WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 24, 2024

Listener comments!
	🤖 5:58pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	5:58pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtontinels!
	🤖 6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:02pm newton: good evening Mark & techtonic plates
	🤖 6:03pm DjLorraine: hooray for Mark and techtonians!
	6:03pm chris in the redwoods: hello, all.
	🤖 6:04pm newton: I have to pee
	6:04pm gabriel: hey everyone!
	6:05pm DraculasPissBoy: Ignorance is bliss
	6:05pm gabriel: my friends don't care.
	🤖 6:07pm MarciB: ↳ gabriel @6:05 Niether do most of mine- they either shrug or say I'm too far left or paranoid and to stop being so negative etc.
	6:07pm chresti: Google “workday” is becoming the payroll system for the city of Los Angeles , that we’re forced to use
	🤖 6:07pm herb.nyc: Yes! We should be made aware! But I can’t handle the truth!
	6:07pm Teknishun: Techtonic and Gin
	6:08pm gabriel: same, marci. same same same. flippin sux.
	6:09pm Dean: Lying sack of crap, Clapper.
	6:09pm gabriel: that's so messed up, chresti.
	🤖 6:09pm Bas NL: Hellos Mark and all!
	🤖 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Surveilees!
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: Hi chresti, ultra, DiL, newton, DjL, chris_itr, gabriel, DPB, Marci, herb, Teknishun, Dean, Bas, Webham! Appreciate all of you joining this evening.
	🤖 6:09pm DjLorraine: ↳ gabriel @6:05 It's frustrating bc they will wait until its too late. They are better at reacting then planning.
	6:10pm gabriel: my dad worked for the nsa. he raised me paranoid af.
	🤖 6:10pm newton: clap on, clap off, the clapper
	6:11pm Fredericks: ↳ DraculasPissBoy @6:05 Only for the ignorant, for the rest of u,s it is annoying at the least.
	🤖 6:11pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:13pm Dean: For a stark illustration of how information was once stored and organized versus the same c.2000, compare Fritz Machlup's 1962 book, The production and distribution of knowledge in the United States with Hal Varian & Peter Lyman's How much information?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi Tim!
	6:15pm mackeral: Hi all, I'm late. thinking now of Shoshana Zuboff and renewing my commitment to resume that fantastic book
	6:16pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: A bit late to the show. Hello Mark and everyone.
	6:17pm Dean: You know, surveillance was normalized for many of us when we were little kids. You know, Santa Claus. "He sees you when you're sleeping He knows when you're awake He knows if you've been bad or good So be good for goodness sake!"
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Dean @6:17 "Elf on the shelf" has further normalized surveillance. Some of them now actually have cameras installed.
	🤖 6:19pm newton: I can't pee with zuckerberg staring at my junk
	6:20pm ultradamno: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:19 ...and dead relatives.
	🤖 6:20pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:19 Fellas, fellas, let’s not forget the thousands of years of an omniscient god of your choice.
	🤖 6:21pm MarciB: And the folks I know who are concerned about privacy mostly say "hey, at least we're not China!" as if that makes it all ok.
	6:21pm joe mulligan: I'm a heavy strava user, and make everything private.. it's been known that people will see your posts and go rob your house after seeing you have pricey bikes
	6:22pm joe_rosevear: Hi, all! I'm late.
	6:24pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák" x.com...
	6:25pm Dean: We might be willing to tolerate the exhaustive collection of our movements if we were able to access the data. "Where did I put my wallet?"
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:21 Ugh.
	6:27pm Dean: This was Glenn Greenwald's argument for the last couple decades, and it remains completely valid. It's not a risk of embarrassment. It's a risk of a bad actor having information that you want secured, because it affords access to finances, accounts, and such.
	6:28pm mackeral: the more data points, the more valuable the inferences
	6:28pm ultradamno: By the way, the new Orphan Black spinoff series appears to have moved from clones to 3D printed robot clones.
	6:29pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:09 😂
	🤖 6:29pm MarciB: ↳ Dean @6:27 This is exactly what I tell anyone who'll listen...but the response I usually get is "that's a rarity" or a shrug. and a "worry about that if it happens" etc
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ mackeral @6:28 ..and they'll never share the inferences with you. that's the real value that they're monetizing.
