WFMU: Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 12, 2023

Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 12, 2023

Description: Exuberance/Ebullience, banter, possibly an interview, context and connection, the familiar, the strange.

Find: Symphonies of Treble, Words Of Expectation, stab, skronk, shimmer, sheen, The New Sound of Now, Ideas for Walls, pleasure, pith, Flutter and Wow, Motorik, cowbells, disco akimbo, at least one Cantankerous Singer, The German Language, shards of glass, Ethiopian Punk, organic, synthetic, sawtooths & squarewaves, Library Riffage, yesterday's recipes, the wrong speed, intentional static, floating, ethereal, time and timelessness.

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October 12, 2023: Hellraiser Special: FallCon 2023: Various Times; feat. The Fall

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Fall	English Scheme "English Scheme" by "The Fall"	Grotesque (After the Gramme) (Expanded Edition)	Rough Trade / Castle	1980 / 2004	Again, from The Annotated Fall (English Scheme Page) "A note from the Orange Lyrics Book in MES's hand: RE: 'English Scheme' -- "This was one of the songs that started it off, in a way, both 'Slates' E.P. and 'Lie Dream of a Casino Soul'. -'English Scheme' was one of the few songs I’ve written that have sparked off genuine reactions. Boys I’d known for years on and off but never talked to would come up and proclaim its accuracy. -This prompted me to look further into England's 'class' system. -Indeed, one of the few advantages of being in an impoverished sub-art group in England is that you get to see (If eyes are Peeled) all the different stratas of society--for free." //////// "Sic" throughout, as near as possible, including all quotation marks. /////// "Scheme" is often used in England to describe a public assistance program...people who live in public housing are sometimes referred to as "schemies":"	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	White Lines "White Lines" by "The Fall"	Oxymoron	Receiver Records Limited	1997	Seemingly an instrumental outtake of the classic rap song Grandmaster Melle Mel ‎- White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) (Official Video) -- Was this intended to be a full-blown cover? Was Mark E. Smith considering vocalising over this at one point? (Unlikely?) Also features vocal loops (one sounding like a voice exclaiming "cocaine". This loop was also buried within the cover version of another cautionary song about cocaine which they actually did officially release; that being the Johnny Paycheck song "Stay Away (Old White Train)" on 1996's "The Light User Syndrome.) Both songs are presumably from roughly the same era.	0:02:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	(Jung Nev's) Antidotes "(Jung Nev's) Antidotes" by "The Fall"	The Marshall Suite	Artful	1999	One of the examples of The Fall managing to surprise even 20+ years into their career. A string arrangement of symphonic proportion bookends a song that sounds more akin to Led Zeppelin than The Fall. The 1999 album was unexpectedly strong, showing a new configuration of the band providing a set of solid songs, Mark E Smith's fall risen up pheonix-like after the bleak & unstable days that preceded the album... By the end of 1998 and beginning of 1999, it looked as if their career might be on the rocks. They had lost most of their lineup (esp. ones with longstanding histories to the group) due to the increasingly erratic and volatile antics of front-man Mark E. Smith. This had culminated in his arrest near the end of that extremely troubled tour. More can be read here: "a href="https://thefall.org/gigography/gig98.html" target="_blank">thefall.org (gigography), ie. our current topic: "Wednesday, 8 April 1998 Brownies, New York City, New York - cancelled / Gig cancelled due to Mark's arrest at around 3 a.m. Wednesday morning, at the band's hotel in Gramercy Park. He was held in jail until Friday due to a mixup with the forms and the posting of the $1000 bail, and appeared in court on third degree assault and harrassment charges on Monday, 14 April. He was ordered to undergo an alcohol treatment program and anger management counselling."	0:07:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Totally Wired "Totally Wired" by "The Fall"	A Part Of America Therein, 1981	Cottage Records	1982	By far and away my favourite Fall performance of this song, far superior (in my opinion) to the original recorded version. The song itself sounds like it is wired, demonstrating how the studio version lags in comparison. This was recorded in New York in 1981. One of my favourite Fall live performances of all time, this version. Skittering, edgy guitars, sending out bursts and barbs of rhythmic entanglements, unrelentingly, unforgivingly.	0:11:14 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Wise Ol' Man (edit) "Wise Ol' Man (edit)" by "The Fall"	Wise Ol' Man EP	Cherry Red Records	2016	A late example of one of The Fall's more melodic, poppy, chipper songs. "Wise Ol' Man is an EP by the Fall, released on 19 February 2016 by Cherry Red Records. It features two new songs, "Wise Ol' Man" and "All Leave Cancelled", as well as alternate versions and remixes of songs from the band's 2015 album Sub-Lingual Tablet, and a rare live performance of "No Xmas for John Quays" (from the Fall's first album Live at the Witch Trials), recorded at Brudenell Social Club in Leeds on 28 November 2014." //// All tracks are written by Mark E. Smith, Elena Poulou and Dave Spurr (according to the credits.) This would be the second-last release by The Fall (Mark E Smith died almost exactly two years later) and was the last to feature his third wife, Elena Poulou (AKA Elini), who had been contributing to the band since 2001. (Artwork at first, then keys & vocals.) "It was in December 2000 that Mark met Elena Poulou in Berlin. She would become his third and final wife. Elena joined The Fall as the keyboardist in 2002 and was a member until 2016 when she resigned. The pair split in 2016, with Mark saying at the time: ‘Things happen. To be honest I’m happier now. It was just like: “Why am I doing this?” And then you think you’re going to go back feeling sorry for yourself but actually it’s all right. ‘People go “oh here you go again”, but I’ve been through divorce, I’ve seen families divorce. I don’t see it as a bad thing.’ //// Mark didn’t have any children."	0:15:26 (Pop-up)
The Fall	That Man "That Man" by "The Fall"	Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) [Expanded Deluxe Version]	Rough Trade / Sanctuary	1980 / 2004	From one of my favourite "live" albums. This song, of course, is a studio track. This is how it works in the world of The Fall... "Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) is a (mostly) live album by the Fall, released on 5 May 1980. //// The first of the band's many live and part-live albums, it was mostly recorded at gigs in the north of England, but the track "New Puritan" was recorded at Mark E. Smith's home and "That Man" is a studio recording, an outtake from the recording sessions for the "Fiery Jack" single."	0:19:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Telephone Thing "Telephone Thing" by "The Fall"	Telephone Thing Single / Extricate	Phonogram / Mercury Records	1990	After Mark E. Smith & Brix E. Smith's divorce & her departure from the band, The Fall signed to their first major label & the first release was something of a departure, a collaboration, "written by Mark E. Smith with Coldcut members Matt Black and Jonathan More. Produced and mixed by Coldcut, it was released as a single in January 1990 and reached number 58 on the UK singles chart. It also featured on the Fall's twelfth album, Extricate." Not only was the song (and album) generally unlike anything the band had done before, this era was also notable in that it saw the return of original co-founding member (guitarist / one-time vocalist Martin Bramah.) Though he wouldn't last much longer than a year, he contributed significantly during this time, co-writing much of the album, several singles & one song on the follow-up album. //// Back to the song itself -> "Smith said: [Coldcut's recording] was a misjustice to the tune. That single was a flop and it was rubbish. You see, they compose all their shit on machines, so I got the band to learn it, played naturally. So it's very different indeed. I just think it's topical - like all Fall singles. I think it's good to have a go at things like that - British Rail and British Telecom. It's a natural gripe. One time, I was using the phone a lot and I dialled a number and I could hear people munching sandwiches and talking about my last phone call. I actually rang up the operator and said 'Lookl I'm trying to dial a fucking number here and I can't get through because people are talking about my phone calls! Have you got a bleedin' license to do this? //////// Smith's lyrics include the lines "How dare you assume I want to parlez-vous with you / Gretchen Franklin, nosey matron thing...". Gretchen Franklin was the actress playing the part of Ethel Skinner, an elderly busybody in the BBC TV soap opera EastEnders. Smith claimed: I thought I'd made up that name. Coldcut and Craig Leon were going to me 'That's a great name to make up, Gretchen Franklin', it just came out of nowhere. And then I was watching EastEnders and ... it was terrible! Maybe she'll be flattered, you usually find people are flattered. I don't even watch fucking EastEnders. I hate it! It must've just lodged there somewhere, out of the blue. It's subliminal - I've nothing against her - I can't even remember what she looks like now.... OH NO! It's not the woman with the dog is it? It's not!"	0:20:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Trust In Me "Trust In Me" by "The Fall"	Fall Heads Roll	Narnack	2005	Fall Heads Roll is the 24th studio album, released Oct 3, 2005, produced by Mark E. Smith, Simon Archer & Tim Baxter, and recorded at Lisa Stansfield's Gracieland Studios in Rochdale, UK and at Gigantic Studios in New York City. Though it's hardly common, there are a few Fall songs that don't feature Mark E. Smith on vocals. This is one of them: "The album's closing track, "Trust in Me", features guest lead vocals from Kenny Cummings of the band Shelby, who had first met Smith and Elena Poulou at the Gigantic offices earlier on the day it was recorded, with additional vocal contributions from Phil Schuster of Shelby, and recording engineers Billy Pavone and Simon "Ding" Archer."	0:24:59 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Kimble "Kimble" by "The Fall"	A World Bewitched Best of 1990-2000 CD 2	Artful Records	2006	A cover of a Lee Perry song, with M.E.S. channeling the idiosyncrasies of dub-wizard Perry while maintaining all of his own. The following year, The Fall would double down on the dub/reggae Lee Perry connection, with a cheery cover of "Why Are People Grudgeful?", a 1993 single based on two Jamaican recordings from 1968, "People Funny Boy" by Lee Perry, and its answer record, "People Grudgeful" by Joe Gibbs, which are regarded as being among the first reggae records. //// As for this song, Kimble, it is from John Peel session 15; Recorded 19 January 1992, first broadcast 15 February 1992 //// Produced by Dale Griffin, engineered by Mike Engles & James Birtwistle. Recorded at BBC Maida Vale Studio 3. Mark E Smith - vocals; Craig Scanlon - guitar; Steve Hanley - bass; Dave Bush - keyboards; Simon Wolstencroft - drums. Kimble has been released on the Kimble single (7', 12" & CD) and also on the 2CD compilation, A World Bewitched.	0:28:26 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	The Boss "The Boss" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	This one was performed live at least once, on Mon March 20, 2006 @ Carling Academy Bristol, UK. From the expanded version of Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded] on Cherry Red Records, which came out in 2020. This track is from the disc of "Early Rough Mixes 2006", many of which are instrumental... Some would be used on the album proper, some would not.	0:32:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	60's Wack "60's Wack" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	It's unclear if the early 2006 outtakes were from the former lineup or not, certainly one of the songs was cowritten by Steve Trafford and played live during his tenure. Regardless, "Smith was quick to de-bunk what had been recorded already - "Ben talks about how they recorded all these great tracks in Lincolnshire, just before the tour. They recorded shit - a few lame incarnations of what they thought The Fall should sound like... 'the great lost album', what a load of shit."	0:35:06 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	The Vine "The Vine" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Early Rough Mixes 2006 (A series of instrumental tracks were part of this expanded release, some would be used on the album proper, some would not)	0:38:43 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Blonde "Blonde" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	This one is actually an early version of what would become "Coach and Horses" on Reformation! Post-TLC. From disc 3 of the expanded set - "Early Rough Mixes 2006"	0:41:39 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Over! Over! [Early Rough (Instrumental) Mix 2006]	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Self-explanatory -- An instrumental version of Over! Over!, a song that borrows so heavily from "Coming Down" by The United States Of America that it should be credited as a cover version, which, for some reason, it is not.	0:44:03 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Psykick Dancehall "Psykick Dancehall" by "The Fall"	Dragnet	Step-Forward	1979	Dragnet is the second studio album by English post-punk band the Fall, released on 26 October 1979 through Step-Forward Records. Appearing less than eight months after its predecessor, Live at the Witch Trials, Dragnet established at an early stage two key patterns characteristic of the group's future: that of high productivity and that of a regular turnover of group members, with only 2 of the OG members remaining. Dragnet's sound was notably muddy and lo-fi – Riley has claimed that this was a deliberate contrast to the sharp, clean sound of Live at the Witch Trials, while Smith claimed that the recording studio was so appalled by the sound that the group were asked to remove the studio's name from the album sleeve. In Simon Ford's book 'The Fall,' Kay Carroll explained the origin of the song's title: her mother opened a psychic centre 'on the corner of Gardner Road and Bury New Road in Prestwich. "It was over a row of shops that consisted of a bakery, hairdresser's and a shoe shop...It had originally been a dance studio, you know tap, ballroom dancing, things of that nature" MES says of the tune: "That was written at a time when we were in a really bad state, financially and everything. So I wrote this song about this dancehall, which does sort of exist in Prestwich...or doesn't anymore...they were going to have a disco with no music. Just old psychics, you know, like 50-year-old women...	0:46:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Pay Your Rates "Pay Your Rates" by "The Fall"	Grotesque (After The Gramme)	Rough Trade	1980	Grotesque (After the Gramme) is the third studio album by English band the Fall. Released on 17 November 1980, it was the band's first studio album on Rough Trade. It reached #1 on the independent charts and remained on the charts for 29 weeks. This was the first album for drummer Paul Hanley (Steve Hanley's younger brother), who joined the Fall earlier in the year aged 15. Kay Carroll, singer Mark E. Smith's then-girlfriend and the band's manager, played kazoo on "New Face in Hell" and added backing vocals. The Fall's music at the time was described as "Mancabilly", and by Smith himself as "Country 'n' Northern". The album opens with "Pay Your Rates", the lyric described as one that "excoriates small-minded conformity" He goes on to say of the council estates referred in the lyrics "But now with these estates, it's like rat experiments. Essentially what it is. You're closing people up. I used to go out with girls when I was a lad, and they'd live on these estates, they'd just be unbearable, man. You'd go in these houses...they'd all be the same. They all have gardens and shit, little gardens. But you go in, all the wallpaper is the same, the smell is the same, like being in prison, very, very similar."	