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This is where all of culture and all of time are collapsed into one seductive portal and viewed through the panoramic lens of the exotic. Come and embark on an armchair-travel virtual-voyage to the heart of timeless darkness and beyond; embrace the numinous monolith of the exotic immensity. Let us find that place where hybridization meets its destiny as pure fantasy. Let us become observers observing those others who are ourselves. You wear your mask and I'll wear mine.

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Favoriting October 24, 2024: Bird Friends / Two Fires / More Wackie's

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
  Intro            
Baldruin  Durchsichtiger Freund   Favoriting Relikte aus der Zukunft  Buh  2023    0:01:48 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Lumerians  Untitled 1   Favoriting Transmissions from Telos Vol. IV  Permanent Records  2012    0:02:59 (MP3 | Pop-up)
MUMIA  Ave Do Deserto   Favoriting MUMIA  Lugar Alto  2020  rec. 1988 in São Paulo, Brazil  0:08:52 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Sunburned Hand of the Man  Parakeet Beat   Favoriting Fire Escape  Smalltown Supersound  2007    0:12:27 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Broadcast  Microtronics 03   Favoriting Microtronics Volume 01: Stereo Recorded Music For Links And Bridges  Warp Records  2003    0:17:06 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Bernard Parmegiani  Temoignages   Favoriting Mémoire Magnétique, Vol​ 2. (Compilation De Bandes Magnétiques Inédites (1966-1993))  Transversales Disques  2021  1972  0:18:40 (MP3 | Pop-up)
John Dwyer, Ryan Sawyer, Greg Coates, Wilder Zoby & Andres Renteria ‎  Hypogeum   Favoriting Gong Splat  Castle Face  2021    0:19:53 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Patrick Cowley  He's Like You   Favoriting School Daze  Dark Entries  2013  1973-1981  0:22:24 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Sun Araw  Bambo   Favoriting Lifetime  Sun Ark Records  2024    0:25:12 (MP3 | Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 
Tropical Forest – Number Six Chops Down the Tree  
 
 
 
 
0:29:03 (MP3 | Pop-up)
John Klemmer  Children of the Earth Flames   Favoriting Blowin' Gold  Cadet Concept  1969    0:37:01 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Miles Davis  Lonely Fire   Favoriting The Complete Bitches Brew Sessions  Columbia  1998  rec. 1970; also appears on Big Fun, 1974  0:44:11 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Wolfgang Dauner  Brazing the High Sky Full   Favoriting Output  ECM Records  1970    1:04:02 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Association P.C.  Round A'bout Nine   Favoriting Earwax  Munich Records  1970    1:08:13 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Larry Coryell  Entardecendo en Saudade   Favoriting At The Village Gate  Vanguard  1971    1:14:49 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Arnie Lawrence  The Meeting Of Two Worlds   Favoriting Look Toward A Dream  Project 3 Records  1968    1:22:42 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Annette & Paul Bley  Dual Unity   Favoriting Dual Unity  Freedom  1972    1:29:50 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Joe Henderson  Tress-Cun-Deo-La   Favoriting Multiple  Milestone  1973    1:32:46 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Yusef Lateef  This Old Building   Favoriting Hush 'N' Thunder  Atlantic  1973    1:43:16 (MP3 | Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 
Underway  
 
 
 
 
1:45:34 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Azul  Rockfort Rock   Favoriting Rockfort Rock / Klu Bly Klan 12"  Wackie's  1980    1:57:37 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Stranger Cole and Glady  My Application   Favoriting My Application / Application Dub 7"  Aires  1975  1st rel. 1971 on the Stranger Soul Cole label  2:03:45 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Ras Clifton  Queen of the Universe   Favoriting Queen of the Universe / Look Over Yonder 12"  Wackie's  1982    2:06:04 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Bullwackies All Stars  Wackie Rock Tune   Favoriting African Roots Act 1  Wackie's  1980    2:13:29 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Johnny Osbourne, Bullwackies All Stars  Jah Jah Children   Favoriting Jah Jah Children 7"  Aires  1974    2:16:42 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Stranger Cole / Leroy Heptones  The Time is Now / Revolution   Favoriting The Time is Now/Revolution / Take Time 12"  Wackie's  1978    2:19:26 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Joe Auxumite  Troubled Land   Favoriting Black World Dub  Hardwax Records  1979    2:25:14 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Junior Delahaye  Working Hard For The Rent Man   Favoriting Working Hard For The Rent Man / Mystic Revelation 12"  Wackie's  1983    2:29:22 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Bullwackies All Stars  Black Festivity   Favoriting Creation Dub  City Line Records  1977    2:33:30 (MP3 | Pop-up)
John Clarke  Tell Me The Truth   Favoriting Visions of John Clarke  Wackie's  1979    2:36:12 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Horace Andy  Serious Thing   Favoriting Wackie's Selective Showcase Volume One  Wackie's  1980    2:39:03 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Mickey Jarrett  Klu Bly Klan   Favoriting Rockfort Rock / Klu Bly Klan 12"  Wackie's  1980    2:44:57 (MP3 | Pop-up)
Baba Leslie, Bullwackies All Stars  217th and Bronxwood   Favoriting New Sensation / 217th and Bronxwood 7"  Aires  1975    2:50:17 (MP3 | Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 
Bells of My Soul  
 