	6:30pm Dean: That's nuts, MarciB! Losing a credit card is not a rarity, and it's a huge inconvenience when it happens.
	6:31pm Dean: And then there are the state actions Tau is talking about.
	6:31pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:28 ...maybe animated simulacrums more than robot.
	6:32pm DraculasPissBoy: Better turn Wi-Fi off my bong.
	6:32pm gabriel: keep that bong analog!
	6:32pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ gabriel @6:32 😂
	6:33pm joe_rosevear: Oops. I will check my apps. I normally turn off the option to reveal my location. OK, I'm good. Two apps can use my location, but only while in use.
	6:33pm yippie: if a cop makes the dog bark, you lose your fourth amendment rights also
	6:34pm gabriel: my friend was talking to his wife about me the other day and his phone fed him my imdb info courtesy of Meta AI
	🤖 6:35pm MarciB: I read a blog post about a filmmaker who learned her bf was going to propose to her b/c diamond rings and wedding ads started appearing in her IG feed.
	6:36pm DraculasPissBoy: Siri has entered the chat
	6:39pm Dean: Just another argument in favor of rotating your tires...with your neighbors'.
	6:39pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ Dean @6:39 Brilliant
	6:40pm paddy in matawan: ↳ Dean @6:39 Haha Community defeats the robots. Next on Geraldo!
	6:40pm dale: hey now. batteries die in those. you don't have to have the sensors replaced when you get new tires. you may have a low pressure light on your dash but if you check your air pressure with a guage you'll be fine. don't think you can fail an inspection if the tire light is on.
	6:41pm weezycarneezy: So which spy is my car insurance most likely using?
	🤖 6:41pm tim: A-ha! I was just going to ask how it TPMS identified specific cars.
	🤖 6:41pm MarciB: And here I thought it was a good thing in about our 2013 Mini ... letting us know to put air into the tires...well at least we have a CD player on our dash, not a touch screen.
	6:41pm Fredericks: Even my 1999 Ford van is vulnerable? I don't think so. I remember an early electric car being hijacked through the tires.
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Fredericks @6:41 Are your tires from 1999?
	6:42pm gabriel: whaaaa that is fecked up!!!
	6:42pm dale: ↳ tim @6:41 the sensors have to be calibrated to the car they are installed on. i guess it could broadcast the body control module info.
	6:43pm listener 126464: TPMS light has been on in my 2011 civic since I acquired it 5 yrs. ago.
	6:43pm DraculasPissBoy: I upload nudes via TPMS
	6:44pm dale: ↳ listener 126464 @6:43 fight the power!
	6:44pm P-90: Our old friend Kashmir Hill
	🤖 6:45pm tim: Steal yr face!
	6:47pm ultradamno: When robots make their own sexbots mastodon.social...
	6:47pm mackeral: an article on the wifi/bluetooth stuff Byron talked about: www.notus.org...
	6:47pm gabriel: hey siri, when's the apocalypse?
	6:47pm traven: ↳ DraculasPissBoy @6:43 Did they appear pneumatic?
	🤖 6:49pm tim: ↳ dale @6:42 Got it. So I’m guessing that tires bought and installed at TireTown, the TPMS isn’t linked to the car. But it can be used to match the tires to the car through surveillance.
	6:49pm ?: ↳ dale @6:40 quick fix which often works on many vehicles when the tire light is on. Over fill the tires by 3-4 lbs. and drive it. It will often reset to off.
	🤖 6:49pm herb.nyc: I was just telling my neice’s husband of the tire pressure thing. And I said “this doesn’t sound right, but…”. But it’s right! The show of Dave Mandl, get info at Fandango
	🤖 6:49pm MarciB: ↳ @6:49 ohh thank you!
	6:50pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ traven @6:47 Finally dropped the baby fat
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1924: Just tuning in and gettin off work
	6:50pm dale: ↳ @6:49 cool. i would just put a piece of tape over the light.