0:49:54 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Ludd Gang "Ludd Gang" by "The Fall"	The Man Whose Head Expanded [Single] / Peverted By Language [Expanded]	Rough Trade / Castle Music	1983 / 2005	Perverted by Language is the sixth studio album by English post-punk group The Fall, released in December 1983 on Rough Trade Records. The record gave the band their first number one album on the UK Independent Chart since Grotesque (After the Gramme) in 1980, and spent fourteen weeks on the chart. Perverted by Language is the first Fall album to feature Brix Smith, then-wife of Mark E. Smith. The Luddites were English textile workers who, in the early 19th century, banded together and fought against the loss of jobs resulting from the mechanization of the industry. They were known for destroying machines, but they also got into numerous skirmishes with milll owners and British military and law enforcement. The Luddites were named after a (probably mythological) character called Ned Ludd, whom they often referred to in their missives as "King Ludd" or "General Ludd." MES also refers to the "Gang of one"...possibly a dig against Gang of Four "They preach the leftist ideas. They went to University and belong to the privileged class. The problem is that they pretend to know what the working class wants. But they haven't got a clue. Sham 69 however knew what they were talking about and they were good. The English working class (including myself) find the music of the Gang of Four offensive, insulting, hurtful. I listed to their first singles a lot in those days. Later on I saw them live, too and then you could tell they lacked the feeling when they got to the heart of the matter. I mean, how could they talk about problems and changes in the world when they play like that. Maybe I am being cynical but it's more important to me to be honest to myself. I don't like the music of the Gang of Four. I prefer rock'n'roll bands."	0:52:53 (Pop-up)
The Fall	2 X 4 "2 X 4" by "The Fall"	The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall	Beggars Banquet	1984	The Wonderful and Frightening World Of... is the seventh studio album by English musical group the Fall, released in October 1984. It was the band's first album after signing to the Beggars Banquet label. Newcomer Brix Smith co-wrote three of the tracks, ushering in a relatively pop-oriented sound for the group. Paul Hanley left the band immediately after the accompanying UK tour, ending the group's distinctive "twin drummers" period. 2 x 4" features Steve Hanley's bass prominently, Nickas and Planck considering it the lead instrument on the song. There is some suggestion that this song was about his father in law, Brix's stepdad...who supposedly did not care much for Mark. However Mark later refuted that in an interview saying "I know Brix loves her stepfather and I get on really well with her real father, he comes out with sick jokes all the time."	0:55:26 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Spoilt Victorian Child "Spoilt Victorian Child" by "The Fall"	This Nation's Saving Grace	Beggars Banquet	1985	This Nation's Saving Grace is the eighth studio album by the English post-punk band the Fall, released in 1985 by Beggars Banquet. In contrast to the band’s earlier albums, This Nation's... is noted for its pop sensibilities and guitar hooks, and John Leckie's accessible production. Guitarist Brix Smith and bassist Steve Hanley consider This Nation's Saving Grace to be one of the band's best albums, an opinion widely shared by critics. "Spoilt Victorian Child" incorporates unused lyrics intended for the Fall's 1979 debut album Live at the Witch Trials, but had been held back until the band found suitable "daft English music". The jerky and stuttering guitar riff written by Rogiers is in 6/4 time, a signature Brix initially found difficult to master. Smith's lyrics contain a number of Victorian era reference points, including Pop-up books, aqueducts, poxes and the Cottingley Fairies.	0:59:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Mother-Sister! "Mother-Sister!" by "The Fall"	Live At The Witch Trials	Step Forward	1979	Live at the Witch Trials is the debut studio album by the Fall. It was released on 16 March 1979 through record label Step-Forward. It is not, despite its title, a live album and was recorded in a studio in a single day and mixed by producer Bob Sargeant. They had 5 days booked in the studio, but MES cancelled the first 3 days due to illness....Robert Christgau of The Village Voice said he initially found it "too tuneless and crude", but later "played it in tandem with Public Image Ltd. one night and for a few bars could hardly tell the difference", concluding that "in this icky pop moment we could use some ugly rebellion." Una Baines wrote the music, and her band Poppycock released a song in 2016, "Lizard Man," which appears on the German Shepherd charity album Malawi. It begins with a man saying "Eh, what's this about?" and another man responding "Eh, nothing!" Martin Bramah says about the lyrics "I didn’t get for a while that Mother-Sister! is actually about my mother, about a story I told him. He’s describing where we lived, but I didn’t realise it at the time, it was only later that I did. That’s why he asked me to ask what the song was about, because it was about me and my mother...I had quite a pretty mum, so he may have fancied her. A lot of my friends did, because she was a pretty blond and young for a mum - a lot of lads with older mums thought mine was quite sexy, as teenaged boys do!"	1:03:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Taurig "Taurig" by "The Fall"	Imperial Wax Solvent (Expanded Version)	Sanctuary	2008 / 2020	There are two versions of this, it has come to light. This is the version that was released on the original 2008 album; with (intentionally) lyrics so low in the mix that only fragments can be heard. In 2020 an expanded edition was released, featuring mixes from the Britannia Row Sep 21, 2007 Recordings. There is a version of this song there where vocals are very much up front, from both Mark E. Smith & also Eleni Poulou. I love both versions very much.	1:06:41 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Glam Racket Instrumental Demo	The Infotainment Scan (Expanded)	Castle Music	2006		1:12:38 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Backdrop (Live 1982) "Backdrop (Live 1982)" by "The Fall"	Fall In A Hole [Expanded]	Flying Nun / Cog Sinister	1983 / 2002	Yet another of the many hidden treasures in The Fall catalogue. This song was an abrasive, cacophonous epic that was oft performed live around '82/'83, but never gifted to the studio treatment. You can find an astounding amount of notes on this rarity on The Annotated Fall (Backdrop page). This version of the song is from what had once been one of the rarest Fall albums... Tall Dwarfs' Chris Knox arranged for the recording & release of the Fall's Aug tour of New Zealand, w/ Mark E. Smith's blessing... However... "The album was originally only released in New Zealand in December 1983. However, a small number were exported to the UK early in 1984 and, in the sleeve notes for the 2002 UK CD edition, Chris Knox, who had recorded the show, stated that Mark E. Smith had been very unhappy at copies appearing in the UK and that exports ceased at his request. The album immediately became a highly valued collector's item. Smith demanded all of the profits from the album, putting Flying Nun in a precarious financial position and delaying several of the label's other releases."	1:17:37 (Pop-up)
The Fall	986 Generator "986 Generator" by "The Fall"	Your Future Our Clutter	Domino Recording Co.	2010	From The Annotated Fall (986 Generator page) -- "A slow blues with acoustic slide guitar, this sounds little like anything else from the Fall. It may be "1986" generator; numbers in Fall songs behave like they do in dreams, rarely remaining stable. The song seems to be about a time machine, maybe set for 1986. Many of the lyrics parody (or pay homage to, its hard to say) the Boz Scaggs song "Lido Shuffle," which contains the following lines: He said one more job ought to get it One last shot 'fore we quit it One more for the road [...] Sayin' one more hit ought to do it This joint ain't nothin to it One more for the road" --- Written by Mark E. Smith & Keiron Melling. Produced by Mark E Smith & Tim Robbins	1:28:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Reformation! [Early Rough (Instrumental) Mix 2006]	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Early Rough Mixes 2006 (An instrumental version of the title track from Reformation! Post-TLC.) A little more vicious/jagged/teethy, the guitars on this one.	1:36:02 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Touch Sensitive "Touch Sensitive" by "The Fall"	The Marshall Suite	Artful Records	1999	One of my favourite Fall songs! The Marshall Suite is a 1999 album by the Fall, their 20th. The album builds on the techno-influenced beats of its predecessor Levitate (1997), while also returning to a more rockabilly-influenced sound reminiscent of earlier Fall lineups. Around the time of the album's release, rumours circulated that The Marshall Suite was a concept album about the "Crying Marshal" character. Smith stopped short of denying this, telling The Wire that "I thought it would be good to do it as the story of his life, a themed LP, with a thread running through it. It's such an unhip thing to do." An unpublished section of the interview, later placed on the magazine's website, suggested that Smith was not yet finished with his creation: "I do want to continue the Marshall theme, develop it. Maybe a five-sided thing next, the return of the Marshall".	1:40:00 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cyber Insekt "Cyber Insekt" by "The Fall"	The Unutterable (Special Deluxe Edition)	Eagle Records	2000	The Unutterable is the 21st album by English rock band the Fall, released in 2000. It was recorded with much the same lineup as had appeared on the group's previous album, 1999's The Marshall Suite. This was the first and only Fall 'official' studio release to be issued on CD only, without a corresponding vinyl version. According to Julia Nagle, the song was written in the aftermath of the notorious onstage incident in New York City when MES brawled with Karl Burns and the whole band (Nagle excepted) wound up quitting: "'The song Cyber Insekt, is about that time in New York in 1998. We (our lawyer. Mark and myself) said the whole incident had been incredulous [sic], and we should write a book about it. And being in America, we then laughed about making the "film of the book, of the film" etc, which in turn became the lyrics, if that makes any sense.' And on the preview of the album, Nagle says it's 'about the virtual world of communication. There was a plan behind this: to work it live, rather than program it. It's bubbly.'" I wonder if the ‘book on station rack’ that catches MES’s attention here could be Silence of the Lambs? A book made into a film that then had multiple film-related reprints widely available in all good station bookshops... The movie tie in editions featured the iconic image of the yellow deaths head moth in Clarice’s mouth. And of course, given The Fall’s presence on the soundtrack of the film, might make sense that his eye would be drawn toward it... //// Extra fun fact: Backing vocals on the chorus are by Julia Nagle and guest Kazuko Hohki from the Frank Chickens.	1:43:15 (Pop-up)
The Fall	He Pep! "He Pep!" by "The Fall"	The Light User Syndrome	Jet Records	1996	The Light User Syndrome is the 18th album by the Fall, released in 1996 on Jet Records. It was the group's first album to feature keyboard player and guitarist Julia Nagle and the last to feature Brix Smith, Brix Smith told Simon Ford that The Light User Syndrome was recorded very quickly, with Mark E. Smith absent for much of the recording, delivering nearly all his vocals on the final day. Brix confirns both hypothesis that this song is both about speed...and based on pep rally chants " "I loved singing the cheerleader backup on 'He Pep!', another one of Mark's odes to speed mixed with a rant about record companies."	1:46:34 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Black Roof "Black Roof" by "The Fall"	Sub Lingual Tablet	Cherry Red	2015	Sub-Lingual Tablet is the 30th and penultimate studio album by English band The Fall, released in May 2015 by Cherry Red Records. The album was originally going to be named Dedication Not Medication, but, according to Mark E. Smith, "it looked a bit like a Barclays advert". "Black Roof" doesn't feature the regular Fall lineup at all; instead, the bulk of it was recorded by former members Rob Barbato and Tim Presley in the United States, with Smith adding the vocals later.	1:49:42 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Mountain Energei "Mountain Energei" by "The Fall"	The Real New Fall LP formerly 'Country On The Click'	Cherry Red	2003	The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country on the Click) is the 23rd studio album by the Fall, released on Action Records in the United Kingdom in 2003. The album features the song "Theme from Sparta F.C.", which, from 2005, was used for several years as the theme music to the Final Score section of BBC television's Saturday afternoon sports coverage. In 2006, Smith was also invited to read out the classified football results on the BBCi interactive service "Score". When asked if Mountain Energei was a political song he said "No, not really. It's an objective song. Started off with, mmm, seeing Britain, and I think you have it here [in the US], as well....you get it on TV, y'know, "you can have endless credit" and all that. (Pause) Where I live, and I'm sure everywhere, there's people who actually believe it, y'know. But also...for instance, in Manchester, you probably get that here as well, "Water was always free" where I live, y'know."	1:51:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Intro "Intro" by "The Fall"	1970s	Cherry Red	2022		1:54:52 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Edie (Rough Mix) "Edie (Rough Mix)" by "The Fall"	This Nation's Saving Grace (Expanded Edition)	Beggar's Banquet	1985	This song would eventually become a fully developed song (ie. w/ Lyrics) by Brix E. Smith's project "Adult Net". She released a few singles under that moniker during her first tenure in The Fall (the earliest singles featuring Fall members, including one guest collab. w/ Mark E. Smith himself.) Eventually, the Smiths' marriage dissolved & Brix left The Fall to work on a solo career, the first release being Adult Net's only full-length, 1989's 'The Honey Tangle".	1:56:40 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Living Too Late "Living Too Late" by "The Fall"	Living Too Late [SIngle] / Bend Sinister [Expanded]	Beggar's Banquet / Beggar's Arkive	1986 / 2017	MES, in an article entitled "Semi-Detached Mr Smith (Sounds, 19 July 1986): "I thought it would be a really good idea to write a song about middle-aged people. About an ordinary guy who was really pissed off. The more I got in the frame of mind, the easier the words came. We was originally going to do a country-and-western style. Really middle of the road, you know. I was thinking about suburbia, upper working class suburbs, and I was just wondering about these guys walking around the streets, whether they ever got pissed off."	1:57:26 (Pop-up)

Listener comments!
