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Favoriting May 11, 2023: 299 round Bessie Smith

This is a first. Today your DJ has some help from ChatGPT, because yesterday his 23 year old niece asked him if he had ever used that. He hadn't sofar, so here we boldly go where no Jan T. has gone before!

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Bessie Smith photographed by Carl Van Vechten
Bessie Smith photographed by Carl Van Vechten
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Bessie Smith photographed by Carl Van Vechten

Artist Track Year Comments Images Approx. start time
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Bessie Smith  Nobody In Town Can Bake A Sweet Jelly Roll Like Mine   Favoriting 1923   
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Abe Lyman  When You Were the Girl on the Scooter   Favoriting 1933   
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Duo Scholten & Van Het Zelfde  Doe Je Schoenen Aan Lucie   Favoriting 1956  Henk Scholten (1919-1983) & Ab van 't Zelfde (1918-2005) 
Henk Scholten
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Blue and White Marimba Band  My Isle of Golden Dreams   Favoriting 1920   
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Caterina Valente  Ich Wär So Gern Bei Dir   Favoriting 1957  + Club Italia & Silvio Francesco 
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Bessie Smith  Follow The Deal On Down   Favoriting 1924   
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Berard  Le train fatal   Favoriting 1920-29   
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Xavier Cugat  One Two Three Kick - Conga   Favoriting 1939   
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Hebra Zusjes  Nick Nack Paddy Whack (in Dutch)   Favoriting 1959   
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Horace Henderson And His Orchestra  I'm Rhythm Crazy Now   Favoriting 1941   
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Bessie Smith  Reckless Blues   Favoriting 1925   
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Van & Schenck  Marimba   Favoriting 1920   
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Albert Bol  Kees de kruier   Favoriting 1911  Kruier = Porter 
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Brother Bones  Jingle Jangle Jingle   Favoriting    
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Stratos Payioumdzis  Thrinos sto Elassona (Lament In The Minor)   Favoriting 1932-1946   
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Bessie Smith  Nashville Woman's Blues   Favoriting 1926   
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Will Glahé  Grillenhochzeit   Favoriting 1937   
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Golden Gate Quartet  Behold The Bridegroom   Favoriting 1937   
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Jacques Brel  Ballade   Favoriting 1953   
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Jolly Orchestra  Abonsa (Highlife) [Nigeria]   Favoriting 1936   
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Bessie Smith  Mean Old Begbug Blues   Favoriting 1927   
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Matt Keefe  Sleep, baby, sleep   Favoriting 1917   
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Wilf Carter  Sleep little one sleep   Favoriting 1952   
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Catherine Sauvage  Berceuse Pour Demain   Favoriting 1955   
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Kåre korneliussens kvartett  Knuppen reinlender   Favoriting    
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Bessie Smith  Empty Bed Blues   Favoriting 1928   
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Herman Dijkstra Trio  Dr Heckle And Mr Jibe   Favoriting 1944   
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John Yorke AtLee  The Devils March   Favoriting 1898   
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Al Jolson  Miami   Favoriting 1925   
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Goofus Five  Clementine   Favoriting 1927   
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Bessie Smith  Blue Spirit Blues   Favoriting 1929   
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Johan Kaart  Geen Geld En Toch Geen Zorgen   Favoriting 1934  with Jopie Koopmans & Harry Collin 
Johan Kaart
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Johan Kaart
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Gajananrao Joshi Of Aundh  Violin Instrumental Bihag   Favoriting 1935   
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Bessie Smith  Graveyard Dream Blues   Favoriting 1923   
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Mickey Katz  Sound Off   Favoriting 1951   
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Bessie Smith  Black Mountain Blues   Favoriting 1930   
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Lots and lots of other audio antiquities on WFMU:

Centennial Songs - The Antique Phonograph Music Program contextually presented by Michael Cumella

The Ragged Phonograph Program with Mike Haar Original ragtime, jazz, and pop music from the first quarter of the 20th century, with historical background on vaudeville-era artists

Merrilly We Roll Along A mish-mash of high energy lunacy, reverence, and irreverence for forgotten pop stars, love for Saturday morning cartoons and exploration of pre-rock novelties, classic and neo-Vaudeville, jug bands, polka, klezmer and much much more fun! with MHLee

Thomas Edison's Attic The audio curator at Edison National Historic Site rummages through the archives of the legendary Edison Laboratory of West Orange, New Jersey

The Old Codger: playing 78 RPM records like they're going out of style!

