WFMU: Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 19, 2023

Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 19, 2023

Description: Exuberance/Ebullience, banter, possibly an interview, context and connection, the familiar, the strange.

Find: Symphonies of Treble, Words Of Expectation, stab, skronk, shimmer, sheen, The New Sound of Now, Ideas for Walls, pleasure, pith, Flutter and Wow, Motorik, cowbells, disco akimbo, at least one Cantankerous Singer, The German Language, shards of glass, Ethiopian Punk, organic, synthetic, sawtooths & squarewaves, Library Riffage, yesterday's recipes, the wrong speed, intentional static, floating, ethereal, time and timelessness.

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October 19, 2023: Hellraiser Special: FallCon 2023: Singles Going Belatedly: Fall on '45!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
	a song
The Fall	Cash 'N' Carry (Live / Excerpt)	A Part Of America Therein, 1981	Cottage Records	1982	So begins our Hellraiser special - Fall on 45 - extravaganza show! This, however, is not from a single... It does parody 'Stars on 45', though, something they did quite often during shows around this time... From the re-issue notes... "'C'N'C' is the skewiff highlight, with its organ frenzy sounding not unlike Ray Manzaraek being overtaken by the first year infants. The lyrics and Smith's delivery make a case for just how unique the group are; Smith almost like a poet or a stand-up spieliing away over the most skeletal of beats. Of course, there is always the pleasure of hearing this particular song, which was, in part, influenced by the group's previous rip to America, and with its barbed words, "then there was America; we went there; big A&M Herb was there; His offices had fresh air, but his rota was mediocre US purge, rock n pop filth," before again rounding on English groups who "act like peasants with free milk, on a route to the loot." There is a fantastic 'Stars On 45' addition to the song, parodying the recent trend that had swept the UK and American charts, with Burns - who was frequently mistaken for The Clash's Mick Jones while in New York, fact fans - frantically breaking into a disco beat..."	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Lie Dream of a Casino Soul	Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul 7"	Kamera Records	1981	Smith spoke to the NME in 1983 about the song: That song actually did create quite a bit of resentment in the North because people thought it was being snobby and horrible about the old soul boys, which it was never about anyway. Because I was brought up with people that were into Northern Soul five years before anybody down here [in London] had even heard about it. But they've all grown out of it, which is what the song is about, but it wasn't putting them down at all. If anything, it was glorifying them, but not in the format of, where are those soul boys that used to be here? There are actually a lot of old soul boys who like The Fall, because that music was always offbeat and it gives them a feeling for the sort of wackiness that you find in our music. It's really funny because Dexys bust a gut trying to attract that audience and never even got close. All the kids I know just thought it was pathetic 'cause they were wearing the clothes they'd been wearing six years ago and ripping off all these horn riffs that they knew off by heart from the originals.	0:01:50 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Living Too Late "Living Too Late" by "The Fall"	Living Too Late 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1986	We pick up the under-the-voice music with the song we faded out last week... Samantha Fox actually reviewed the song in Smash Hits: "I didn't like this at all -- it's really crappy. He sounds like he's been having yodelling lessons. It seems to be the fashion of the moment to like The Smiths and these sorts of groups, and to me the lyrics are really depressing. I heard one the other day while I was in Kensington Market trying on some jeans and it gave me a headache. The Smiths, it was. Singing 'Oh my God, I can't get a job, what am I going to do?' As for this song, I listened to the first half and I had to turn it off. My mother was in the other room and she shouted, 'Nah, I don't like that one -- get it off!'" //// MES comments (in his Renegade book): "That's as good as it got inside Smash Hits: Page 3 birds airing their views. I think it's great, actually -- better than being harangued by Tony Parsons and Julie Burchill.""	0:05:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Putta Block "Putta Block" by "The Fall"	Totally Wired 7"	Rough Trade	1980	Recorded at Cargo Studios, Rochdale in July 1980. A Song sandwiched between two snippets of other songs..though the opening 40 seconds of "THE NWRA" is hardly a snippet. Putta Block is perhaps Mark E having a laugh...putting a block on his words and lyrics to confound and confuse the listener? It is a psychic block? Crackpot-pseudo history? Only he knows...	0:09:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	British People In Hot Weather	Telephone Thing 7"	Cog Sinister	1990	The Fall as ever skewered the humble UK holiday goer in the cheerfully acerbic British People In Hot Weather proving that there is indeed a Fall song for every occasion. This isn’t the Riviera, and as long as there is sun, there is trouble. The obvious reference for this song is Noel Coward's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen," a song mocking the British habit of eschewing a siesta in all the hotter colonies, where the natives are bemused by this behavior. The Fall would later entitle a track "Mad.Men-Eng.Dog."	0:13:20 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Shoulder Pads #1B "Shoulder Pads #1B" by "The Fall"	Hey! Luciani 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1986	MES: "Shoulder Pads is just about a lot of different people and why I think they're twats - there's two parts to the song, one on each side of the LP, but really I could have written about nine different songs on that subject. I suppose it is an odd title; it' s an American football term and I can't stand American football. It's so boring and complicated -like a sort of moronic chess." BRIX: Mark borrowed a shirt of mine that I had borrowed from my mother and it had shoulder pads in it. This struck me as hilarious - MES in shoulder pads. I just remember (sings riff) being so irritating.	0:16:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	2nd Dark Age "2nd Dark Age" by "The Fall"	Fiery Jack 7"	Step Forward Records	1980	Recorded in Wales during September 1979 & released January 1980; the song "veers from the general to the particular, but seems – where dates can be identified - to relate specifically to the politics of 1979. The year, lest we forget, that Thatcher became Prime Minister for the first time (the election was on 3rd May). Some of its themes seem to, maybe, vaguely (very vaguely) echo The Clash’s song “London Calling”, released in December 1979...The song has what seem to be clear references to contemporary political issues scattered throughout. There's a reference to ABBA in this song and MES was quoted in interview years later in 1999 and had this to say..."The references to ABBA here may be explicable in terms of the following quote by MES, which comes from a 14 page feature on ABBA in the May 1999 issue of Mojo magazine, as part of which various musicians were invited to talk about their favourite ABBA track. MES: "GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! (A MAN AFTER MIDNIGHT) My favourite, the real evil, pagan crypto-Nazi one. Genuinely frightening, wasn't it? They got really depraved after Fernando. I can't stand Swedes, me. They're pagans, aren't they? Liberal Nazis. I find it very weird this revival; but it fits in with the new regime we've got here: all cleanliness, no smoking, no drinking, all that crap. And open sex. All their stuff was based on The Beach Boys, the way they used to write, like, eight parts for each song. When we started out playing workmen's clubs, every fucking group was playing ABBA. The second Dark Age, we used to call it."	0:21:37 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Why Are People Grudgeful?	Why Are People Grudgeful? Single	Matador	1993	"Why Are People Grudgeful?" is a 1993 single by British post-punk band the Fall. It reached number 43 on the UK singles chart. The song is based on two Jamaican recordings from 1968, "People Funny Boy" by Lee Perry, and its answer record, "People Grudgeful" by Joe Gibbs, which are regarded as being among the first reggae records. In the mid-1960s Lee Perry worked with Joe Gibbs at Wirl Records in Kingston, but after a disagreement left to form his own label, Upsetter. His first release, "People Funny Boy", credited to Lee (King) Perry, was seen as a direct attack on Gibbs, and became highly popular, heralding the new reggae sound with its "loping, lazy, bass-driven beat". Gibbs retaliated with "People Grudgeful", credited to Sir Gibbs. Mark E. Smith combined parts of both Perry's and Gibbs' lyrics in the Fall's version. The band at the time of the recording comprised Smith (vocals), Craig Scanlon (guitar), Steve Hanley (bass), Dave Bush (keyboards), Simon Wolstencroft (drums, keyboards). The record was produced by ex-Fall member Simon Rogers.	0:23:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Hit The North (Part 1) "Hit The North (Part 1)" by "The Fall"	Hit The North 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1987		0:28:10 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Psycho Mafia "Psycho Mafia" by "The Fall"	Rehearsal Early '77 (Vol 1.) 7"	Total Eclipse Records	1977 / 8?	From a bootleg released sometime in the 80's (and later included in bonus tracks on a more recent expanded re-issue of The Fall's first album.) The three tracks on this album have a lot of attack & are the best quality I've heard of the earliest era of the band. The b-side has two songs (this being one) & is labelled "More Songs From The Front Parlour (Parts 1 & 2)" on the 7" itself. -- I wish there were more vol.'s of this series, as the "unofficial" releases stopped at Vol. 1.	