	♥ 7:56pm DJ Babs: Hello and welcome we will be kicking off the show shortly!!!!! Grab yer towel and beverage of choice!!!
	7:59pm Robm: hope the stream works babs
	🏝 ♥ 8:00pm Scott_Oz: G'day Babs, Derek & Beach Mates! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻
	🏝 ♥ 8:00pm ultradamno: Babs! Derek! Beach Bums!
	♥ 8:01pm DJ Babs: Hey there buddies! Yeah...what's up with the stream. I usually check it on my phone but it didn't work!
	🏝 ♥ 8:01pm ultradamno: APP IS UPP!
	🏝 ♥ 8:01pm Scott_Oz: Had to restart! But Fall loud & clear! LAURA!!!!!
	♥ 8:02pm DJ Babs: It's working now so let's hope it hangs in there for FALLCON WEEK2
	♥ 8:02pm DJ Babs: How are y'all doing tonight?!
	♥ 8:03pm DJ Babs: Derek's juggling CDs like a pro here LOL
	8:03pm Robm: just restarted the app, thanks scott
	🏝 ♥ 8:03pm Tom P: Hey Derek, Babs and All! Love the Fall start!
	🏝 ♥ 8:04pm Scott_Oz: ↳ DJ Babs @8:02 I'm all spooky pumpkinned up at last mate! 🍻😎🤙💨🍷👻🎃
	8:04pm Robm: what was going on with kitten sparkle?
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "White Lines" by "The Fall" The Furious Five were huge when I was in high school
	♥ 8:05pm DJ Babs: not sure! Can you hear us ok:?
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Robm @8:03 No worries mate! Stream sometimes glitches at the gap. So my standard response to silence is hit restart. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm ultradamno: Loud 'n' clear
	8:05pm Robm: now i can babs, had to restart the app
	🏝 ♥ 8:07pm ultradamno: I definitely hear the original but with a busier rhythm track and not so much wongkt-wongkt synth
	♥ 8:09pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @8:03 Hi Tom! If you loved the opener you will love the rest of the show!!! 😉
	♥ 8:10pm DJ Babs: Greetings to all! UD, Rob, Scott!
	🏝 ♥ 8:12pm Derek Westerholm: Hello all! It's one of my all-time favourite Fall live tracks! I love this version so so much! Eclipses the original by 2x at least!
	🏝 ♥ 8:13pm ultradamno: Gonzo quote coming
	♥ 8:13pm DJ Babs: U know it!
	🏝 ♥ 8:13pm Tom P: ↳ DJ Babs @8:09 I am Babs. You are playing my favourite now - Totally Wired!
	🏝 ♥ 8:14pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:13 You know it!
	♥ 8:14pm DJ Babs: Awesome! This set is Derek’s picks. So I hope mine are just as good!
	🏝 ♥ 8:14pm ultradamno: It's up there for me, along with Wings and Frightened
	♥ 8:14pm DJ Babs: Aww I love Wings so much
	🏝 ♥ 8:16pm Alli B: Hello!
	♥ 8:16pm DJ Babs: Aliiiiiiiiiiiii
	♥ 8:19pm DJ Babs: Good to see ya gal!!!! And Belated Happy Birthday Wishes to you from the Beach!!! 🥂🎂🎉❤️
	🏝 ♥ 8:20pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "That Man" by "The Fall" He Came Down from Hovis Land - brilliant!
	♥ 8:20pm DJ Babs: Lol that tune can’t help put a smile on your face!
	8:21pm Mr Fab: Hey all, happy Falloween!
	♥ 8:22pm DJ Babs: Heyoooooo…lol! You’re jumping the gun there Mr Fab Falloween officially is Oct 26th lol
	8:22pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: Hello beach friendz.
	🏝 ♥ 8:22pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Mr Fab @8:21 Ha! How did you guess the title of our last Oct Fall show? How-so-ever could you?!! Haha.
	♥ 8:23pm DJ Babs: Hello hello YPB! Are you ready for some Fall!? There’s some stuff coming I think will quite surprise you!
	🏝 ♥ 8:23pm Derek Westerholm: Hello all! Seems I'm switching between formats here, so slow in the chat... Will get to the helloes and chats sooooooooon
	8:24pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ DJ Babs @8:23 Can’t wait!!! I’m so ready.
	♥ 8:24pm DJ Babs: ↳ Mr Fab @8:21 Although we realized today that we accidentally switched weeks so next week will be Fall on 45!!!!
	🏝 ♥ 8:24pm Alli B: Aww, thank you!
	♥ 8:25pm DJ Babs: Love this intro…
	🏝 ♥ 8:28pm ultradamno: If you were Honky Tonk Radio Girl or Downtown Soulville, shows that only ever play 45s, it would just be another week
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: This is true! My 45 collection has grown alarmingly in the past few years!
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: I also enjoy reggae pop Fall!
	8:30pm Tyler: Glad I didn't miss The Fall...
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: Heya Tyler!!!
	8:31pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @8:30 Hiya Babs!!!
	8:32pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @8:30 Jahll
	8:34pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @8:30 Tyler!!! Helllooo
	🏝 ♥ 8:37pm ultradamno: In The Big Midweek, Hanely says in studio Smith offered him a candy bar then put a pointed line about him needing to eat a salad in a song and observed 'a man who never ate a vegetable unless you count fried onions with a steak".
	♥ 8:38pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:37 Yes, I think I read that somewhere! He really was an arse, lol
	8:43pm VinylVillainSean: Hola!
	🏝 ♥ 8:44pm ultradamno: I only saw them once, but it was This Nation's Saving Grace tour...which is a time a lot of people value most highly
	♥ 8:47pm DJ Babs: Hello Sean! Welcome to our Fall listening party!
	🏝 ♥ 8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:44 Oh man, the TNSG tour must have been amazing!
	♥ 8:48pm DJ Babs: Agreed, that's a primo time to see them!
	8:48pm VinylVillainSean: Happy fall show 👻
	🏝 ♥ 8:49pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:44 I saw them almost a decade later, with much the same lineup... Karl Burns & Brix E Smith had just come back, alongside M.E.S., Craig Scanlon, Steve Hanley & I think Dave Bush was still there at that time... Also incredibly strong, def. the best of the 3 times I saw them... Brix had unstoppable energy, too...!
	🏝 ♥ 8:50pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ VinylVillainSean @8:48 Thank you VVS! And happy Autumn to you!
	🏝 ♥ 8:51pm ultradamno: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:47 Flier and ticker
	🏝 ♥ 8:51pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:51 mastodon.social...
	8:52pm Tyler: ↳ VinylVillainSean @8:43 Aloha - Sean!
	♥ 8:53pm DJ Babs: man I fucking love this song.
	🏝 ♥ 8:53pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Tyler! Hello YrPretend! Hello Ultra! Hello Alli! Hello Fab! Hello Tom P! Hello Robm! Hello Scott_Oz! Hello!!!
	8:54pm Tyler: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hi Derek!
	🏝 ♥ 8:54pm ultradamno: I remember their merch seemed expensive at the time (probably would seem shocking cheap now) there was a really nice shirt with a cat on it, as I recall. Brix was all color co-ordinated...posh in contrast with the psychic dance hall that was The Jockey Club....
	8:55pm Tyler: This song has a lot of gears!
	8:55pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Song: "Ludd Gang" by "The Fall" So good!
	🏝 ♥ 8:55pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hey Derek. Hope you are enjoying Mark E and company as much as I am!
	8:56pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hello hello.
	🏝 ♥ 8:56pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:54 julianbevan.com...
	8:58pm DJ Nico: FALLLLLLLLLL 🍁
	🏝 ♥ 8:58pm gsdoubleu: hello everyone! have been listen while preparing dinner. now typing with slightly messy fingers
	8:58pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ DJ Nico @8:58 Hey DJ Nico.
	🏝 ♥ 8:58pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @8:55 It's pretty impossible for me not to! I've dedicated far too much of my life to the minutiae of The Fall's world, so I doubt I'll stop enjoying it now that I'm drifting into the back-half of my life...
	🏝 ♥ 8:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ DJ Nico @8:58 DJ Nico... Much much much Fall... Y'know how it goes... & Hello!
	♥ 8:59pm DJ Babs: Hi Nico!!!! Hi GS!! Welcome welcome to Fallcon can I get you a Holsten Pilsner? lol
	🏝 ♥ 9:00pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ gsdoubleu @8:58 Hello GSuu... What kind of dinner mess have you?
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi DJ Babs, Derek, and all!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm gsdoubleu: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:00 hot dogs and coleslaw. the food of kings
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ gsdoubleu @9:01 Love it!
	9:02pm DJ Nico: Hiya Cam! Face to a name finally.