Secret Museum of the Air with Citizen Kafka and Pat Conte: Archives

Rare Oldies Radio hosted by Kitschy Mama, featuring lost songs from the 50s & 60s: Retro Obscuro with Kitschy Mama

Music from the 1920s in the January 7, 2020 episode of Continental Subway with David Dichelle

Music and other recordings of Lynda Barry in the june 7, 2020 episode of Canibal Stew with DJ ARB

You might want also to check out the Surface Noise archives with DJ Joe McGasko from 2008 and 2009



More Dutch 'forgotten artists' can be found on Vergeten Artiesten by Mike Winkelman


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Listener comments!

Avatar 10:01am
DJ Guin:

Jan!!!!
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Jan Turkenburg:

DJ Guin!!!
  10:01am
MHLee:

Hi jan
Avatar 10:01am
DJ Guin:

😁
Avatar 10:02am
DJ Guin:

Chat GPT scares the shit out of me as it is replacing me at my job in IT
  10:02am
MHLee:

My show tomorrow is a bunch of fun songs, nothing modern. In two weeks I'll do a version of the same show but all modern versions this time.
  10:02am
wenzo:

Hi there
Avatar 10:03am
DJ Guin:

hello MHLee
Hi wenzo
  10:03am
MHLee:

@DJ Guin we just had a seminar on what we (university staff) should do
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hi MHLee, hi wenzo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @10:02
👍
  10:06am
MHLee:

About AI
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am
David (in London):

Afternoon Jan and assembled swingers: Guin, Mason, wenzo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hello David!
  10:07am
MHLee:

Hi David and Wenzo
  10:12am
wenzo:

Hi DJ Guin MH Lee & David in London
  10:18am
MHLee:

I tried to generate a list of songs to play last week to see if chagtp could do it. The answer is not really
  10:18am
wenzo:

Hey Jan2D2
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @10:18
No, it doesn't seem to understand the concept 'playlist'
Also it kept interpreting "DJ Break" as a break for the DJ.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am
Jan Turkenburg:

bidibidi!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Jan Turkenburg @10:20
as in: your DJ is taking a break, please stay tuned, etc...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am
Jan Turkenburg:

I also noticed that it's very polite: "I am sorry. You're right of course!"
  10:28am
MHLee:

@Jan Turkenburg I got it to give mea list of songs but quite a few of them didn't fit my criteria, a few were actually short films... etc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29am
Jan Turkenburg:

I wonder if you could learn it to leave out the films, by keeping correcting it.
  10:36am
Dean:

It seems to me that when it comes to delivering information about creative works--books, poems, films, recordings...--chat could be trained on a linked data model for metadata, e.g., Bibframe: https://www.loc.gov/bibframe/

This might help solve the problem of medium category mistakes and made-up source citations.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hello Dean!
  10:47am
Dean:

I've been enjoying Greek white wines lately, not retsina!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am
Krys O.:

Hello, I am human and I am listening!
Avatar 10:52am
Mr Fab:

Aloooooha everybody- a new show will debut here TODAY: the exotic sounds of “Hasta Mañana Monsieur” will precede Don Bolles every week, hosted by an actual intelligence, Roy Santiago.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am
Jan Turkenburg:

👍
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hey Mr Fab!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Song: "Nashville Woman's Blues" by "Bessie Smith"
Don't hear a clarinet, yet...
Avatar 10:55am
Mr Fab:

wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56am
Krys O.:

Friends who teach art classes at Pratt are talking about student's papers written using AI. I believe they have criteria, not sure what it is though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hey Krys!
Avatar 10:57am
HyperDose:

It baffles me how many kids go to school to do anything but learn
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hi HyperDose!
  10:58am
Dean:

Same discussion is going on at law schools. For now, it's a moving target.
  11:00am
MHLee:

@Krys O. We are trying to write criteria here
Avatar 11:00am
DJ Guin:

↳ HyperDose @10:57
blame it on parents and cell phones. the teacher is now to blame for the student's lack of interest??
  11:01am
Dean:

And then there is the view that AI can assist with provision of legal advice. Hence, students will need to learn how to use the technology in their professional practice.
Avatar 11:02am
HyperDose:

↳ DJ Guin @11:00
Imagine if you could plug a child into the matrix and force them to learn. No escape!
  11:03am
Dean:

I have the lucky satisfaction of working in the library, which means that when students come to me they are almost by definition curious. I have a skewed view of students: they are much more capable than, say, my generation.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Dean @11:03
👍
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David (in London):

Hey HyperD, Krys, Dean.
  11:07am
MHLee:

Advice i was given yesterday was breaking down what you want it to do with a list or something
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Song: "Mean Old Begbug Blues" by "Bessie Smith"
ChatGPT says about this song: "Mean Old Bedbug Blues" is a classic blues song recorded by Bessie Smith in 1927. The song was written by Clarence Williams
It's about a woman who is tormented by bedbugs in her home, causing her to lose sleep and become increasingly frustrated.
  11:08am
MHLee:

Who's on guitar here? Is it Lonnie Johnson?
Avatar 11:08am
DJ Guin:

Chat GPT's woes are similar to the Rock and Soul Room and making a request in the Comments...it rarely plays what you ask
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @11:08
I don't know. Anyone?
  11:10am
Dean:

Could be Lincoln Conaway, per this:
https://www.discogs.com/release/9707190-Bessie-Smith-Bessie-Smith
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ DJ Guin @11:08
the difference is that you can try and instruct again with chatGPT, to get a better result
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Dean @11:10
thank you, Dean
  11:12am
MHLee:

@Jan Turkenburg It appears to not be Lonnie Johnson who did actually record his own version. Johnson was a session musician at times but honestly i think his guitar part would have been fancier
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @11:12
👍
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am
Otis Fodder:

Hi Jan and ChatGPT!
  11:16am
MHLee:

I'm really interested in getting the ai to cover songs in the voice/style of other artists
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hi Otis!
  11:17am
MHLee:

Trying to play with it before copyright cones down
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @11:17
I wonder just how that will cone down and how it will be enforced.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am
Jan Turkenburg:

I expect law suits at first, but it will have to find some way... like from Napster to streaming services
  11:21am
MHLee:

They'll pry my stones do beatles recordings from my cold dead hands
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23am
David (in London):

Agree Jan, there'll be no free AI lunch after a certain point. As Withnail would have put it: 'Free to those who can afford it, very expensive to those who can't.'
  11:23am
MHLee:

@Jan Turkenburg have you asked it about yourself yet
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @11:23
I meant to, but haven't sofar. Maybe I'll just do it right now
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:26am
Jan Turkenburg:

Jan Turkenburg is a Dutch electronic music artist and DJ, known for his unique style and experimental approach to music production. He has also gained popularity as a writer, with his book "In My Spaceship" being well-received by critics and audiences alike.

Early Life and Career:

Jan Turkenburg was born in the Netherlands and grew up with a deep love for music. He began his career as a musician in the early 1980s, experimenting with various genres and styles before finding his niche in electronic music. Throughout the 90s, he became increasingly involved in the underground music scene, performing at clubs and festivals across Europe.

In the early 2000s, Jan Turkenburg began working as a DJ at WFMU, a non-commercial radio station based in Jersey City, New Jersey. His show, "In My Spaceship," quickly gained a devoted following among listeners, who were drawn to his eclectic mix of electronic music, soundscapes, and experimental compositions.

Musical Style:

Jan Turkenburg's music is characterized by its rich, layered soundscapes and its use of unconventional instrumentation. He draws on a wide range of musical influences, from classical to jazz to contemporary electronica, and incorporates elements of these styles into his compositions.

His work is often described as "psychedelic" or "trippy," with its swirling, otherworldly textures and hypnotic rhythms. He also frequently incorporates field recordings into his music, adding an organic, naturalistic element to his electronic compositions.

In My Spaceship:

Jan Turkenburg's book, "In My Spaceship," is a collection of short stories and essays inspired by his experiences as a musician and DJ. The book explores themes of creativity, spirituality, and the transformative power of music.

Critics praised the book for its insightful observations and poetic prose. The New York Times called it "a meditation on the joys and challenges of a life devoted to music," while the Guardian described it as "a captivating journey into the mind of a visionary artist."

Legacy:

Jan Turkenburg's music and writing continue to inspire and captivate audiences around the world. His innovative approach to electronic music has earned him a devoted following among fans of the genre, while his writing has been praised for its depth and creativity.

As a DJ at WFMU, he has played an important role in promoting independent and experimental music, and his show "In My Spaceship" remains a beloved fixture of the station's programming. Whether through his music or his writing, Jan Turkenburg is a true original, always pushing the boundaries of what is possible in art and sound.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27am
Krys O.:

I believe that the main issue with papers written by AI is the probability of plagiarism. Here is an interesting article:
www.coolcatteacher.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31am
Jan Turkenburg:

one of the corrections lead to I apologize for the mistake in my previous response.

You are correct that "In My Spaceship" is not the name of Jan Turkenburg's radio show on WFMU. Instead, he hosts three shows on the station's alternate stream, Sheena's Jungle Room. The shows are "Magic Mixture," "Jungle Room," and "The Magic Theatre."