	6:50pm Steve Del Sol: The sensor is mounted to the rim, the tire remains just a tire.
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1924: Going to get in the shower
	6:50pm ?: ↳ dale @6:50 That was my second choice :0
	6:51pm DraculasPissBoy: Those sniffers are looking for the China white hookup
	🤖 6:51pm tim: ↳ @6:49 What happens when you refill at proper PSI?
	6:52pm Jeff Moore: Serendipitous Surveillance: I happened past the radio station just as our host was arriving, and he graciously allowed me to grab a couple of snaps since the light was so great today. www.flickr.com... www.flickr.com...
	6:52pm Eugene R: TPMS is even worse, since its additional effect is to make it impossible for independent mechanics to fix a flat, since the TPMS system will not reset without a specific computer code being issued.
	6:52pm Sam: I’m convinced this is the REAL reason they legalized weed. So the millions of users would stop being paranoid about surveillance and start to accept it.
	6:52pm dale: ↳ @6:50 i think a lot of tire shops will only mount new tires with new sensors because of liability issues if you have a blowout and have a crack up.
	🤖 6:52pm PaulRobeson1924: Smart shower* You bathed 39 minutes slower this week than last week. You may need a doctor- here is a list of Amazon approved doctors and try Thorazine?
	6:53pm gabriel: im with you, sam. and to sell doritos.
	6:53pm ?: ↳ tim @6:51 from a lower pressure? or do you mean after you overfill? Mine are simple bluetooth devices that pair with the cars ecm. Battery in device on the rime goes dead it can be replaced but tire shops would rather charge you for a whole new transmitter & valve stem assy.
	6:54pm Steve Del Sol: ↳ Eugene R @6:52 That is not true fellas.....
	6:55pm DraculasPissBoy: My damn detachable penis. Gotta turn off it’s Bluetooth setting
	🤖 6:55pm MarciB: and my surveillance phone is listening to Mark talk about our current surveillance state. Sigh.
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1924: Edward Snowden
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1924: Not only can we but try and stop us
	6:56pm dale: tpms gave my wife a warning a couple times, one was a screw in the tire. glad she paid attention and called me, came with an inflator and got her home so i could remove the wheel and get the tire plugged.
	🤖 6:56pm tim: Here’s another way to work around vehicular surveillance. If you are able to, walk, bike, skateboard, or take public transit to get where you’re going.
	6:56pm ?: ↳ Steve Del Sol @6:54 my hondas, nor my hyundais need a code to reset. Dealership had a friends BMW convinced she needed to bring it in for a "reset" at $150 a pop. I told her try the overfilling method..no more problems
	6:57pm DraculasPissBoy: 🔥
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: The Television is smart. The shower is smart. The can is smart. I flush twice and it recommends a brain doctor?
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Byron!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm herb.nyc: Yes, the truth. Thx for telling us, and thx to Byron Tau.
	6:57pm DraculasPissBoy: Grazie Mark
	6:57pm ?: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:57 Sounds confused over which end is up :)
	6:57pm bleubombersune: Thanks Mark
	6:57pm Sam: And excommunicate X!
	6:58pm gabriel: thanks mark! not sure i feel any better tho... let me check. nope, definitely worse.
	6:58pm Steve Del Sol: Its kindg we are being surveilled of like sayin' by our fuel gauge....
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks Mark
	6:59pm Fredericks: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:42 No.
	6:59pm joe_rosevear: Well, it doesn't sound good!
	6:59pm ?: 90.1FM has come back to life..Yea!!!!
	🤖 6:59pm tim: Thanks Mark and Byron for the thoughtful discussion.
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: But thanks for the bad news!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Thank you for the freedom of expression!
	7:00pm Coach32sm: Oh boy my life gets complicated now, but I like it, yes I do!!!!
	7:11pm Fredericks: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:52 Mark looks exactly the same in both pictures.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 24, 2024

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June 24, 2024: Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control"

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Today: Byron Tau, author, “Means of Control”

• Means of Control: How the Hidden Alliance of Tech and Government Is Creating a New American Surveillance State

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The surveillance state is here: discussing with Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control"
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	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
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	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"	0:42:51 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
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Listener comments!