	♥ 9:02pm DJ Babs: I made vegan cabbage rolls yesterday and they were MAGICAL
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm gsdoubleu: ↳ DJ Babs @9:02 anything you make is magical
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:58 You are a real Fall expert along with our DJs! I like them a lot, saw them once, but am in no way an expert. This is an education for me!
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm Derek Westerholm: ...Then there was that time where The Fall played the Opera House in Toronto in 1993 & I saw what looked like Karl Burns walking down the street in a Fall shirt. Considered approaching, then thought, nah, he left the band quite a while ago & probably wouldn't wear their own merch. Nope. Wrong. It was definitely him. Missed that opportunity.
	🏝 ♥ 9:05pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @9:01 Hello there Will thee SG... How are things in your world of sound these days?
	🏝 ♥ 9:05pm Tom P: ↳ Tom P @9:04 Oops never mind, sorry Derek!
	🏝 ♥ 9:06pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:05 Sorry for what? Please join in!
	🏝 ♥ 9:06pm Derek Westerholm: No-one needs to know much of anything about any music in order to enjoy or comment on it!
	9:07pm Tyler: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:04 He was wearing the perfect disguise :)
	♥ 9:07pm DJ Babs: Yes! This is an info sharing chat lol! Everyone here is most knowledgeable!
	🏝 ♥ 9:08pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:04 Hey Tom, what Fall show did you see? What year?
	🏝 ♥ 9:08pm Tom P: You guys are most welcoming. One of the reasons I love your show!
	🏝 ♥ 9:09pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:08 Not 100% sure what year. Maybe 2004. The Knitting Factory, NYC
	🏝 ♥ 9:12pm WR: Hello Derek & Babs and folks. I've been listening and enjoying. There was no issue with the Sheena stream earlier, except that Kitten was streaming FLAC instead of MP3, which most of the apps don't support but web browser and VLC handle OK. Besides the great MES and The Fall sounds y'all are bringing great info and perspective on the music and band. If this program whets anyone's appetite for more The Fall and MES there was a couple hours plus on another WFMU program early this year: wfmu.org...
	🏝 ♥ 9:12pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:09 Oh, that was a tempting year to go and see them... I had considered breaking my self-imposed rule from 1998 to travel and see them again, though at that time I was saving up my few vacation days for other ventures.
	9:12pm Tyler: To me The Fall is existential garage music.
	🏝 ♥ 9:13pm ultradamno: There are stories of Smith heckling Gang Of Four...
	🏝 ♥ 9:14pm ultradamno: What the Luddites Can Teach Us About Artificial Intelligence time.com...
	🏝 ♥ 9:15pm ultradamno: ↳ Tyler @9:12 Pere Ubu have avant-garage trademarked, I'm pretty sure.
	9:16pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:15 I love Pere Ubu also & its arguable they & Rocket From The Tombs were the first post-punk band, although no one called it that at the time...
	🏝 ♥ 9:17pm ultradamno: They're contenders, MX-80 go back about as far too
	9:18pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:17 Chrome could also be a contender, though they tended to be a little more psychedelic and still threw in the occasional blues riff...
	♥ 9:19pm DJ Babs: Hi WR! Hi Will!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:19pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Backdrop (Live 1982)" by "The Fall" Love this one
	🏝 ♥ 9:20pm ultradamno: Suicide too
	♥ 9:20pm DJ Babs: Honestly putting together these shows has been such a treat!!!
	♥ 9:21pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tyler @9:12 That is a good description! I love that they are a slipper band to define. They have elements of everything I love. That I know!
	9:21pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:20 Yes, Suicide, certainly. I love Revega! They are almost from a different dimension, like Sun Ra. On a completely different wavelength....
	♥ 9:22pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @9:19 I’m glad we got it on the playlist for ya!
	♥ 9:22pm DJ Babs: *slippery
	🏝 ♥ 9:23pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:19 Ha, for someone who says you're "in no way an expert", you saw them around 2004 & love "Backdrop", so I'd say you're doing alright...
	9:24pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:21 True, Babs. My description is as concise as I can put it, but existential is pretty wide-open. They're incredibly prolific so hard to label. That is a good thing. If you can sum up an act with one descriptor then they weren't really trying to be innovative.
	♥ 9:25pm DJ Babs: I would have liked it if old Mark could have lived a bit longer to keep making music…
	🏝 ♥ 9:25pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:23 :) Thanks !!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:26pm ultradamno: I think Thomas sees RFTT as his punk band, I remember an interview (probably an Ubudub podcast) where he said that as Pere Ubu were taking off and punk started they already felt above it because they had already done it.
	9:26pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:22 If the slipper fits... :)
	9:26pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: At this point, I’m very happy that Derek’s favourite band isn’t Nickelback. This has been such an amazing Fall show.
	🏝 ♥ 9:27pm ultradamno: Nickelback...Aberta represent!
	9:27pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:26 I saw RFTT reunion concert & Pere Ubu in the same year. Both were incredible, but very different beasts...
	🏝 ♥ 9:27pm ultradamno: I understand the Nickelback documentary isn't too persuasive
	🏝 ♥ 9:28pm northguineahills: Mark my words, E 'll get to Smith and Fall whatever the theme is today...
	9:29pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:26 I would love it if someone had an encyclopedic knowledge of Nickelback & could discuss the minutiae of their more esoteric moments... :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:29pm ultradamno: The first time I saw Pere Ubu they were a two drummer band Krause and Chris Cutler, and Ravenstine was still there...a top five live show of my life for sure
	9:30pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @9:29 There’s definitely an opening - maybe it can be you?
	🏝 ♥ 9:31pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @9:29 *Krauss
	🏝 ♥ 9:32pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:28 Haha! Hello NorthGuinea! How are things?
	9:32pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:29 When I saw them, Dave Thomas was wearing a PVC butcher's apron that emitted all sorts of crazy electronic skronk when he touched it in different places. He was otherwise dressed like a southern gentleman & sipped from a flask between verses. They played the song they were commissioned to write for Debbie Gibson (not sure if this was true or rhetoric) and anytime people shouted out requests, Dave Thomas would say, "Haven't you noticed yet that we're just playing the songs in alphabetical order?" :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:32 unfortunately, i'm back in orlando...
	🏝 ♥ 9:33pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:32 Oh! Oh?
	🏝 ♥ 9:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:33 (I was in nyc for a week)
	🏝 ♥ 9:34pm ultradamno: I recall him saying "it's so nice you would like to hear that" one of the times I saw him.
	♥ 9:34pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tyler @9:32 Wait what pere ubu write a song for Debbie Gibson?
	🏝 ♥ 9:34pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:33 And?
	9:35pm laurapanic: just saw what you are doing...I'm not going to join now, Im going to savour it in one go on the archive. this is far too delicious I'm so sad I missed it live.
	9:35pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:30 Haha, Cameron. I've unfortunately seen Creed live against my will, but not Nickelback, though a friend of mine was playing guitar in Thornley & Chad Kroeger showed up at the Horseshoe to do a god-awful duet with Ian.
	🏝 ♥ 9:36pm ultradamno: Diamanda Gaalas said he threw a temper tantrum in outrage that she was on the same bill (because he's a Jehovah's Witness and the satanism) and trashed the dressing room. I'm not sure I believe that, though.
	9:36pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:34 Babs, unfortunately, I can't recall what it was, but it definitely was not commercial. They said her people rejected it. :)
	9:37pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @9:35 Oh boy. Creed…I forgot about them…that just have been painful. And that duet…ugh.
	🏝 ♥ 9:37pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:34 I'm still waiting for my security clearance to pass so I can start my job in nyc...
	🏝 ♥ 9:37pm ultradamno: Creed, music for standing shirtless on a cliff announcing yourself to birds
	9:38pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:37 It's a long story, but I ended being guilted into going to Edgefest one summer and Creed were he headliner.
	9:38pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ ultradamno @9:37 😝
	🏝 ♥ 9:39pm ultradamno: Usually MES's response is chalked up to Riley being the cover boy just after being sacked
	9:39pm Tyler: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Re-heated Echo Beach is still mighty tasty!
	🏝 ♥ 9:39pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:37 NGH, at least it's only a temporary setback...!
	♥ 9:40pm DJ Babs: Mark E Smith is waitin' for the man on this one
	🏝 ♥ 9:41pm Tom P: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Hi Laura! It's a superb show I'm going to listen to again it on archives for sure
	♥ 9:41pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Hi Laura no worries we got a whole month of programming for you LOL
	♥ 9:42pm DJ Babs: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:37 Oddly enough I did find myself googling Scott Stapp the other day to see what became of him and it wasn't great...
	🏝 ♥ 9:43pm ultradamno: New solo album with a song called "What I Deserve"? Talk about a straight line
	♥ 9:44pm DJ Babs: This tune lives in my head rent free
	9:44pm Tyler: Mark E. is waiting for the Ballroom Blitz on this one... :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:44pm ultradamno: ...and the album is called "Higher Power"? Was it written entirely at 12 stepper meetings?
	♥ 9:44pm DJ Babs: YES It's also the same shuffle as Yin Yang and the Flowerpot Man!
	🏝 ♥ 9:45pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:39 yeah, i was originally expected to start at before the end of the month at the latest, now, it not be until american t-giving...
	9:46pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:44 Yeah, you're right, Babs. Good call. I think a Pretenders song start the same way - 'Don't Get Me Wrong'? This shuffle has been used in many songs.
	♥ 9:46pm DJ Babs: It's a good one!!!
	♥ 9:47pm DJ Babs: He Pep is like Goth Fall lol
	🏝 ♥ 9:48pm Tom P: ↳ DJ Babs @9:47 Brilliant! Total anarchy!
	♥ 9:48pm DJ Babs: I love that it's literally a pep rally extolling the virtues of speed lol
	9:49pm Tyler: The Fall should have played the Superbowl half-time show :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:50pm Tom P: ↳ Tyler @9:49 Hah! Great thought!
	♥ 9:50pm DJ Babs: Now that's a halftime I would watch!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:50pm ultradamno: A whole half time show with one long improvised song called "This Isn't Football"
	♥ 9:51pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @9:45 Well, it will be worth the wait I'm sure!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:52pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:45 Bah. Hold in there, NGH... You're almost there...
	🏝 ♥ 9:53pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @9:50 That does sound rather M.E.S.-ish, to be sure! "This Isn't Football" Ha!
	9:53pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:50 Hahaha - then the Spartan F.C. would charge the field! :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:54pm northguineahills: thanks Derek and Babs, I really fell for this set!
	🏝 ♥ 9:55pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:54 Hahaha... Aww, awesome NGH. Enjoy your Orlando return & get back to NYC shortly...!
	🏝 ♥ 9:56pm Scott_Oz: Thanks Babs & Derek for a fucken Fall-tastic show! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻
	🏝 ♥ 9:56pm Tom P: Babs, Derek! Thank you so much for the great Fall show. Enjoyed it so much! @NGH - wishing you all the best
	9:57pm Tyler: YAY! FALL-CON! Thanks Babs & Derek & Beachers! Nice spending time with you...
	9:57pm VinylVillainSean: Great Fall show Babs and Derek 🍁
	🏝 ♥ 9:57pm gsdoubleu: thank you for hosting us at the beach again!
	♥ 9:58pm DJ Babs: Thank you all for sticking with us in the wierd and wonderful and just plain noisy! You're all wonderful!
	🏝 ♥ 9:58pm WR: Thank you! Babs & Derek! Gotta tell on me. I was thinking that I had heard a bunch of Fall recently on WFMU recently and ended up searching and finding that show by Stork from March. Just realized that your show last week was what I was originally thinking of. [shrug] Anyway, many many thanks! Onward.
	♥ 9:59pm DJ Babs: haha WR! That's great! Always happy to meet the Fall needs here
	♥ 9:59pm DJ Babs: Next week...FALL ON 45!
	🏝 ♥ 9:59pm Derek Westerholm: Thanks all! So wonderful to be with you here, as always, in every season!
	🏝 ♥ 10:01pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:59 i didn't think mark e smith was alive in 1945
	10:01pm Tyler: Nice song to end it with...