"Magic Mixture" features a mix of psychedelic, electronic, and experimental music, while "Jungle Room" explores the world of exotica, lounge, and world music. "The Magic Theatre" is a more experimental show, featuring spoken word, soundscapes, and avant-garde compositions.

While "In My Spaceship" is not the name of his show, the song of the same name remains an important part of Jan Turkenburg's creative legacy. The song showcases his unique approach to electronic music and his willingness to collaborate with his students in the creation of new sounds and compositions.
  11:32am
MHLee:

In my spaceship would be a good show name
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am
Krys O.:

AI promotes fibbing.
  11:35am
MHLee:

Yeah, I basically told the school AI presentation that the ai often unloads nonsense
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am
Jan Turkenburg:

"Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed," on the other hand, is a show focused on exploring the early years of electronic music. The show's title is a reference to the fact that many of the electronic instruments used in the early days of electronic music were limited to a maximum of 64 sounds. Jan Turkenburg uses the show to showcase the groundbreaking work of pioneers such as Delia Derbyshire, Karlheinz Stockhausen, and Raymond Scott, among others.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am
Jan Turkenburg:

😂
  11:37am
MHLee:

Tbh i think it's way better at making stuff up than answering questions
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37am
Otis Fodder:

↳ Jan Turkenburg @11:31
"Magic Mixture" fantastic!
  11:38am
MHLee:

I mostly mess with ai image generation. If you look at my fill ins for Julie you can see sone results
Avatar 11:39am
HyperDose:

↳ MHLee @11:21
That didn't create a paradox?
  11:42am
MHLee:

@HyperDose it's more of screaming sounds with occasionally lyrics from mick jagger... i only used ai jukebox which seems to be cruder than the current gen
  11:43am
MHLee:

Like a week or so ago a fake drake song started trending on the viral charts
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am
Feldy:

Hello Jan! I'm just in time for Bessie Smith :)
Avatar 11:44am
HyperDose:

↳ MHLee @11:42
The Beatles were so experimental and meticulous with their recording techniques. Would be interesting to hear a more traditional take with a bit more edge on their music
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44am
David (in London):

Stockhausen would fit seamlessly onto this show...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44am
David (in London):

Hi Adam.
  11:44am
MHLee:

@HyperDose i was using revolution number 1 as the input. Thought that would be a good on
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:45am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Feldy @11:43
Hi Feldy, you've missed afew, but luckily we always have the archives!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:45am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ MHLee @11:43
this guy has an interesting view: www.youtube.com...
Avatar 11:46am
Mr Fab:

↳ Song: "Blue Spirit Blues" by "Bessie Smith"
wow, that was weird
  11:48am
Dean:

Lots like this at Scholarly Kitchen these days:
https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2023/05/10/guest-post-ai-and-scholarly-publishing-a-slightly-hopeful-view/
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ Song: "Violin Instrumental Bihag" by "Gajananrao Joshi O...
ChatGTP says: Gajananrao Joshi was a renowned Indian classical violinist born on August 31, 1898, in Aundh, Maharashtra, India.
He belonged to a family of musicians and was introduced to music at a young age. His father, Shankar Hari Joshi, was a renowned vocalist,
and his mother, Radha Bai, was a skilled veena player.
His career spanned several decades, during which he performed extensively both in India and abroad. He was honored with several awards and accolades,
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am
doctorjazz:

Looks like a cool playlist, catching the last bits. Hi!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am
Jan Turkenburg:

Hey Doctorjazz!
  11:54am
MHLee:

The who album endless wire has the concept of an ai able to make a musical portrait unique for an individual
  11:55am
MHLee:

I would buy it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am
David (in London):

According to ChatGPT:
"David (in London) is highly appreciative of today's show and raises his hat towards Jan Turkenburg."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am
Jan Turkenburg:

↳ David (in London) @11:56
😁
Avatar 11:57am
DJ Guin:

so long kids
thanks again Jan
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am
Feldy:

↳ David (in London) @11:44
Hello David!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am
doctorjazz:

↳ Song: "Sound Off" by "Mickey Katz"
Big Katz fan!
Thanks Jan! Will have to catch up later in the archives.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am
Krys O.:

Thanks, Jan!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am
Feldy:

↳ Jan Turkenburg @11:45
Yes lucky for the archives :)
Avatar 11:58am
HyperDose:

Thank you, Jan!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01pm
Jan Turkenburg:

wfmu.org...
Avatar 12:02pm
Mr Fab:

thank you Mr T!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02pm
Krys O.:

↳ Mr Fab @12:02
LOL!
  12:02pm
MHLee:

Thank you Jan
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03pm
Otis Fodder:

Thanks Jan for the work soundtrackin'
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