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Favoriting December 26, 2022

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Yes  Five Percent for Nothing   Favoriting Fragile  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Triumvirat  Triangle   Favoriting Illusions on a Double Dimple  0:02:22 (Pop-up)
 
Hammer  Death to a King   Favoriting Hammer  0:12:27 (Pop-up)
 
Cheer Accident  Avoid the Invisible   Favoriting Sever Roots Tree Dies  0:19:59 (Pop-up)
Rat at Rat R  Annie Ratbite   Favoriting Stainless Steel  0:29:08 (Pop-up)
 
Premiata Forneria Marconi  River of Life   Favoriting Photos of Ghosts  0:40:10 (Pop-up)
Fred Frith  Hands of the Juggler   Favoriting Gravity  0:46:42 (Pop-up)
 
Davy Graham  Take Five   Favoriting The Guitar Player  0:58:39 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Dave! Complimacators!
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dale:

hey now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Handy Haversack:

It's go time!

MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!

One sec. Gotta feed the monsters.
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TroyD8:

Present
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
pot8o:

hi everyone!
  7:02pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

greetings from starry starry Tannersville DJDM. Go Proggo!!
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chresti:

Hi complicated Dave show!
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redkayak:

Happy Monday, all!
  7:03pm
mic_a:

Hello Dave & Progessives! Haven't heard this one since roundabout back then, thanks.
  7:03pm
Jackie G:

Oh boy. Prog! Listen to that synthesizer!
  7:03pm
mic_a:

Progressives rather.
  7:03pm
Dean:

I think I prefer the Triumvirat album prior to Illuions.
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Dave Mandl:

Greetings, all! Thanks for joining me.
  7:03pm
bleubombersune:

Dave progmania
  7:03pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

awoken and bokin'!!
cream sherry with my stuffed shells.
Avatar 🤯 7:04pm
HollyRT:

Post-xmas greetings Dave and gang
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dday:

Hard to believe that at one point Doug Fieger of The Knack was the bass player in Triumvirat
  7:04pm
mic_a:

Mediterranean Tales? That's the one I still have.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...still a Prawg in dat 2022
& flip it ovah !
...Do this. Do it now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
ultradamno:

Checking my RIO bingo card against this show, I still need a Univers Zero and an After Dinner (or Haco in a pinch)....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:04
*STICK. STICK a Prawg
...nevermind
...good evening.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
ultradamno:

↳ dday @7:04
...and The Police were a Curved Air offshoot band
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Dave Mandl:

@dday: What.
  7:05pm
Dean:

The fuck? No he wasn't? Feiger. His stupid band opened for my stupid and at the Masque per-Knack.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Dave and all!!!
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Dave Mandl:

True about the Police, though.
Avatar 7:06pm
Dave Mandl:

@ultradamno: There will be After Dinner at some point. Probably not today.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:07pm
maestroso:

I'm pretty sure I played this Triumvirat piece in a prog band back in my yoot.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:07pm
DjLorraine:

I'm here for the prog heat🌶️
  7:08pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

loving this
  7:08pm
Dean:

Yeah, well, Stewart Copeland. To my mind not particularly talented. Metronome to a fault.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm
Destroit:

Hi Dave and everyone. Pissed i missed Arb, but i’m lickin my wounds haha
  7:09pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

des, get a robot to do it
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dday:

I just watched an hour long British documentary on ELP 1970 - 1992. Typically bad in that it's a collection of music critics with an occasional "producer" and an actual musician (the best part as he breaks down the actual song structures, chord voicings etc.). Grainy footage from 73 - 9? (that's all that exists) was great to watch the live stuff. The "review" aspects of the doc are horrible. Covered ELP 1st through Black Moon.
Avatar 7:10pm
Coach32sm:

Reminds me of Scott Muni!!!!
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redkayak:

Hammer-adjacent...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:11pm
efd:

from the biography at triumvirat.net:

Hans Bathelt recalls, "Jürgen and I stayed in L.A. and auditioned a few bass players. We decided on Doug Fieger [who later formed "The Knack" and had a hit single with "My Sharona"]. As EMI wanted us to record a new album in Germany, we had to go back. Things were very chaotic at that time. We hadn't written enough material, studio sessions were canceled, and so on. Very soon Doug got fed up with the situation and left.

www.triumvirat.net...
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dday:

↳ Dean @7:05
Somewhere I have an article from doug's brother, but it's mentioned here as well: forums.stevehoffman.tv...
  7:12pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

don't hurt them hammer!
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:12pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

I love how informative and educational WFMU can be!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:13pm
ultradamno:

Hammer, don't hurt 'em!
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dday:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:05
See my reply to Dean
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:14pm
chresti:

I spit on spotify (Mark H could add that to his closing statement)
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dday:

↳ ultradamno @7:05
Yep Copeland played in Curvedc Air as did Roxy/Zappa violinist & keyboardist Eddie Jobson
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
efd:

↳ dday @7:14
and my post at 7:11 that wasn't a reply to anyone
Avatar 7:15pm
Dave Mandl:

@chersti: Haha, yes, Mark would definitely say that.
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dday:

↳ efd @7:11
Yep efd. quoted in my reply
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Dave Mandl:

@efd: Amazing. I had no idea. And I saw that too late to mention it on the air.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
ultradamno:

↳ chresti @7:14
Maybe not on air, unless he goes altstream
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dday:

↳ efd @7:15
aha :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:17pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @7:16
(he may owe Arb a fill-in now, so....)
  7:17pm
ike-o:

Peace
  7:18pm
Carmichael:

Heya proggers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:18pm
ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Death to a King" by "Hammer"
I'm telling you boy, you can't touch this
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
ultradamno:

Kind of in the post-sonic youth gtr noise scene, as I recall
Avatar 🤯 7:21pm
TroyD8:

↳ Song: "Triangle" by "Triumvirat"
Triumvirat are not on Spotify 😖
  7:22pm
Listener Robert:

Until your show the most complicated time signatures I'd heard had been some Serbian music someone played on WFMU in the 1990s.

Don Meinshausen (living here now) says hi.
  7:22pm
mic_a:

Definite strains of King Crimson here.
Avatar 7:22pm
Dave Mandl:

@TroyD8: Their stuff is very hard to find! We have one LP of theirs here at FMU, and it was in the basement, where...less popular records end up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
Kat in Chicago:

Cheer-Accident! Chicago prog!
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Dave Mandl:

@Robert: Say hi back to Don M.!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
ultradamno:

Started in Philadelphia, according to discogs (RARR, that is)
Avatar 7:24pm
Dave Mandl:

@ultradamno: Probably. I think Ron Anderson is originally from PA.
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dday:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:22
I had "Illusions.." & "Spartacus" at one point. Lent them out..never got them back
  7:25pm
Carmichael:

Trying to rewire my new tv and sound system to this. Somehow it’s a perfect fit
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm
Kat in Chicago:

although I don't think we were calling it prog in 1988. I don't remember what we called them!
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TroyD8:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:22
Had the vinyl with the mouse inside the lightbulb on the cover as a kid.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
Ciggy:

It was WNEW-FM's Jonathan Schwartz who introduced me to Jade Warrior, and to Gentle Giant's progressive rock masterpiece In a Glass House, which inexplicably did not receive a U.S. LP release...
Mark Fleischmann (2017)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
ultradamno:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:24
Byron Coley says it here too trouserpress.com...
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:29pm
Webhamster Henry:

I may have to add some new categories to my Prog Bingo Card.
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dday:

↳ Ciggy @7:27
Loved Scott Muni's Friday "Things From England" segments.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:30pm
ultradamno:

(I tried using an anagram solver and closest it got was Ratatat, which is an electronic act from the noughts)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm
Destroit:

Banger
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TroyD8:

This is so good!
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Juli:

My brain needs this music rn
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Dave Mandl:

@Juli At your service.
  7:33pm
Jackie G:

↳ Ciggy @7:27
Always liked Jade Warrior
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Juli:

Enjoyable for the brain feed
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redkayak:

Rat-adjacent ;)
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Juli:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:33
Tyyyyyyy kindly
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm
Ciggy:

↳ dday @7:29
Me too, but less so. I was moving into Post Punk / New Music by then. Great musical spectrum at the time. Well, it's been like that all of my time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:37pm
Destroit:

Rat at Rat R. Never heard of them. That was pretty damn awesome
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
Destroit:

A ton of education packed into this hour. Love it.
  7:38pm
Jackie G:

David Pakman
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:39pm
Destroit:

On a scale of 1-10, my prog knowledge prolly a 3.
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redkayak:

I see Cheer Accident on Bandcamp!
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PaulRobeson1922:

Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi HI
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:40pm
Destroit:

On a scale of 1-10, band name of Cheer Accident a 9.3.
  7:40pm
Carmichael:

Yay, PFM!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:41pm
dale:

sounds like hocus pocus when they aren't yodeling.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:41pm
ultradamno:

Doug's brother was Geoffrey Fieger, the lawyer who defended Kevorkian. For whatever that's worth.
  7:42pm
Thomas:

Photos of Ghosts one of my favorite prog albums
  7:43pm
brucy:

The PFM gonna rock ya
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:43pm
PaulRobeson1922:

Ain't IT always an accident? U can’t remember where IT was!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:43pm
Ciggy:

@dday ~ didn't you mention PFM in one of the earliest episodes of It's Complicated?
  7:44pm
Dean:

I'm sorry, but I need proof that Fieger played with Triumviat.