	♥ 10:01pm DJ Babs: gnite gnite all and a great week ahead! ❤️

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Fall	English Scheme "English Scheme" by "The Fall"	Grotesque (After the Gramme) (Expanded Edition)	Rough Trade / Castle	1980 / 2004	Again, from The Annotated Fall (English Scheme Page) "A note from the Orange Lyrics Book in MES's hand: RE: 'English Scheme' -- "This was one of the songs that started it off, in a way, both 'Slates' E.P. and 'Lie Dream of a Casino Soul'. -'English Scheme' was one of the few songs I’ve written that have sparked off genuine reactions. Boys I’d known for years on and off but never talked to would come up and proclaim its accuracy. -This prompted me to look further into England's 'class' system. -Indeed, one of the few advantages of being in an impoverished sub-art group in England is that you get to see (If eyes are Peeled) all the different stratas of society--for free." //////// "Sic" throughout, as near as possible, including all quotation marks. /////// "Scheme" is often used in England to describe a public assistance program...people who live in public housing are sometimes referred to as "schemies":"	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	White Lines "White Lines" by "The Fall"	Oxymoron	Receiver Records Limited	1997	Seemingly an instrumental outtake of the classic rap song Grandmaster Melle Mel ‎- White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) (Official Video) -- Was this intended to be a full-blown cover? Was Mark E. Smith considering vocalising over this at one point? (Unlikely?) Also features vocal loops (one sounding like a voice exclaiming "cocaine". This loop was also buried within the cover version of another cautionary song about cocaine which they actually did officially release; that being the Johnny Paycheck song "Stay Away (Old White Train)" on 1996's "The Light User Syndrome.) Both songs are presumably from roughly the same era.	0:02:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	(Jung Nev's) Antidotes "(Jung Nev's) Antidotes" by "The Fall"	The Marshall Suite	Artful	1999	One of the examples of The Fall managing to surprise even 20+ years into their career. A string arrangement of symphonic proportion bookends a song that sounds more akin to Led Zeppelin than The Fall. The 1999 album was unexpectedly strong, showing a new configuration of the band providing a set of solid songs, Mark E Smith's fall risen up pheonix-like after the bleak & unstable days that preceded the album... By the end of 1998 and beginning of 1999, it looked as if their career might be on the rocks. They had lost most of their lineup (esp. ones with longstanding histories to the group) due to the increasingly erratic and volatile antics of front-man Mark E. Smith. This had culminated in his arrest near the end of that extremely troubled tour. More can be read here: "a href="https://thefall.org/gigography/gig98.html" target="_blank">thefall.org (gigography), ie. our current topic: "Wednesday, 8 April 1998 Brownies, New York City, New York - cancelled / Gig cancelled due to Mark's arrest at around 3 a.m. Wednesday morning, at the band's hotel in Gramercy Park. He was held in jail until Friday due to a mixup with the forms and the posting of the $1000 bail, and appeared in court on third degree assault and harrassment charges on Monday, 14 April. He was ordered to undergo an alcohol treatment program and anger management counselling."	0:07:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Totally Wired "Totally Wired" by "The Fall"	A Part Of America Therein, 1981	Cottage Records	1982	By far and away my favourite Fall performance of this song, far superior (in my opinion) to the original recorded version. The song itself sounds like it is wired, demonstrating how the studio version lags in comparison. This was recorded in New York in 1981. One of my favourite Fall live performances of all time, this version. Skittering, edgy guitars, sending out bursts and barbs of rhythmic entanglements, unrelentingly, unforgivingly.	0:11:14 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Wise Ol' Man (edit) "Wise Ol' Man (edit)" by "The Fall"	Wise Ol' Man EP	Cherry Red Records	2016	A late example of one of The Fall's more melodic, poppy, chipper songs. "Wise Ol' Man is an EP by the Fall, released on 19 February 2016 by Cherry Red Records. It features two new songs, "Wise Ol' Man" and "All Leave Cancelled", as well as alternate versions and remixes of songs from the band's 2015 album Sub-Lingual Tablet, and a rare live performance of "No Xmas for John Quays" (from the Fall's first album Live at the Witch Trials), recorded at Brudenell Social Club in Leeds on 28 November 2014." //// All tracks are written by Mark E. Smith, Elena Poulou and Dave Spurr (according to the credits.) This would be the second-last release by The Fall (Mark E Smith died almost exactly two years later) and was the last to feature his third wife, Elena Poulou (AKA Elini), who had been contributing to the band since 2001. (Artwork at first, then keys & vocals.) "It was in December 2000 that Mark met Elena Poulou in Berlin. She would become his third and final wife. Elena joined The Fall as the keyboardist in 2002 and was a member until 2016 when she resigned. The pair split in 2016, with Mark saying at the time: ‘Things happen. To be honest I’m happier now. It was just like: “Why am I doing this?” And then you think you’re going to go back feeling sorry for yourself but actually it’s all right. ‘People go “oh here you go again”, but I’ve been through divorce, I’ve seen families divorce. I don’t see it as a bad thing.’ //// Mark didn’t have any children."	0:15:26 (Pop-up)
The Fall	That Man "That Man" by "The Fall"	Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) [Expanded Deluxe Version]	Rough Trade / Sanctuary	1980 / 2004	From one of my favourite "live" albums. This song, of course, is a studio track. This is how it works in the world of The Fall... "Totale's Turns (It's Now or Never) is a (mostly) live album by the Fall, released on 5 May 1980. //// The first of the band's many live and part-live albums, it was mostly recorded at gigs in the north of England, but the track "New Puritan" was recorded at Mark E. Smith's home and "That Man" is a studio recording, an outtake from the recording sessions for the "Fiery Jack" single."	0:19:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Telephone Thing "Telephone Thing" by "The Fall"	Telephone Thing Single / Extricate	Phonogram / Mercury Records	1990	After Mark E. Smith & Brix E. Smith's divorce & her departure from the band, The Fall signed to their first major label & the first release was something of a departure, a collaboration, "written by Mark E. Smith with Coldcut members Matt Black and Jonathan More. Produced and mixed by Coldcut, it was released as a single in January 1990 and reached number 58 on the UK singles chart. It also featured on the Fall's twelfth album, Extricate." Not only was the song (and album) generally unlike anything the band had done before, this era was also notable in that it saw the return of original co-founding member (guitarist / one-time vocalist Martin Bramah.) Though he wouldn't last much longer than a year, he contributed significantly during this time, co-writing much of the album, several singles & one song on the follow-up album. //// Back to the song itself -> "Smith said: [Coldcut's recording] was a misjustice to the tune. That single was a flop and it was rubbish. You see, they compose all their shit on machines, so I got the band to learn it, played naturally. So it's very different indeed. I just think it's topical - like all Fall singles. I think it's good to have a go at things like that - British Rail and British Telecom. It's a natural gripe. One time, I was using the phone a lot and I dialled a number and I could hear people munching sandwiches and talking about my last phone call. I actually rang up the operator and said 'Lookl I'm trying to dial a fucking number here and I can't get through because people are talking about my phone calls! Have you got a bleedin' license to do this? //////// Smith's lyrics include the lines "How dare you assume I want to parlez-vous with you / Gretchen Franklin, nosey matron thing...". Gretchen Franklin was the actress playing the part of Ethel Skinner, an elderly busybody in the BBC TV soap opera EastEnders. Smith claimed: I thought I'd made up that name. Coldcut and Craig Leon were going to me 'That's a great name to make up, Gretchen Franklin', it just came out of nowhere. And then I was watching EastEnders and ... it was terrible! Maybe she'll be flattered, you usually find people are flattered. I don't even watch fucking EastEnders. I hate it! It must've just lodged there somewhere, out of the blue. It's subliminal - I've nothing against her - I can't even remember what she looks like now.... OH NO! It's not the woman with the dog is it? It's not!"	0:20:46 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Trust In Me "Trust In Me" by "The Fall"	Fall Heads Roll	Narnack	2005	Fall Heads Roll is the 24th studio album, released Oct 3, 2005, produced by Mark E. Smith, Simon Archer & Tim Baxter, and recorded at Lisa Stansfield's Gracieland Studios in Rochdale, UK and at Gigantic Studios in New York City. Though it's hardly common, there are a few Fall songs that don't feature Mark E. Smith on vocals. This is one of them: "The album's closing track, "Trust in Me", features guest lead vocals from Kenny Cummings of the band Shelby, who had first met Smith and Elena Poulou at the Gigantic offices earlier on the day it was recorded, with additional vocal contributions from Phil Schuster of Shelby, and recording engineers Billy Pavone and Simon "Ding" Archer."	0:24:59 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Kimble "Kimble" by "The Fall"	A World Bewitched Best of 1990-2000 CD 2	Artful Records	2006	A cover of a Lee Perry song, with M.E.S. channeling the idiosyncrasies of dub-wizard Perry while maintaining all of his own. The following year, The Fall would double down on the dub/reggae Lee Perry connection, with a cheery cover of "Why Are People Grudgeful?", a 1993 single based on two Jamaican recordings from 1968, "People Funny Boy" by Lee Perry, and its answer record, "People Grudgeful" by Joe Gibbs, which are regarded as being among the first reggae records. //// As for this song, Kimble, it is from John Peel session 15; Recorded 19 January 1992, first broadcast 15 February 1992 //// Produced by Dale Griffin, engineered by Mike Engles & James Birtwistle. Recorded at BBC Maida Vale Studio 3. Mark E Smith - vocals; Craig Scanlon - guitar; Steve Hanley - bass; Dave Bush - keyboards; Simon Wolstencroft - drums. Kimble has been released on the Kimble single (7', 12" & CD) and also on the 2CD compilation, A World Bewitched.	0:28:26 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	The Boss "The Boss" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	This one was performed live at least once, on Mon March 20, 2006 @ Carling Academy Bristol, UK. From the expanded version of Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded] on Cherry Red Records, which came out in 2020. This track is from the disc of "Early Rough Mixes 2006", many of which are instrumental... Some would be used on the album proper, some would not.	0:32:14 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	60's Wack "60's Wack" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	It's unclear if the early 2006 outtakes were from the former lineup or not, certainly one of the songs was cowritten by Steve Trafford and played live during his tenure. Regardless, "Smith was quick to de-bunk what had been recorded already - "Ben talks about how they recorded all these great tracks in Lincolnshire, just before the tour. They recorded shit - a few lame incarnations of what they thought The Fall should sound like... 'the great lost album', what a load of shit."	0:35:06 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	The Vine "The Vine" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Early Rough Mixes 2006 (A series of instrumental tracks were part of this expanded release, some would be used on the album proper, some would not)	0:38:43 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Blonde "Blonde" by "The Fall"	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	This one is actually an early version of what would become "Coach and Horses" on Reformation! Post-TLC. From disc 3 of the expanded set - "Early Rough Mixes 2006"	0:41:39 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Over! Over! [Early Rough (Instrumental) Mix 2006]	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Self-explanatory -- An instrumental version of Over! Over!, a song that borrows so heavily from "Coming Down" by The United States Of America that it should be credited as a cover version, which, for some reason, it is not.	0:44:03 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Psykick Dancehall "Psykick Dancehall" by "The Fall"	Dragnet	Step-Forward	1979	Dragnet is the second studio album by English post-punk band the Fall, released on 26 October 1979 through Step-Forward Records. Appearing less than eight months after its predecessor, Live at the Witch Trials, Dragnet established at an early stage two key patterns characteristic of the group's future: that of high productivity and that of a regular turnover of group members, with only 2 of the OG members remaining. Dragnet's sound was notably muddy and lo-fi – Riley has claimed that this was a deliberate contrast to the sharp, clean sound of Live at the Witch Trials, while Smith claimed that the recording studio was so appalled by the sound that the group were asked to remove the studio's name from the album sleeve. In Simon Ford's book 'The Fall,' Kay Carroll explained the origin of the song's title: her mother opened a psychic centre 'on the corner of Gardner Road and Bury New Road in Prestwich. "It was over a row of shops that consisted of a bakery, hairdresser's and a shoe shop...It had originally been a dance studio, you know tap, ballroom dancing, things of that nature" MES says of the tune: "That was written at a time when we were in a really bad state, financially and everything. So I wrote this song about this dancehall, which does sort of exist in Prestwich...or doesn't anymore...they were going to have a disco with no music. Just old psychics, you know, like 50-year-old women...	0:46:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Pay Your Rates "Pay Your Rates" by "The Fall"	Grotesque (After The Gramme)	Rough Trade	1980	Grotesque (After the Gramme) is the third studio album by English band the Fall. Released on 17 November 1980, it was the band's first studio album on Rough Trade. It reached #1 on the independent charts and remained on the charts for 29 weeks. This was the first album for drummer Paul Hanley (Steve Hanley's younger brother), who joined the Fall earlier in the year aged 15. Kay Carroll, singer Mark E. Smith's then-girlfriend and the band's manager, played kazoo on "New Face in Hell" and added backing vocals. The Fall's music at the time was described as "Mancabilly", and by Smith himself as "Country 'n' Northern". The album opens with "Pay Your Rates", the lyric described as one that "excoriates small-minded conformity" He goes on to say of the council estates referred in the lyrics "But now with these estates, it's like rat experiments. Essentially what it is. You're closing people up. I used to go out with girls when I was a lad, and they'd live on these estates, they'd just be unbearable, man. You'd go in these houses...they'd all be the same. They all have gardens and shit, little gardens. But you go in, all the wallpaper is the same, the smell is the same, like being in prison, very, very similar."	0:49:54 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Ludd Gang "Ludd Gang" by "The Fall"	The Man Whose Head Expanded [Single] / Peverted By Language [Expanded]	Rough Trade / Castle Music	1983 / 2005	Perverted by Language is the sixth studio album by English post-punk group The Fall, released in December 1983 on Rough Trade Records. The record gave the band their first number one album on the UK Independent Chart since Grotesque (After the Gramme) in 1980, and spent fourteen weeks on the chart. Perverted by Language is the first Fall album to feature Brix Smith, then-wife of Mark E. Smith. The Luddites were English textile workers who, in the early 19th century, banded together and fought against the loss of jobs resulting from the mechanization of the industry. They were known for destroying machines, but they also got into numerous skirmishes with milll owners and British military and law enforcement. The Luddites were named after a (probably mythological) character called Ned Ludd, whom they often referred to in their missives as "King Ludd" or "General Ludd." MES also refers to the "Gang of one"...possibly a dig against Gang of Four "They preach the leftist ideas. They went to University and belong to the privileged class. The problem is that they pretend to know what the working class wants. But they haven't got a clue. Sham 69 however knew what they were talking about and they were good. The English working class (including myself) find the music of the Gang of Four offensive, insulting, hurtful. I listed to their first singles a lot in those days. Later on I saw them live, too and then you could tell they lacked the feeling when they got to the heart of the matter. I mean, how could they talk about problems and changes in the world when they play like that. Maybe I am being cynical but it's more important to me to be honest to myself. I don't like the music of the Gang of Four. I prefer rock'n'roll bands."	0:52:53 (Pop-up)