0:38:09 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Victrola Time "Victrola Time" by "The Fall"	NIght of The Humerons (7")	Cherry Red Records	2012	One of my favourite songs from the final line-up of The Fall. - First released on 21 April 2012, limited edition 7" single of 1,000 copies, issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2012. - His lyrics & singing off the top is hilarious. A sort of "I challenge you to interpret this" kind of taunt for the fans, perhaps... The song is a sinister slab of Motorik-y Electronicische, it goes for the throat from the jump & never lets up. It thrilled me the first time I ever heard it, and continues to do so to this day.	0:40:29 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Chilinist "Chilinist" by "The Fall"	The Chiselers	Jet Records	1996	An absolute epic! First released on 12 February 1996. I remember Mark E. Smith stating in the press around that the time that they had been working on it longer than any other they'd recorded previously. Also (according to TheFall.Org ) this is the swansong of Craig Scanlon, who would leave the band before the 1996 album. The number of classic/longstanding members in the band at the time was staggering in their combined age of Fall service: "Mark E Smith - vocals, tapes // Craig Scanlon - guitar // Brix Smith - guitar // Steve Hanley - bass // Julia Nagle - keyboards // Simon Wolstencroft - drums, keyboards // Karl Burns - drums //// Produced by: Mike Bennett"	0:44:17 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Look, Know "Look, Know" by "The Fall"	Look, Know (7")	Kamera	1982	First released 19 April 1982, this track (side A) was recorded at Hijorite, Reykjavik, Iceland in September 1981. (Both sides of the 7" apparently left over from the Hex Enduction Hour sessions.) The two songs on the single featured: Mark E Smith - vocals, tapes, guitar / Marc Riley - guitar, keyboards, vocals / Craig Scanlon - guitar, keyboards, vocals / Steve Hanley - bass / Paul Hanley - drums, guitar / Karl Burns - drums, vocals, tapes / With: Kay Carroll - vocals, percussion // Produced by: Richard Mazda and Mark E Smith // Written: Smith/Riley/Hanley, S/Burns /////// I'm not sure why this song seemingly fell out of favour w/ Mark E. Smith, as some expanded re-issues chronicling this era of the band excluded this song at Smith's behest. Look, Know (Info/Artwork)	0:50:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Susan vs Youthclub "Susan vs Youthclub" by "The Fall"	The Fall vs 2003 (7")	Action Records	2002	First released on 2 December 2002 on Action Records. Recorded at Gracielands Studio, Rochdale late 2002. Mark E Smith - vocals / Ben Pritchard - guitar, vocals / Jim Watts - bass, guitar, programming / Dave Milner - drums, vocals, keyboards / Elena Poulou - keyboards, vocals // Produced by: Grant Showbiz. Re: the lyrics... "Reading book I had no teeth / To talk about on that day / Badly Boy Drawn had confiscated them / And put them in / A mouldy old accoustic case / Safe and warm for a Saturday" ...Personally, I hear this as 'Badly Bug Drawn", and these lyrics in particular reference this incident: "Badly Drawn Boy is English singer-songwriter Damon Gough, with whom the Fall collaborated on [1998 'Masquerade' B-side] Calendar. Apparently the collaboration began with MES, one drunken evening, mistaking Badly Drawn Boy for a cabbie, and then, when the latter gave him a ride home, leaving his teeth in the car."	0:55:24 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Monocard (Single Mix) "Monocard (Single Mix)" by "The Fall"	Laptop Dog (7")	Cherry Red Records	2011	First released on 7 November 2011, limited edition 7" single that plays at 33rpm. Cosmos 7 and Monocard are different to the album versions. Mark E Smith - vocals / Peter Greenway - guitar / David Spurr - bass / Keiron Melling - drums / Eleni Poulou - keyboards //// Produced by: Mark E Smith, Simon "Ding" Archer - - - - - - Recorded at Metropolis Studios, London and Toerag Studio, London in mid 2011	0:59:04 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Container Drivers "Container Drivers" by "The Fall"	Kicker Conspiracy 7"	Rough Trade	1983	A gatefold 7" with a couple of 1980 Peel sessions on the second disc... Specifically from the session that was recorded: 1981-03-24. &First Broadcast: 31 March 1981. ----- One of my all time favourites, this embodies MES' working class sensibilities, the "Mancabilly" sound, and also another fantastic speed fueled romper. The song positions itself in a rather extensive tradition of trucker songs, while at the same time lampooning the genre (cf. the huge snare build-up to the 3 second guitar solo), which comprises mostly country and rockabilly paeans to, or laments about, the trucking life. Like Fiery Jack, the titular drivers are probably best imagined as middle aged men devoted to hard living and prolific alcohol consumption. Also, although in interviews and writings MES always describes Jack as an alcoholic, the lyrics suggest he is a speed freak, and (particularly in the early 80s, an era before drug testing) truck drivers have long been notorious for their speed use.	1:11:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy "Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy" by "The Fall"	Higgle-Dy Piggle-Dy / Monk Time 7"	Play Loud	2006	Featured on the v/a double disc tribute to The Monks: "Silver Monk Time"; this was also released on a split 7" as the flipside to 'Monk Time' by Alec Empire Feat. Gary Burger (An original member of The Monks). -- The Monks, referred to by the name monks on record sleeves, were an American rock band formed in Gelnhausen, West Germany in 1964. Since the band's 1960s heyday, the influence of the Monks has grown steadily, beginning with krautrock then followed by successive generations of musicians in disparate genres such as punk rock, experimental, alternative and hip-hop, with acts such as the Dead Kennedys, the Beastie Boys, the White Stripes, the Fall and The Early Years exhibiting signs of their influence. The Fall covered "I Hate You" (re-titled "Black Monk Theme Part I" and "Oh, How To Do Now" (re-titled "Black Monk Theme Part II" on their 1990 album Extricate and "Shut Up" on their 1994 album Middle Class Revolt.	1:14:49 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Theme From Sparta F.C.#2	Theme From Sparta F.C. #2 7"	Action Records	2004	This version of the song was recorded by the band in early 2004, after Simon Archer replaced Watts. This version, produced by Smith and Archer and known as "Theme from Sparta F.C. #2", was issued as a single in July 2004, and reached number 66 on the UK singles chart. From 2005 until 2009, the song was used as theme music to the Final Score section of BBC television's Saturday afternoon sports coverage, and as a result Smith was invited on one occasion to read the football scores. Written from the perspective of a Greek football fan, with references to rivalries with Galatasaray and Chelsea F.C. Smith said that "Elena came up with some great words and I added some words I thought were like the Greek football fans' attitude, you know. I do know quite a few Greek football fans, and their attitude to soccer is completely different to Britain. Sort of cobbled it all together, put a Greek motif on the guitar and that was it."	1:18:12 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cab it Up! "Cab it Up!" by "The Fall"	Cab It Up!/Dead Beat Descendant 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1989	Moving along now to the taxi ranks of Manchester and the unmistakable sound of Mark E Smith’s barking voice, one of many Fall songs in which taxis appear, in a frenetic schedule between gig, studio and pub. Hailing a cab is probably best known in the song Touch Sensitive (previously highlighted on SOTD), but his particular number, from the latter stages of Brix Smith era, and the album I Am Kurious Oranj, 1988, one of their best, has a particularly energetic, fresh sound, particularly with that keyboard riff by Marcia Schofield, and Stephen Hanley on bass. The guitar opening riff and rhythm is reminiscent of the song Dead Beat Descendant, which did not make the album but appeared on a later compilation. The song expresses a frenetic period for the band, when they were frequently touring, but also performing the album to accompany performances of Michael Clark & Company ballet – I Am Curious, Orange – for this the album was planned as a soundtrack. This statement from MES in the New Musical Express: "Like there's a song 'Cab It Up' in there which was originally intended to be about William Of Orange living it up after he'd got to London. But it's turned into a song about Michael Clark and his mates, full of gross insults. They haven't realised that yet. Ha ha!"	1:22:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Ed's Babe "Ed's Babe" by "The Fall"	Ed's Babe 12"			Am I cheating? A bit. Is this a 12" single? Yes. But it plays at 45rpm and I'm sneaking it in because it's a great tune. "Folly is the cloak of knavery" is a quote from William Blake's poem The Marriage of Heaven and Hell. When people have children in Fall songs, the results are never exactly positive (see "Married, Two Kids" and "My Ex-Classmates' Kids").	1:26:55 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Sleep Debt Snatches "Sleep Debt Snatches" by "The Fall"	There's A Ghost In My House 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1987	From a gatefold 7".	