: thanks for the 5 hour marathon!
	♥ 1:59pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jeff.
	🦀 ♥ 1:59pm WR: Thank you , Jeff. Onward.
	1:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Okay ! A different image of Pynchon than I've had... ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	2:00pm mic_a: Thanks Jeff and everyone.
	♥ 2:01pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	2:02pm Avrilinmay: I am sorry about this loss @Cletus, and @rev rabbit. And feeling for those who have lost a dear friend or an artist who has meant a lot to them .... grieving the loss of Efrim, in disbelief still, and I really really hope I did not jump in the chat inappropriately with the mention of another sad passing but finding jazz playing has helped with reading about him. Sorry for not commenting more before this one with the appreciation I felt towards the shows I listened to that you offered us Jeff. So thank you
	♥ 2:04pm Jeff Golick: Not at all inappropriate, @Avrilinmay, just the opposite. Welcome your words whenever you feel moved to share. Sorry for your grief, as well. Thank you for commenting. Thanks to all here, there, and everywhere.
	2:05pm Avrilinmay: <3
	🦀 ♥ 2:52pm WR: Thank you, Jeff.

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December 11, 2022: Hold on to the rail.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:49 (Pop-up)
Robert Ashley & Ensemble MAE	Outcome Inevitable	Tap Dancing in the Sand	Unsounds	2007		0:05:57 (Pop-up)
Jeff Parker ETA IVtet	2021-04-28 "2021-04-28" by "Jeff Parker ETA IVtet"	Mondays at The Enfield Tennis Academy	eremite	2022		0:19:55 (Pop-up)
Andrea Neumann / Sharif Sehnaoui / Michael Thieke / Michael Vorfeld	Nashaz	Nashaz	Al Maslakh Records	2016		0:42:29 (Pop-up)
Nick Dunston	Dystopian Christmas "Dystopian Christmas" by "Nick Dunston"	Spider Season	Out Of Your Heads Records	2022		1:01:58 (Pop-up)
David Murray Quartet	Snowfall "Snowfall" by "David Murray Quartet"	Seasons	Pow Wow Records	1998		1:05:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					1:21:04 (Pop-up)
Kalaparusha Maurice McIntyre Quartet	Anyway You Want It	Peace and Blessings	Black Saint	1979		1:19:07 (Pop-up)
Webber/Morris Big Band	Coral "Coral" by "Webber/Morris Big Band"	Both Are True	Greenleaf Music	2020		1:28:39 (Pop-up)
Chris Combs Large Ensemble	Sojourner Truth	Jazzwerkstatt Bern: Live 2013	Jazzwerkstatt Records	2013		1:38:45 (Pop-up)
S.O.S. (Alan Skidmore / Mike Osborne / John Surman)	Improvisation 3	New Jazz Festival Balver Höhle (New Jazz 1974 & 1975)	JG-Records	1974		1:45:58 (Pop-up)
Konjur Collective	George Jackson "George Jackson" by "Konjur Collective"	Blood In My Eye (a soul insurgent guide)	cow: Music	2022		1:59:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Chaz Jankel	To Woo Lady Kong "To Woo Lady Kong" by "Chaz Jankel"					2:21:26 (Pop-up)
HBD, McCoy Tyner. "HBD, McCoy Tyner."
Freddie Hubbard	Gypsy Blue "Gypsy Blue" by "Freddie Hubbard"	Open Sesame	Blue Note	1960		2:27:30 (Pop-up)
McCoy Tyner	Groove Waltz "Groove Waltz" by "McCoy Tyner"	Nights of Ballads & Blues	Impulse!	1963		2:33:34 (Pop-up)
Wayne Shorter	Armageddon "Armageddon" by "Wayne Shorter"	Night Dreamer	Blue Note	1964		2:38:58 (Pop-up)
McCoy Tyner	I Got It Bad (And That Ain't Good)	Plays Ellington	Impulse!	1964		2:45:29 (Pop-up)
McCoy Tyner	Three Flowers "Three Flowers" by "McCoy Tyner"	Today and Tomorrow	Impulse!	1964		2:51:17 (Pop-up)
Charlie Rouse	One for Five "One for Five" by "Charlie Rouse"	Bossa Nova Bacchanal	Blue Note	1965	[bonus cut added for reissue; only one with Tyner]	3:01:24 (Pop-up)
McCoy Tyner	I Thought I'd Let You Know	Expansions	Blue Note	1968		3:08:24 (Pop-up)
McCoy Tyner	Folks "Folks" by "McCoy Tyner"	Echoes of a Friend	Victor	1972		3:14:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					3:22:11 (Pop-up)
The Firesign Theatre	Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him	Waiting For The Electrician or Someone Like Him	Columbia	1968		3:29:28 (Pop-up)
Funkadelic	Can You Get to That "Can You Get to That" by "Funkadelic"	Maggot Brain	Westbound Records	1971		3:47:00 (Pop-up)
Price	When Doves Cry "When Doves Cry" by "Price"	Purple Rain	Warner Bros. Records	1984		3:49:35 (Pop-up)
Sly & the Family Stone	Que Sera Sera (Whatever Will Be Will Be)	Fresh	Epic	1973		3:55:20 (Pop-up)
Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway	Where Is the Love	Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway	Atlantic	1972		4:00:31 (Pop-up)
Stevie Wonder	I Wish "I Wish" by "Stevie Wonder"	Songs in the Key of Life	Tamla	1976		4:04:44 (Pop-up)
Aretha Franklin	Rock Steady "Rock Steady" by "Aretha Franklin"	Young, Gifted and Black	Atlantic	1973		4:07:57 (Pop-up)
The Beach Boys	Cuddle Up "Cuddle Up" by "The Beach Boys"	Carl and the Passions – "So Tough"	Reprise Records	1972		4:10:36 (Pop-up)
Sleigh Bells	Rill Rill "Rill Rill" by "Sleigh Bells"	Treats	Mom + Pop	2010		4:15:53 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Wolfgang Dauner Quintet	My Man's Gone Now					4:19:42 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Fish "Fish" by "The Clean"	In-A-Live	Flying Nun	1989		4:25:29 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Anything Could Happen "Anything Could Happen" by "The Clean"	In-A-Live	Flying Nun	1989		4:26:59 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Flowers "Flowers" by "The Clean"	In-A-Live	Flying Nun	1989		4:28:29 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Point That Thing Somewhere Else	In-A-Live	Flying Nun	1989		4:31:24 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Whatever I Do Is Right "Whatever I Do Is Right" by "The Clean"	In-A-Live	Flying Nun	1989		4:35:16 (Pop-up)
The Chills	Pink Frost "Pink Frost" by "The Chills"	Kaleidoscope World	Flying Nun	1986		4:37:38 (Pop-up)
The Bats	Treason "Treason" by "The Bats"	Daddy's Highway	Flying Nun	1987		4:41:39 (Pop-up)
Great Unwashed	Space Bike "Space Bike" by "Great Unwashed"	Yeti 13	Yeti Publishing	??/2013		4:44:36 (Pop-up)
The Clean	Hold on to the Rail "Hold on to the Rail" by "The Clean"	Syd's Pink Wiring System	Cleano	2000		4:46:32 (Pop-up)
Unscientific Italians	Some Song and Dance: Love Motel	Play the Music of Bill Frisell Vol. 2	Hora Records	2022		4:51:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		5:01:33 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:00am DJpeterDE: Good morning! Has everyone done their stretching? Marathon today
	♥ 9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Good morning Jeff and all other listeners!
	♥ 9:01am Andrew in Toronto: Holy crap! It`s snowing again.