The Fall	2 X 4 "2 X 4" by "The Fall"	The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall	Beggars Banquet	1984	The Wonderful and Frightening World Of... is the seventh studio album by English musical group the Fall, released in October 1984. It was the band's first album after signing to the Beggars Banquet label. Newcomer Brix Smith co-wrote three of the tracks, ushering in a relatively pop-oriented sound for the group. Paul Hanley left the band immediately after the accompanying UK tour, ending the group's distinctive "twin drummers" period. 2 x 4" features Steve Hanley's bass prominently, Nickas and Planck considering it the lead instrument on the song. There is some suggestion that this song was about his father in law, Brix's stepdad...who supposedly did not care much for Mark. However Mark later refuted that in an interview saying "I know Brix loves her stepfather and I get on really well with her real father, he comes out with sick jokes all the time."	0:55:26 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Spoilt Victorian Child "Spoilt Victorian Child" by "The Fall"	This Nation's Saving Grace	Beggars Banquet	1985	This Nation's Saving Grace is the eighth studio album by the English post-punk band the Fall, released in 1985 by Beggars Banquet. In contrast to the band’s earlier albums, This Nation's... is noted for its pop sensibilities and guitar hooks, and John Leckie's accessible production. Guitarist Brix Smith and bassist Steve Hanley consider This Nation's Saving Grace to be one of the band's best albums, an opinion widely shared by critics. "Spoilt Victorian Child" incorporates unused lyrics intended for the Fall's 1979 debut album Live at the Witch Trials, but had been held back until the band found suitable "daft English music". The jerky and stuttering guitar riff written by Rogiers is in 6/4 time, a signature Brix initially found difficult to master. Smith's lyrics contain a number of Victorian era reference points, including Pop-up books, aqueducts, poxes and the Cottingley Fairies.	0:59:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Mother-Sister! "Mother-Sister!" by "The Fall"	Live At The Witch Trials	Step Forward	1979	Live at the Witch Trials is the debut studio album by the Fall. It was released on 16 March 1979 through record label Step-Forward. It is not, despite its title, a live album and was recorded in a studio in a single day and mixed by producer Bob Sargeant. They had 5 days booked in the studio, but MES cancelled the first 3 days due to illness....Robert Christgau of The Village Voice said he initially found it "too tuneless and crude", but later "played it in tandem with Public Image Ltd. one night and for a few bars could hardly tell the difference", concluding that "in this icky pop moment we could use some ugly rebellion." Una Baines wrote the music, and her band Poppycock released a song in 2016, "Lizard Man," which appears on the German Shepherd charity album Malawi. It begins with a man saying "Eh, what's this about?" and another man responding "Eh, nothing!" Martin Bramah says about the lyrics "I didn’t get for a while that Mother-Sister! is actually about my mother, about a story I told him. He’s describing where we lived, but I didn’t realise it at the time, it was only later that I did. That’s why he asked me to ask what the song was about, because it was about me and my mother...I had quite a pretty mum, so he may have fancied her. A lot of my friends did, because she was a pretty blond and young for a mum - a lot of lads with older mums thought mine was quite sexy, as teenaged boys do!"	1:03:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Taurig "Taurig" by "The Fall"	Imperial Wax Solvent (Expanded Version)	Sanctuary	2008 / 2020	There are two versions of this, it has come to light. This is the version that was released on the original 2008 album; with (intentionally) lyrics so low in the mix that only fragments can be heard. In 2020 an expanded edition was released, featuring mixes from the Britannia Row Sep 21, 2007 Recordings. There is a version of this song there where vocals are very much up front, from both Mark E. Smith & also Eleni Poulou. I love both versions very much.	1:06:41 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Glam Racket Instrumental Demo	The Infotainment Scan (Expanded)	Castle Music	2006		1:12:38 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Backdrop (Live 1982) "Backdrop (Live 1982)" by "The Fall"	Fall In A Hole [Expanded]	Flying Nun / Cog Sinister	1983 / 2002	Yet another of the many hidden treasures in The Fall catalogue. This song was an abrasive, cacophonous epic that was oft performed live around '82/'83, but never gifted to the studio treatment. You can find an astounding amount of notes on this rarity on The Annotated Fall (Backdrop page). This version of the song is from what had once been one of the rarest Fall albums... Tall Dwarfs' Chris Knox arranged for the recording & release of the Fall's Aug tour of New Zealand, w/ Mark E. Smith's blessing... However... "The album was originally only released in New Zealand in December 1983. However, a small number were exported to the UK early in 1984 and, in the sleeve notes for the 2002 UK CD edition, Chris Knox, who had recorded the show, stated that Mark E. Smith had been very unhappy at copies appearing in the UK and that exports ceased at his request. The album immediately became a highly valued collector's item. Smith demanded all of the profits from the album, putting Flying Nun in a precarious financial position and delaying several of the label's other releases."	1:17:37 (Pop-up)
The Fall	986 Generator "986 Generator" by "The Fall"	Your Future Our Clutter	Domino Recording Co.	2010	From The Annotated Fall (986 Generator page) -- "A slow blues with acoustic slide guitar, this sounds little like anything else from the Fall. It may be "1986" generator; numbers in Fall songs behave like they do in dreams, rarely remaining stable. The song seems to be about a time machine, maybe set for 1986. Many of the lyrics parody (or pay homage to, its hard to say) the Boz Scaggs song "Lido Shuffle," which contains the following lines: He said one more job ought to get it One last shot 'fore we quit it One more for the road [...] Sayin' one more hit ought to do it This joint ain't nothin to it One more for the road" --- Written by Mark E. Smith & Keiron Melling. Produced by Mark E Smith & Tim Robbins	1:28:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Reformation! [Early Rough (Instrumental) Mix 2006]	Reformation! Post-TLC [Expanded]	Cherry Red Records / Fall Sound Archive	2020	Early Rough Mixes 2006 (An instrumental version of the title track from Reformation! Post-TLC.) A little more vicious/jagged/teethy, the guitars on this one.	1:36:02 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Touch Sensitive "Touch Sensitive" by "The Fall"	The Marshall Suite	Artful Records	1999	One of my favourite Fall songs! The Marshall Suite is a 1999 album by the Fall, their 20th. The album builds on the techno-influenced beats of its predecessor Levitate (1997), while also returning to a more rockabilly-influenced sound reminiscent of earlier Fall lineups. Around the time of the album's release, rumours circulated that The Marshall Suite was a concept album about the "Crying Marshal" character. Smith stopped short of denying this, telling The Wire that "I thought it would be good to do it as the story of his life, a themed LP, with a thread running through it. It's such an unhip thing to do." An unpublished section of the interview, later placed on the magazine's website, suggested that Smith was not yet finished with his creation: "I do want to continue the Marshall theme, develop it. Maybe a five-sided thing next, the return of the Marshall".	1:40:00 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cyber Insekt "Cyber Insekt" by "The Fall"	The Unutterable (Special Deluxe Edition)	Eagle Records	2000	The Unutterable is the 21st album by English rock band the Fall, released in 2000. It was recorded with much the same lineup as had appeared on the group's previous album, 1999's The Marshall Suite. This was the first and only Fall 'official' studio release to be issued on CD only, without a corresponding vinyl version. According to Julia Nagle, the song was written in the aftermath of the notorious onstage incident in New York City when MES brawled with Karl Burns and the whole band (Nagle excepted) wound up quitting: "'The song Cyber Insekt, is about that time in New York in 1998. We (our lawyer. Mark and myself) said the whole incident had been incredulous [sic], and we should write a book about it. And being in America, we then laughed about making the "film of the book, of the film" etc, which in turn became the lyrics, if that makes any sense.' And on the preview of the album, Nagle says it's 'about the virtual world of communication. There was a plan behind this: to work it live, rather than program it. It's bubbly.'" I wonder if the ‘book on station rack’ that catches MES’s attention here could be Silence of the Lambs? A book made into a film that then had multiple film-related reprints widely available in all good station bookshops... The movie tie in editions featured the iconic image of the yellow deaths head moth in Clarice’s mouth. And of course, given The Fall’s presence on the soundtrack of the film, might make sense that his eye would be drawn toward it... //// Extra fun fact: Backing vocals on the chorus are by Julia Nagle and guest Kazuko Hohki from the Frank Chickens.	1:43:15 (Pop-up)
The Fall	He Pep! "He Pep!" by "The Fall"	The Light User Syndrome	Jet Records	1996	The Light User Syndrome is the 18th album by the Fall, released in 1996 on Jet Records. It was the group's first album to feature keyboard player and guitarist Julia Nagle and the last to feature Brix Smith, Brix Smith told Simon Ford that The Light User Syndrome was recorded very quickly, with Mark E. Smith absent for much of the recording, delivering nearly all his vocals on the final day. Brix confirns both hypothesis that this song is both about speed...and based on pep rally chants " "I loved singing the cheerleader backup on 'He Pep!', another one of Mark's odes to speed mixed with a rant about record companies."	1:46:34 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Black Roof "Black Roof" by "The Fall"	Sub Lingual Tablet	Cherry Red	2015	Sub-Lingual Tablet is the 30th and penultimate studio album by English band The Fall, released in May 2015 by Cherry Red Records. The album was originally going to be named Dedication Not Medication, but, according to Mark E. Smith, "it looked a bit like a Barclays advert". "Black Roof" doesn't feature the regular Fall lineup at all; instead, the bulk of it was recorded by former members Rob Barbato and Tim Presley in the United States, with Smith adding the vocals later.	1:49:42 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Mountain Energei "Mountain Energei" by "The Fall"	The Real New Fall LP formerly 'Country On The Click'	Cherry Red	2003	The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country on the Click) is the 23rd studio album by the Fall, released on Action Records in the United Kingdom in 2003. The album features the song "Theme from Sparta F.C.", which, from 2005, was used for several years as the theme music to the Final Score section of BBC television's Saturday afternoon sports coverage. In 2006, Smith was also invited to read out the classified football results on the BBCi interactive service "Score". When asked if Mountain Energei was a political song he said "No, not really. It's an objective song. Started off with, mmm, seeing Britain, and I think you have it here [in the US], as well....you get it on TV, y'know, "you can have endless credit" and all that. (Pause) Where I live, and I'm sure everywhere, there's people who actually believe it, y'know. But also...for instance, in Manchester, you probably get that here as well, "Water was always free" where I live, y'know."	1:51:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Intro "Intro" by "The Fall"	1970s	Cherry Red	2022		1:54:52 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Edie (Rough Mix) "Edie (Rough Mix)" by "The Fall"	This Nation's Saving Grace (Expanded Edition)	Beggar's Banquet	1985	This song would eventually become a fully developed song (ie. w/ Lyrics) by Brix E. Smith's project "Adult Net". She released a few singles under that moniker during her first tenure in The Fall (the earliest singles featuring Fall members, including one guest collab. w/ Mark E. Smith himself.) Eventually, the Smiths' marriage dissolved & Brix left The Fall to work on a solo career, the first release being Adult Net's only full-length, 1989's 'The Honey Tangle".	1:56:40 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Living Too Late "Living Too Late" by "The Fall"	Living Too Late [SIngle] / Bend Sinister [Expanded]	Beggar's Banquet / Beggar's Arkive	1986 / 2017	MES, in an article entitled "Semi-Detached Mr Smith (Sounds, 19 July 1986): "I thought it would be a really good idea to write a song about middle-aged people. About an ordinary guy who was really pissed off. The more I got in the frame of mind, the easier the words came. We was originally going to do a country-and-western style. Really middle of the road, you know. I was thinking about suburbia, upper working class suburbs, and I was just wondering about these guys walking around the streets, whether they ever got pissed off."	1:57:26 (Pop-up)

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	♥ 7:56pm DJ Babs: Hello and welcome we will be kicking off the show shortly!!!!! Grab yer towel and beverage of choice!!!