1:30:10 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Guest Informant (Live in Vienna) [Miscue /Wrong Speed / Restart]	Sniffin' Rock Presents - Given Away With Sniffin' Rock #9	Sniffin' Rock	1989	(From a v/a 7" included with issue 9 of the Sniffin' Rock 'zine, 1989.) A storming live version that I may actually prefer to the recorded studio track. Speaking of live performances, I was very recenly surprised to find that though the original recording was released in1988 on a b-side, it had been performed as early as 1986, with a very different (otherwise unreleased) intro. You can find the version I mean (and the whole concert, in fact, downloadable at "name your price") on the fabulous Sheffield Tape Archive Bandcamp Page (Sheffield Poly 26-11-1986)	1:38:30 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cosmos 7 (Single Mix) "Cosmos 7 (Single Mix)" by "The Fall"	Laptop Dog (7")	Cherry Red Records	2011	One of many examples where the 7" single version varies significantly from the album. Lyrically, there is very little overlap between the two. (This single version features many more lyrics, in fact.) Length-wise, it is 30 seconds longer with an extended intro. Mix-wise, there are different elements, parts & approaches throughout. Listening casually/distractedly, you might think they're almost the same. Listening closely, the differences are considerable. -- "First released on 7 November 2011, limited edition 7" single that plays at 33rpm. Cosmos 7 and Monocard are different to the album versions. //// Mark E Smith - vocals / Peter Greenway - guitar / David Spurr - bass / Keiron Melling - drums / Eleni Poulou - keyboards //// Produced by: Mark E Smith, Simon "Ding" Archer - - - - - - Recorded at Metropolis Studios, London and Toerag Studio, London in mid 2011 -- Lastly, please visit the excellent Annotated Fall to find a very detailed account of both versions of this song & more: Annotated Fall ("Cosmos 7" page)	1:44:18 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Hey! Luciani (Original Version)	Sounds Showcase 1 (v/a 7")	Beggar's Banquet	1987	Another rare Fall track included as a free bonus various artists 7" with one of the UK music papers of the time. From the back cover of the single: "Not the recent single version, but the original John Leckie recording of the track, which presaged the staging of Mark E. Smith's play of the same title. Last year celebrating ten years of The Fall, this sparkling yet sinister track shows their continuing ability to surprise and stimulate with every new release."	1:47:37 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Janet vs Johnny "Janet vs Johnny" by "The Fall"	The Fall vs 2003 (7")	Action Records	2002	Would later be released in a much different version on LP as "Janet, Johnny + James" -- First released on 2 December 2002 on Action Records. Recorded at Gracielands Studio, Rochdale late 2002. Mark E Smith - vocals / Ben Pritchard - guitar, vocals / Jim Watts - bass, guitar, programming / Dave Milner - drums, vocals, keyboards / Elena Poulou - keyboards, vocals // Produced by: Grant Showbiz. From Annotated Fall... "The riff, written by Ben Pritchard, is influenced by Mason Williams' hit "Classical Gas." Jim Watts ("sdOK") from the Fall online forum (this is not all entirely relevant, but I put his whole post here as it's worth reading): "That is correct from what I remember. Ben was learning Classical Gas around that time and Mark had him play it a bit and it influenced JJ+J. I think Ben was just learning finger picking technique and Classical Gas is an excellent song for that. The original song was by Mason Williams I think but I prefer the Clapton version. The original is a bit cheese. I am pretty good with the old finger picking nowadays. Keep thinking of doing a solo acoustic set. But most times you start playing instrumental music, no matter how amazing it is people tend to just start talking and waiting for some singing. And I refuse to do all that banging and tapping stuff that seems to be in vogue in acoustic circles at the moment. It is just slap bass on acoustic guitar. And just as irritating to me. Also Steve the bass player was a very proficient finger picker. He made me jealous by playing Cavatina one time. I am petty like that." //// From Pritchard on Twitter, 14 September 2019: the J,J & J riff was kind of inspired by classical gas, I was trying to learn it at the time. I pinched one of the chord transitions and changed the tempo and just repeated it."	1:51:22 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Zandra (Excerpt / Fade) "Zandra (Excerpt / Fade)" by "The Fall"	Popcorn Double Feature (7")	Cog Sinister/Fontana	1990	First released 12 March 1990, on a limited edition 7". // Mark E Smith - vocals / Craig Scanlon - guitar / Martin Bramah - guitar / Steve Hanley - bass / Marcia Schofield - keyboards / Simon Wolstencroft - drums. // Produced by Mark E. Smith. Written by Smith/Beddington (M. Beddington was a pseudonym used during this era for Martin Bramah re: his co-composition credits.) At the time, this was a somewhat rare b-side [since surfacing via re-issues] & a catchy one at that. I have always very much enjoyed this song, despite its relegation to the corners of the catalogue. Bonus pedantic trivia: 1990 was the year M.E.S. chose to address the fact no Fall songs had started with the letter "Z"... 'Zandra' and 'Zagreb', two different b-sides in 1990, would be the only songs in the 250+ song catalogue to start with the letter "Z".	1:56:29 (Pop-up)

Listener comments!
	7:57pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Hello!!! The Fall... More Fall in the Fall... Singles Going... Singles... For Hellraising. Happy to see you!
	7:57pm DJ Babs: Hello Hello everyone! Grab your bevvie and imbibeables and chips 'cause we're kicking off the show in just a few minutes....
	7:59pm Robm: ahh my two favorite people on the air
	7:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Robm @7:59 Where?
	8:00pm Robm: you two derek and babs
	8:01pm ultradamno: Babs! Derek! Beach Bums!
	8:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Robm @8:00 Awww, that's wild... So sweet! Lovely to see you Robm!
	8:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:01 Ultra hello!
	8:01pm Robm: ↳ ultradamno @8:01 evening ultra
	8:01pm Tom P: Ready for the Fall Classic Part 2
	🏝 8:02pm Scott_Oz: G'day Babs, Derek & Beached as! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻🌊⛱️🌴
	8:02pm Robm: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:01 same here derek hi scott
	8:03pm DJ Babs: sorry all having trouble connecting! not sure why..hang tight
	8:03pm ultradamno: I love it when The Fall had smooth clarinet music
	🏝 8:03pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Robm @8:02 G'day Rob! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	8:04pm laurapanic: ↳ ultradamno @8:03 Mark E was also a classically trained ragtime alto clarinet player. Soz that you don't know your Fall canon.
	8:04pm Robm: ↳ DJ Babs @8:03 do what you have too babs
	🏝 8:04pm Scott_Oz: This clarinet can fuck off
	8:04pm DJ Babs: WE ARE ON!!! Sorry for the delay!
	8:04pm laurapanic: hooray!
	8:04pm DJ Babs: FUCK THAT CLARINET
	8:04pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:04 hi laura
	8:04pm laurapanic: I missed the show live last week, but I did the GLORIOUS ARCHIVE
	8:05pm ultradamno: No disrespecting the licorice stick!
	8:05pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:04 Hi Rob
	8:05pm DJ Babs: YAAAS AND WE ARE ONLY HALFWAY THERE!
	🏝 8:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ laurapanic @8:04 Laura Fall'n in for duty! 🍻😎🤙💨☕🌻
	🏝 8:05pm WR: Hi, I'm not single, I'm not steady, I like clarinet, are we going to have a problem here?
	8:06pm laurapanic: ↳ Scott_Oz @8:05 This show is SINGLE HANDEDLY responsible for my Fall love. Every special this month has been GLORIOUS
	8:06pm Robm: ↳ Scott_Oz @8:05 yes the aussie contginit strikes again
	🏝 8:06pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:05 Yes it has a place mate, as far the fuck away from me preferably. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	8:07pm DJ Babs: Aww that is so great! @WR Lol....naww we like clarinet just not THAT clarinet in that particular moment!
	8:07pm DJ Babs: I'm dying to learn saxophone
	8:07pm Derek Westerholm: This song was legit big in Aus/Nz in its day. Hence the '82 tour.
	8:08pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:06 laura this station has ruined my sleep, listening to the overnight shows
	8:08pm Alli B: Hello!!
	🏝 8:08pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:07 Had me at " thought I'd cut my dick off"!
	8:09pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ WR @8:05 WR, this is an excellent comment & question. Nope, we are ok here.
	8:09pm Robm: howdy alli b
	8:09pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:08 THATS LOVE
	8:09pm DJ Babs: Alliiiiiii! I love that this is his love/sideye ode to the NS scene.
	8:09pm laurapanic: ↳ Alli B @8:08 Hi Alli
	8:09pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:09 or insanity:)
	8:10pm ultradamno: Tough choice for me between this and Naked Raygun's Libido for open dick removing contemplation
	8:10pm ultradamno: (...edge kind of goes to NR for ultimate canine feeding)
	8:11pm laurapanic: agree....its super funny most of the time.
	8:12pm Tom P: ↳ Tom P @8:01 Oh Part 3. Missed Part 1. Better listen to it on archives!
	8:12pm laurapanic: Sam Fox....she would have had a ball with Mark tho
	🏝 8:12pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:10 There's a regular at Trash Cult who does a little open mic poetry. He's often referencing genital self mutilation.
	8:12pm laurapanic: ↳ Tom P @8:12 Part 1 is really cool too
	8:13pm Tom P: ↳ laurapanic @8:12 Based on Part 2 and Part 3 so far I'm not surprised Laura. Thanks!
	8:13pm DJ Babs: LOL that was long winded!
	8:14pm Robm: babs and derek would rather listen to some great tunage then listen to biden blather right now
	8:15pm DJ Babs: As long as we are providing a distraction, then we are doing our job!
	8:16pm Derek Westerholm: Ah, yes, I have a second here to say helloes for once! Hi Laura, wonderful it worked to make it into the chat this week... Hello Tom P, lovely to see you back for another dose of Fallcon... Scott, hello! Open mic poetry can be... ____... Alli, hello hello!!! Ultra, yes, licorice... yes...
	8:16pm Robm: ↳ DJ Babs @8:15 great distraction it is
	8:17pm DJ Babs: That song really does make me laugh. As does this one.
	8:19pm ultradamno: A companion piece to Australians In Europe
	8:20pm DJ Babs: indeed it is!
	8:21pm laurapanic: ↳ ultradamno @8:19 my partner in Brooklyn in December
	🏝 8:21pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:19 I was in Europe for months in early 90's, you wouldn't have known I was Aussie. But yeah, fucken cold Winter!!
	🏝 8:21pm WR: ↳ Song: "British People In Hot Weather" by "The Fall" humour? Yes!
	8:22pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:21 laura your going to be in NYC in december?
	8:24pm DJ Babs: Ahh just vibein’ here with my wine and tacos lol
	8:27pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:22 not me, my partner. Mad Dino Jr fan, so going to see them 4 times in Brooklyn
	8:29pm DJ Babs: wow that's commitment!!!
	8:30pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:27 damn ih well maybe next time
	8:36pm ultradamno: Don't tempt me to like Abba by calling them pagans
	8:36pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:36 Haha
	8:38pm ultradamno: US FB is mighty boring....except for those seconds when you get to see a players leg flip around the wrong way.