	♥ 9:03am Jeff Golick: I plan on stretching quite a bit. Good morn, @DJperterDE, and good morn, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:03am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am Sem: Hello, Jeff the G, and D:O folk.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am hyde: hello!
	♥ 9:04am Andrew in Toronto: Hi Sem!
	♥ 9:05am Andrew in Toronto: Hello hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:05am WR: I'm good with grey days as long as it isn't raining. Hi Jeff and drummer streamers.
	🦀 ♥ 9:05am hyde: @AiT hello! 40%chance of snow showers here in Boston today. the gf went to the store yesterday and it was mobbed like there was a huge blizzard coming
	♥ 9:06am Andrew in Toronto: @hyde Yikes!
	♥ 9:07am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @listener james from westwood! Hello, @Sem! Wassup, @hyde! Good to see ya, @WR!
	🦀 ♥ 9:08am hyde: @Ait it's Boston, so you'd think that people would realize it snows here sometimes in the winter. but i guess not
	🦀 ♥ 9:09am Sem: TO Andrew, greets!
	♥ 9:09am TDK60: Good morning, DJ Jeff.
	♥ 9:10am Jeff Golick: How the heck are ya, @TDK60!
	🦀 ♥ 9:11am WR: Not to complicate the day too much, but just in case other Ryuichi Sakamoto fan-atics are reading and happen to not know of the Sakamoto recorded performance being streamed today at 10AM and 4PM ET: special.musicslash.jp... $$$ trigger alert, it costs $30. Otherwise lots of info there of what music-wise has been going on with Sakamoto for the last year or so and what is going on now and near future,
	♥ 9:12am Andrew in Toronto: Hi TDK60!
	♥ 9:12am StringOFperils: Frozen water, it's just a change of state. And yes, there IS art after Impressionism, so deal with it, and of course there IS Destination:OUT. So...let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
	♥ 9:13am Andrew in Toronto: Hiya String!
	9:13am Listener Gregory: Greetings from the shower, all. I was going to listen to the entire show here, but five hours is just too much!
	♥ 9:13am StringOFperils: Andrew...wink
	♥ 9:14am Andrew in Toronto: @Jeff, Can we please have a show dedicated to the still alive Sonny Rollins?
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: Howdy, @StrongOFperils! Greets, clean @Listener Gregory! @Andrew in Tonronto - a tremendous idea. Let me think on that.
	♥ 9:19am TDK60: Hello Andrew in Toronto. // Don't think you wanna know how the heck I really am, DJ Jeff. But right now, okay with coffee and freeforminternetradio.
	🦀 ♥ 9:22am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and Ds of the O. This Jeff Parker is just the music to set the mood for a good game of Eschaton.
	9:23am Listener Gregory: A friend designed an Enfield Tennis Academy sweatshirt and gave me one. Nice!
	🦀 ♥ 9:27am hyde: @LG does it have footnotes
	♥ 9:27am Andrew in Toronto: Hi adamdoesit!
	🦀 ♥ 9:28am Stork: Greetings Outies, in here and Out there! Advance thanks to Jeff and Julie for filling in at the Club today!! Loving this Jeff Parker!
	9:28am Alan R: I'm trying to sync my nose sniffle sounds with the rhythms of the music. Tis the season. At least, the days are warm here. Onward to your 5 hours.
	♥ 9:28am Jeff Golick: Stream papa @adamdoesit! What is Eschaton? That is cool, @LG. And @WR @9:11, that Sakamoto thing also looks cool!
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am hyde: just now realizing this is a 5 hour show. awesome, i'll be stuck in my Covid isolation room for most of today. my luck finally ran out
	9:30am Listener Gregory: @hyde, ha! No, but it does say “established y.d.a.u.”
	🦀 ♥ 9:30am Stork: A rapid recovery to you, hyde!
	♥ 9:30am Jeff Golick: Oh no, @hyde! Sorry to hear that. I am starting to rethink attending some holiday gatherings coming up this week.
	♥ 9:32am Jeff Golick: And hola, @Alan R -- sorry to hear of your sniffles, too. The season, indeed.
	♥ 9:33am Jeff Golick: And Herr @Stork! Thanks for checking in, and for letting me borrow a couple hours at the Club today.
	♥ 9:33am TDK60: Good luck, Hyde. I just got over the virus. Not too bad, I figure due to some boosters.
	9:33am Listener Gregory: I didn’t care for Parker’s previous album, but this is quite good. @hyde, Oy!
	🦀 ♥ 9:35am hyde: Thanks Stork, TDK & JG. it wasn't so bad, just felt mildly poor for a couple days. now i'm just in iso so i don't give it to the gf. frankly for the pandemic i went back to work and public transportation as soon as i could, and honestly haven't worn a mask in months while going out to eat, to rock shows etc. i'm a cavalier you-have-to-live-in-the-world-where-you-can-catch-stuff guy. it was going to happen eventually shrug
	♥ 9:36am Andrew in Toronto: Het better soon hyde!
	🦀 ♥ 9:36am adamdoesit: Jeff G, Eschaton is a game about international relations and nuclear armageddon played by the young inmates of the Enfield Tennis Academy in the heavily-footnoted* David Foster Wallis novel Infinite Jest. Personal trivia: I named my kitty cat after one of the players. * lol Hyde
	🦀 ♥ 9:37am hyde: thanks AiT! mostly i do already
	♥ 9:37am Jeff Golick: Oh, damn, thanks, @adamdoesit. I am not ashamed to say that I flamed out of that book somewhere between page 100 and 200 some years (decades?) ago.
	🦀 ♥ 9:38am Sem: Love the entire Eschaton section of Infinite Jest.
	🦀 ♥ 9:39am Sem: @adamdoesit: on the third time thru IJ I avoided the footnotes. Read them only, later.
	♥ 9:39am TDK60: I still wear a mask in most indoor places, even crowded sidewalks. Uncrowded outdoor areas, no.
	♥ 9:41am StringOFperils: Dave's eschatology didn't serve him so well as words did; guess that' happens when reality becomes an infinite jest.
	♥ 9:41am Andrew in Toronto: Hi adamdoesit!
	🦀 ♥ 9:42am Sem: Touché, SoP.
	🦀 ♥ 9:45am doctorjazz: It's Destination Out...Out...Out...Out...Out...Out...
	🦀 ♥ 9:46am adamdoesit: Jeff G, no shame in that. The recovery section took me down. I wasn't ready to face it. Sem, good plan. And, yeah, the Eschaton section was my favorite, for being the funniest. SOp, I wish DFW had stuck around to write about the Trump and plague years, but I'm not sure he'd have fared well. AiT, hi!
	🦀 ♥ 9:47am fred: The Decemberists did a cool video based on Eschaton: www.youtube.com...
	♥ 9:47am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz, good morning! @fred, good afternoon! (How go the football celebrations around your way?)
	🦀 ♥ 9:48am doctorjazz: Hi Andrew!
	♥ 9:48am Andrew in Toronto: Hey doc! How was the house gig?
	♥ 9:49am Jeff Golick: Other books that have defeated me: Gravity's Rainbow The Brothers Karamazov Under the Volcano ... etc.
	🦀 ♥ 9:50am fred: Not a peep, it's been weirdly silent in my neighborhood. I only learned today that France won, from WFMU of all places
	9:51am Listener Gregory: Jeff @9:37, shame!!
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am hyde: i confess to loving giant, sprawling ridiculously long novels. bring on the Darconville's Cats and Palinuros of Mexico, i say
	♥ 9:53am Jeff Golick: I did just finish a very good book by Hernan Diaz called IN THE DISTANCE. (His latest, TRUST, is showing up on all the end-of-year lists.)
	♥ 9:54am Jeff Golick: @hyde, I'm a big fan of small books.