	🤖 5:58pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	5:58pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtontinels!
	🤖 6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	🤖 6:02pm newton: good evening Mark & techtonic plates
	🤖 6:03pm DjLorraine: hooray for Mark and techtonians!
	6:03pm chris in the redwoods: hello, all.
	🤖 6:04pm newton: I have to pee
	6:04pm gabriel: hey everyone!
	6:05pm DraculasPissBoy: Ignorance is bliss
	6:05pm gabriel: my friends don't care.
	🤖 6:07pm MarciB: ↳ gabriel @6:05 Niether do most of mine- they either shrug or say I'm too far left or paranoid and to stop being so negative etc.
	6:07pm chresti: Google “workday” is becoming the payroll system for the city of Los Angeles , that we’re forced to use
	🤖 6:07pm herb.nyc: Yes! We should be made aware! But I can’t handle the truth!
	6:07pm Teknishun: Techtonic and Gin
	6:08pm gabriel: same, marci. same same same. flippin sux.
	6:09pm Dean: Lying sack of crap, Clapper.
	6:09pm gabriel: that's so messed up, chresti.
	🤖 6:09pm Bas NL: Hellos Mark and all!
	🤖 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Surveilees!
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: Hi chresti, ultra, DiL, newton, DjL, chris_itr, gabriel, DPB, Marci, herb, Teknishun, Dean, Bas, Webham! Appreciate all of you joining this evening.
	🤖 6:09pm DjLorraine: ↳ gabriel @6:05 It's frustrating bc they will wait until its too late. They are better at reacting then planning.
	6:10pm gabriel: my dad worked for the nsa. he raised me paranoid af.
	🤖 6:10pm newton: clap on, clap off, the clapper
	6:11pm Fredericks: ↳ DraculasPissBoy @6:05 Only for the ignorant, for the rest of u,s it is annoying at the least.
	🤖 6:11pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:13pm Dean: For a stark illustration of how information was once stored and organized versus the same c.2000, compare Fritz Machlup's 1962 book, The production and distribution of knowledge in the United States with Hal Varian & Peter Lyman's How much information?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi Tim!
	6:15pm mackeral: Hi all, I'm late. thinking now of Shoshana Zuboff and renewing my commitment to resume that fantastic book
	6:16pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: A bit late to the show. Hello Mark and everyone.
	6:17pm Dean: You know, surveillance was normalized for many of us when we were little kids. You know, Santa Claus. "He sees you when you're sleeping He knows when you're awake He knows if you've been bad or good So be good for goodness sake!"
	6:19pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Dean @6:17 "Elf on the shelf" has further normalized surveillance. Some of them now actually have cameras installed.
	🤖 6:19pm newton: I can't pee with zuckerberg staring at my junk
	6:20pm ultradamno: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:19 ...and dead relatives.
	🤖 6:20pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:19 Fellas, fellas, let’s not forget the thousands of years of an omniscient god of your choice.
	🤖 6:21pm MarciB: And the folks I know who are concerned about privacy mostly say "hey, at least we're not China!" as if that makes it all ok.
	6:21pm joe mulligan: I'm a heavy strava user, and make everything private.. it's been known that people will see your posts and go rob your house after seeing you have pricey bikes
	6:22pm joe_rosevear: Hi, all! I'm late.
	6:24pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák" x.com...
	6:25pm Dean: We might be willing to tolerate the exhaustive collection of our movements if we were able to access the data. "Where did I put my wallet?"
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:21 Ugh.
	6:27pm Dean: This was Glenn Greenwald's argument for the last couple decades, and it remains completely valid. It's not a risk of embarrassment. It's a risk of a bad actor having information that you want secured, because it affords access to finances, accounts, and such.
	6:28pm mackeral: the more data points, the more valuable the inferences
	6:28pm ultradamno: By the way, the new Orphan Black spinoff series appears to have moved from clones to 3D printed robot clones.