	8:41pm DJ Babs: It’s true I’m both pagan and Swede friendly!
	8:42pm Alli B: 😂😂😂
	8:44pm DJ Babs: I just learned Roth American football this year! Finally
	8:44pm DJ Babs: * north
	8:46pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Song: "Victrola Time" by "The Fall" Oh that vocal entry off the top of this song, haha...
	8:46pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:38 bleacherreport.com...
	8:46pm DJ Babs: It’s the best.
	8:47pm shellioh: hey guys! i made it! yay!!!
	8:47pm shellioh: sorry i’m late! ❤️
	8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:47 Hello there Shellioh! How goes?
	8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:47 There's no late on the beach... It's simply... A beach.
	8:48pm shellioh: good! just been crazy busy as usual!
	8:48pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:46 Ooof I don’t like limbs facing the wrong way..
	8:49pm DJ Babs: Hi shelli!
	8:49pm shellioh: ❤️❤️❤️
	8:49pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:48 Busy can be good... Crazy busy can be... ??
	8:50pm DJ Babs: Your latest project looks amazing shelli!
	8:50pm laurapanic: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:47 beach is beach
	8:50pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @8:50 Sage.
	8:51pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Chilinist" by "The Fall" Interesting lyrics (as usual)
	8:51pm DJ Babs: Tonite is a smorgasbord of excellent tunage.
	8:51pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @8:51 This song is just crazy! My favourite of the 2nd Brix era by far...
	8:52pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:51 Yes, have to favourite this
	8:52pm ultradamno: Then you probably don't want to scroll down to the Destry Wright pic on that link....the Joe Theismann one was one of the only times I've actually watched football (and the one I had in mind), it was a good choice
	8:53pm shellioh: thanks babs!
	8:54pm shellioh: this song is bonkers and i love it!
	8:55pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:52 Canadian football seems more my speed…
	8:57pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:54 Shelli, right?!!! So much going on in that one... Like almost all Fall songs, it's the gift that keeps giving, if you wish to revisit... always somthing to discover lurking in the mix...
	8:58pm northguineahills: @Babs y Derek: Jen is djing at Bar Orwell tonight!
	8:58pm northguineahills: somebody drop a hint of what the theme is tonight, por favor?
	8:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @8:58 Awesome! I've been meaning to check it out, it's not too far from us... We saw her DJing last week... She's been busy!
	8:59pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:59 (she's a bestie of mine)
	8:59pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @8:58 Jen and I are doing a night together Nov 9th…I’m running to the club right after the show!
	9:00pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @8:59 She's super great!
	9:00pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @8:59 give her a hug for me (i threw her a msg earlier)
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: greetings Babs & Derek and beach bums
	9:01pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @8:59 Such a small world! And yes tonight is week 3 of FALL CON Tonight is our single going steady show
	9:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:00 Hello there coelacanth∅! Lovely to see you here, as always!
	9:01pm DJ Babs: Heya coelacanth!
	9:02pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:00 are you coeling my way?
	9:05pm laurapanic: Just chipping in that the Brix/Marty Wilson-Piper LP is very good. I have posted it before but I am being cheeky and doing so again.
	9:05pm Tom P: ↳ northguineahills @9:02 Hi Coel and NGH
	9:09pm ultradamno: That's not bad, but it's not exactly Beefheart refusing Bono's request to collaborate with a note that read "dear bongo, no"
	9:09pm northguineahills: ↳ Tom P @9:05 tom!
	9:10pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @9:02 well my coeling's not dripping, so hopefully yes!
	9:10pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @9:09 res.cloudinary.com...
	9:10pm coelacanth∅: 'evening Tom P!
	9:11pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Susan vs Youthclub" by "The Fall" Great story!
	9:13pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:11 One of my favourite M.E.S. related stories!
	9:14pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @9:05 I am definitely going to make a point of living with it very soon, only heard pieces in passing & I really meant to dive into it last time you mentioned it!
	9:17pm DJ Babs: I’m missing all the coela puns!!!
	9:19pm DJ Babs: Fall + monks = yes
	9:21pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:17 you can just fish for 'em!
	9:21pm DJ Babs: Omg no
	9:22pm DJ Babs: LOL!!!
	9:22pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy" by "The Fall" YEH!!! EVERYONE LOVES A SONG THAT GOES YEH
	9:22pm DJ Babs: And then on to a song that goes YEH!
	9:23pm DJ Babs: OOPS I MEANT HEY!
	9:28pm laurapanic: ↳ DJ Babs @9:22 hey and yeh get the folks excited
	9:29pm DJ Babs: This is most definitely a speed-y set
	9:29pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 Agreed!! Best lyrics ever.
	9:30pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Song: "Cab it Up!" by "The Fall" Ah, that part where they play fast & loose with the pitch control... There's a few songs where there's an intentional shifting of the actual speed of the track. It's like they warp time. Very unsettling and oddly earwormy.
	9:30pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ DJ Babs @9:29 JAMC concur.
	9:31pm Derek Westerholm: Hey hey hey hey. Do do do da do do do. Hey hey hey.
	9:32pm laurapanic: she is nameless, Ed's babe...
	9:32pm Derek Westerholm: It's a longstanding tradition, though, really, isn't it...?!!
	9:32pm Bob Barth: Hey all you good people! D&B you got my head bobbin!
	9:32pm DJ Babs: The chord progression on this is just so pleasing.
	9:33pm DJ Babs: Hi Bob! Just in time for the great backups!!!
	9:33pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Bob Barth @9:32 Hey there BB, what have you next on Sheena's in "1 night stand?"
	9:34pm Bob Barth: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:33 Way Too Much!! Tonight: The Milk Carton Kids, The Beths, The Breeders & a whole mess of other nutty goodness.
	9:36pm ultradamno: A RINGER!
	9:36pm laurapanic: ↳ Bob Barth @9:34 that sounds DREAMY.
	9:40pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Bob Barth @9:34 Bob, that's a killer show through & through!
	9:40pm Bob Barth: ↳ laurapanic @9:36 Stick around! We'll make more!! wfmu.org...
	9:40pm Bob Barth: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:40 Thank you sir!!
	9:41pm ultradamno: I heard once they had a deal to also adapt The Classical for a Winnie The Pooh cartoon "where are the obligatory Tiggers?"
	9:42pm ultradamno: sheffieldtapearchive.bandcamp.com
	9:43pm coelacanth∅: my kicker conspiracy 7" is a 2-record set... a 7" gatefold with "new puritan"
	9:45pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Guest Informant (Live in Vienna) [Miscue /Wrong S... awwwwww yehhhhh
	9:45pm Tom P: ↳ ultradamno @9:42 My hometown. Saw many great shows at Sheffield U. But left before The Fall played there I think
	9:46pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:43 That version of New Puritan is essential... I love how they leave these definitive versions of songs casually littered as one-offs in their catalogue. They are a band that you can't ever get to the bottom of...
	9:47pm DJ Babs: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:43 Is yours the rough trade or earmark release?
	9:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @9:45 The live version I linked up in the comments section from the (pay what you can) Sheffield Tape Archives session has an intro for this song that I've never heard them play on any other recording, live or otherwise.
	9:48pm laurapanic: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:47 I love the amount of archive available.....I'm mostly unfamiliar with any songs and am hearing most for the first time ever. Imagine my JOY
	9:48pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @9:45 Honestly that part of England had the best music scene.
	🏝 9:48pm Scott_Oz: Thanks Babs & Derek! For a fucken Fall-tastic trilogy of shows! I can't listen to some musicians who've died without getting sad. But whenever I hear The Fall, I'm just fucken glad Mark E Smith has lived! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻❣️❣️
	9:49pm northguineahills: ↳ Tom P @9:45 but today is thursday! /sorry, all convos w/ me always devolve to footy....
	9:49pm DJ Babs: I agree!!! I am glad more people are appreciative of his genius
	9:50pm coelacanth∅: ↳ DJ Babs @9:47 rough trade
	9:50pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:48 Finding a band that’s new to you that gave a MASSIVE catalogue is a windfall of joy!
	9:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:47 oh, jen's billy is a toronto fc supporter. i chat w/ him about mls and canadian footy....
	9:51pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @9:50 We have pals that are VERY into the footy! What with the mid scene being strong here especially…
	9:51pm DJ Babs: *mod
	9:53pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:51 i used to go to orlando city games in nyc before i moved to fl. will do so again once i'm back in nyc next month....
	9:54pm northguineahills: babs and derek, nice to descend w/ the fall w/ y'all! mad thanks!
	9:55pm Bob Barth: ↳ Song: "Hey! Luciani (Original Version)" by "The Fall" Diggin This!!
	9:56pm Tom P: Another fantastic show, guys! Thanks so much!
	9:56pm DJ Babs: Thank you so much everyone! Next week we wrap Up With FALLOWEEN!!!!
	🏝 9:58pm Scott_Oz: Cheers my dears! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🍷🍷
	9:59pm Bob Barth: You guys rule!! Great show!
	10:00pm northguineahills: autumnal that, babs!
	10:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Derek! Thanks Babs!
	10:01pm DJ Babs: Have a wonderful week everyone! Take care and stick around for Bob Barth!!!!
	10:04pm Derek Westerholm: Thanks all for being with us here tonight, so lovely to see each and every one of you in the chat & hello there in the archives for those of you who visit after the fact...

