WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 7, 2024

Listener comments!
	8:50am Mxter Baba: So ready!
	9:00am HyperDose: ↳ Mxter Baba @8:50 MxBB! 🐝💜
	9:01am captain beef fart: Mernin'
	9:01am Marley P. Dogg: Morning Trouble and fellow Troubled souls - one day at a time and always resist
	9:01am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:01am bradford: Good morning Trouble & all.
	9:02am Mike in Montreal: Greetings troubled ones
	9:02am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble and listeners
	9:03am bobob plasticland: T R E O U B L E
	9:03am chresti: Morning Trouble and troubled
	9:03am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning Trouble and all. And yes I'm still troubled by Tuesday.
	9:03am Dances with Moomins: Morning to the Troubled indeed.
	9:03am Karl: Morning. That’s all.
	9:04am StringOFperils: Mourning, Trouble.
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all. This utterly fucking sucks.
	9:04am common: take me away, trouble
	9:04am Vivian: Morning all. Still pissed off. Where do we go from here?
	9:05am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble. Whatever tools defeat fascism, get 'em out!
	9:05am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	9:05am Triple G: Hi Trouble, Troublemakers … good start, matching mood
	9:05am Vivian: Contemplating how to become the resistance.
	9:07am StringOFperils: Make transgressive art. Public messaging is always good. Take them out at the ankles. Do what you can.
	9:07am Matty cannabis: 💔 hello trouble and all the broken souls of sanity
	9:08am common: ↳ StringOFperils @9:07 i'm makin the art, but my soul feels depleted and my brain is broken
	9:08am disco_nap_: Hi Troublemakers
	9:08am No Big Thing in Chicago: Good morning, Trouble and (rightfully) Troubled. It's time to do some (more) work.
	9:10am pot8o: i was terrified yesterday morning, but now I've made some sort of strange, twisted peace with it i have no control over what trump does, trump has no control over what i do, it's best to just keep your head up and take it a day at a time I've completely disengaged from social media, all i use is this comment section for the most part
	9:11am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ pot8o @9:10 i think that's also the brave thing to do
	9:11am StringOFperils: A groundswell of pure resistance is what you face; they have the courts, they have the senate, and it looks like they'll have the house of reps., so that leaves dedicated stubborn refusal and probably lawlessness, given what law might come to mean. Here's where the rubber meets the road.
	9:11am disco_nap_: Yesterday felt so surreal to me and I felt numb for most of it, just went through the motions of my day. Today I woke up feeling so depressed. I feel like I'm about to cry or throw up or both.
	9:11am Trouble: good morning thursday people.
	9:12am common: ↳ disco_nap_ @9:11 same
	9:12am Philip: ahhhhhhh let's ease into this fascist groove thang troublistas
	9:12am Handy Haversack: ↳ pot8o @9:10 Disengaging -- permanently! -- from social media is a form of resistance! Big Tech won this election for its billionaire bosses. Do not be their product! buttondown.com...
	9:13am James in ATL: I am here for GOOD TROUBLE. Good morning to all that are suffering as well.
	9:14am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ common @9:08 Same here.
	9:14am Mike in Montreal: ↳ pot8o @9:10 I went off social media a few years ago and can tell you it works. It feels good, like the olden times!
	9:14am Jessica B: ↳ common @9:12 Me too. I feel physically ill.
	9:15am WoodsOfMaine: I’m doubling my contribution to the ACLU. They’re gonna need it.
	9:15am No Big Thing in Chicago: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:12 Big believer in this.
	9:15am pot8o: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:14 im down to just reddit, here, and discord, and the they're just for specific hobbies I have i deleted twitter last night
	9:16am common: i hear you, woods, jessica. good vibes to you both. all of you
	9:16am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Mxter Baba @8:50 Hugs to you, friend. (And all of you here.)
	9:16am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:15 Same!
	9:17am Mike in Montreal: ↳ pot8o @9:15 same. I contact people directly.
	9:18am Mike in Montreal: Like the song says, "I'm Going Underground"
	9:18am WoodsOfMaine: I deleted twitter the day captain fascist bought it.
	9:18am Listener Jonny in MA: Thank you Trouble. Love you.
	9:18am common: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:18 me too
	9:19am StringOFperils: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:18 Helpful hint: Don't carry a phone while walking beneath Elon's Star Link surveillance net. You're soaking in it.
	9:19am WoodsOfMaine: And not that I’ll notice (since I’m unplugging from all news) but I honestly wouldn’t care if the cheato jesus went after the times and the post. Their double standards disgusted me.
	9:20am Planet Ø Tyler: Morning all. Our country is full of assholes. That is all.
	9:20am chresti: Big tech is making a demockery of democracy
	9:21am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: As Dr Seuss said: It's a troublesome world. All the people who are in it are troubled with troubles almost every minute. You ought to be thankful, a whole heaping lot, for the places and people you're lucky you're not…
	9:21am Marley P. Dogg: Looking forward to Mark Hurst’s show next week….
	9:21am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: But I still feel like a talking pile of pig slop today
	9:21am Planet Ø Tyler: I was going to apply to an archivist job w/ the EPA...but what's the point? Seriously don't think they are going to be around much longer.