	7:59pm Robm: hope the stream works babs
	🏝 ♥ 8:00pm Scott_Oz: G'day Babs, Derek & Beach Mates! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻
	🏝 ♥ 8:00pm ultradamno: Babs! Derek! Beach Bums!
	♥ 8:01pm DJ Babs: Hey there buddies! Yeah...what's up with the stream. I usually check it on my phone but it didn't work!
	🏝 ♥ 8:01pm ultradamno: APP IS UPP!
	🏝 ♥ 8:01pm Scott_Oz: Had to restart! But Fall loud & clear! LAURA!!!!!
	♥ 8:02pm DJ Babs: It's working now so let's hope it hangs in there for FALLCON WEEK2
	♥ 8:02pm DJ Babs: How are y'all doing tonight?!
	♥ 8:03pm DJ Babs: Derek's juggling CDs like a pro here LOL
	8:03pm Robm: just restarted the app, thanks scott
	🏝 ♥ 8:03pm Tom P: Hey Derek, Babs and All! Love the Fall start!
	🏝 ♥ 8:04pm Scott_Oz: ↳ DJ Babs @8:02 I'm all spooky pumpkinned up at last mate! 🍻😎🤙💨🍷👻🎃
	8:04pm Robm: what was going on with kitten sparkle?
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "White Lines" by "The Fall" The Furious Five were huge when I was in high school
	♥ 8:05pm DJ Babs: not sure! Can you hear us ok:?
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Robm @8:03 No worries mate! Stream sometimes glitches at the gap. So my standard response to silence is hit restart. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	🏝 ♥ 8:05pm ultradamno: Loud 'n' clear
	8:05pm Robm: now i can babs, had to restart the app
	🏝 ♥ 8:07pm ultradamno: I definitely hear the original but with a busier rhythm track and not so much wongkt-wongkt synth
	♥ 8:09pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @8:03 Hi Tom! If you loved the opener you will love the rest of the show!!! 😉
	♥ 8:10pm DJ Babs: Greetings to all! UD, Rob, Scott!
	🏝 ♥ 8:12pm Derek Westerholm: Hello all! It's one of my all-time favourite Fall live tracks! I love this version so so much! Eclipses the original by 2x at least!
	🏝 ♥ 8:13pm ultradamno: Gonzo quote coming
	♥ 8:13pm DJ Babs: U know it!
	🏝 ♥ 8:13pm Tom P: ↳ DJ Babs @8:09 I am Babs. You are playing my favourite now - Totally Wired!
	🏝 ♥ 8:14pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:13 You know it!
	♥ 8:14pm DJ Babs: Awesome! This set is Derek’s picks. So I hope mine are just as good!
	🏝 ♥ 8:14pm ultradamno: It's up there for me, along with Wings and Frightened
	♥ 8:14pm DJ Babs: Aww I love Wings so much
	🏝 ♥ 8:16pm Alli B: Hello!
	♥ 8:16pm DJ Babs: Aliiiiiiiiiiiii
	♥ 8:19pm DJ Babs: Good to see ya gal!!!! And Belated Happy Birthday Wishes to you from the Beach!!! 🥂🎂🎉❤️
	🏝 ♥ 8:20pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "That Man" by "The Fall" He Came Down from Hovis Land - brilliant!
	♥ 8:20pm DJ Babs: Lol that tune can’t help put a smile on your face!
	8:21pm Mr Fab: Hey all, happy Falloween!
	♥ 8:22pm DJ Babs: Heyoooooo…lol! You’re jumping the gun there Mr Fab Falloween officially is Oct 26th lol
	8:22pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: Hello beach friendz.
	🏝 ♥ 8:22pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Mr Fab @8:21 Ha! How did you guess the title of our last Oct Fall show? How-so-ever could you?!! Haha.
	♥ 8:23pm DJ Babs: Hello hello YPB! Are you ready for some Fall!? There’s some stuff coming I think will quite surprise you!
	🏝 ♥ 8:23pm Derek Westerholm: Hello all! Seems I'm switching between formats here, so slow in the chat... Will get to the helloes and chats sooooooooon
	8:24pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ DJ Babs @8:23 Can’t wait!!! I’m so ready.
	♥ 8:24pm DJ Babs: ↳ Mr Fab @8:21 Although we realized today that we accidentally switched weeks so next week will be Fall on 45!!!!
	🏝 ♥ 8:24pm Alli B: Aww, thank you!
	♥ 8:25pm DJ Babs: Love this intro…
	🏝 ♥ 8:28pm ultradamno: If you were Honky Tonk Radio Girl or Downtown Soulville, shows that only ever play 45s, it would just be another week
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: This is true! My 45 collection has grown alarmingly in the past few years!
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: I also enjoy reggae pop Fall!
	8:30pm Tyler: Glad I didn't miss The Fall...
	♥ 8:30pm DJ Babs: Heya Tyler!!!
	8:31pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @8:30 Hiya Babs!!!
	8:32pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @8:30 Jahll
	8:34pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @8:30 Tyler!!! Helllooo
	🏝 ♥ 8:37pm ultradamno: In The Big Midweek, Hanely says in studio Smith offered him a candy bar then put a pointed line about him needing to eat a salad in a song and observed 'a man who never ate a vegetable unless you count fried onions with a steak".
	♥ 8:38pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:37 Yes, I think I read that somewhere! He really was an arse, lol
	8:43pm VinylVillainSean: Hola!
	🏝 ♥ 8:44pm ultradamno: I only saw them once, but it was This Nation's Saving Grace tour...which is a time a lot of people value most highly
	♥ 8:47pm DJ Babs: Hello Sean! Welcome to our Fall listening party!
	🏝 ♥ 8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:44 Oh man, the TNSG tour must have been amazing!
	♥ 8:48pm DJ Babs: Agreed, that's a primo time to see them!
	8:48pm VinylVillainSean: Happy fall show 👻
	🏝 ♥ 8:49pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:44 I saw them almost a decade later, with much the same lineup... Karl Burns & Brix E Smith had just come back, alongside M.E.S., Craig Scanlon, Steve Hanley & I think Dave Bush was still there at that time... Also incredibly strong, def. the best of the 3 times I saw them... Brix had unstoppable energy, too...!
	🏝 ♥ 8:50pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ VinylVillainSean @8:48 Thank you VVS! And happy Autumn to you!
	🏝 ♥ 8:51pm ultradamno: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:47 Flier and ticker
	🏝 ♥ 8:51pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:51 mastodon.social...
	8:52pm Tyler: ↳ VinylVillainSean @8:43 Aloha - Sean!
	♥ 8:53pm DJ Babs: man I fucking love this song.
	🏝 ♥ 8:53pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Tyler! Hello YrPretend! Hello Ultra! Hello Alli! Hello Fab! Hello Tom P! Hello Robm! Hello Scott_Oz! Hello!!!
	8:54pm Tyler: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hi Derek!
	🏝 ♥ 8:54pm ultradamno: I remember their merch seemed expensive at the time (probably would seem shocking cheap now) there was a really nice shirt with a cat on it, as I recall. Brix was all color co-ordinated...posh in contrast with the psychic dance hall that was The Jockey Club....
	8:55pm Tyler: This song has a lot of gears!
	8:55pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Song: "Ludd Gang" by "The Fall" So good!
	🏝 ♥ 8:55pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hey Derek. Hope you are enjoying Mark E and company as much as I am!
	8:56pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:53 Hello hello.
	🏝 ♥ 8:56pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:54 julianbevan.com...
	8:58pm DJ Nico: FALLLLLLLLLL 🍁
	🏝 ♥ 8:58pm gsdoubleu: hello everyone! have been listen while preparing dinner. now typing with slightly messy fingers
	8:58pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ DJ Nico @8:58 Hey DJ Nico.
	🏝 ♥ 8:58pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @8:55 It's pretty impossible for me not to! I've dedicated far too much of my life to the minutiae of The Fall's world, so I doubt I'll stop enjoying it now that I'm drifting into the back-half of my life...
	🏝 ♥ 8:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ DJ Nico @8:58 DJ Nico... Much much much Fall... Y'know how it goes... & Hello!
	♥ 8:59pm DJ Babs: Hi Nico!!!! Hi GS!! Welcome welcome to Fallcon can I get you a Holsten Pilsner? lol
	🏝 ♥ 9:00pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ gsdoubleu @8:58 Hello GSuu... What kind of dinner mess have you?
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi DJ Babs, Derek, and all!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm gsdoubleu: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:00 hot dogs and coleslaw. the food of kings
	🏝 ♥ 9:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ gsdoubleu @9:01 Love it!
	9:02pm DJ Nico: Hiya Cam! Face to a name finally.
	♥ 9:02pm DJ Babs: I made vegan cabbage rolls yesterday and they were MAGICAL
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm gsdoubleu: ↳ DJ Babs @9:02 anything you make is magical
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:58 You are a real Fall expert along with our DJs! I like them a lot, saw them once, but am in no way an expert. This is an education for me!
	🏝 ♥ 9:04pm Derek Westerholm: ...Then there was that time where The Fall played the Opera House in Toronto in 1993 & I saw what looked like Karl Burns walking down the street in a Fall shirt. Considered approaching, then thought, nah, he left the band quite a while ago & probably wouldn't wear their own merch. Nope. Wrong. It was definitely him. Missed that opportunity.