	6:29pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:09 😂
	🤖 6:29pm MarciB: ↳ Dean @6:27 This is exactly what I tell anyone who'll listen...but the response I usually get is "that's a rarity" or a shrug. and a "worry about that if it happens" etc
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ mackeral @6:28 ..and they'll never share the inferences with you. that's the real value that they're monetizing.
	6:30pm Dean: That's nuts, MarciB! Losing a credit card is not a rarity, and it's a huge inconvenience when it happens.
	6:31pm Dean: And then there are the state actions Tau is talking about.
	6:31pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:28 ...maybe animated simulacrums more than robot.
	6:32pm DraculasPissBoy: Better turn Wi-Fi off my bong.
	6:32pm gabriel: keep that bong analog!
	6:32pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ gabriel @6:32 😂
	6:33pm joe_rosevear: Oops. I will check my apps. I normally turn off the option to reveal my location. OK, I'm good. Two apps can use my location, but only while in use.
	6:33pm yippie: if a cop makes the dog bark, you lose your fourth amendment rights also
	6:34pm gabriel: my friend was talking to his wife about me the other day and his phone fed him my imdb info courtesy of Meta AI
	🤖 6:35pm MarciB: I read a blog post about a filmmaker who learned her bf was going to propose to her b/c diamond rings and wedding ads started appearing in her IG feed.
	6:36pm DraculasPissBoy: Siri has entered the chat
	6:39pm Dean: Just another argument in favor of rotating your tires...with your neighbors'.
	6:39pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ Dean @6:39 Brilliant
	6:40pm paddy in matawan: ↳ Dean @6:39 Haha Community defeats the robots. Next on Geraldo!
	6:40pm dale: hey now. batteries die in those. you don't have to have the sensors replaced when you get new tires. you may have a low pressure light on your dash but if you check your air pressure with a guage you'll be fine. don't think you can fail an inspection if the tire light is on.
	6:41pm weezycarneezy: So which spy is my car insurance most likely using?
	🤖 6:41pm tim: A-ha! I was just going to ask how it TPMS identified specific cars.
	🤖 6:41pm MarciB: And here I thought it was a good thing in about our 2013 Mini ... letting us know to put air into the tires...well at least we have a CD player on our dash, not a touch screen.
	6:41pm Fredericks: Even my 1999 Ford van is vulnerable? I don't think so. I remember an early electric car being hijacked through the tires.
	6:42pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Fredericks @6:41 Are your tires from 1999?
	6:42pm gabriel: whaaaa that is fecked up!!!
	6:42pm dale: ↳ tim @6:41 the sensors have to be calibrated to the car they are installed on. i guess it could broadcast the body control module info.
	6:43pm listener 126464: TPMS light has been on in my 2011 civic since I acquired it 5 yrs. ago.
	6:43pm DraculasPissBoy: I upload nudes via TPMS
	6:44pm dale: ↳ listener 126464 @6:43 fight the power!
	6:44pm P-90: Our old friend Kashmir Hill
	🤖 6:45pm tim: Steal yr face!
	6:47pm ultradamno: When robots make their own sexbots mastodon.social...
	6:47pm mackeral: an article on the wifi/bluetooth stuff Byron talked about: www.notus.org...
	6:47pm gabriel: hey siri, when's the apocalypse?
	6:47pm traven: ↳ DraculasPissBoy @6:43 Did they appear pneumatic?
	🤖 6:49pm tim: ↳ dale @6:42 Got it. So I’m guessing that tires bought and installed at TireTown, the TPMS isn’t linked to the car. But it can be used to match the tires to the car through surveillance.
	6:49pm ?: ↳ dale @6:40 quick fix which often works on many vehicles when the tire light is on. Over fill the tires by 3-4 lbs. and drive it. It will often reset to off.
	🤖 6:49pm herb.nyc: I was just telling my neice’s husband of the tire pressure thing. And I said “this doesn’t sound right, but…”. But it’s right! The show of Dave Mandl, get info at Fandango
	🤖 6:49pm MarciB: ↳ @6:49 ohh thank you!
	6:50pm DraculasPissBoy: ↳ traven @6:47 Finally dropped the baby fat
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1924: Just tuning in and gettin off work
	6:50pm dale: ↳ @6:49 cool. i would just put a piece of tape over the light.