	🦀 ♥ 9:55am fred: It took me twenty+ years to make it through Finnegan's Wake. Worth it? Not sure
	♥ 9:55am TDK60: Jeff G- I tried Jean-Paul Sartre's 'Being and Nothingness' once. After the first few pages I just laughed and halted. Way above my head.
	🦀 ♥ 9:56am DJpeterDE: Andrew: just for you, I've reposted my Sonny Rollins 91st birthday show. (It's not 100% Rollins but what's there is cherce.) www.mixcloud.com...
	🦀 ♥ 9:56am hyde: @JG let's meet in the middle and just agree that books are good!
	9:57am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ Good Sunday FMUvianz ~
	🦀 ♥ 9:57am DJpeterDE: I recently read Sam Greenlee's The Spook Who Sat By The Door, which I wouldn't have known of but for the Destination Out blog featuring Herbie Hancock's score (for the film adaptation) back in the day!
	♥ 9:57am Jeff Golick: @hyde: :::mimes fists bump:::
	♥ 9:58am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! @DJpeter, that's so cool. How was the book? I haven't read it. And I have the film in one queue or another...
	🦀 ♥ 9:58am duke: Hello D:Oers
	♥ 9:59am Jeff Golick: Hi there, @duke!
	🦀 ♥ 9:59am fred: Bye, I'm off to the Sakamoto show
	♥ 10:00am Jeff Golick: Enjoy, @fred! See you next time...
	🦀 ♥ 10:01am doctorjazz: Andrew, the House Concert was great! Yuka C. Honda, Nels Cline with Chris Lightcap, The Autumn Defense. (as a bonus, my wife came, and sat through the Yuka C. Honda set, much like what's playing now, and actually enjoyed it. I've been a bad influence...)
	🦀 ♥ 10:02am DJpeterDE: @Jeff the film is amazing, I’ll be teaching it in the spring in my grad seminar “race and cinema.” The film hews closely to the book. The novel has a very dry and compelling voice. Fits the protagonist: thoughtful, but angry.
	♥ 10:03am Jeff Golick: Race and cinema! I would like to take that course.
	🦀 ♥ 10:05am DJpeterDE: I’m enjoying the process of assembling the syllabus. Of course working in the syllabus is a great way to avoid grading the current semester.
	🦀 ♥ 10:05am doctorjazz: Chris Lightcap is a monster stand up bass player (he played electric in a jam at the end). (drop out there). I did have to drive 3 and a half hours (both ways), but it was worth the trip)
	♥ 10:05am Andrew in Toronto: doc, I think I`ve been a bad influence as well!
	♥ 10:07am StringOFperils: No shortage of great books that can leave the reader to die on his/her their shield. I'm getting too old to worry about it...although I'd still like to finish John Barth's 'Giles Goat-Boy' one of these days. (Under The Volcano is quite a bummer, btw, but much more a great thing than the film.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:08am DJpeterDE: Very much looking forward to what my smart students (a mix of historians and material culture students) will say about this book: www.dukeupress.edu...
	10:09am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, what is this house concert you speak of?
	🦀 ♥ 10:09am doctorjazz: From back when David Murray was releasing an album a week-have a bunch of them, didn't get this one, lovely track!
	♥ 10:10am Andrew in Toronto: @DJpeterDE That`s a pretty touchy subject.
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am Listener Gregory: I have a huge trove of David Murray records, yet Jeff uncovers new ones that I've never heard of all the time. How is this possible? (i.e., what doctorj just said)
	🦀 ♥ 10:10am DJpeterDE: Never in a million years would I have expected David Murray to interpret Claude Thornhill
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: It's a weird one, this Murray! Not essential, I would say.
	🦀 ♥ 10:11am DJpeterDE: andrew: touchy subjects make for good seminars!
	🦀 ♥ 10:11am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am Listener Gregory: Beautiful nonetheless.
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am adamdoesit: A couple years ago, I made a summer project of reading Gravity's Rainbow. At a certain point, something about its langauge snapped into focus and I could just read it, instead of wading through it like deep mud. Very satisfying. Right now, I'm working my way through War and Peace, which turns out to be beautifully observed, and divided into nice short chapters, convenient for titrating through sleepless nights.
	♥ 10:12am Andrew in Toronto: DJpeterDE: I agree!
	♥ 10:13am StringOFperils: @CJpeter > No shortage of racism or sexism in early animation, later animation, and recent animation. And having spent considerable time within a sector of that industry, I'd also posit that, on the inside, it demonstrates features of grass-roots fascism, and an eagerness to return to slavery/subjugation of other people.
	🦀 ♥ 10:13am Listener Gregory: @adamdoesit, I have some excellent advice for those who want to (re)try Gravity's Rainbow and Ulysses, as I did last year: Retirement.
	🦀 ♥ 10:14am doctorjazz: LG, I have a friend in the Philly area who's gotten to be friends with a few members of Wilco. He used to put on a House concert every December, pre-pandemic (the last one was 4 years ago). Was a very eclectic mix; computer-generated improv, a guitar/bass duo in the mold of Jim Hall/Ron carter Duo, and soft/country rock. Yuka C. Honda, Nels Cline with Chris Lightcap, The Autumn Defense (hoping I'll get a recording of it in the not too distant future)
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am adamdoesit: LG, ha! Something to look foward to, kinda.
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, that sounds awesome.
	🦀 ♥ 10:19am Listener Gregory: Jeff, my family is definitely going to look forward to spending Christmas morning with you and the show.
	🦀 ♥ 10:20am DJpeterDE: String: would love to hear more about your experiences in that industry! What did you do?
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am Andrew Waterloo: I'm reading Billy Braggs book Roots and Radicals. Also, this thing called the Meritocracy Trap which is fascinating but incredibly dense.
	🦀 ♥ 10:24am DJpeterDE: I love the sound they got at Barigozzi studio. (Haven’t made a study of it)
	♥ 10:25am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Andrew Waterloo! I've heard the Meritocracy Trap come up a few times lately.
	♥ 10:26am Jeff Golick: (I have Meritocracy Trap in my Audible library, too, as yet unheard.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am DJpeterDE: String: the Sammond book talks a lot about the organization of labor in animation, relating it to the depictions onscreen
	10:30am mic_a: Argh! I'm missing a load of book talk, and I'm still too tied up to catch it all. Ulysses -- it's important to not read it too soon in life. I tried when I was about 20 and didn't get far at all. Went straight through on a second attempt in my mid-30s. You need that much age to appreciate the rich melancholy of life it embodies. Had a second reading, in the internet age, via one of those page-a-day blogs. Very useful. Read Gravity's Rainbow the first time, also mid-30s. Never have been able to understand all the whining people have over it. Not hard, just roll with it. Second reading in the 2000s was one of my peak reading experiences -- though the availability, by then, of online annotations was a great help in sorting out the actual history and Pynchon's embellishments. Hi Jeff and everyone!
	🦀 ♥ 10:31am doctorjazz: Another drop out on my end.
	♥ 10:32am Andrew in Toronto: Me too.
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am doctorjazz: (I think there are more drop outs on the stream recently than I recall previously)
	10:32am mic_a: Going to be starting Olga Tokarczuk's Books Of Jacob within a week or so. That should take me through the heart of winter.
	♥ 10:33am Jeff Golick: Yo, @mic_a! Yeah the dropouts are via playback -- not an internet issue. I tried messing with the software -- I think it could be a latency issue? -- but I really don't know. Sorry about that; frustrating.
	♥ 10:34am Jeff Golick: @mic_a - That Tokarczuk looks amazing. I have a cousin who is an academic who was raving about it.