Long ago my shitty band played the Masque in Hollywood. Opening for us, Fieger's band Sunset Bombers. We asked them to borrow their amps. He wouldn't have anything to do with it.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:44pm
Elena:

↳ Song: "River of Life" by "Premiata Forneria Marconi"
Ok, this so reminds me of Eduard Artemyev, composer for Tarkovsky, and indeed he is named as a "progressive artist from Russia" here: www.progarchives.com...
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Dave Mandl:

Someone def. mentioned PFM, and rightly so.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:45pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "River of Life" by "Premiata Forneria Marconi"
...SpinalTap 6" Stonehenge moment of the week achieved...
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chresti:

It's nice when a DJ enjoys the commenting commenters.
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dday:

↳ Ciggy @7:43
yes i did :) same for seventh wave
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm
Ciggy:

↳ Dean @7:44
Hey Dean
You really got it in for that guy
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Dave Mandl:

@chersti: Oh, we all do. The comments board was a great development in FMU's history.
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redkayak:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:45
Heh...
  7:46pm
mic_a:

Did Fieger actually play with them or was it a rehearsal/recording plans situation that never worked out?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm
dale:

some nice mellotron here. unimaginative, more like a string section but still....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:47pm
ultradamno:

↳ mic_a @7:46
Kind of sounds more like the latter situation
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Coach32sm:

Frith!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm
PaulRobeson1922:

↳ Song: "River of Life" by "Premiata Forneria Marconi"
I'm going but I need a little time
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm
Handy Haversack:

Decided to feed myself, too. Sounding great, Dave!
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chresti:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:46
Glad to hear that!
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dday:

↳ mic_a @7:46
According to the articles , they auditioned & selected Fieger to play bass (in The Knack he was lead singer, rhythm guitarist & principal songwriter), then the band couldn't get it's act together to record & Fieger left prior to doing anything with them.
  7:50pm
mic_a:

Fred! At one point during the Skeleton Crew show I caught, his guitar strap let go, and unlike the distraught or grouchy reaction almost any other guitarist would have, he just laughed and rolled with it.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:50pm
maestroso:

Man, this is such a great show, thanks!
  7:51pm
bobbobob drummer.plasticland:

I don't know where EFD got that in info from but it's not true..the only thing that is remotely inherent is both were on Capitol
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Coach32sm:

Chris Cutler on percussion?????
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:51pm
Destroit:

Thinkin the same thing maestroso. This Frith track is serious
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:51pm
chresti:

↳ Song: "Hands of the Juggler" by "Fred Frith"
Sounding like belly dance music here
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Dave Mandl:

@Coach32sm: Nope, not Cutler.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:52pm
ultradamno:

↳ Coach32sm @7:51
Frith is credited with drums himself on this record
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Coach32sm:

uuuhhhm!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
pot8o:

thanks dave!
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @7:52
Correction: Paul Sears on that track
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dday:

↳ bobbobob drummer.plasticland @7:51
Apparently it's a quote from Triumvirat drummer Hans Bathelt: Apparently, Doug Fieger of The Knack joined prog rock band Triumvirat after their tour for Spartacus (but left when the band experienced delays in moving forward for their next album, Old Loves Die Hard).

Hans Bathelt recalls, "Jürgen and I stayed in L.A. and auditioned a few bass players. We decided on Doug Fieger [who later formed "The Knack" and had a hit single with "My Sharona"]. As EMI wanted us to record a new album in Germany, we had to go back. Things were very chaotic at that time. We hadn't written enough material, studio sessions were canceled, and so on. Very soon Doug got fed up with the situation and left. We thought of Werner Frangenberg and he rejoined on bass. With an ad in the "Melody Maker," we found Barry Palmer for vocals."
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TroyD8:

Thanks again Dave for another outstanding program!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
dale:

re: people who don't celebrate....nice to hang with people who don't necessarily believe in a personal jesus.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm
Ciggy:

C'mon @Dave Mandl - it's easy to pronounce
It sounds just like it's written!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @7:55
Correction to the correction, Sears plays on the fourth track on the other side, this was Hasse Bruniusson
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm
ultradamno:

Argh!
  7:57pm
mic_a:

You need to do your favorites of 1972, Dave. Thanks for another big slice of prog pie, here! Best wishes folks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
spodiodi:

thanks, Dave
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Dave!!! great show man!!!
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PaulRobeson1922:

Free fall flow river flow, on and on IT goes
  7:59pm
mic_a:

Father of DADGAD.
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Dave Mandl:

Thanks, everyone. You're the best. Have a great new year!
  7:59pm
Jackie G:

Thanks, man. We likee prog. Yes, we do.
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Elena:

Thanks Dave. Educational as always.
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dday:

Davey Graham's "Cry Me A River" is what Zeppelin should've been sued for ripping off for Stairway..not Taurus
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
Webhamster Henry:

Gaylord put out a great premium collection called "The Meter Is Running" of non 4/4 or 3/4 tunes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ efd @7:11
Who? EMI!!

Hello, EMI. Gooooooodbye!

Many thanks, Dave! Great show, as ever. Happy New Year (unless somehow I see you around Greenpoint beforehand -- in which case I'll say so in person!).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
Destroit:

Thanks Dave!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
dale:

thanks dave. a great new year to everyone here.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 8:01pm
Webhamster Henry:

Thanks for the Prog Education and see ya Next Year!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm
listener 126464:

Thanks Dave Mandl.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
chresti:

Thanks Dave! Happy new year!
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