	6:50pm Steve Del Sol: The sensor is mounted to the rim, the tire remains just a tire.
	🤖 6:50pm PaulRobeson1924: Going to get in the shower
	6:50pm ?: ↳ dale @6:50 That was my second choice :0
	6:51pm DraculasPissBoy: Those sniffers are looking for the China white hookup
	🤖 6:51pm tim: ↳ @6:49 What happens when you refill at proper PSI?
	6:52pm Jeff Moore: Serendipitous Surveillance: I happened past the radio station just as our host was arriving, and he graciously allowed me to grab a couple of snaps since the light was so great today. www.flickr.com... www.flickr.com...
	6:52pm Eugene R: TPMS is even worse, since its additional effect is to make it impossible for independent mechanics to fix a flat, since the TPMS system will not reset without a specific computer code being issued.
	6:52pm Sam: I’m convinced this is the REAL reason they legalized weed. So the millions of users would stop being paranoid about surveillance and start to accept it.
	6:52pm dale: ↳ @6:50 i think a lot of tire shops will only mount new tires with new sensors because of liability issues if you have a blowout and have a crack up.
	🤖 6:52pm PaulRobeson1924: Smart shower* You bathed 39 minutes slower this week than last week. You may need a doctor- here is a list of Amazon approved doctors and try Thorazine?
	6:53pm gabriel: im with you, sam. and to sell doritos.
	6:53pm ?: ↳ tim @6:51 from a lower pressure? or do you mean after you overfill? Mine are simple bluetooth devices that pair with the cars ecm. Battery in device on the rime goes dead it can be replaced but tire shops would rather charge you for a whole new transmitter & valve stem assy.
	6:54pm Steve Del Sol: ↳ Eugene R @6:52 That is not true fellas.....
	6:55pm DraculasPissBoy: My damn detachable penis. Gotta turn off it’s Bluetooth setting
	🤖 6:55pm MarciB: and my surveillance phone is listening to Mark talk about our current surveillance state. Sigh.
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1924: Edward Snowden
	🤖 6:56pm PaulRobeson1924: Not only can we but try and stop us
	6:56pm dale: tpms gave my wife a warning a couple times, one was a screw in the tire. glad she paid attention and called me, came with an inflator and got her home so i could remove the wheel and get the tire plugged.
	🤖 6:56pm tim: Here’s another way to work around vehicular surveillance. If you are able to, walk, bike, skateboard, or take public transit to get where you’re going.
	6:56pm ?: ↳ Steve Del Sol @6:54 my hondas, nor my hyundais need a code to reset. Dealership had a friends BMW convinced she needed to bring it in for a "reset" at $150 a pop. I told her try the overfilling method..no more problems
	6:57pm DraculasPissBoy: 🔥
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: The Television is smart. The shower is smart. The can is smart. I flush twice and it recommends a brain doctor?
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Byron!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm herb.nyc: Yes, the truth. Thx for telling us, and thx to Byron Tau.
	6:57pm DraculasPissBoy: Grazie Mark
	6:57pm ?: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:57 Sounds confused over which end is up :)
	6:57pm bleubombersune: Thanks Mark
	6:57pm Sam: And excommunicate X!
	6:58pm gabriel: thanks mark! not sure i feel any better tho... let me check. nope, definitely worse.
	6:58pm Steve Del Sol: Its kindg we are being surveilled of like sayin' by our fuel gauge....
	6:58pm P-90: Thanks Mark
	6:59pm Fredericks: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:42 No.
	6:59pm joe_rosevear: Well, it doesn't sound good!
	6:59pm ?: 90.1FM has come back to life..Yea!!!!
	🤖 6:59pm tim: Thanks Mark and Byron for the thoughtful discussion.
	7:00pm joe_rosevear: But thanks for the bad news!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Thank you for the freedom of expression!
	7:00pm Coach32sm: Oh boy my life gets complicated now, but I like it, yes I do!!!!
	7:11pm Fredericks: ↳ Jeff Moore @6:52 Mark looks exactly the same in both pictures.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from June 24, 2024

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