 
 
 
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Listener comments!

Avatar 6:52pm
Flash Strap:

Hello Explorers!
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chresti:

Hi Flash and explorers!
Making coffee...
  7:00pm
Aitch:

Hey Flash and crew.
Avatar 7:01pm
Flash Strap:

Hi Chresti!
  7:01pm
Kat in the chat:

Howdy do. Trying to finish something incredibly tedious at work.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
Yvang:

Hi Flash and strappers!
  7:02pm
Kat in the chat:

How you feeling, Aitch?
  7:03pm
Aitch:

Phone listening so not much chatting.
Day 17 in hospital so need this to avoid despair
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:03pm
tom tom the pipers son:

gee wolfgang dauner has some strange album art....hello flash strap and all
Avatar 7:04pm
Kevin the Painter:

Hi DJ FS et al! First time Explorer...
  7:04pm
Aitch:

8th day since new marrow Kat, new yet to strike so pretty ill
Avatar 7:04pm
Flash Strap:

Hey Aitch! Hi Kat! maybe I can help
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flannery:

bird friends you say
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ chresti @7:00
luv a three or four o'clock coffee....
Avatar 7:05pm
Flash Strap:

Hi Yvang! Hi Tom Tom! Hello and welcome aboard Kevin!
Avatar 7:05pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:03
truly he does
  7:05pm
Kat in the chat:

I’d say this show is a fine antidote to despair
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
StringOFperils:

Good evening, Flash! Hey, all! We are with you, Aitch!
Avatar 7:06pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Aitch @7:03
ah Aitch that absolutely sucks, that's so long. maybe i can transport you to a different room for a little while
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
tom tom the pipers son:

digging these first two...
Avatar 7:06pm
Flash Strap:

Hey Flannery! god i love birds
  7:07pm
Quinn02:

Just want to say I loved last week's Studio One show, and especially that "polka dots" track.
Avatar 7:07pm
Flash Strap:

SoP! great to see ya
  7:07pm
Aitch:

Me too Evan, glad to swap rooms for a few hours
Avatar 7:07pm
Flash Strap:

Hi Quinn2! so glad to hear it! that track is one of my favorites as well, what a sweet little marvel
Avatar 7:09pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Ave Do Deserto" by "MUMIA"
VERY interesting archival release
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:10pm
Manta:

hello!!
  7:10pm
Quinn02:

↳ Flash Strap @7:07
oh, and Willie Lindo from a few weeks ago. I've been listening to that album a bunch, first heard here.
Avatar 7:10pm
Flash Strap:

Hey there Manta!
Avatar 7:11pm
Kevin the Painter:

Always up for a good trip!!🤘😁🔥
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:11pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:07
reminds me...met a jamaican woman who grew up in bronx (probably 1990's) but did not know about bullwackies
  7:11pm
Kat in the chat:

Fantastic sounds
Avatar 7:12pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Quinn02 @7:10
that record has such a perfect cover, i think about it all the time
Avatar 7:15pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:11
interesting - excited to double dip back into wackies later
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Parakeet Beat" by "Sunburned Hand of the Man"
sunburned hand...., channeling old hippie vibes...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:15
looking forward to it...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
Alex from Media:

Hey Flash, Explorers!
Avatar 7:17pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:15
so true
Avatar 7:18pm
Flash Strap:

hello hello Alex!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:17
kind of angus maclise..but if maclise was old paris theis would be hausmannian paris...cleaned up...i liked it
Avatar 7:22pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:20
Sunburned is all over the place but a great group truly possessed of the spirit
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:22pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Hypogeum" by "John Dwyer, Ryan Sawyer, Greg Coate...
not un/'can'/ny...but 'can'/ny
Avatar 7:23pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:22
haha yes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:22
**Canned laughter...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:25pm
chresti:

↳ Aitch @7:03
Sending you some healing rays boosted with cannabis and coffee, Aitch
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @7:25
i'll take what i can get...
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
chresti:

↳ chresti @7:25
Or maybe not the coffee
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:29pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Bambo" by "Sun Araw"
interesting.... trip hop mixed in....
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:29pm
chresti:

Anyone ever try listening to canned laughter all day?
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:32pm
tom tom the pipers son:

wow gary indiana died...sad
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:33pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ chresti @7:29
there was the shemp meditation tape...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:34pm
Little Danny:

hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:35pm
Doug Schulkind:

Hello hello!
  7:35pm
Aitch:

Really hitting the spot Evan
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:35pm
StringOFperils:

↳ chresti @7:29
Maybe that's what's missing in my life.
Avatar 7:38pm
Flash Strap:

Hi Little Danny! Hi Big Doug!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Children of the Earth Flames" by "John Klemmer"
doin' a soft machine thang
Avatar 7:38pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Aitch @7:35
oh my god i love to hear it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
Little Danny:

↳ chresti @7:29
i love canned laughter
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:39pm
chresti:

A laughing sound bath
Avatar 7:39pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Little Danny @7:38
the other day i was just hangin' out listening to that Canary records Okeh Laughing Record comp, laffin' to myself
Avatar 7:40pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:38
def hear that in the sax
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:40pm
tom tom the pipers son:

cable news w/ a laughtrack ...an idea whose time has come
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:40pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:40
yes
Avatar 7:41pm
Flash Strap:

i ought to brush up on Klemmer's catalog, the only other one i really know is Waterfalls
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:42pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:40
I might miss the canned seriousness after a while.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:42pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:41
he english or german?
Avatar 7:42pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:42
a Chicago fella
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @7:42
very good point...
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:42
thx
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Little Danny:

↳ Flash Strap @7:39
those work on me!
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Alex from Media:

↳ StringOFperils @7:42
*applause track*
Avatar 7:48pm
Flash Strap:

not sure if there's any real substantive difference between the version that originally appeared on Big Fun and the one we're hearing from the Complete BB Sessions, i think it's a slightly different mix. basically the same but i think this one sounds better than my copy of Big Fun
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm
Little Danny:

god this sounds good
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm
StringOFperils:

Sounds fantastic out here!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:51pm
StringOFperils:

Just had the sinking realization that I'm darning a sock in the night when there's nobody here...oh well.....Miles....
Avatar 7:51pm
Flash Strap:

Airto Moreira does so much on these sessions, he just populates these landscapes
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:51pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @7:51
percussion?
Avatar 7:53pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:51
yeah all the little rattles and wobbles
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:54pm
tom tom the pipers son:

👍🏻
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
WR:

↳ Song: "Lonely Fire" by "Miles Davis"
was away from the playlist when this track started and since I had not seen Miles Davis on your playlist pic i was so curious, who is pulling off a Miles / Bitches Brew sound. Whelp.
Avatar 7:55pm
Flash Strap:

there's a great segment at the very end of that Bitches Brew documentary where Airto imitates the sound of the whole band with this armada of percussion instruments & his mouth, highly recommended viewing, you'll never not visualize him while hearing him afterwards
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
coelacanth∅:

greetings Evan, explorers
Avatar 7:56pm
Flash Strap:

↳ WR @7:55
haha yep!
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Flash Strap:

also Hi WR!
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tom tom the pipers son:

miles davis' spare playing like forged steel at this point
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Flash Strap:

Hi Coelacanth!
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WR:

↳ Flash Strap @7:55
Bitches Brew doc, this I gotta find. On the Flora / Airto compilation that was released a year or so ago, the booklet notes has plenty I never knew about Airto's working with Miles.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:57
kind of blue has spare playing but i think it would sound less condensed if you were to listen side by side
Avatar 8:00pm
Flash Strap:

Doc's good but you can see the segment on youtube i believe - it's worth a look on it's own imo (it's the only part i can remember & i think about it all the time, watch it about once a year)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:57
All that quiet space that got worked out on Filles de Kilimanjaro and In a Quiet Way becomes crystalline by this point: the huge power of NOT playing
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:03pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @8:00
yes...and i think something reciprocal happened to his playing...a density
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Flash Strap:

Kind of Blue it's so spare but it's also in the spotlight, whereas here it almost feels like armature, i sometimes forget to actually *listen* to Miles here
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:04pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:03
right...armature an interesting idea for it
Avatar 8:05pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Brazing the High Sky Full" by "Wolfgang Dauner"
interesting Dauner LP - just him, Eberhard Weber and Fred Braceful
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:03
Yeah, I hear that too...greater maturity or conviction?
Avatar 8:06pm
Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:00
so true, well said
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:06pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @8:05
yes and i guess focus too
Avatar 8:08pm
Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:05
add to this an ever-increasing interest in conducting with special attention to the rhythm rather than melody - he's doing so much, he's just playing less
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
Alex from Media:

So not being a jazz guy (mainly due to disliking the incompleteness of the ideas that are recorded as improvisations) but coming to an appreciation of Miles Davis (here). What I like the most about his music is that it doesn't sound improvised, even when it is. It all comes out as a full composition beginning to end.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:10pm
tom tom the pipers son:

that dauner had some interestingly spazzy drums
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:11pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Flash Strap @8:08
True. Yeah. The abandonment of melody IS pretty interesting. You start to listen to pulses of sound, and their timbres and....space? Makes me think of a relationship to Monk, or where he seemed to be going. A search for the elements.
Avatar 8:12pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:10
i love Braceful's drumming, very interesting guy. plays on a couple Embryo LPs with great power, awesome work with Mal Waldron as well (sometimes also with Embryo). also member of Exmagma
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:12pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @8:11
yes, with monk you think of space(s)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:13pm
Alex from Media:

I see we're well past Miles. Oh well.
Avatar 8:13pm
Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:11
very well said, i like this a lot
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:14pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:12
Sometimes I have an image of him that's like Nipper the RCA dog, with his head cocked to one side, listening. Listening stuff you can't hear yet.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:14pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:12
oh thanks...thought the drumming was a glint of hip hop (in the songs eye)
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:15pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @8:14
haha...v funny
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Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:14
absolutely
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:16pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
second track heard off this...must be an amazing album
Avatar 8:17pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
thanks to Tom Tom tipping me to this record, via the King Sam Segal who played something from it on his show recently. weird i'd never heard it before, so glad to be hearing it now
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:17pm
StringOFperils:

Oh man, this again. I NEEDS ta get this Larry Coryell album. It's awesome!
  8:17pm
Carmichael:

Heya Flash. Marty played some Coryell last Saturday, pretty cool.
  8:18pm
Aitch:

This is fab
Avatar 8:18pm
Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:17
he goes so heavy! the first track (which is what sam played) is so Band of Gypsies and so good
Avatar 8:18pm
Flash Strap:

hey Carm! i just adore Coryell, man
  8:19pm
Carmichael:

Or maybe it was Sam indeed. Got my Coryells mixed up. The last one was live though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:19pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Flash Strap @8:18
Yes, like Machine Gun. It's amazing.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:19pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
madison square garden scale at a small club
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:20pm
tom tom the pipers son:

too effin much
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Flash Strap:

gonna hear a little more Coryell in the next track as well - once i get him out it's hard to put him away
Avatar 8:22pm
Flash Strap:

god he's rippin
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:22pm
7uring7est:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
Damn this is great
Avatar 8:22pm
Flash Strap:

hey there 7uring!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:24pm
tom tom the pipers son:

@ coryell...slightly arabic/african riff in this....can sort of relate it to mdou moctar other sahel players
Avatar 8:24pm
Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "The Meeting Of Two Worlds" by "Arnie Lawrence"
w/ Coryell, Richard Davis, Roy Haynes, produced by Enoch Light... all-time great LP
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:24
i can dig that
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
THAT was what 1971 really sounded like.