	🦀 ♥ 10:35am doctorjazz: Coral sounds great over headphones (which I'm using until fam wakes up)
	♥ 10:35am StringOFperils: @DJ peter > If you want , you can email me about it. I don't want to say anything further in here...it would sound paranoid to say that if the 'right' persons were to figure out who this is, they might come for me. someone physically grabbed me on the street several years ago, and it was about as disturbing as it was meant to be. Nothing, like opinions for instance, will stand in the way of that industry's ideas about labour, or the kindly face it presents to the public, or to its 'clients', PBS/WGBH being foremost among them
	♥ 10:36am StringOFperils: ...and right there I just opened up a door to whole world of pain
	♥ 10:37am Jeff Golick: Oof that does sound disturbing, @StringOFperils. Sorry about that.
	🦀 ♥ 10:38am doctorjazz: Oy, SoP, sounds awful, sorry as well!
	♥ 10:39am StringOFperils: Elon Musk's utterations re. labour are not thematically new to me in any way
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am doctorjazz: Cool Set!!!
	10:40am mic_a: I snagged the extra cool Fitzcarraldo Editions paperback. They also put out The Things We've Seen by Agustín Fernández Mallo, which is a pretty remarkable book itself.
	10:40am Dean: Books, nice. I'm reading Moby Dick, rather, savoring it. Second go-round, with a stalled attempt in-between. Beautiful and intense. I've read Ulysses a couple times, hope to manage a third, but then my early 2020 effort with Finnegans Wake failed due to...guess what. Haven't had an interest in Pynchon, but I would like to read Dos Passos' trilogy. Also need to reread Woolf' To The Lighthouse and later works.
	🦀 ♥ 10:42am doctorjazz: Pedal Steel-took me a bit to figure it out, no?
	♥ 10:42am Jeff Golick: @Dean! I'm going back to the graphic novel (if that's the right word for it) DUCKS this afternoon/evening.
	10:43am mic_a: Moby Dick is the great beat generation novel that the beats never managed to write. 100 years early. I've had a copy of Finnegan's Wake since my teens, but I think that one will never go. I think you need to read it aloud for it to work, and I can't deal with that.
	🦀 ♥ 10:43am DJpeterDE: @String that is horrifying, thanks for sharing. If you are indeed willing to talk, I will reach out.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am adamdoesit: mic_a, I think you're spot on about Ulysses. Source: I read it too soon. Meanwhile, the strange brew of race, sex, and rocketry that fuels GR feels most relevant today in ways that make its paranoid strains seem maybe not so fantastical. Which is as much to say, I feel you, SOp.
	♥ 10:49am coelacanth∅: Good morning Jeff, OUTies
	♥ 10:49am Jeff Golick: How do, @coelacanth∅!
	🦀 ♥ 10:50am DJpeterDE: @adamdoesit: I see you on Mixcloud! Hope you dig the Rollins show (after D:O is over, of course!)
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am hyde: i loooove Moby Dick
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am adamdoesit: DJpeterDE, thanks for posting that! I look forward to listening. coel, I dreamed the other night that my old Volvo came back to me…
	♥ 10:54am StringOFperils: I can only offer opinions and some insight, DJPeter. Going 'on the record' in any sense would be pure folly. I've considered writing about it myself, but fiction seems like the only place these ideas could live in any way that might be productive. The folks back there are their own prisoners, they are their own guards (to cop a phrase from an old Erik Andersen song)
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am Listener Gregory: Is there any reason this SOS concert couldn't have been played last week in downtown Manhattan? It's as up-to-date as could be. IMHO
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am DJpeterDE: @string: you are being modest, but it occurs to me now that there's no such thing as "expertise," only "opinions and insight"
	♥ 10:55am coelacanth∅: ha, nice,adam! i've been off the 240 wagon for 2-3 years now but i still dream in volvos.
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: Not enough S.O.S. out there, for sure, @LG.
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am DJpeterDE: In other concert news, Seattle has a concert of (excerpts from) Ellington's Sacred Concerts every December, and I'll be going (with my dad) for the first time this year. (Ripping the concerts now for my pre-concert homework.)
	10:59am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm only Literate in the broadest most charitable senses. I love Kerouac - but relate to him almost like a Rawk Star - having come to him via film & recordings more than anything. I do get the impression that if one is concerned with Jack's spontaneous Beat Prosody ...then one may have to concede Joyce had landed in the hemisphere a bit earlier & no less distinctively... One hears how MobyDick is almost PostModern in Form - whole chapters out of the narrative for scientific exposition ...also read that was cause he was paid by volume :D ...
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am doctorjazz: What LG sait @ 10:54-this predatess the World Sax Quartet, no?
	11:00am mic_a: Pynchon's life-long theme of industry/state vs individual/family is always sadly relevant.
	♥ 11:01am Jeff Golick: That sounds great, @DJpeterDE!
	🦀 ♥ 11:01am Listener Gregory: @doctorj, WSQ formed in 1977 according to the all-knowing Wiki.
	11:01am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Pynchon's titles alone leave me with awe & foreboding. Well - his rep.
	♥ 11:02am coelacanth∅: for the record, SOp i'd read a book about that -especially if it was truth presented in a novel; reality presented in a fantastical situation (à la García Márquez)
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am fred: This Sakamoto show is overwhelming. I'm crying for real
	♥ 11:07am StringOFperils: I reasoned that the technical back-stage of the animation industry, per se, would be profoundly uninteresting and/or impenetrable to the average reader; it needed to be more of a crime thriller, with a chewy meditation on organized intimidation at its heart....and maybe a 'necessary' murder or two...one of those logical extensions of (subjective) reality....if one were to be patient
	🦀 ♥ 11:08am WR: I watched a bit of the Sakamoto before going 0ut shopping. will watch it all the way thru at the next streaming. Pausing in shopping in the cold & light rain to comment on how these raucous tunes are flavoring my interactions with the store clerks.
	11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: If 'animation' literally means bringing things to life - ironic then to treat of the opposite...
	♥ 11:09am StringOFperils: I DID feel clapped in irony.
	11:09am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Frankenstein territory perhaps...
	🦀 ♥ 11:10am DJpeterDE: @String, sounds like a good subject for a Michael Chabon novel, actually.
	♥ 11:11am Jeff Golick: Wow, @fred!
	11:11am mic_a: On the non-fiction side. Finishing Dirty Pictures by Brian Doherty. Good underground comics history saddled with a terrible title and cover design. A good job of tracking a whole crowd of artists over decades of change, but oh -- the endless, awkwardly phrased run-on sentences. Even worse than me. And two text editors are credited in the acknowledgements! Finally read my used copy of Ornette Coleman: A Harmolodic Life. Very good. Even after all these years of reading about Ornette, I still learned a lot of new things. And, if you don't mind wading through academic jargon, the two Punk Reader/Global Punk volumes from Intellect Books have some deeply interesting articles -- the reports from Southeast Asia were most fascinating to me.
	🦀 ♥ 11:12am hyde: ok, i have been neglecting my fiction reading lately in favor of non fiction but today's playlist has inspired me to request the new Yoko Tawada novel from the library.
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am hyde: @mic_a oh, i really need to read Finishing Dirty Pictures!
	11:13am mic_a: Kim Deitch's comix about the horrors of animation history could be relevant.
	♥ 11:14am coelacanth∅: well, you would know that as well as i would not; but i'm interested in pretty much everything! - at least the fundamentals of everything. the technicalities of the industry are likely more interesting to me than the animation itself, although yes maybe not in depth. (but maybe) ...having no interest at all in commercial animation would be an understatement. it's more like it generally annoys me, if not disgusts me!
