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Yes  Five Percent for Nothing   Favoriting Fragile  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Gong  A Sprinkling of Clouds   Favoriting You  0:02:42 (Pop-up)
Steve Hillage  Hiram Afterglid Meets the Dervish   Favoriting Fish Rising  0:11:21 (Pop-up)
 
Fievel Is Glauque  Clues Not to Read   Favoriting Flaming Swords  0:19:57 (Pop-up)
Fruupp  Knowing You   Favoriting The Prince of Heaven's Eyes  0:24:38 (Pop-up)
 
Frank Zappa  Tink Walks Amok   Favoriting The Man from Utopia  0:39:19 (Pop-up)
Alain Bellaïche  Sea Flourescent   Favoriting Sea Flourescent  0:43:04 (Pop-up)
 
Talking Heads  Animals   Favoriting Fear of Music  0:54:38 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

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dday:

the paranoia hour has passed...here's some Prog Paranoia: www.youtube.com...
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dday:

Good Evening Dave & Happy New Year
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dale:

herro prognosticators.
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Handy Haversack:

It's go time!

MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
  7:01pm
bleubombersune:

Dave Good evening all progolytes
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Dave Mandl and all!!!
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ultradamno:

Dave! Commuters!
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redkayak:

Happy Monday all :)
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Ciggy:

Wow. After Mark's show I could really go for some Surveillance Free PROG
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Kat in Chicago:

Let us prog!
  7:02pm
ike-o:

Peace
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dday:

You mean dirty filthy hippies? :)
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chresti:

Hi Dave Mandl complicated show!
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basil-the-lizard:

Let's Progress!!
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Fuzzy:

Weezy! He's doing a Gong show tonight!
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HollyRT:

Evening all!
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chresti:

Yeah man pot!
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PaulRobeson1923:

G O N G
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dale:

'real' hippies must equal dirty hippies.
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dday:

Playing some Hillage "L" tonight?
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Dave Mandl:

Evening and welcome, friends.
  7:03pm
mic_a:

Hello Dave and proggle people!
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Webhamster Henry:

Another Giorgio Gomelsky project...
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chresti:

Real hippies don't use deodorant
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slugluv1313:

filthy hippies!!!

peace and love, hate and war! greetings, Dave, Proggers
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Coach32sm:

You go Gong!!!
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dday:

↳ chresti @7:04
They rub crystals in their pits
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StringOFperils:

Gnome on!
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basil-the-lizard:

↳ dday @7:04
I wish I didn't know that this was true 😆
  7:05pm
mic_a:

Ah, Gong. Now for me, they were more like psych-jazz-rock than prog.
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dday:

The GONG Show? Where's Chuck Barris?
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ultradamno:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:04
But, perfumed, being in France
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Ciggy:

Is a Greaser dirtier than a hippie
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Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ:

Good evening Dave. Gong, talking about pot? Perhaps this program should be adjacent to Wake n Bake.
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chresti:

↳ dday @7:04
I've tried that!
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Handy Haversack:

↳ StringOFperils @7:04
Or as the Sunwatchers show their influencees, "Gnomon!"
  7:06pm
listener monica:

I haven't listened to gong in awhile! thank you!
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dday:

↳ basil-the-lizard @7:05
I use Folgers with flavor crystals myself
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yes - the ChuckBarris PalisadesPark PrawgShow
...very prominent Keyboard sound....
Avatar 7:07pm
slugluv1313:

↳ Ciggy @7:05
good question! is a crust punk diritier than a filthy hippie?
  7:07pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "A Sprinkling of Clouds" by "Gong"
This Gong is good
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pot8o:

hi everyone!
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luka:

hi everyone
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chresti:

↳ Ciggy @7:05
Greasers are greasier than hippies
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ultradamno:

↳ Ciggy @7:05
No, the grease is applied, not necessarily accumulated. Now a dirtbag...
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Dave Mandl:

@Peter: These guys baked at all hours, not just in the morning.
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StringOFperils:

Wake n Bake has a pixie connection to this
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dale:

this is a slice of alright however you classify it. kinda like tangerine dream. maybe tangelo day dream.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @7:07
...as in 'greasy kid stuff'
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dday:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:07
Me likey this GONG
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Coach32sm:

As a huge Kerouac fan, can't help but like Daevid Allen for at least befriending Burroughs!!
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StringOFperils:

Tim Blake?
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chresti:

↳ ultradamno @7:07
Also axel grease
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PaulRobeson1923:

So long as you cannot go beyond the Hip Pies my child, you cannot reach the way. This way. That way. The end
  7:08pm
mic_a:

Tim Blake, yes.
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slugluv1313:

↳ ultradamno @7:05
haha! i envision them talking/looking like Cone Heads
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ultradamno:

↳ chresti @7:08
That would be more applicable to 'grease monkeys' than 'greasers' however, per se
  7:10pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "A Sprinkling of Clouds" by "Gong"
This Gong is a keeper.
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @7:09
ipso facto, in extremis, etc.
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basil-the-lizard:

Anybody else ever think about how the drummer is like the most important part of any jam session , shots fired to all non drummer musicians but that is my dumb non musician take
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...then there's how ChuckBarris & Sherman Hemsley related over Prawg & Gong ...but that's another tale...
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slugluv1313:

does my "LOVE beauty AND planet" (vegan) deodorant qualify as hippie?
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StringOFperils:

Deodorant and hippie cancel each other out
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ basil-the-lizard @7:10
All else fails ...follow the Drummer.
If yer lucky.
  7:12pm
mic_a:

I still have most of my Gong albums... even the cycle racing movie soundtrack -- uhhh... "Continental Circus".
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chresti:

↳ basil-the-lizard @7:10
I agree, drummers are my favorite -when they're good
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:11
Target hippie? :)
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:12
I mean - as a Player.
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Carmichael:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:11
Not hippie, just "earthy" ...
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Barry P.:

Evening all. Last week we heard Dave Stewart with Bruford, and here is on keys with Hillage. The king of Canterbury.
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StringOFperils:

↳ mic_a @7:12
Nice! And now, I for some deep envy...
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chresti:

I'm somewhere between a hippy and a greaser-
  7:14pm
mic_a:

Repeating myself from another week... teenage me talked briefly to Mr. Hillage on the telephone when he paid a visit to Philly's WXPN. Point being: real nice guy.
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dday:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:11
George Jefferson rocking out to Nektar: www.youtube.com...
  7:14pm
Listener Robert:

Fish rise when the body of water they're in is short of oxygen. They rise even more when they're dead.
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redkayak:

This is rad...
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Carmichael:

↳ Barry P. @7:13
I thought Robert Wyatt was the king of Canterbury? Seriously, so many Canterbury bands from the 70s ...
  7:14pm
mic_a:

And I still love this album.
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slugluv1313:

↳ Kat in Chicago @7:12
haha! Walgreens hippie too?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

When TomDash did Hawkwind vs. Gong :
www.wfmu.org...
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Barry P.:

↳ Carmichael @7:14
I think Dave was in more bands, but yes Wyatt was a huge figure in that scene
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slugluv1313:

↳ Kat in Chicago @7:12
hi Kat!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Hiram Afterglid Meets the Dervish" by "Steve Hill...
Kinda Mahavishu-eesh with more head banging.
  7:16pm
Jackie G:

We off to a flying start today.
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Ciggy:

↳ chresti @7:13
I'm somewhere between a a greaser and a collegiate - if that's possible
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dday:

Mentioned Camels "Nude" LP this morning (Herbie Flowers played tuba on a track). Interesting record
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:15
haha I guess that's at Walgreens too. saw it at Target first.
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slugluv1313:

↳ Carmichael @7:13
haha! well this one is called "refreshing" (like my hippie incense in the 70s??)

hi Carmichael!
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Carmichael:

↳ dday @7:16
I'm a huge Camel fan, also Caravan.
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PaulRobeson1923:

G O N G H I P P I E H B O M B
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slugluv1313:

↳ chresti @7:13
hi chresti! i hope all is well!
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ultradamno:

↳ Ciggy @7:16
I think that may be a subset of the 'teddy boy' designation
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Coach32sm:

He was moving on up (to the East side)
  7:19pm
gabe:

nektar are playing in albany mar 9
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Ciggy:

↳ ultradamno @7:18
I can see that
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slugluv1313:

NEKTAR!!! remember the future!
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Kat in Chicago:

Yeah I saw them open for Stereolab in Chicago
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dday:

↳ Carmichael @7:17
Camel cancelled a gig opening for Renaissance 74 or 75, that I had tix to & Caravan wound up opening. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night tour. Excellent show
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chresti:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:13
excessive guitar noodling annoys me at times
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efd:

very much not a fan of this band name.
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Carmichael:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:19
I have that LP, slug. It's really great. A record store guy turned me on to them.
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Dave Mandl:

↳ efd @7:20
:-(
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dday:

↳ gabe @7:19
I heard a clip from a previous Albany show the other night. Not the same since Roye passed. I helped Roye acquire a 1965 Epiphone Casino he was looking for in 2009. Really nice guy.
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ efd @7:20
it looked pretty dumb on the Riviera Theatre marquee, like someone just put up a bunch of leftover letters
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TroyD8:

That was news to me about Sherman Hemsley being a lover of Prog David!
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slugluv1313:

↳ Kat in Chicago @7:16
the Acme across the street has some of their shampoos -- IT'S A HIPPIE CONSPIRACY!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:19
Me too - sometimes - even when I'm doing it.
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SeaCreature:

Saw that ‘Lab show, and the opener, here, was great.
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Dave Mandl:

↳ TroyD8 @7:21
Look it up. There are some wild stories, and he played a Nektar record on the show.
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HollyRT:

glauque is French slang that means sordid or louche
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Barry P.:

↳ Song: "Clues Not to Read" by "Fievel Is Glauque"
Interesting jazz sensibility.
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Dave Mandl:

↳ HollyRT @7:22
Aha. Thanks, Holly.
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chresti:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:21
noodling to nowhere..
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slugluv1313:

↳ dday @7:19
that sounds like an amazing show! *jealous*
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HollyRT:

Fievel is the mouse's name from An American Tale
  7:23pm
mic_a:

I remember a TV Guide article on Hemsley, posing in his caftan with a poster of the "Topographic Oceans" cover on the wall behind him.
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Handy Haversack:

Fievel Is Glacque opened for Stereolab on a bunch of dates -- as Dave just said.

We had a really different reaction to them -- we saw them first in Hudson, and it seemed like three different bands. And the singer just seemed miserable, like she did not want to be there. All of this is just a subjective impression, of course, but it was really striking to us both.

Then at the Brooklyn show I didn't even press into the crowd during their set and waited for the main event.

Though other people whom I respect a lot have also told me how much they like this band. So it's just a very situational reaction.
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Carmichael:

Found this in an interview: "Fievel is the mouse of cartoon fame (though neither of us have seen those movies) and "glauque" (rhymes with "oak") is a French word notable for describing both a pale, bluish green and meaning creepy/sleazy/sordid/sinister. My own post-hoc rationalized interpretation goes something like this: gentrification functionally targets run-down, destitute, "glauque" areas; Fievel is an off-brand, "social realist" Mickey Mouse; accordingly, the name means something like "gentrify Mickey Mouse."
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HollyRT:

My chorus teacher in 8th grade had a ceramic rabbit named "Fievel." I just now remembered that
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Barry P.:

↳ mic_a @7:23
Yes, I remember him saying how much he loved Tales.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:22
Friend: 'I don't like Jazz. If they don't know where they're going why should I care.'
Me: 'Maybe they know but they're just not in a hurry.'
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Malcontent:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:22
Not only played... danced across the set.

www.youtube.com...
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dday:

↳ Dave Mandl @7:22
also TroyD8: take a look at my comment at 7:14..Sherman/Nektar.

They used to live in the Denville or Dover area for a bit (I forget which).

An old drummer friend of mine ran into them at some rehearsal space
  7:25pm
Jackie G:

No saxophones in prog, please.
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:24
I didn't know what to make of them, myself
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Ciggy:

↳ TroyD8 @7:21
Here's the YouTube of Hemsley dancing to Nektar
youtu.be...
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dday:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:23
It was
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chresti:

↳ chresti @7:22
What's worse is a noodler that keeps turning it up to drown everyone else out.
  7:25pm
Rob from Maryland:

Dave, I just saw your Mastodon post (boosted by Evan Davies). I recognized the associated photo before reading your post. So, here I am. I (and my wife) love Gong (which sadly we missed).
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Dave Mandl:

@Rob: Aha. Thanks!
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Ciggy:

↳ mic_a @7:23
I remember the TV Guide article
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HollyRT:

Fruup! I really like these guys
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TroyD8:

↳ dday @7:14
Nice! 😁
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Carmichael:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:24
In jazz, it's not the destination. It's the journey itself.
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StringOFperils:

Not a fan of earnest lyrics. I prefer insincerity in my lyrics.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:25
...& they called it 'Rawk'n'Roll'...
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Marshland:

Annie Austere by Fruup was played a lot back in the 70s, catchy...
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ultradamno:

I think I used up all my band name complaining points for the month on Professor Gizzard and Lizard Blizzard or whatever that was...
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dday:

Froopp
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Handy Haversack:

↳ Kat in Chicago @7:25
Kat, during the Hudson show, they also struck me as three separate bands all sort of playing the same show at the same time but with wildly different priorities!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Carmichael @7:27
That might be more succinct (if not as snappy a comeback).
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:28
I can imagine that!
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TroyD8:

↳ Ciggy @7:25
Love this!
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slugluv1313:

↳ Carmichael @7:20
yes, i remember! (hah!) great album!

never had the LP, but i would borrow it from the local library (the dude who acquired the LPs for the library was *sorta* hippie-ish, right down to the macrame belt and the wire frame glasses -- BUT he also got stuff like the Velvet Underground records, Mott the Hoople, Silverhead, etc. for the library)

and of course it was all over "progressive rock" FM radio :)
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:28
Somehow that reminds me of a JulianCope autobiography.
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Barry P.:

↳ Song: "Knowing You" by "Fruupp"
Reminds me of Happy The Man.
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chresti:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:24
I think LSD leads to noodling
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Handy Haversack:

↳ slugluv1313 @7:29
I screwed it all up and got the wire belt and the macrame glasses.
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Carmichael:

↳ Barry P. @7:30
Yes, Crafty Hands their best, in my opinion. On Cuneiform, iirc?
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Kat in Chicago:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:31
Oh, Handy.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:30
There may be some historical evidence to this effect.
  7:32pm
mic_a:

It's like they're exploring all over the Middle Earth map of prog styles.
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Barry P.:

↳ Carmichael @7:31
I have only one of theirs, an early collection, don't remember the name
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StringOFperils:

Some great chords in this. Strange passing dissonance in places. Me likey
  7:34pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "Knowing You" by "Fruupp"
Better without the singing
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:32
Yeah but - still no 6" SpinalTap Stonehenge moment this week...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ mic_a @7:32
[wrong thread ...is a Thing now...]
Yeah but - still no 6" SpinalTap Stonehenge moment this week...
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dale:

this is fruuppertronics.
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dday:

Fruupp from the days when the bands thought the record company was paying for those 2" reels ...
  7:36pm
fnoib:

what, no Starcastle? great programming!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...& who is this Ad Jason
...& why can't he get his own Prawg show - & take his Ads with him...
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HollyRT:

↳ fnoib @7:36
Dave played them Week 1 or 2
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dday:

Inca Roads is pretty progish (One Size Fits All version)
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dday:

TINK!!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ dday @7:38
Yeah disagree. Would say Zappa's *@ least* as Prawg as Ad Jason.
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Coach32sm:

No pancake breakfast????
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dday:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:39
Actually I despise labels but realize they are necessary. If the track is good, I don't care what they call it :)
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StringOFperils:

This qualifies. And it's 100% mudshark-free, so that's a big plus also.
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Barry P.:

↳ Coach32sm @7:40
St. Alphonso would be proud of you.
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Dave Mandl:

↳ Coach32sm @7:40
St. Alfonso has great playing on it, but not prog enough.
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ultradamno:

Is it a phase shifter giving the boingy effect? That's a very prog move.
  7:41pm
mic_a:

To me, Zappa was never of prog, but he certainly set it up in the 60s.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Coach32sm @7:40
...as she ABUUUUZED thuh sawsagepatty
- & said Why Dont'choo Treeet Me Meeean...
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Dave Mandl:

↳ Barry P. @7:41
I see what you did there.
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Kat in Chicago:

Bring back that margareene!
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Carmichael:

↳ mic_a @7:41
Some prog elements, but I agree that he's not PROG prog.
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Barry P.:

Echidna's Arf is very proggy.
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StringOFperils:

All the parts that Frank wrote for Ruth Underwood are prog-adjacent
  7:43pm
mic_a:

He was a lot more influential on European bands. Listen to "Call Any Vegetable" (especially some of the instrumental sections) and then listen to some of the early 70s European prog, even the mighty Cow.
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Carmichael:

↳ Song: "Tink Walks Amok" by "Frank Zappa"
Read more than once that this album title was a reference to Todd R, in a not-so-nice way.
  7:44pm
mic_a:

I thought it referred to the old R&B song.
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Jackie G:

Guess Zappa could do whatever he wanted to do. However the spirit moved him.
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ultradamno:

This talkback is like the prog star chamber deciding which villagers must be sent to fend for themselves in the forest for insufficiently adhering to the principles laid down from the great Prog.
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redkayak:

I miss old Frank. He was taken too soon...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Carmichael @7:43
...that's a thing, I think. These days, people reflecting a lot on how Satire should Punch Up. There was (is?) a certain kinda 1970s humor that punched in every possible direction maybe. Like SNL sometimes. Maybe you NYC types are like that - I dunno...
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dale:

i was eating dinner. did anyone post the vid of george jefferson dancing to nektar? i apologize if they did....