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
	a song
The Fall	Cash 'N' Carry (Live / Excerpt)	A Part Of America Therein, 1981	Cottage Records	1982	So begins our Hellraiser special - Fall on 45 - extravaganza show! This, however, is not from a single... It does parody 'Stars on 45', though, something they did quite often during shows around this time... From the re-issue notes... "'C'N'C' is the skewiff highlight, with its organ frenzy sounding not unlike Ray Manzaraek being overtaken by the first year infants. The lyrics and Smith's delivery make a case for just how unique the group are; Smith almost like a poet or a stand-up spieliing away over the most skeletal of beats. Of course, there is always the pleasure of hearing this particular song, which was, in part, influenced by the group's previous rip to America, and with its barbed words, "then there was America; we went there; big A&M Herb was there; His offices had fresh air, but his rota was mediocre US purge, rock n pop filth," before again rounding on English groups who "act like peasants with free milk, on a route to the loot." There is a fantastic 'Stars On 45' addition to the song, parodying the recent trend that had swept the UK and American charts, with Burns - who was frequently mistaken for The Clash's Mick Jones while in New York, fact fans - frantically breaking into a disco beat..."	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Lie Dream of a Casino Soul	Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul 7"	Kamera Records	1981	Smith spoke to the NME in 1983 about the song: That song actually did create quite a bit of resentment in the North because people thought it was being snobby and horrible about the old soul boys, which it was never about anyway. Because I was brought up with people that were into Northern Soul five years before anybody down here [in London] had even heard about it. But they've all grown out of it, which is what the song is about, but it wasn't putting them down at all. If anything, it was glorifying them, but not in the format of, where are those soul boys that used to be here? There are actually a lot of old soul boys who like The Fall, because that music was always offbeat and it gives them a feeling for the sort of wackiness that you find in our music. It's really funny because Dexys bust a gut trying to attract that audience and never even got close. All the kids I know just thought it was pathetic 'cause they were wearing the clothes they'd been wearing six years ago and ripping off all these horn riffs that they knew off by heart from the originals.	0:01:50 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Living Too Late "Living Too Late" by "The Fall"	Living Too Late 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1986	We pick up the under-the-voice music with the song we faded out last week... Samantha Fox actually reviewed the song in Smash Hits: "I didn't like this at all -- it's really crappy. He sounds like he's been having yodelling lessons. It seems to be the fashion of the moment to like The Smiths and these sorts of groups, and to me the lyrics are really depressing. I heard one the other day while I was in Kensington Market trying on some jeans and it gave me a headache. The Smiths, it was. Singing 'Oh my God, I can't get a job, what am I going to do?' As for this song, I listened to the first half and I had to turn it off. My mother was in the other room and she shouted, 'Nah, I don't like that one -- get it off!'" //// MES comments (in his Renegade book): "That's as good as it got inside Smash Hits: Page 3 birds airing their views. I think it's great, actually -- better than being harangued by Tony Parsons and Julie Burchill.""	0:05:05 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Putta Block "Putta Block" by "The Fall"	Totally Wired 7"	Rough Trade	1980	Recorded at Cargo Studios, Rochdale in July 1980. A Song sandwiched between two snippets of other songs..though the opening 40 seconds of "THE NWRA" is hardly a snippet. Putta Block is perhaps Mark E having a laugh...putting a block on his words and lyrics to confound and confuse the listener? It is a psychic block? Crackpot-pseudo history? Only he knows...	0:09:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	British People In Hot Weather	Telephone Thing 7"	Cog Sinister	1990	The Fall as ever skewered the humble UK holiday goer in the cheerfully acerbic British People In Hot Weather proving that there is indeed a Fall song for every occasion. This isn’t the Riviera, and as long as there is sun, there is trouble. The obvious reference for this song is Noel Coward's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen," a song mocking the British habit of eschewing a siesta in all the hotter colonies, where the natives are bemused by this behavior. The Fall would later entitle a track "Mad.Men-Eng.Dog."	0:13:20 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Shoulder Pads #1B "Shoulder Pads #1B" by "The Fall"	Hey! Luciani 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1986	MES: "Shoulder Pads is just about a lot of different people and why I think they're twats - there's two parts to the song, one on each side of the LP, but really I could have written about nine different songs on that subject. I suppose it is an odd title; it' s an American football term and I can't stand American football. It's so boring and complicated -like a sort of moronic chess." BRIX: Mark borrowed a shirt of mine that I had borrowed from my mother and it had shoulder pads in it. This struck me as hilarious - MES in shoulder pads. I just remember (sings riff) being so irritating.	0:16:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	2nd Dark Age "2nd Dark Age" by "The Fall"	Fiery Jack 7"	Step Forward Records	1980	Recorded in Wales during September 1979 & released January 1980; the song "veers from the general to the particular, but seems – where dates can be identified - to relate specifically to the politics of 1979. The year, lest we forget, that Thatcher became Prime Minister for the first time (the election was on 3rd May). Some of its themes seem to, maybe, vaguely (very vaguely) echo The Clash’s song “London Calling”, released in December 1979...The song has what seem to be clear references to contemporary political issues scattered throughout. There's a reference to ABBA in this song and MES was quoted in interview years later in 1999 and had this to say..."The references to ABBA here may be explicable in terms of the following quote by MES, which comes from a 14 page feature on ABBA in the May 1999 issue of Mojo magazine, as part of which various musicians were invited to talk about their favourite ABBA track. MES: "GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! (A MAN AFTER MIDNIGHT) My favourite, the real evil, pagan crypto-Nazi one. Genuinely frightening, wasn't it? They got really depraved after Fernando. I can't stand Swedes, me. They're pagans, aren't they? Liberal Nazis. I find it very weird this revival; but it fits in with the new regime we've got here: all cleanliness, no smoking, no drinking, all that crap. And open sex. All their stuff was based on The Beach Boys, the way they used to write, like, eight parts for each song. When we started out playing workmen's clubs, every fucking group was playing ABBA. The second Dark Age, we used to call it."	0:21:37 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Why Are People Grudgeful?	Why Are People Grudgeful? Single	Matador	1993	"Why Are People Grudgeful?" is a 1993 single by British post-punk band the Fall. It reached number 43 on the UK singles chart. The song is based on two Jamaican recordings from 1968, "People Funny Boy" by Lee Perry, and its answer record, "People Grudgeful" by Joe Gibbs, which are regarded as being among the first reggae records. In the mid-1960s Lee Perry worked with Joe Gibbs at Wirl Records in Kingston, but after a disagreement left to form his own label, Upsetter. His first release, "People Funny Boy", credited to Lee (King) Perry, was seen as a direct attack on Gibbs, and became highly popular, heralding the new reggae sound with its "loping, lazy, bass-driven beat". Gibbs retaliated with "People Grudgeful", credited to Sir Gibbs. Mark E. Smith combined parts of both Perry's and Gibbs' lyrics in the Fall's version. The band at the time of the recording comprised Smith (vocals), Craig Scanlon (guitar), Steve Hanley (bass), Dave Bush (keyboards), Simon Wolstencroft (drums, keyboards). The record was produced by ex-Fall member Simon Rogers.	0:23:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Hit The North (Part 1) "Hit The North (Part 1)" by "The Fall"	Hit The North 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1987		0:28:10 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Psycho Mafia "Psycho Mafia" by "The Fall"	Rehearsal Early '77 (Vol 1.) 7"	Total Eclipse Records	1977 / 8?	From a bootleg released sometime in the 80's (and later included in bonus tracks on a more recent expanded re-issue of The Fall's first album.) The three tracks on this album have a lot of attack & are the best quality I've heard of the earliest era of the band. The b-side has two songs (this being one) & is labelled "More Songs From The Front Parlour (Parts 1 & 2)" on the 7" itself. -- I wish there were more vol.'s of this series, as the "unofficial" releases stopped at Vol. 1.	0:38:09 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Victrola Time "Victrola Time" by "The Fall"	NIght of The Humerons (7")	Cherry Red Records	2012	One of my favourite songs from the final line-up of The Fall. - First released on 21 April 2012, limited edition 7" single of 1,000 copies, issued exclusively for Record Store Day 2012. - His lyrics & singing off the top is hilarious. A sort of "I challenge you to interpret this" kind of taunt for the fans, perhaps... The song is a sinister slab of Motorik-y Electronicische, it goes for the throat from the jump & never lets up. It thrilled me the first time I ever heard it, and continues to do so to this day.	0:40:29 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Chilinist "Chilinist" by "The Fall"	The Chiselers	Jet Records	1996	An absolute epic! First released on 12 February 1996. I remember Mark E. Smith stating in the press around that the time that they had been working on it longer than any other they'd recorded previously. Also (according to TheFall.Org ) this is the swansong of Craig Scanlon, who would leave the band before the 1996 album. The number of classic/longstanding members in the band at the time was staggering in their combined age of Fall service: "Mark E Smith - vocals, tapes // Craig Scanlon - guitar // Brix Smith - guitar // Steve Hanley - bass // Julia Nagle - keyboards // Simon Wolstencroft - drums, keyboards // Karl Burns - drums //// Produced by: Mike Bennett"	0:44:17 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Look, Know "Look, Know" by "The Fall"	Look, Know (7")	Kamera	1982	First released 19 April 1982, this track (side A) was recorded at Hijorite, Reykjavik, Iceland in September 1981. (Both sides of the 7" apparently left over from the Hex Enduction Hour sessions.) The two songs on the single featured: Mark E Smith - vocals, tapes, guitar / Marc Riley - guitar, keyboards, vocals / Craig Scanlon - guitar, keyboards, vocals / Steve Hanley - bass / Paul Hanley - drums, guitar / Karl Burns - drums, vocals, tapes / With: Kay Carroll - vocals, percussion // Produced by: Richard Mazda and Mark E Smith // Written: Smith/Riley/Hanley, S/Burns /////// I'm not sure why this song seemingly fell out of favour w/ Mark E. Smith, as some expanded re-issues chronicling this era of the band excluded this song at Smith's behest. Look, Know (Info/Artwork)	0:50:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Susan vs Youthclub "Susan vs Youthclub" by "The Fall"	The Fall vs 2003 (7")	Action Records	2002	First released on 2 December 2002 on Action Records. Recorded at Gracielands Studio, Rochdale late 2002. Mark E Smith - vocals / Ben Pritchard - guitar, vocals / Jim Watts - bass, guitar, programming / Dave Milner - drums, vocals, keyboards / Elena Poulou - keyboards, vocals // Produced by: Grant Showbiz. Re: the lyrics... "Reading book I had no