	🏝 ♥ 9:05pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @9:01 Hello there Will thee SG... How are things in your world of sound these days?
	🏝 ♥ 9:05pm Tom P: ↳ Tom P @9:04 Oops never mind, sorry Derek!
	🏝 ♥ 9:06pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:05 Sorry for what? Please join in!
	🏝 ♥ 9:06pm Derek Westerholm: No-one needs to know much of anything about any music in order to enjoy or comment on it!
	9:07pm Tyler: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:04 He was wearing the perfect disguise :)
	♥ 9:07pm DJ Babs: Yes! This is an info sharing chat lol! Everyone here is most knowledgeable!
	🏝 ♥ 9:08pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:04 Hey Tom, what Fall show did you see? What year?
	🏝 ♥ 9:08pm Tom P: You guys are most welcoming. One of the reasons I love your show!
	🏝 ♥ 9:09pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:08 Not 100% sure what year. Maybe 2004. The Knitting Factory, NYC
	🏝 ♥ 9:12pm WR: Hello Derek & Babs and folks. I've been listening and enjoying. There was no issue with the Sheena stream earlier, except that Kitten was streaming FLAC instead of MP3, which most of the apps don't support but web browser and VLC handle OK. Besides the great MES and The Fall sounds y'all are bringing great info and perspective on the music and band. If this program whets anyone's appetite for more The Fall and MES there was a couple hours plus on another WFMU program early this year: wfmu.org...
	🏝 ♥ 9:12pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:09 Oh, that was a tempting year to go and see them... I had considered breaking my self-imposed rule from 1998 to travel and see them again, though at that time I was saving up my few vacation days for other ventures.
	9:12pm Tyler: To me The Fall is existential garage music.
	🏝 ♥ 9:13pm ultradamno: There are stories of Smith heckling Gang Of Four...
	🏝 ♥ 9:14pm ultradamno: What the Luddites Can Teach Us About Artificial Intelligence time.com...
	🏝 ♥ 9:15pm ultradamno: ↳ Tyler @9:12 Pere Ubu have avant-garage trademarked, I'm pretty sure.
	9:16pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:15 I love Pere Ubu also & its arguable they & Rocket From The Tombs were the first post-punk band, although no one called it that at the time...
	🏝 ♥ 9:17pm ultradamno: They're contenders, MX-80 go back about as far too
	9:18pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:17 Chrome could also be a contender, though they tended to be a little more psychedelic and still threw in the occasional blues riff...
	♥ 9:19pm DJ Babs: Hi WR! Hi Will!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:19pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Backdrop (Live 1982)" by "The Fall" Love this one
	🏝 ♥ 9:20pm ultradamno: Suicide too
	♥ 9:20pm DJ Babs: Honestly putting together these shows has been such a treat!!!
	♥ 9:21pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tyler @9:12 That is a good description! I love that they are a slipper band to define. They have elements of everything I love. That I know!
	9:21pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:20 Yes, Suicide, certainly. I love Revega! They are almost from a different dimension, like Sun Ra. On a completely different wavelength....
	♥ 9:22pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @9:19 I’m glad we got it on the playlist for ya!
	♥ 9:22pm DJ Babs: *slippery
	🏝 ♥ 9:23pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:19 Ha, for someone who says you're "in no way an expert", you saw them around 2004 & love "Backdrop", so I'd say you're doing alright...
	9:24pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:21 True, Babs. My description is as concise as I can put it, but existential is pretty wide-open. They're incredibly prolific so hard to label. That is a good thing. If you can sum up an act with one descriptor then they weren't really trying to be innovative.
	♥ 9:25pm DJ Babs: I would have liked it if old Mark could have lived a bit longer to keep making music…
	🏝 ♥ 9:25pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:23 :) Thanks !!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:26pm ultradamno: I think Thomas sees RFTT as his punk band, I remember an interview (probably an Ubudub podcast) where he said that as Pere Ubu were taking off and punk started they already felt above it because they had already done it.
	9:26pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:22 If the slipper fits... :)
	9:26pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: At this point, I’m very happy that Derek’s favourite band isn’t Nickelback. This has been such an amazing Fall show.
	🏝 ♥ 9:27pm ultradamno: Nickelback...Aberta represent!
	9:27pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:26 I saw RFTT reunion concert & Pere Ubu in the same year. Both were incredible, but very different beasts...
	🏝 ♥ 9:27pm ultradamno: I understand the Nickelback documentary isn't too persuasive
	🏝 ♥ 9:28pm northguineahills: Mark my words, E 'll get to Smith and Fall whatever the theme is today...
	9:29pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:26 I would love it if someone had an encyclopedic knowledge of Nickelback & could discuss the minutiae of their more esoteric moments... :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:29pm ultradamno: The first time I saw Pere Ubu they were a two drummer band Krause and Chris Cutler, and Ravenstine was still there...a top five live show of my life for sure
	9:30pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @9:29 There’s definitely an opening - maybe it can be you?
	🏝 ♥ 9:31pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @9:29 *Krauss
	🏝 ♥ 9:32pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:28 Haha! Hello NorthGuinea! How are things?
	9:32pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:29 When I saw them, Dave Thomas was wearing a PVC butcher's apron that emitted all sorts of crazy electronic skronk when he touched it in different places. He was otherwise dressed like a southern gentleman & sipped from a flask between verses. They played the song they were commissioned to write for Debbie Gibson (not sure if this was true or rhetoric) and anytime people shouted out requests, Dave Thomas would say, "Haven't you noticed yet that we're just playing the songs in alphabetical order?" :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:32 unfortunately, i'm back in orlando...
	🏝 ♥ 9:33pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:32 Oh! Oh?
	🏝 ♥ 9:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:33 (I was in nyc for a week)
	🏝 ♥ 9:34pm ultradamno: I recall him saying "it's so nice you would like to hear that" one of the times I saw him.
	♥ 9:34pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tyler @9:32 Wait what pere ubu write a song for Debbie Gibson?
	🏝 ♥ 9:34pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:33 And?
	9:35pm laurapanic: just saw what you are doing...I'm not going to join now, Im going to savour it in one go on the archive. this is far too delicious I'm so sad I missed it live.
	9:35pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:30 Haha, Cameron. I've unfortunately seen Creed live against my will, but not Nickelback, though a friend of mine was playing guitar in Thornley & Chad Kroeger showed up at the Horseshoe to do a god-awful duet with Ian.
	🏝 ♥ 9:36pm ultradamno: Diamanda Gaalas said he threw a temper tantrum in outrage that she was on the same bill (because he's a Jehovah's Witness and the satanism) and trashed the dressing room. I'm not sure I believe that, though.
	9:36pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:34 Babs, unfortunately, I can't recall what it was, but it definitely was not commercial. They said her people rejected it. :)
	9:37pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ Tyler @9:35 Oh boy. Creed…I forgot about them…that just have been painful. And that duet…ugh.
	🏝 ♥ 9:37pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:34 I'm still waiting for my security clearance to pass so I can start my job in nyc...
	🏝 ♥ 9:37pm ultradamno: Creed, music for standing shirtless on a cliff announcing yourself to birds
	9:38pm Tyler: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:37 It's a long story, but I ended being guilted into going to Edgefest one summer and Creed were he headliner.
	9:38pm Your Pretend Boyfriend: ↳ ultradamno @9:37 😝
	🏝 ♥ 9:39pm ultradamno: Usually MES's response is chalked up to Riley being the cover boy just after being sacked
	9:39pm Tyler: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Re-heated Echo Beach is still mighty tasty!
	🏝 ♥ 9:39pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:37 NGH, at least it's only a temporary setback...!
	♥ 9:40pm DJ Babs: Mark E Smith is waitin' for the man on this one
	🏝 ♥ 9:41pm Tom P: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Hi Laura! It's a superb show I'm going to listen to again it on archives for sure
	♥ 9:41pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:35 Hi Laura no worries we got a whole month of programming for you LOL
	♥ 9:42pm DJ Babs: ↳ Your Pretend Boyfriend @9:37 Oddly enough I did find myself googling Scott Stapp the other day to see what became of him and it wasn't great...
	🏝 ♥ 9:43pm ultradamno: New solo album with a song called "What I Deserve"? Talk about a straight line
	♥ 9:44pm DJ Babs: This tune lives in my head rent free
	9:44pm Tyler: Mark E. is waiting for the Ballroom Blitz on this one... :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:44pm ultradamno: ...and the album is called "Higher Power"? Was it written entirely at 12 stepper meetings?
	♥ 9:44pm DJ Babs: YES It's also the same shuffle as Yin Yang and the Flowerpot Man!
	🏝 ♥ 9:45pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:39 yeah, i was originally expected to start at before the end of the month at the latest, now, it not be until american t-giving...
	9:46pm Tyler: ↳ DJ Babs @9:44 Yeah, you're right, Babs. Good call. I think a Pretenders song start the same way - 'Don't Get Me Wrong'? This shuffle has been used in many songs.
	♥ 9:46pm DJ Babs: It's a good one!!!
	♥ 9:47pm DJ Babs: He Pep is like Goth Fall lol
	🏝 ♥ 9:48pm Tom P: ↳ DJ Babs @9:47 Brilliant! Total anarchy!
	♥ 9:48pm DJ Babs: I love that it's literally a pep rally extolling the virtues of speed lol
	9:49pm Tyler: The Fall should have played the Superbowl half-time show :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:50pm Tom P: ↳ Tyler @9:49 Hah! Great thought!
	♥ 9:50pm DJ Babs: Now that's a halftime I would watch!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:50pm ultradamno: A whole half time show with one long improvised song called "This Isn't Football"
	♥ 9:51pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @9:45 Well, it will be worth the wait I'm sure!!!
	🏝 ♥ 9:52pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:45 Bah. Hold in there, NGH... You're almost there...
	🏝 ♥ 9:53pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @9:50 That does sound rather M.E.S.-ish, to be sure! "This Isn't Football" Ha!
	9:53pm Tyler: ↳ ultradamno @9:50 Hahaha - then the Spartan F.C. would charge the field! :)
	🏝 ♥ 9:54pm northguineahills: thanks Derek and Babs, I really fell for this set!
	🏝 ♥ 9:55pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @9:54 Hahaha... Aww, awesome NGH. Enjoy your Orlando return & get back to NYC shortly...!
	🏝 ♥ 9:56pm Scott_Oz: Thanks Babs & Derek for a fucken Fall-tastic show! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻
	🏝 ♥ 9:56pm Tom P: Babs, Derek! Thank you so much for the great Fall show. Enjoyed it so much! @NGH - wishing you all the best
	9:57pm Tyler: YAY! FALL-CON! Thanks Babs & Derek & Beachers! Nice spending time with you...
	9:57pm VinylVillainSean: Great Fall show Babs and Derek 🍁
	🏝 ♥ 9:57pm gsdoubleu: thank you for hosting us at the beach again!
	♥ 9:58pm DJ Babs: Thank you all for sticking with us in the wierd and wonderful and just plain noisy! You're all wonderful!
	🏝 ♥ 9:58pm WR: Thank you! Babs & Derek! Gotta tell on me. I was thinking that I had heard a bunch of Fall recently on WFMU recently and ended up searching and finding that show by Stork from March. Just realized that your show last week was what I was originally thinking of. [shrug] Anyway, many many thanks! Onward.
	♥ 9:59pm DJ Babs: haha WR! That's great! Always happy to meet the Fall needs here
	♥ 9:59pm DJ Babs: Next week...FALL ON 45!
	🏝 ♥ 9:59pm Derek Westerholm: Thanks all! So wonderful to be with you here, as always, in every season!
	🏝 ♥ 10:01pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:59 i didn't think mark e smith was alive in 1945
	10:01pm Tyler: Nice song to end it with...
	♥ 10:01pm DJ Babs: gnite gnite all and a great week ahead! ❤️

Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 12, 2023

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