	🦀 ♥ 11:15am hyde: @mic_a i recently took Last Girl Standing by Trina Robbins out from my work library, but haven't gotten to it yet
	♥ 11:16am coelacanth∅: oh i want to read that Ornette book. 'add it to the pile.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am adamdoesit: Moby Dick, for what it's worth, concerns the technical back-stage of some flickering American lights.
	♥ 11:17am StringOFperils: There's an essay about corporations acquiring and programming all media platforms, and the inculcation of 'values' from infancy onward with respect to mass-marketing in there as well. Insidious.
	🦀 ♥ 11:18am fred: I mean, he's dying but still giving
	🦀 ♥ 11:19am Listener Gregory: I am writing a few Xmas cards, and I have lost two different pens while sitting at my desk. Haven't moved. Found both of them, but it is frankly ridiculous.
	🦀 ♥ 11:20am Sem: More book talk, but listening to a book. A dozen chapter into mobdydickbigread.com. Different readers for each chapter, Tilda Swinton kicked it off. A winter listen, if you will. A chapter an evening.
	♥ 11:21am StringOFperils: Reading Moby Dick is immensely rewarding, on the other hand. Both times I read it I remember closing the book and feeling that the whole world was between those boards.
	♥ 11:22am Andrew in Toronto: Hiya coel!
	♥ 11:22am coelacanth∅: yes, StringO. that shit has been obvious to me since i was a kid -evident just by watching. i've never liked most of the tv and big screen crap that my piers were dazzled by -must be at least partially because of that.
	🦀 ♥ 11:22am fred: @Sem: Are you still reading it every year?
	♥ 11:23am coelacanth∅: i think that konjur collective kicked in!
	11:24am mic_a: Hoping everyone has already heard, so I'm not the bad news bearer, but Aline Kominsky-Crumb passed away just a couple of weeks ago. Which was a sad double-hit after Diane Noomin also, a couple of months ago.
	♥ 11:25am coelacanth∅: good morning Andrew!
	🦀 ♥ 11:25am hyde: @mic_a yeah, there go two real giants
	11:25am mic_a: Oh gosh, I've gotta stop this. Maybe catch ya's again in the bonus time.
	🦀 ♥ 11:26am Sem: It was a forced march in high school, to read Moby Dick. Not entirely focussed on it, then. fred: no, life intervened. Glad of your recent Whitehead suggestion, satisfaction at a story well told.
	🦀 ♥ 11:27am Listener Gregory: Jeff, I'm guessing that the Webber is Anna, but not sure who the Morris is. If you tell me, I'll write it down if I can find a pen.
	11:28am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I always note : McCoy Tyner shared his chocolate cheesecake with me. He's unique among all Artists in this regard.
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am WR: @11:20 @Sem: oh wow. will book mark that. I've not read any more tgan few pages here and there of MD.
	🦀 ♥ 11:29am hyde: @JG the Bandcamp page for the Konjur Collective says that the drummer shared an unmastered version of that record with Gabriel Jermaine (I guess that's who wrote the blurb, he did the liner notes?) "at the height of the pandemic", so likely Dave Sewelson got it then too somehow
	11:30am WM: Glad you played the Kalaparusha track. I met him a few times when he was busking in the subway. I heard what was probably one of his last gigs at the Knitting Factory (I don't remember when exactly). The BBC made a good documentary about him: Closeness, the untold story of Kalaparusha. You can find it at https://vimeo.com/10997309. Also I think his best recording is Positions 3 6 9 (1978) with Jerome Cooper and Frank Lowe. You can find it on Youtube.
	♥ 11:30am Jeff Golick: @RRN63, beautiful. @LG, Angela Morris with Anna Webber, yes. (Morris had given birth three months before this recent gig I saw!)
	11:30am Miss G: Good morning, this is a drive-by as I have to run, but wanted to put in another good word for Kate Beaton's Ducks. Can be harrowing at times, but I found it a poignant memoir. I sent it to some teacher friends to share it around.
	🦀 ♥ 11:30am DJpeterDE: @LG: Angela Morris angelamorrismusic.com
	♥ 11:31am StringOFperils: This Freddie Hubbard is so lovely. I love this stuff.
	🦀 ♥ 11:31am Listener Gregory: Thx, Jeff and peter! I don't know Angela at all. Will have to check her out.
	🦀 ♥ 11:31am DJpeterDE: @Rev we're all salivating to hear more about Tyner's cheesecake
	♥ 11:32am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that, @WM, and thanks for checking in! And greetings, @Miss G! Yes, harrowing is a good word for how one feels traversing certain parts of that book (and I'm not done yet...).
	11:33am Miss G: Diane Noomin signed my copy of Glitz-2-Go and she was a lovely lady. In 2000 I sat with Bill Griffith at his table at SPX and we had a great conversation. I hate to think of him without her. And R. Crumb without Aline, shakes head It's just life, tho.
	11:34am WM: @mic_a: Some one has posted a reading of a great deal of Finnegan's Wake on Youtube, It's pretty good. I agree that you almost have to read the Wake aloud to appreciate (if not understand) it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:34am WR: Arrived back to the apartment, safely. Jeff, TMI extra thanks that the high energy set was also very good to jig about to, said jigging necessary to cope with the shops not granting restroom privileges to me. Hence my "safely" emphasis.
	♥ 11:37am Jeff Golick: Glad you made it back ok, @WR! McCoy Tyner about 21 years old on that Freddie Hubbard datre.
	♥ 11:38am StringOFperils: Mind blowing.
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am DJpeterDE: McCoy is the “etc” in the album cover… since signed to Impulse (I believe)
	🦀 ♥ 11:41am Listener Gregory: I like how the Night Dreamer cover tell us "Lee Morgan, Reginald Workman, Elvin Jones, etc." Sorry, McCoy!
	♥ 11:41am Jeff Golick: Yeah how about that.
	♥ 11:41am TDK60: Dean, way back an hour ago. I read Dos Passos' USA trilogy. Great read.
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Kick ass band tho.
	11:43am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was when I lived in SantaBarbara - & my higher up @ a CD store I worked @ was kind of my surrogate West Coast big brother - & mentor for all things Straight Ahead Jazz which was his obsession. He got himself a DJ slot on some college radio & ...well, earlier that day in LA - we saw Charlie Haden's Quartet West give an actually Free show. Free as in no charge... then - in another part of town the Tyner Trio was playing - so we went there ! I think with Avery Sharp - just ...one felt like making gestures as people in Islamic prayer do. Two remarkable kinds of Spiritual Food in one day. Frankly, I've never had another day quite like it. Anyhow - my friend's thang as DJ got him backstage after & I tagged ! It's was Tyner's last day in the club - so they gave him a cheesecake. He didn't want it all - so he shared it. In my limited experience - always been struck how these Giants were so often the humblest kindest persons - whereas the local cover band might have attitude ...some have something to prove & some are stratospheres beyond it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:43am Listener Gregory: Maybe some contractual reason? Is that what you're suggesting DJp? I mean, he wasn't a nonentity in 1964.
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am Listener Gregory: @RevRab, I heard Avery Sharpe in a local gig a few months ago, and he was playing very well. And his tone sounded better than I remembered.
	11:45am Miss G: RRN63 what a great story. And what an amazing day of music!
	🦀 ♥ 11:45am fred: @TDK60: I somehow got a first edition of that book. It felt special reading it.
	🦀 ♥ 11:48am doctorjazz: Very cool tale, RRN63. Tyner takes his time on this Ellington in getting the theme out there.
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: Yeah, @RRN63 - what a day and what a memory.
	♥ 11:49am Hams: man, what a show.