teeth / To talk about on that day / Badly Boy Drawn had confiscated them / And put them in / A mouldy old accoustic case / Safe and warm for a Saturday" ...Personally, I hear this as 'Badly Bug Drawn", and these lyrics in particular reference this incident: "Badly Drawn Boy is English singer-songwriter Damon Gough, with whom the Fall collaborated on [1998 'Masquerade' B-side] Calendar. Apparently the collaboration began with MES, one drunken evening, mistaking Badly Drawn Boy for a cabbie, and then, when the latter gave him a ride home, leaving his teeth in the car."	0:55:24 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Monocard (Single Mix) "Monocard (Single Mix)" by "The Fall"	Laptop Dog (7")	Cherry Red Records	2011	First released on 7 November 2011, limited edition 7" single that plays at 33rpm. Cosmos 7 and Monocard are different to the album versions. Mark E Smith - vocals / Peter Greenway - guitar / David Spurr - bass / Keiron Melling - drums / Eleni Poulou - keyboards //// Produced by: Mark E Smith, Simon "Ding" Archer - - - - - - Recorded at Metropolis Studios, London and Toerag Studio, London in mid 2011	0:59:04 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Container Drivers "Container Drivers" by "The Fall"	Kicker Conspiracy 7"	Rough Trade	1983	A gatefold 7" with a couple of 1980 Peel sessions on the second disc... Specifically from the session that was recorded: 1981-03-24. &First Broadcast: 31 March 1981. ----- One of my all time favourites, this embodies MES' working class sensibilities, the "Mancabilly" sound, and also another fantastic speed fueled romper. The song positions itself in a rather extensive tradition of trucker songs, while at the same time lampooning the genre (cf. the huge snare build-up to the 3 second guitar solo), which comprises mostly country and rockabilly paeans to, or laments about, the trucking life. Like Fiery Jack, the titular drivers are probably best imagined as middle aged men devoted to hard living and prolific alcohol consumption. Also, although in interviews and writings MES always describes Jack as an alcoholic, the lyrics suggest he is a speed freak, and (particularly in the early 80s, an era before drug testing) truck drivers have long been notorious for their speed use.	1:11:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy "Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy" by "The Fall"	Higgle-Dy Piggle-Dy / Monk Time 7"	Play Loud	2006	Featured on the v/a double disc tribute to The Monks: "Silver Monk Time"; this was also released on a split 7" as the flipside to 'Monk Time' by Alec Empire Feat. Gary Burger (An original member of The Monks). -- The Monks, referred to by the name monks on record sleeves, were an American rock band formed in Gelnhausen, West Germany in 1964. Since the band's 1960s heyday, the influence of the Monks has grown steadily, beginning with krautrock then followed by successive generations of musicians in disparate genres such as punk rock, experimental, alternative and hip-hop, with acts such as the Dead Kennedys, the Beastie Boys, the White Stripes, the Fall and The Early Years exhibiting signs of their influence. The Fall covered "I Hate You" (re-titled "Black Monk Theme Part I" and "Oh, How To Do Now" (re-titled "Black Monk Theme Part II" on their 1990 album Extricate and "Shut Up" on their 1994 album Middle Class Revolt.	1:14:49 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Theme From Sparta F.C.#2	Theme From Sparta F.C. #2 7"	Action Records	2004	This version of the song was recorded by the band in early 2004, after Simon Archer replaced Watts. This version, produced by Smith and Archer and known as "Theme from Sparta F.C. #2", was issued as a single in July 2004, and reached number 66 on the UK singles chart. From 2005 until 2009, the song was used as theme music to the Final Score section of BBC television's Saturday afternoon sports coverage, and as a result Smith was invited on one occasion to read the football scores. Written from the perspective of a Greek football fan, with references to rivalries with Galatasaray and Chelsea F.C. Smith said that "Elena came up with some great words and I added some words I thought were like the Greek football fans' attitude, you know. I do know quite a few Greek football fans, and their attitude to soccer is completely different to Britain. Sort of cobbled it all together, put a Greek motif on the guitar and that was it."	1:18:12 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cab it Up! "Cab it Up!" by "The Fall"	Cab It Up!/Dead Beat Descendant 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1989	Moving along now to the taxi ranks of Manchester and the unmistakable sound of Mark E Smith’s barking voice, one of many Fall songs in which taxis appear, in a frenetic schedule between gig, studio and pub. Hailing a cab is probably best known in the song Touch Sensitive (previously highlighted on SOTD), but his particular number, from the latter stages of Brix Smith era, and the album I Am Kurious Oranj, 1988, one of their best, has a particularly energetic, fresh sound, particularly with that keyboard riff by Marcia Schofield, and Stephen Hanley on bass. The guitar opening riff and rhythm is reminiscent of the song Dead Beat Descendant, which did not make the album but appeared on a later compilation. The song expresses a frenetic period for the band, when they were frequently touring, but also performing the album to accompany performances of Michael Clark & Company ballet – I Am Curious, Orange – for this the album was planned as a soundtrack. This statement from MES in the New Musical Express: "Like there's a song 'Cab It Up' in there which was originally intended to be about William Of Orange living it up after he'd got to London. But it's turned into a song about Michael Clark and his mates, full of gross insults. They haven't realised that yet. Ha ha!"	1:22:01 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Ed's Babe "Ed's Babe" by "The Fall"	Ed's Babe 12"			Am I cheating? A bit. Is this a 12" single? Yes. But it plays at 45rpm and I'm sneaking it in because it's a great tune. "Folly is the cloak of knavery" is a quote from William Blake's poem The Marriage of Heaven and Hell. When people have children in Fall songs, the results are never exactly positive (see "Married, Two Kids" and "My Ex-Classmates' Kids").	1:26:55 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Sleep Debt Snatches "Sleep Debt Snatches" by "The Fall"	There's A Ghost In My House 7"	Beggar's Banquet	1987	From a gatefold 7".	1:30:10 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Guest Informant (Live in Vienna) [Miscue /Wrong Speed / Restart]	Sniffin' Rock Presents - Given Away With Sniffin' Rock #9	Sniffin' Rock	1989	(From a v/a 7" included with issue 9 of the Sniffin' Rock 'zine, 1989.) A storming live version that I may actually prefer to the recorded studio track. Speaking of live performances, I was very recenly surprised to find that though the original recording was released in1988 on a b-side, it had been performed as early as 1986, with a very different (otherwise unreleased) intro. You can find the version I mean (and the whole concert, in fact, downloadable at "name your price") on the fabulous Sheffield Tape Archive Bandcamp Page (Sheffield Poly 26-11-1986)	1:38:30 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Cosmos 7 (Single Mix) "Cosmos 7 (Single Mix)" by "The Fall"	Laptop Dog (7")	Cherry Red Records	2011	One of many examples where the 7" single version varies significantly from the album. Lyrically, there is very little overlap between the two. (This single version features many more lyrics, in fact.) Length-wise, it is 30 seconds longer with an extended intro. Mix-wise, there are different elements, parts & approaches throughout. Listening casually/distractedly, you might think they're almost the same. Listening closely, the differences are considerable. -- "First released on 7 November 2011, limited edition 7" single that plays at 33rpm. Cosmos 7 and Monocard are different to the album versions. //// Mark E Smith - vocals / Peter Greenway - guitar / David Spurr - bass / Keiron Melling - drums / Eleni Poulou - keyboards //// Produced by: Mark E Smith, Simon "Ding" Archer - - - - - - Recorded at Metropolis Studios, London and Toerag Studio, London in mid 2011 -- Lastly, please visit the excellent Annotated Fall to find a very detailed account of both versions of this song & more: Annotated Fall ("Cosmos 7" page)	1:44:18 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Hey! Luciani (Original Version)	Sounds Showcase 1 (v/a 7")	Beggar's Banquet	1987	Another rare Fall track included as a free bonus various artists 7" with one of the UK music papers of the time. From the back cover of the single: "Not the recent single version, but the original John Leckie recording of the track, which presaged the staging of Mark E. Smith's play of the same title. Last year celebrating ten years of The Fall, this sparkling yet sinister track shows their continuing ability to surprise and stimulate with every new release."	1:47:37 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Fall	Janet vs Johnny "Janet vs Johnny" by "The Fall"	The Fall vs 2003 (7")	Action Records	2002	Would later be released in a much different version on LP as "Janet, Johnny + James" -- First released on 2 December 2002 on Action Records. Recorded at Gracielands Studio, Rochdale late 2002. Mark E Smith - vocals / Ben Pritchard - guitar, vocals / Jim Watts - bass, guitar, programming / Dave Milner - drums, vocals, keyboards / Elena Poulou - keyboards, vocals // Produced by: Grant Showbiz. From Annotated Fall... "The riff, written by Ben Pritchard, is influenced by Mason Williams' hit "Classical Gas." Jim Watts ("sdOK") from the Fall online forum (this is not all entirely relevant, but I put his whole post here as it's worth reading): "That is correct from what I remember. Ben was learning Classical Gas around that time and Mark had him play it a bit and it influenced JJ+J. I think Ben was just learning finger picking technique and Classical Gas is an excellent song for that. The original song was by Mason Williams I think but I prefer the Clapton version. The original is a bit cheese. I am pretty good with the old finger picking nowadays. Keep thinking of doing a solo acoustic set. But most times you start playing instrumental music, no matter how amazing it is people tend to just start talking and waiting for some singing. And I refuse to do all that banging and tapping stuff that seems to be in vogue in acoustic circles at the moment. It is just slap bass on acoustic guitar. And just as irritating to me. Also Steve the bass player was a very proficient finger picker. He made me jealous by playing Cavatina one time. I am petty like that." //// From Pritchard on Twitter, 14 September 2019: the J,J & J riff was kind of inspired by classical gas, I was trying to learn it at the time. I pinched one of the chord transitions and changed the tempo and just repeated it."	1:51:22 (Pop-up)
The Fall	Zandra (Excerpt / Fade) "Zandra (Excerpt / Fade)" by "The Fall"	Popcorn Double Feature (7")	Cog Sinister/Fontana	1990	First released 12 March 1990, on a limited edition 7". // Mark E Smith - vocals / Craig Scanlon - guitar / Martin Bramah - guitar / Steve Hanley - bass / Marcia Schofield - keyboards / Simon Wolstencroft - drums. // Produced by Mark E. Smith. Written by Smith/Beddington (M. Beddington was a pseudonym used during this era for Martin Bramah re: his co-composition credits.) At the time, this was a somewhat rare b-side [since surfacing via re-issues] & a catchy one at that. I have always very much enjoyed this song, despite its relegation to the corners of the catalogue. Bonus pedantic trivia: 1990 was the year M.E.S. chose to address the fact no Fall songs had started with the letter "Z"... 'Zandra' and 'Zagreb', two different b-sides in 1990, would be the only songs in the 250+ song catalogue to start with the letter "Z".	1:56:29 (Pop-up)

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	7:57pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Hello!!! The Fall... More Fall in the Fall... Singles Going... Singles... For Hellraising. Happy to see you!