www.youtube.com...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:46
- tho Zappa was very L.A. of course...
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Coach32sm:

To be Frank, Frank was Frank!!!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Coach32sm @7:47
...Frankly.
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StringOFperils:

↳ redkayak @7:46
Agreed. He was just getting to do the serious work he always wanted to do, I think, and I don't think he'd gotten over the hump on that yet, but he would have composed richer music as time went on. IMO
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Jackie G:

↳ dale @7:47
Twice
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ultradamno:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:46
I think of 'punching up' coming more from George Carlin in the 70s and SNL
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redkayak:

↳ StringOFperils @7:47
I think so...
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dale:

↳ Jackie G @7:48
oh. HA HA haa.....ooph.
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ultradamno:

But it's always been in the satire tradition. I think of the weasely 'punching at both sides stuff' as coming from South Park
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ StringOFperils @7:47
This is a point. @ the time ('94?) - I didn't feel the Musical loss of Zappa so much. Beacause there was ...so much ! But I knew I'd miss his sociocultural Voice right away. Put it that way, tho...
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Handy Haversack:

Gonna go start chopping things. Thanks, Dave! Always a pleasure!

Stay complicated, everyone.
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ultradamno:

Zappa, for me, is a Beefheart appendage that added little. And the guy whose daughter did Valley Girl
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Missed Hillage, alas. He is due to tour the US later this year. Might have to spring for the big box, too.
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ultradamno:

Dancing Fool was OK
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redkayak:

Have a great week everybody....
Thank you again, Mr. Mandl!
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dale:

i met frankie when they played in middletown ny in a park. nice guy. he sat down and chatted with me, mainly because i had an extra chair and it was really hot.
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Dean:

On second thought, might not spring for the box, which was released in '16 and quickly evaporated.
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Barefoot Jimmy G:

Dave! TELEVISION!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ ultradamno @7:51
Meaning you just want to disregard him, so you're being reductive.
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TroyD8:

Thanks for the fantastic show Dave & Prog people!
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StringOFperils:

Frank wrote some beautiful things, even in the rock arena. Sofa no. 2 is rewarding. Black Napkins., etc..As long as he's in the cultural memory, he'll be controversial. To some he'll still be garbage, to others a serious composer. Pierre Boulez was paying attention. For what that's worth. It's personal.
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ultradamno:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:54
Or I just don't like him because of his smarmy suckiness
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pot8o:

thanks dave! have a great rest of the week everyone!
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ultradamno:

I was hoping for one of the weirder Crucifucks tracks.
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Carmichael:

↳ ultradamno @7:55
Yeah, sometimes he's holier than thou, sometimes he's Spike Jones.
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ANIMALS! Thank you, Dave. My favorite album. I never thought about the time signature. ... And that skip at the beginning made it like 6/4 for a second.
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redkayak:

Great track here...
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alan the painter:

dern can nOt turn up...enough, yes the Theads were best early!!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ ultradamno @7:55
Well obviously you don't like him if you willfully disregard him.
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mic_a:

We are comfortably in adjacent territory here. Thanks for another week's confusion, Dave.
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bobobob fabtriplasticland milwaukee:

Jerry Harrison ..drank with him at The Mad Planet by my house in Milwaukee riverwest
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ultradamno:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:57
Which doesn't mean he deserves any better, thanks
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bobobobobobob:

rev Rabbit hey
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Barry P.:

Thanks Dave!
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Jackie G:

Cool prog show. Thanks, man.
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ultradamno:

"I don't think he likes himself very much and I think he's right" - Lou Reed.
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bleubombersune:

Dave great start to adding to my weekly confusion All stay safe and be well
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Punk is sometimes ArtRawk - if the Art is dAda. Tho that's not equivalent to Prawg.
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HollyRT:

Nite all
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Dave Mandl:

Night, all!
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StringOFperils:

Thanks, Dave.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ ultradamno @7:58
...cause hanging with Lou was always Quality Time. Is the logic.
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Dave, great show!!!
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slugluv1313:

thanks for the prog, Dave!
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Ciggy:

GONG those Hippies
Great Show
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DaveMandl ~
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ultradamno:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:59
Nah, just that he got that one right
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dday:

↳ StringOFperils @7:47
I reccomend "The Real Frank Zappa Book" by FRANK ZAPPA. It clears up all the rumors.
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alan the painter:

wild crazy show, thank you bIg!
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alan the painter:

sweet ironing,
butt ChristinE Puuurfect was gReat B4 F-wood Makey!
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