	🦀 ♥ 11:49am DJpeterDE: @LG Yes, because he was signed to Impulse, Blue Note would have had to get permission for him to record. And in this case they got permission for him to play, but not for his name to be on the front cover. (It is on the back, I believe).
	♥ 11:49am Jeff Golick: @Hams!
	♥ 11:49am TDK60: Fred: It's a special book to me, due to some of the history portrayed. I read an old hardback (I think '40s) edition. I gave it away.
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am hyde: I don't totally remember, but I saw McCoy Tyner at UMass in the early 80's and I imagine Avery Sharpe was in the band--he plays on that 1981 La Leyenda de La Hora LP, which would have been about when I saw him. Avery Sharpe still works at UMass, I think
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am DJpeterDE: Good to know that not even McCoy Tyner will eat an entire cheesecake. Of course he'd cut it up in fourths instead of thirds. (does that joke even make sense?)
	♥ 11:50am Hams: howdy.
	♥ 11:51am StringOFperils: Cheesecake a la modal
	🦀 ♥ 11:51am DJpeterDE: Indeed listed on back. www.discogs.com...
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am DJpeterDE: @string see, I knew someone else would have a better line!
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am Listener Gregory: @DJp, I'd like to say that those days are over, but a couple of years ago, Bill Frisell and Mary Halvorsen did a duo album for Tzadik, and it had to be put out as a Halvorsen album, with Frisell. It was confusing when you heard it, because it was clearly designed as duets all through. I think his contract with Okeh required that.
	🦀 ♥ 11:52am adamdoesit: Listening to McCoy Tyner on his birthday, while thinking about generosity and chocolate cheesecake. What a terrible way to spend a rainy Sunday.
	♥ 11:53am Jeff Golick: John Gilmore and Thad Jones on this McCoy cut -- how often were those two together?
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am DJpeterDE: @LG yeah it's silly, but glad they didn't stand in the way of the recording!
	🦀 ♥ 11:53am doctorjazz: How often was John Gilmore anywhere that wasn't Ra?
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am DJpeterDE: @Jeff great question so I looked it up: there's a bootleg out there of George Russell at Newport in 1964: plus Steve Swallow, Tootie, Heath, and Sheila Jordan !!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am DJpeterDE: Love Gilmore's session with Paul Bley, and on Blue Note w/ Clifford Jordan!
	🦀 ♥ 11:56am fred: @TDK60: I got it cheap, probably from an estate sale. There's a heartfelt note on the first page, back when giving a book was meaningful
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am hyde: @DJPeterDE that is quite the lineup and that Bley/Gilmore record is amazing
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am DJpeterDE: I have that George Russell on a collection called "Things New" but the CD lists Joe Farrell as the sax player. But Tom Lord says it's John Gilmore! Will listen later to confirm!
	♥ 11:58am Jeff Golick: That Turning Point record (Bley, Gilmore, etc.) is indeed wonderful. A Nels Cline-led group covered the whole album more recently, I think. Not sure if it got an official release.
	🦀 ♥ 11:58am Sem: Been sweet and swell, Jeff. Thank you. Next time, then.
	🦀 ♥ 12:00pm doctorjazz: The Gilmore/Clifford Jordan I have, great record.
	♥ 12:00pm Jeff Golick: Thanks to you, @Sem. Tho fyi I'm not going anywhere just yet - on for another two hours today.
	12:01pm rw: Good morning!
	♥ 12:01pm StringOFperils: It's a Jeff Pentathalon
	♥ 12:02pm Hams: oh, 5 hours! sweet!
	🦀 ♥ 12:03pm Listener Gregory: I have to confront the chill to get a couple of miles in, so I have to leave. At least I managed to miss that goddamned flute! Thanks a lot, Jeff!
	🦀 ♥ 12:04pm doctorjazz: The Nels Cline/Chris Lightcap set last night was reminiscent of Jim Hall/Ron Carter duo-they played a track that duo had performed/recorded. You can hear Hall in some of the chord voicings Cline uses (when he's not playing way out there...)
	🦀 ♥ 12:04pm Listener Gregory: Is Hubbard on this cut too? No trumpet player mentioned on the cover.
	🦀 ♥ 12:05pm DJpeterDE: Correction: "Things New" does list Gilmore but Don Ellis in place of Thad Jones. Also lists Pete La Roca (not Heath). Speaking of La Roca, Vinnie Sperazza's new Substack is fun. Very much influenced by Ethan Iverson's voice, but drummer centric. Just posted on Pete La Roca, and also talks about Paul Motian on Turning Point.
	♥ 12:05pm StringOFperils: Outside time for me too. The dog has to lay down some parts in a session in the park. But you're not going anywhere...brb
	♥ 12:05pm Jeff Golick: Good morning, @rw! Yes, good ears, @LG; tis Hubbard. Take care, @Listener Gregory!
	♥ 12:06pm Jeff Golick: Hope there are no outtakes (??) @SOp. Or...y'know. Happy walking!
	12:08pm Miss G: Thank you Jeff Golick for giving my ears and brain something substantial before I face the hordes (and the jingles, oy.) Thank you DJpeterDE, I found The Spook Who Sat by the Door (1973) with the Herbie Hancock score on my Roku via Movieland. Cheers, all!
	♥ 12:09pm Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @Miss G! Wishing you good luck and fortitude against the hordes.
	🦀 ♥ 12:12pm doctorjazz: Good to know that's on Roku, have to look for that movie.
	🦀 ♥ 12:14pm doctorjazz: Sounded like a Come Sunday quote on that bass end
	12:22pm rw: Jeff, Is it cool if I say one more time, this is so great what you all do with this radio station? Thank you all. And that goes for everyone hanging out here too. What a nice thing this is.
	🦀 ♥ 12:22pm fred: @doc: I'm sure your wife is delighted to have extra hours of D:O
	🦀 ♥ 12:23pm zzz: marathon D:O! happy to come on board just in time for the wonderful solo McCoy— happy birthday and rest in peace to the master. hey JeffG and folks!
	12:23pm rw: Appreciate the extra time this morning!
	12:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Coltrane b. 1926 Year of Fire 🐅Tiger - McCoy Tyner b. 1938 Year of Earth 🐅Tiger
	🦀 ♥ 12:29pm zzz: deep dive in to Tyner’s incredible run of recordings from the 1970s: parts 1 and 2 burningambulance.com... burningambulance.com...
	12:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Firesign <3
	♥ 12:31pm Jeff Golick: @rw! That is cool! Thank you! @zzz! Thanks for those links.
	🦀 ♥ 12:31pm fred: @Jeff: Is your wife recovering well? WFMU and ankles are not getting along well lately
	♥ 12:32pm Jeff Golick: Yes, thanks, @fred. We took a little walk to get coffee yesterday -- longest outing yet.
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm doctorjazz: @Fred, she's at a conference, Zoom, being spared... (besides, she may be becomming a fan-she actually enjoyed a very "out" Yuka C. Honda set last night (which she very easily could have left). The plan is working...)
	🦀 ♥ 12:33pm listener james from westwood: Still better than checking into Fawlty Towers.
	🦀 ♥ 12:34pm hyde: haha, Firesign Theater. I bought a vinyl copy of Dear Friends at a yard sale awhile back. i used to have all of these records
	12:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& various times there have been 24/7 streams for Goons &/or Firesign (different ones) ...& then not...
	12:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *@
	12:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...SubGenius Hour of Slack is explicit about Firesign being their precedent...
	🦀 ♥ 12:40pm fred: Looks like Doug was staying like right next where I work this week. Totally oblivious, and that might have been his first band in high school
	🦀 ♥ 12:41pm doctorjazz: Glad your sig other is getting better, Jeff!
	12:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Up & about ! Good news.