	7:57pm DJ Babs: Hello Hello everyone! Grab your bevvie and imbibeables and chips 'cause we're kicking off the show in just a few minutes....
	7:59pm Robm: ahh my two favorite people on the air
	7:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Robm @7:59 Where?
	8:00pm Robm: you two derek and babs
	8:01pm ultradamno: Babs! Derek! Beach Bums!
	8:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Robm @8:00 Awww, that's wild... So sweet! Lovely to see you Robm!
	8:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:01 Ultra hello!
	8:01pm Robm: ↳ ultradamno @8:01 evening ultra
	8:01pm Tom P: Ready for the Fall Classic Part 2
	🏝 8:02pm Scott_Oz: G'day Babs, Derek & Beached as! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻🌊⛱️🌴
	8:02pm Robm: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:01 same here derek hi scott
	8:03pm DJ Babs: sorry all having trouble connecting! not sure why..hang tight
	8:03pm ultradamno: I love it when The Fall had smooth clarinet music
	🏝 8:03pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Robm @8:02 G'day Rob! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	8:04pm laurapanic: ↳ ultradamno @8:03 Mark E was also a classically trained ragtime alto clarinet player. Soz that you don't know your Fall canon.
	8:04pm Robm: ↳ DJ Babs @8:03 do what you have too babs
	🏝 8:04pm Scott_Oz: This clarinet can fuck off
	8:04pm DJ Babs: WE ARE ON!!! Sorry for the delay!
	8:04pm laurapanic: hooray!
	8:04pm DJ Babs: FUCK THAT CLARINET
	8:04pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:04 hi laura
	8:04pm laurapanic: I missed the show live last week, but I did the GLORIOUS ARCHIVE
	8:05pm ultradamno: No disrespecting the licorice stick!
	8:05pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:04 Hi Rob
	8:05pm DJ Babs: YAAAS AND WE ARE ONLY HALFWAY THERE!
	🏝 8:05pm Scott_Oz: ↳ laurapanic @8:04 Laura Fall'n in for duty! 🍻😎🤙💨☕🌻
	🏝 8:05pm WR: Hi, I'm not single, I'm not steady, I like clarinet, are we going to have a problem here?
	8:06pm laurapanic: ↳ Scott_Oz @8:05 This show is SINGLE HANDEDLY responsible for my Fall love. Every special this month has been GLORIOUS
	8:06pm Robm: ↳ Scott_Oz @8:05 yes the aussie contginit strikes again
	🏝 8:06pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:05 Yes it has a place mate, as far the fuck away from me preferably. 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
	8:07pm DJ Babs: Aww that is so great! @WR Lol....naww we like clarinet just not THAT clarinet in that particular moment!
	8:07pm DJ Babs: I'm dying to learn saxophone
	8:07pm Derek Westerholm: This song was legit big in Aus/Nz in its day. Hence the '82 tour.
	8:08pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:06 laura this station has ruined my sleep, listening to the overnight shows
	8:08pm Alli B: Hello!!
	🏝 8:08pm Scott_Oz: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:07 Had me at " thought I'd cut my dick off"!
	8:09pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ WR @8:05 WR, this is an excellent comment & question. Nope, we are ok here.
	8:09pm Robm: howdy alli b
	8:09pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:08 THATS LOVE
	8:09pm DJ Babs: Alliiiiiii! I love that this is his love/sideye ode to the NS scene.
	8:09pm laurapanic: ↳ Alli B @8:08 Hi Alli
	8:09pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:09 or insanity:)
	8:10pm ultradamno: Tough choice for me between this and Naked Raygun's Libido for open dick removing contemplation
	8:10pm ultradamno: (...edge kind of goes to NR for ultimate canine feeding)
	8:11pm laurapanic: agree....its super funny most of the time.
	8:12pm Tom P: ↳ Tom P @8:01 Oh Part 3. Missed Part 1. Better listen to it on archives!
	8:12pm laurapanic: Sam Fox....she would have had a ball with Mark tho
	🏝 8:12pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:10 There's a regular at Trash Cult who does a little open mic poetry. He's often referencing genital self mutilation.
	8:12pm laurapanic: ↳ Tom P @8:12 Part 1 is really cool too
	8:13pm Tom P: ↳ laurapanic @8:12 Based on Part 2 and Part 3 so far I'm not surprised Laura. Thanks!
	8:13pm DJ Babs: LOL that was long winded!
	8:14pm Robm: babs and derek would rather listen to some great tunage then listen to biden blather right now
	8:15pm DJ Babs: As long as we are providing a distraction, then we are doing our job!
	8:16pm Derek Westerholm: Ah, yes, I have a second here to say helloes for once! Hi Laura, wonderful it worked to make it into the chat this week... Hello Tom P, lovely to see you back for another dose of Fallcon... Scott, hello! Open mic poetry can be... ____... Alli, hello hello!!! Ultra, yes, licorice... yes...
	8:16pm Robm: ↳ DJ Babs @8:15 great distraction it is
	8:17pm DJ Babs: That song really does make me laugh. As does this one.
	8:19pm ultradamno: A companion piece to Australians In Europe
	8:20pm DJ Babs: indeed it is!
	8:21pm laurapanic: ↳ ultradamno @8:19 my partner in Brooklyn in December
	🏝 8:21pm Scott_Oz: ↳ ultradamno @8:19 I was in Europe for months in early 90's, you wouldn't have known I was Aussie. But yeah, fucken cold Winter!!
	🏝 8:21pm WR: ↳ Song: "British People In Hot Weather" by "The Fall" humour? Yes!
	8:22pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:21 laura your going to be in NYC in december?
	8:24pm DJ Babs: Ahh just vibein’ here with my wine and tacos lol
	8:27pm laurapanic: ↳ Robm @8:22 not me, my partner. Mad Dino Jr fan, so going to see them 4 times in Brooklyn
	8:29pm DJ Babs: wow that's commitment!!!
	8:30pm Robm: ↳ laurapanic @8:27 damn ih well maybe next time
	8:36pm ultradamno: Don't tempt me to like Abba by calling them pagans
	8:36pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ ultradamno @8:36 Haha
	8:38pm ultradamno: US FB is mighty boring....except for those seconds when you get to see a players leg flip around the wrong way.
	8:41pm DJ Babs: It’s true I’m both pagan and Swede friendly!
	8:42pm Alli B: 😂😂😂
	8:44pm DJ Babs: I just learned Roth American football this year! Finally
	8:44pm DJ Babs: * north
	8:46pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Song: "Victrola Time" by "The Fall" Oh that vocal entry off the top of this song, haha...
	8:46pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @8:38 bleacherreport.com...
	8:46pm DJ Babs: It’s the best.
	8:47pm shellioh: hey guys! i made it! yay!!!
	8:47pm shellioh: sorry i’m late! ❤️
	8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:47 Hello there Shellioh! How goes?