Warmed my ancient bones.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:25pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:25
meaning last track of course
Avatar 8:26pm
Flash Strap:

Hey Franco!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:26pm
Franco Twinkie:

FLASH!
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:27pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Franco Twinkie @8:25
in some sense it was like lighting a trash fire to the 60's
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:28pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:27
It really was! That's when I jumped in feet first.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:29pm
StringOFperils:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:27
The sound of flaming Sikorsky choppers meeting the jungle floor
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:30pm
7uring7est:

↳ Song: "Entardecendo en Saudade" by "Larry Coryell"
I've never heard of this guy till now. It always amazes me how much you can miss
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:30pm
spodiodi:

greetings, Flash and all!

been listening since Miles. sounding great
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:31pm
StringOFperils:

↳ 7uring7est @8:30
Very prominent jazz guitarist. None of what I have by him sounds remotely like that stuff.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:31pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ StringOFperils @8:29
i love the sound of flaming sikorsky helicopter in the jungle/morning
Avatar 8:32pm
Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @8:31
yeah he's so versatile. def check out his Fairyland record for more shredding
Avatar 8:32pm
Flash Strap:

Hey Spodi! love to hear it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:32pm
StringOFperils:

**noted! Thanks
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:32pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:31
jungle floor
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:33pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:32
also on larry young recs....lawrence of newark for one
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:34pm
7uring7est:

↳ StringOFperils @8:31
When the show over I'll check more out, love some Jazz guitar
Avatar 8:35pm
Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:33
he's not on that one actually, guitar there is James Blood Ulmer
Avatar 8:35pm
Flash Strap:

he's on a crazy Wolfgang Dauner LP, Et Cetera's Knirsch. his first record with Chico Hamilton is one of my most-listened-to LPs
  8:36pm
Carmichael:

Enoch Light, there’s a name from way back. The Light Brigade!
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Flash Strap:

↳ Carmichael @8:36
adore the Maestro Enoch
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:35
ah...and i thought i looked that up rtecently
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Tress-Cun-Deo-La" by "Joe Henderson"
Larry Willis, Jack DeJohnette, Dave Holland. what a record this is
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:37
i could be wrong, that was top of the dome
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:38
no you are right
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:39
i love that record so much
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Flash Strap:

↳ Flash Strap @8:40
and so often
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tom tom the pipers son:

flash...have you listened to celebration1, a recently released wayne shorter compendium...heard something off of it that was beyond the impression i had of shorter...this joe henderson prompts the comment
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:43
oh i have to hear that then - have you heard his Moto Groso Feio record? that's pretty out
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @8:44
no i haven't... i've heard little of his 70's work... heard the shorter on the laughing clock
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StringOFperils:

Killer set! Magic all the way!
  8:58pm
Little Danny:

Loving this!
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Rockfort Rock" by "Azul"
really cool aqueous guitar snaking around the flute here
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WR:

↳ Song: "Rockfort Rock" by "Azul"
the line that the flutes was playing for the first two "verses" was same as a Burning Spear song.
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Flash Strap:

↳ Little Danny @8:58
an old favorite! i love it
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Flash Strap:

↳ WR @8:59
oh, which one? i'd like to investigate
  9:00pm
samfiman:

peace flash, peace everyone, lovely set thus far, and now lovelier still! this is little david but i'm dropping my ras michael-inspired moniker and pioneering a new chat name. Let the music play!!!
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WR:

↳ Flash Strap @9:00
gonna track it down, working now so might message you later about it.
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Flash Strap:

↳ WR @9:01
if it's not too much trouble i would love that
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Flash Strap:

↳ samfiman @9:00
hey samfiman fka little david!
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coelacanth∅:

"jordan river" from the marcus garvey album
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:02
a-ha! interesting
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coelacanth∅:

↳ WR @8:59
(good ear,WR!)
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WR:

↳ Flash Strap @9:01
Ha, I won't be able to sleep tonight until I figure it out.
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WR:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:02
Thanks, that makes sense coelacanth∅, one of the Burning Spear albums I listened to a lot back in the day.
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "My Application" by "Stranger Cole and Glady"
not an actual Wackies production, but such a beautiful song. rereleased on Wackie's Aires label
  9:07pm
samfiman:

this week i picked up the dr. alimantado LP "In The Mix Part 3", and this is what the doc says about dub on the back of the jacket, thought you would enjoy:
  9:07pm
samfiman:

Other music can now copy many Reggae patterns, but Dub is a bit more difficult for them because if they copy Dub they would now be playing Reggae. Dub is an art form in itself. Dub is a musical with just little or no vocal at all, sequenced to create a mystical atmosphere with the foundation being the drum and bass and all other instruments and vocals like puffs of cool breeze, which puts this music in a class of its own. Just to mention a few of the people who have established themselves in this specialist area, they are: Scientist, King Tubby’s, Joe Gibbs, Lee (Scratch, Upsetters) Perry, Bunny Lee, Mad Professor, Prince Jammies and myself among others. I am very please to now present to you following Part 1 and 2, here is “In The Mix Part 3” which I hope will give to all mountains of pleasure and entertainment.
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Queen of the Universe" by "Ras Clifton"
not quite as exquisite as the b-side, which we heard 2 weeks ago (and was for me a major highlight) it's still a great side and one of Clifton's only releases
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Flash Strap:

↳ samfiman @9:07
oh that's wonderful. what a spot-on description
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Flash Strap:

"whoa nelly"
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Flash Strap:

↳ samfiman @9:07
how is In The Mix Part 3? don't think i've heard it
  9:12pm
samfiman:

it's really awesome, it's at Ariwa with Mad Professor and some of the crew I see on his Dub Me Crazy series. been so happy listening!
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Flash Strap:

↳ samfiman @9:12
cool, i gotta check it out
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tom tom the pipers son:

flash...ok to post a new NYT poem?
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northguineahills:

flasherino!
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:16
fire away
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Flash Strap:

NGH! hey bud!
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tom tom the pipers son:

Not NYT Junk Poetry

A Feathered Murder
Mystery at 10,000 Feet
Shows How to Recreate
the Biggest Beauty Trends
at Home
With Call Out to a
Religious Comeback
That Ignites Cultural Firestorm
With Risks Unique to Women
in a Stark New Ballet
Which Takes Over the Stage
About How Cheerleading
Became So Acrobatic, Dangerous
and Popular in Ancient Cities
Unearthed in Mountains
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coelacanth∅:

i've wondered about something... as artists such as mad professor and Augustus Pablo etc create music from the ground, up (not breaking down and manipulating existing recordings, as is Lee Perry's or Tubby's usual m.o., for example) - it is not technically "dub music" (*by definition*) so - is there an alternate name for it?
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:19
i like this one
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tom tom the pipers son:

kind of a thread of anti abortion-ism with beauty tips and cheerleading

thx flashstrap
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:20
well Perry did a lot of dubbing existing recordings but he also recorded tons of original stuff just to dub it - i think there's not so much of a divide there actually. Tubby produced a lot of the stuff he dubbed as well, though with him it's a bit more straightforward
  9:23pm
Carmichael:

Pew! Pew!
  9:24pm
Little Danny:

Incredible
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chresti:

↳ Song: "The Time is Now / Revolution" by "Stranger Cole /...
🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Flash Strap:

↳ Flash Strap @9:22
also a lot of - tho hardly all - dub LPs were recorded ground up to be dubbed. always been a spectrum, which is to be expected when you have all these guys involved at so many aspects of so many productions
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Flash Strap @9:22
yes,of course. i wouldn't want to try to divide it. aside from being unnecessary it'd be impossible!
...but i thought maybe there's a broader term floating around that just hasn't caught
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "The Time is Now / Revolution" by "Stranger Cole /...
the vocals rode the beat in a kind of rock steady way
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:25
there are definitely a lot of records that i think of as a bit more instrumental albums with dub effects - you get a lot of that with Wackies dub LPs actually. there is a different sensibility that sometimes emerges, but i don't know if there's a term
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northguineahills:

↳ Flash Strap @9:22
well, a demon inhabited the black ark, so, arson ensued.... but he kept a dubbin'...
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coelacanth∅:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:25
(since "dub" stems from "double", which is how it started; and so much of this now is not "alternate" versions)
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WR:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:02
and, yes, confirmed, that is the Burning Spear song with that phrase / verse. Something like "Jah will never run away" that the flute periodically played in that track. Impressive you ID'd it so quickly.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Flash Strap @9:27
right on.... just curious.
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:27
all art forms must outgrow their origins sooner or later, which often messes with the terminology
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Flash Strap:

↳ WR @9:28
i gotta side-by-side that one, very cool ID'ing guys
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:28
you have me curious too now
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StringOFperils:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:20
It's still, strictly, dubbing. The Upsettah and his followers were ahead of the curve when it came to multi-tracking in a studio. But strictly speaking, it's just stacking recordings on top of each other, whether they're newly minted or not. At first, the dropped-out or separate tracks were pressed to vinyl slabs, and then rushed out onto the streets by guys operating 'sound systems' outside, so they could 'toast' over top of them...a precusor to hip-hop. But, on their own those dub-plates proved to be both fascinating and infinitely reusable to be combined any way that worked, on the fly. That's my historical take on the term 'dub' anyway. It all became over-dubbing in the lexicon of sound studios.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ WR @9:28
it sounded familiar to me too but just floated past me! but as soon as you said something i knew it was that album, which was also huge for me. (well, "garvey's ghost" actually)
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Working Hard For The Rent Man" by "Junior Delahaye"
an interesting one, this. great lyric
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Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @9:30
this checks out to me
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Working Hard For The Rent Man" by "Junior Delahaye"
always kind of wondered if rolling stones song luxury was a reggae tune....lyrics similar content to this
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Doug Schulkind:

Good God, that Wackies sound. So instantly recognizable. So thrilling.
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:33
i can't recall that one actually but they were super into reggae in the mid-70s, Keith lived in Jamaica for a while I think. not an expert on this Stones period however
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coelacanth∅:

↳ StringOFperils @9:30
just so; but it was originally invented live - in a dance hall (or was it a record shop?) and it was just deleting some tracks in the multitrack recording in order to extend the riddim
...right?

(damn...i've read about this but i've got life-on-the-brain)
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Flash Strap:

↳ Doug Schulkind @9:35
hell yeah Doug!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:33
actually song luxury, a marxian self critique, give a close reading
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coelacanth∅:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:35
(originally called "versions")
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:35
cool
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @9:35
me neither...but i like the song fro that era...i'll find lyrics
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Tell Me The Truth" by "John Clarke"
this is not *Johnny* Clarke by the way. sort of a Jacob Miller aspect to his delivery here, without the trademark flourishes
  9:38pm
Kat in the chat:

I didn’t think he was going to say “big car” that first time
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StringOFperils:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:35
Actually, on the streets. It's hot. Big piles of reconstituted radio equipment and hand-built speaker cabs. And a lot of Red Stripe and collie weed.
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Flash Strap:

↳ Kat in the chat @9:38
hahaha, well it's a deceptively complex lyric
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tom tom the pipers son:

I want a real fine car, fly Miami too
All the rum, I want to drink it, all the whiskey too
My woman need a new dress, my daughter got to go to school
I'm working so hard, I'm working for the company
I'm working so hard to keep you in the luxury
You can't call me lazy on a seven day a week
Make a million for the Texans, twenty dollar me
Yes, I want a gold ring, riding in a limousine
I'm working so hard, I'm working for the company
I'm working so hard to keep you in the luxury
Now listen, I'm a proud man, not a beggar walking on the street
I'm working so hard, to keep you from the poverty
I'm working so hard to keep you in the luxury, oh yeah
(I'm working so hard, I'm working so hard)
Harder, harder, working, working, working
I think it's such a strange thing, giving me concern
Half the world it got nothing the other half got money to burn
My woman need a new dress, my daughter got to go to school
I'm working so hard, I'm working for the company, oh, yeah
I'm working so hard, oh, yeah
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StringOFperils:

↳ StringOFperils @9:38
True record shops too. But they're on the street too back then. A bit of Africa.
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:39
oh right, man i hardly ever listened to that record. but i know that's a big reggae-influence LP for them. i should give it a spin
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Flash Strap:

↳ Song: "Serious Thing" by "Horace Andy"
Horace in his Wackie's period was just magical
  9:42pm
chresti:

Tell Me The Truth by John Clarke (Visions of John Clarke)

Big house IS awfully nice..
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Flash Strap:

his voice is just so beautiful with all those trails coming off of it
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StringOFperils:

Economically, sound systems are kind of socialist I guess. Nobody had much money, and all that junk was collated together so there could be street parties. In a tenement yard, as they said.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ StringOFperils @9:38
that's the image i have! but i don't remember the whole story. maybe read it on "catch a fire"...which, never mind being so poorly written/ put together, creates powerful, lasting imagery; and is not so much about Bob Marley, but about life in jamaica then.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Flash Strap @9:41
that's the only song i listen to, but it's self awareness surprises me, or i may be reading too much into it
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coelacanth∅:

↳ StringOFperils @9:41
right the shops stuck the speakers outside to attract customers
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Flash Strap:

↳ StringOFperils @9:43
they were a communal response to the JA music industry at the time completely shutting them out, due to racialized class prejudice. on the other hand they were brutally competitive but that's another kettle of fish i suppose. truly an admirable musical-cultural phenomenon
  9:46pm
samfiman:

↳ Song: "Klu Bly Klan" by "Mickey Jarrett"
nice! kinda an early dillinger sound no?
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Flash Strap:

↳ samfiman @9:46
i def hear that
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Song: "Klu Bly Klan" by "Mickey Jarrett"
and here's that jordan river flute again!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Klu Bly Klan" by "Mickey Jarrett"
luv these densely accented vocals
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StringOFperils:

↳ Flash Strap @9:44
That sounds about right too. Again, close parallels to rap. Born out of side-lined subcultures, working with almost nothing (doo-wop also comes to mind), and taking the reigns themselves. An aesthetic defines itself because its so compartmentalized away from a white, controlling world.
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Flash Strap:

↳ coelacanth∅ @9:47
all this is making me think that in fact Burning Spear was quoting Rockfort Rock
  9:50pm
samfiman:

↳ StringOFperils @9:48
and similar in that they both came about as country-wide efforts to establish large standing prison populations were being perfected by the courts...
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tom tom the pipers son:

what is this its gorgeous
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "217th and Bronxwood" by "Baba Leslie, Bullwackies...
groovy
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Flash Strap:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:51
yeah i love this one
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StringOFperils:

↳ samfiman @9:50
Sigh. Yeah. "Do you remember the days of slavery?" Uh, yeah. I think they were like an hour ago. Working for the clampdown.
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WR:

The Burning Spear album was released in 1975
en.wikipedia.org...
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Flash Strap @9:50
really! marcus garvey was 1975. when was rockfort rock's earliest appearance? i wasn't familiar with it before this evening
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Little Danny:

massive show today evan as ever, thank u!!!
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Flash Strap:

↳ WR @9:52
1st rockfort rock predates that by at least 3 years
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tom tom the pipers son:

oh thanks evan..the theme music always grabs me b y surprise
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Kat in the chat:

Thanks for psychedelcizing my soul tonight, Flash!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Flash Strap @9:53
i come for da riddims, stay for de edjacation!
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Aitch:

Life saving sounds Evan, thanks so much.
Turned one of the nurses onto the show, a dub fancier
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Little Danny:

wfmu.org... come gaggle with me!
  9:55pm
samfiman:

Thanks Flash, thanks everyone in the chat! Sleep tight and Dub right!!!
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StringOFperils:

Great show, Evan! And interesting to reflect on ... things. In dub argot: Massive.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Aitch @9:54
i read somewhere that dub is good for the bone marrow
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spodiodi:

thank you, Flash! great show. thanks to everyone for sharing

see you next time
  9:57pm
Kat in the chat:

Ha, that’s excellent Aitch.
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WR:

↳ Flash Strap @9:53
The credited co-writers on that Spear track are Phillip Fullwood and M. Lawrence. Don't know their history. And don't know the Rockfort Rock history either.
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flannery:

thank u!
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WR:

↳ Aitch @9:54
Jah never run away! Aitch!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Evan!
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WR:

Thank you! Flash!
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Flash Strap:

↳ Aitch @9:54
my god i love to hear that
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Manta:

thanks, Flash!!
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Flash Strap:

↳ Kat in the chat @9:54
my incredible pleasure Kat!
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AMYGDALA:

Such a great show, such great, informative dialog by incredibly knowledgeable people; DJ and listeners alike - loved it!
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Flash Strap:

↳ WR @9:57
i don't recall how i did on the history but here was a little rockfort special set: wfmu.org...
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Flash Strap:

↳ AMYGDALA @10:01
hey amygdala! glad you dug it
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Flash Strap:

thank you everyone! good night, see you soon
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WR:

↳ Flash Strap @10:01
thanks
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AMYGDALA:

So good Evan, 'night!
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chresti:

Thanks Flash!
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