	♥ 12:43pm Jeff Golick: @fred, whoa.
	♥ 12:46pm Franco Twinkie: Hello!
	♥ 12:47pm Jeff Golick: @Franco Twinkie, hello!
	🦀 ♥ 12:49pm WR: This surely ain't the Stork Club. If it was we would have got hours more of McCoy Tyner. What? No, that isn't my passport.
	♥ 12:49pm coelacanth∅: classic track from a perfect album
	♥ 12:49pm coelacanth∅: 'morning Franco!
	♥ 12:51pm coelacanth∅: Mavis Staples' version is just as good too, it's only flaw being that it's almost the same.
	🦀 ♥ 12:51pm zzz: When you base your life on credit And your loving days are done Checks you signed with love and kisses Later come back signed "insufficient funds" love that lyric
	♥ 12:51pm Franco Twinkie: Good morning Coel. It rained like a motherfucker this morning. Laid in bed, thankful I was inside.
	🦀 ♥ 12:52pm fred: Memories of hiding under sheets with a radio... I'm that old
	♥ 12:52pm Franco Twinkie: Me too, Fred.
	12:53pm CalZone!: Thumbs up Beverly Yakamoto for the Firesign! Shoes for Industry!
	🦀 ♥ 12:53pm doctorjazz: And me t00-my little Sony portable.
	♥ 12:54pm coelacanth∅: Thankful for your rain Franco. it's snowing here. not a lot,probably. i Love it but just focused on not freezing now.
	♥ 12:54pm Jeff Golick: @CalZone! Shoes for industry, indeed.
	♥ 12:54pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Franco!
	🦀 ♥ 12:57pm doctorjazz: Cool Sly!
	🦀 ♥ 12:59pm zzz: docjazz, i know you’re a fan- have you heard the steven bernstein/MTO sly cover album? great version of this with martha wainwright on vocals. whole album is a treat
	🦀 ♥ 12:59pm zzz: but yeah this original is perfect
	🦀 ♥ 1:00pm zzz: *original sly
	🦀 ♥ 1:02pm fred: @zzz: don't tempt doc, he's already trying to block best-of lists
	♥ 1:02pm Franco Twinkie: Haha! Yes Doc, a little Zenith pressed against my ear. Life changing moment: Spring of 1969, I'm in bed with the radio. Mona, by The Quicksilver Messenger Service over KRLA on Jimmy Rabbits show. "What is this!?" Later, next to a swimming pool I discuss it with a friend. He heard it too. Right then an there we vow to see them the next time they come to L.A. We did! And that's when it started rolling....and it's never stopped.
	1:02pm wendy del formaggio: Hey Jeff! I’ve been listening for about an hour. It’s great! Especially this Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway. I love their voices together.
	♥ 1:03pm Michael 98145: Radio Carla !
	♥ 1:03pm Franco Twinkie: Yup!
	🦀 ♥ 1:04pm Stork: Just checking in ever so briefly - wow! now that's what i cal a playlist! Sorry I missed doing McCoy's b-day, but count on you to cover that one, JG! OK, knock it off with the great tunes! I gotta get some work done!!
	🦀 ♥ 1:04pm chresti: Hi Jeff and de OUT clubbers!
	♥ 1:06pm Jeff Golick: @wendy del formaggio! Same same. @Michael 98145, hello! @Stoooork checking IN! Hola, @chresti!
	♥ 1:06pm Andrew in Toronto: Hiya cresti!
	🦀 ♥ 1:07pm doctorjazz: @zzz-I got the recent 4 LP set of music Steve Bernstein released, one other, but not the Sly album. Hmmmm....maybe the record cut-back diet starts tomorrow...
	🦀 ♥ 1:07pm doctorjazz: (Saw Bernstein and MTO at The Falcoln not long ago, great show!)
	🦀 ♥ 1:09pm chresti: Hi Andrew in TO!
	♥ 1:10pm Andrew in Toronto: @doc That`s a very underrated Sly lp!
	♥ 1:11pm Michael 98145: @chresti, FT, sounds like the concrete rivers are getting wet ...
	🦀 ♥ 1:15pm fred: @doc: it always starts tomorrow...
	♥ 1:15pm Franco Twinkie: I have yet to turn on the TV Michael, but tomorrow morning I'm going to my moms house which is next to the Big Dalton Wash. Every year, some foolish kid perished.
	🦀 ♥ 1:16pm chresti: @ Michael, yes overnight it came down, has been tapering off for the day.
	1:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco - faceborg reminded me this morning of something I typed invoking Cipollina for one of Stan's shows : ...to parse the supernatural portals of the subtle but elemental energies - to negotiate the fates like Dr. Strange in interior landscapes of Platonic Form & preternatural energy - which would ripple out & echo like soundwaves of Destiny for all Humankind & Life - @ every level of the Fractal Pattern of Reality & Events ...he realized in that moment of his weakness & confusion that he would need precise awareness & exquisite physical control of his electric guitar tones ...he called upon the spirit of John Cippolini in internal Invocation - & made silent supplication to the great Ancestor Gawds... It was 19 A.M. www.wfmu.org...
	♥ 1:17pm Franco Twinkie: Word,RR.
	🦀 ♥ 1:18pm zzz: this sleigh bells is cool!
	♥ 1:19pm coelacanth∅: funny -i often think of rill rill when i think of compared to what
	🦀 ♥ 1:22pm fred: I l just love when Jeff gets loose
	♥ 1:23pm coelacanth∅: (duh. i meant can you get to that, not compared to what)
	🦀 ♥ 1:23pm chresti: There's always some homeless guy that get's marooned on a little sand island in the LA river when it rains enough.
	♥ 1:23pm StringOFperils: The Clean. Worthy of tribute.
	1:25pm Cletus: Why does everyone there have an issue with the pronunciation of Hamish!? Lol
	🦀 ♥ 1:25pm hyde: alas poor Hamish
	♥ 1:25pm coelacanth∅: so rill rill is considered an interpolation of can you get to that. had no idea, just thought they sounded similar
	♥ 1:26pm Jeff Golick: @Cletus! Help me understand!
	♥ 1:27pm StringOFperils: I watched Hamish Macbeth. I know my Hamish
	1:27pm Cletus: HAY MISH
	♥ 1:28pm Jeff Golick: Ok! Thanks for that, @Cletus.
	🦀 ♥ 1:28pm chresti: Todd said Hay mish
	♥ 1:29pm StringOFperils: Kill Gore, or Kill Gower ? Thoughts?
	🦀 ♥ 1:29pm doctorjazz: I know my Yiddish Hamish... From Colliers Dictionary: Definition of 'haimish' haimish in American English (ˈheɪmɪʃ; ˈhaɪmɪʃ) Yiddish ADJECTIVE having qualities associated with a homelike atmosphere; simple, warm, relaxed, cozy, unpretentious, etc.
	🦀 ♥ 1:29pm chresti: But I've heard it pronounced Ham-ish
	🦀 ♥ 1:30pm doctorjazz: Don't know The Clean, though...
	1:31pm Cletus: @chresti I knew Hamish. He pronounced it HAY MISH. Americans are so damned weird lol
	♥ 1:31pm StringOFperils: Hamish: Scottish. From the Gaelic Sheumais which is a form of James, which is an English form of the Latin Jacomus, from the Hebrew Iakobos, meaning "God protects". So, Jacob, basically?
	♥ 1:33pm Jeff Golick: Sorry for your loss, @Cletus.
	🦀 ♥ 1:34pm doctorjazz: Somehow, I hear If You Could Read My Mind here...