	8:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:47 There's no late on the beach... It's simply... A beach.
	8:48pm shellioh: good! just been crazy busy as usual!
	8:48pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:46 Ooof I don’t like limbs facing the wrong way..
	8:49pm DJ Babs: Hi shelli!
	8:49pm shellioh: ❤️❤️❤️
	8:49pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:48 Busy can be good... Crazy busy can be... ??
	8:50pm DJ Babs: Your latest project looks amazing shelli!
	8:50pm laurapanic: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:47 beach is beach
	8:50pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @8:50 Sage.
	8:51pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Chilinist" by "The Fall" Interesting lyrics (as usual)
	8:51pm DJ Babs: Tonite is a smorgasbord of excellent tunage.
	8:51pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @8:51 This song is just crazy! My favourite of the 2nd Brix era by far...
	8:52pm Tom P: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:51 Yes, have to favourite this
	8:52pm ultradamno: Then you probably don't want to scroll down to the Destry Wright pic on that link....the Joe Theismann one was one of the only times I've actually watched football (and the one I had in mind), it was a good choice
	8:53pm shellioh: thanks babs!
	8:54pm shellioh: this song is bonkers and i love it!
	8:55pm DJ Babs: ↳ ultradamno @8:52 Canadian football seems more my speed…
	8:57pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ shellioh @8:54 Shelli, right?!!! So much going on in that one... Like almost all Fall songs, it's the gift that keeps giving, if you wish to revisit... always somthing to discover lurking in the mix...
	8:58pm northguineahills: @Babs y Derek: Jen is djing at Bar Orwell tonight!
	8:58pm northguineahills: somebody drop a hint of what the theme is tonight, por favor?
	8:59pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @8:58 Awesome! I've been meaning to check it out, it's not too far from us... We saw her DJing last week... She's been busy!
	8:59pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @8:59 (she's a bestie of mine)
	8:59pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @8:58 Jen and I are doing a night together Nov 9th…I’m running to the club right after the show!
	9:00pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ northguineahills @8:59 She's super great!
	9:00pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @8:59 give her a hug for me (i threw her a msg earlier)
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: greetings Babs & Derek and beach bums
	9:01pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @8:59 Such a small world! And yes tonight is week 3 of FALL CON Tonight is our single going steady show
	9:01pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:00 Hello there coelacanth∅! Lovely to see you here, as always!
	9:01pm DJ Babs: Heya coelacanth!
	9:02pm northguineahills: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:00 are you coeling my way?
	9:05pm laurapanic: Just chipping in that the Brix/Marty Wilson-Piper LP is very good. I have posted it before but I am being cheeky and doing so again.
	9:05pm Tom P: ↳ northguineahills @9:02 Hi Coel and NGH
	9:09pm ultradamno: That's not bad, but it's not exactly Beefheart refusing Bono's request to collaborate with a note that read "dear bongo, no"
	9:09pm northguineahills: ↳ Tom P @9:05 tom!
	9:10pm coelacanth∅: ↳ northguineahills @9:02 well my coeling's not dripping, so hopefully yes!
	9:10pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @9:09 res.cloudinary.com...
	9:10pm coelacanth∅: 'evening Tom P!
	9:11pm Tom P: ↳ Song: "Susan vs Youthclub" by "The Fall" Great story!
	9:13pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Tom P @9:11 One of my favourite M.E.S. related stories!
	9:14pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @9:05 I am definitely going to make a point of living with it very soon, only heard pieces in passing & I really meant to dive into it last time you mentioned it!
	9:17pm DJ Babs: I’m missing all the coela puns!!!
	9:19pm DJ Babs: Fall + monks = yes
	9:21pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:17 you can just fish for 'em!
	9:21pm DJ Babs: Omg no
	9:22pm DJ Babs: LOL!!!
	9:22pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Higgle-Dy-Piggle-Dy" by "The Fall" YEH!!! EVERYONE LOVES A SONG THAT GOES YEH
	9:22pm DJ Babs: And then on to a song that goes YEH!
	9:23pm DJ Babs: OOPS I MEANT HEY!
	9:28pm laurapanic: ↳ DJ Babs @9:22 hey and yeh get the folks excited
	9:29pm DJ Babs: This is most definitely a speed-y set
	9:29pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 Agreed!! Best lyrics ever.
	9:30pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Song: "Cab it Up!" by "The Fall" Ah, that part where they play fast & loose with the pitch control... There's a few songs where there's an intentional shifting of the actual speed of the track. It's like they warp time. Very unsettling and oddly earwormy.
	9:30pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ DJ Babs @9:29 JAMC concur.
	9:31pm Derek Westerholm: Hey hey hey hey. Do do do da do do do. Hey hey hey.
	9:32pm laurapanic: she is nameless, Ed's babe...
	9:32pm Derek Westerholm: It's a longstanding tradition, though, really, isn't it...?!!
	9:32pm Bob Barth: Hey all you good people! D&B you got my head bobbin!
	9:32pm DJ Babs: The chord progression on this is just so pleasing.
	9:33pm DJ Babs: Hi Bob! Just in time for the great backups!!!
	9:33pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Bob Barth @9:32 Hey there BB, what have you next on Sheena's in "1 night stand?"
	9:34pm Bob Barth: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:33 Way Too Much!! Tonight: The Milk Carton Kids, The Beths, The Breeders & a whole mess of other nutty goodness.
	9:36pm ultradamno: A RINGER!
	9:36pm laurapanic: ↳ Bob Barth @9:34 that sounds DREAMY.
	9:40pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ Bob Barth @9:34 Bob, that's a killer show through & through!
	9:40pm Bob Barth: ↳ laurapanic @9:36 Stick around! We'll make more!! wfmu.org...
	9:40pm Bob Barth: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:40 Thank you sir!!
	9:41pm ultradamno: I heard once they had a deal to also adapt The Classical for a Winnie The Pooh cartoon "where are the obligatory Tiggers?"
	9:42pm ultradamno: sheffieldtapearchive.bandcamp.com
	9:43pm coelacanth∅: my kicker conspiracy 7" is a 2-record set... a 7" gatefold with "new puritan"
	9:45pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "Guest Informant (Live in Vienna) [Miscue /Wrong S... awwwwww yehhhhh
	9:45pm Tom P: ↳ ultradamno @9:42 My hometown. Saw many great shows at Sheffield U. But left before The Fall played there I think
	9:46pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:43 That version of New Puritan is essential... I love how they leave these definitive versions of songs casually littered as one-offs in their catalogue. They are a band that you can't ever get to the bottom of...
	9:47pm DJ Babs: ↳ coelacanth∅ @9:43 Is yours the rough trade or earmark release?
	9:47pm Derek Westerholm: ↳ laurapanic @9:45 The live version I linked up in the comments section from the (pay what you can) Sheffield Tape Archives session has an intro for this song that I've never heard them play on any other recording, live or otherwise.
	9:48pm laurapanic: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:47 I love the amount of archive available.....I'm mostly unfamiliar with any songs and am hearing most for the first time ever. Imagine my JOY
	9:48pm DJ Babs: ↳ Tom P @9:45 Honestly that part of England had the best music scene.
	🏝 9:48pm Scott_Oz: Thanks Babs & Derek! For a fucken Fall-tastic trilogy of shows! I can't listen to some musicians who've died without getting sad. But whenever I hear The Fall, I'm just fucken glad Mark E Smith has lived! 🌏🌞🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🌻❣️❣️
	9:49pm northguineahills: ↳ Tom P @9:45 but today is thursday! /sorry, all convos w/ me always devolve to footy....
	9:49pm DJ Babs: I agree!!! I am glad more people are appreciative of his genius
	9:50pm coelacanth∅: ↳ DJ Babs @9:47 rough trade
	9:50pm DJ Babs: ↳ laurapanic @9:48 Finding a band that’s new to you that gave a MASSIVE catalogue is a windfall of joy!
	9:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Derek Westerholm @9:47 oh, jen's billy is a toronto fc supporter. i chat w/ him about mls and canadian footy....
	9:51pm DJ Babs: ↳ northguineahills @9:50 We have pals that are VERY into the footy! What with the mid scene being strong here especially…
	9:51pm DJ Babs: *mod
	9:53pm northguineahills: ↳ DJ Babs @9:51 i used to go to orlando city games in nyc before i moved to fl. will do so again once i'm back in nyc next month....
	9:54pm northguineahills: babs and derek, nice to descend w/ the fall w/ y'all! mad thanks!
	9:55pm Bob Barth: ↳ Song: "Hey! Luciani (Original Version)" by "The Fall" Diggin This!!
	9:56pm Tom P: Another fantastic show, guys! Thanks so much!
	9:56pm DJ Babs: Thank you so much everyone! Next week we wrap Up With FALLOWEEN!!!!
	🏝 9:58pm Scott_Oz: Cheers my dears! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺🍺🍷🍷
	9:59pm Bob Barth: You guys rule!! Great show!
	10:00pm northguineahills: autumnal that, babs!
	10:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Derek! Thanks Babs!
	10:01pm DJ Babs: Have a wonderful week everyone! Take care and stick around for Bob Barth!!!!
	10:04pm Derek Westerholm: Thanks all for being with us here tonight, so lovely to see each and every one of you in the chat & hello there in the archives for those of you who visit after the fact...

Transmissions from Echo Beach with Derek Westerholm and DJ Babs: Playlist from October 19, 2023

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