	1:35pm Cletus: @Jeff thank you. It’s a huge loss. He used to crash at my place and was a frequent correspondent. I could see him veering. I am bereft
	♥ 1:36pm alanr: As much as I listen every Sunday for jazz and such, I am truly enjoying this part of today's show as well!!
	1:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: HolySmokes ! - the Live version Jesse Jarnow played of 'Point' : www.wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 1:37pm adamdoesit: Same same alanr.
	♥ 1:37pm Franco Twinkie: About three weeks ago a friend was telling me when he saw David Kilgore, Hamish's brother, at a small club in San Francisco. He approached with caution - testy musicians and all. No need to. David gave him ample attention. A good listener too!
	🦀 ♥ 1:38pm doctorjazz: And ditto to adamdoesit and alanr!
	♥ 1:39pm StringOFperils: I have this album, and love it naturally. Nothing unnatural.
	1:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: What I call Obituary Discoveries - only (really) becoming informed of an Artist on passing - obviously mixed, not to say confused feelings. Shame actually one of them. Especially acute when I'm enjoying the Artist as much as I am Hamish.
	🦀 ♥ 1:40pm hyde: argh, The Chills just played here and i didn't go and this song is making me feel guilty.
	🦀 ♥ 1:41pm doctorjazz: Just Googled The Clean and Hamish Kilgour, so sorry @Cletus. Didn't know them, sounds like I should have.
	🦀 ♥ 1:42pm doctorjazz: Don't know The Chills (was heavily into jazz in the 80s, missed most of the Rock/Pop world then)
	🦀 ♥ 1:42pm adamdoesit: Obituary Discoveries. Thanks for giving a name to that too-frequent, kinda-guilty, and still-pleasurable phenomenon, Rev.
	1:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: He obviously meant much to people as a Person not just an Artist. The accounts characterize them as inseparable. adamdoesit - it's quite a soup with enthusiasm & grief & other unlikely flavorings.
	♥ 1:44pm StringOFperils: @doctorjazz > Worth dipping your toe into the pool of Flying Nun Records (NZ) in general, of you like the sound of that Chills track, or The Clean. Bailter Space, a later band that Kilgour was in, made really interesting wall-of-guitar records
	1:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I suppose it's best to be Buddhist about it - & with Musics to go N'Orleans style, grab an umbrella & join the line...
	1:45pm Cletus: @doctorjazz thank you. A lot didn’t know him or the band because they were so self-effacing and modest I think
	1:49pm mic_a: Ah, still here. Looping back on a coupla points... The Pynchon 'intimidation' thing. Don't approach him as a high lit eminence. Read him as a smart-ass in the Lenny Bruce 'sick comic' lineage. Books assigned in high school are doomed. Doomed! The mass murder of literary classics. I can't even remember a single title. A report on Diane Noomin's memorial service at SVA last month: https://www.tcj.com/noominmemorial/ There's also a video of the whole event (linked in article), but it's too sad for me to watch.
	1:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Someone posited there would be no Alt scene as we know it without the early example of bands he was associated with. Interesting.
	♥ 1:49pm StringOFperils: So much like The Go-Betweens sometimes, and then not at all. So great!
	1:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @mic_a: Yeah - I reckon I gotta jump into the pool of Joyce as a swim - as Music - without the massive annotation. Pynchon books just looked literally (Literally?) weighty - appreciate the advice...
	1:51pm mic_a: Apologies for being out of sync with current threads.
	♥ 1:51pm spodiodi: hello Jeff and OUTies
	♥ 1:52pm StringOFperils: Nice cover art. Takes a lifetime to learn how to do that.
	♥ 1:53pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi spodi!
	♥ 1:53pm Jeff Golick: I do have a high school teacher (probably my fave) to thank for telling me to check out The Crying of Lot 49 -- a very good Pynchon entry point, I think.
	🦀 ♥ 1:54pm chresti: Contour drawing?
	♥ 1:54pm Jeff Golick: @StringOFperils, if you mean the Italians, I believe it's a Frisell drawing.
	♥ 1:54pm Andrew in Toronto: The Go-Betweens were great! The solo stuff is very good too.
	♥ 1:54pm StringOFperils: Detour drawing
	♥ 1:54pm spodiodi: hi Andrew!
	♥ 1:55pm coelacanth∅: what a peculiar concept, shame ("guilt") over not being familiar with something before death ends it's existence. i can't relate! ..."stupidity" is something i have felt though, when those circumstances arise!
	🦀 ♥ 1:55pm doctorjazz: Have this Unscientific Italians album, very cool! Thanks SOp, will check it out! And thanks Jeff for Destination Ooooooooouuuuuuuttttt!!! Today! Great stuff!
	1:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I think of myself as kinda from the PreAnnotation Age - before there were Links & References @ hand. (That is ...I am painfully uneducated...) It was only what you could retain in yer own head anyway. It forces one maybe to contextualize for oneself ...tho it's frustrating to always speak of you know that thing maybe you remember that maybe said this but not sure...
	♥ 1:55pm Andrew in Toronto: Great tunes Jeff! Thanks for going extra innings!
	♥ 1:55pm StringOFperils: I like the typography and everything though too, and the colour....I studied design, sorry...carried away....
	♥ 1:55pm Jeff Golick: COMING UP IN A COUPLA MINUTES: wfmu.org... Dark Night of the Soul, Sunday afternoon edition! And hi hi hi, @spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 1:55pm fred: I miss seeing live music. Rotten luck lately, dance comes first but collides
	🦀 ♥ 1:56pm zzz: thanks DJ JG!
	♥ 1:56pm StringOFperils: @Andrew > Yeah, Grant McLennan, and Robert Forster solo stuff is very nice
	1:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yes to speaking of Album Covers.
	🦀 ♥ 1:57pm adamdoesit: mic_a, one approach to Pynchon might be to think of him as a novelist of hippie chicks, talking dogs, private dicks, giant spliffs, and extremely silly names. 'fact, it's probably the silly names that pulled me in. Jeff G, thank you for setting this rainy day in musical vibration!
	♥ 1:57pm spodiodi: cya, Jeff! thanks
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm DJpeterDE: With no insult to the musicians here, this track just makes me miss Julius Hemphill (on the original)
	♥ 1:58pm Julie: thanks Jeff!
	♥ 1:58pm coelacanth∅: greetings spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	♥ 1:58pm StringOFperils: Monstrously grand finale, Jeff. I love this Unscientific Italians! Hasta la vista babay
	🦀 ♥ 1:58pm listener james from westwood: Loverly, Jeff! Go ice down your DJing hand and have a beverage of choice with the other!
	🦀 ♥ 1:59pm hyde: thanks for the 5 hour marathon!
	♥ 1:59pm Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jeff.
	🦀 ♥ 1:59pm WR: Thank you , Jeff. Onward.
	1:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Okay ! A different image of Pynchon than I've had... ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	2:00pm mic_a: Thanks Jeff and everyone.
	♥ 2:01pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	2:02pm Avrilinmay: I am sorry about this loss @Cletus, and @rev rabbit. And feeling for those who have lost a dear friend or an artist who has meant a lot to them .... grieving the loss of Efrim, in disbelief still, and I really really hope I did not jump in the chat inappropriately with the mention of another sad passing but finding jazz playing has helped with reading about him. Sorry for not commenting more before this one with the appreciation I felt towards the shows I listened to that you offered us Jeff. So thank you
	♥ 2:04pm Jeff Golick: Not at all inappropriate, @Avrilinmay, just the opposite. Welcome your words whenever you feel moved to share. Sorry for your grief, as well. Thank you for commenting. Thanks to all here, there, and everywhere.
	2:05pm Avrilinmay: <3
	🦀 ♥ 2:52pm WR: Thank you, Jeff.

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