	9:22am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: You sadly may need to archive the whole agency @planet
	9:23am austin: it is a serious thing just to be alive on this fresh morning in this broken world -- a fav from mary oliver
	9:23am Philip: ↳ Planet Ø Tyler @9:20 truth.
	9:24am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: Playlist right in the zone…sounds like the Trent reznor I’ve been stuck on last 2 days
	9:25am Mike in Montreal: ↳ StringOFperils @9:19 That's true, but being location tracked is not the same as conducting my social life away from the crazy-making apps
	9:25am patrick321: Hey Trouble and all...
	9:25am Lil Nicky: Thankful for this show >>> holding space together >>> what will grow from this latest pile of shit???
	9:26am disco_nap_: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:22 That might be the part that hurts me the most. I'm so so sad for the Earth. Our Mother.
	9:26am Tara: been in a state of impotent rage , this music is helping the heart
	9:27am StringOFperils: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:25 Please DO! Conducting one's social life is their worst fear. It's beyond control.
	9:28am Planet Ø Tyler: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:22 You're so right
	9:28am Mxter Baba: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @9:16 Hugging you back, KFHPkins, and so happy to see HyperDosekins! SOpkins! chrestikinskins! tttpskins! Handykins! oh, so many kins and palz here!
	9:29am tom tom the pipers son: cheers mbaba
	9:29am Handy Haversack: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:28 Babakins! Arms wide, heart open!
	9:30am StringOFperils: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:28 Hugs**
	9:30am captain beef fart: ↳ Song: "rama rama" by "alice coltrane" been waiting for this
	9:30am Mxter Baba: ↳ StringOFperils @9:27 that’s why we ought to send more postcards and support the USPS. contact me by my email and send me a mailing address and I will send postcards covered with stickers!
	9:30am chresti: Mxter Babakins!
	9:32am Ben in Newark: Good morning everyone! Grateful to be on the boards with all of you fine people, and for that healing set of music
	9:32am Mxter Baba: yes that felt empowering! and on the clicky star list, only two other DJs seem to have played this since 2017
	9:33am ∫ydniuß: Les oiseaux ne s'inquiètent pas, ils chantent joyeusement
	9:33am Handy Haversack: Also strongly recommend reading The Dawn of Everything by Davids Graeber and Wengrow, an anthropologist and archeologist, which at its heart shows that all societies are contingent, that we have 200,000 years of political experimenting under our belts, and these last 500 are neither foreordained nor permanent nor even predictive. We can change -- it's what we have always done. From a review of a new collection of Graber's writings by Rebecca Solnit: "He insisted, again and again, that industrialised Euro-American civilisation was, like other societies past and present, only one way of doing things among countless options. He cited times when societies rejected agriculture or technology or social hierarchy, when social groups chose what has often been dismissed as primitive because it was more free. And he rejected all the linear narratives that present contemporary human beings as declining from primordial innocence or ascending from primitive barbarism. He offered, in place of a single narrative, many versions and variations; a vision of societies as ongoing experiments, and human beings as endlessly creative. That variety was a source of hope for him, a basis for his recurrent insistence that it doesn’t have to be this way." shop.wordbookstores.com...
	9:33am HyperDose: Where are we? We're in the zone, baby! WFMU for life 📻🎶
	9:35am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 it's cartesianism
	9:35am Handy Haversack: How to Resist Amazon and Why: www.ravenbookstore.com...
	9:35am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 I dunno Handy, I really doubt anything is going to change (except the climate) in our lifetime. I hope I’m wrong.
	9:35am Mxter Baba: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 freeform for the deform!
	9:35am Marley P. Dogg: Hoboken uptown farmers market is till going: The Uptown Farmers' Market, located under the 14th Street Viaduct between Grand and Adams Streets will begin on May 4 and occur every Saturday from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. through Dec. 21.
	9:36am pot8o: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 gotta snatch a copy of this, been meaning to wean myself off the Amazon teat
	9:36am Mxter Baba: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 hey hey, Lawrence Kansas bookstore! yay! (my childhood home)
	9:37am WoodsOfMaine: Truth. We buy nearly all of our produce from local farmers. And for physical products, in Maine there is Reny’s. The Walmart up the street? We never go there.
	9:37am shilpa: Earth Chxrch / The Church of Stop Shopping! revbilly.com
	9:37am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 Thanks Handy - going to pick this up!
	9:37am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 have it bookmarked thanks...
	9:37am pot8o: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:36 gonna be visiting lawrence monday, fingers crossed!
	9:37am Rabbitsmokinintheferns: My local Wren hears you.
	9:38am Mich: Appreciate these concrete and irl suggestions thank you. I Quit prime, it’s a start
	9:38am Mxter Baba: "Convenience is the enemy “ Deee-Lite "I Had A Dream I Was Falling Through A Hole In The Ozone Layer"
	9:38am listener james from westwood: For goodness' sake, do please attend town/borough/city meetings. (And include your library board meetings!) I started attending our local board meetings earlier this year and with one exception, I've been the only member of the public there.
	9:39am ∫ydniuß: ↳ listener james from westwood @9:38 and one can zoom many of them. Cat filter optional.
	9:39am Mxter Baba: ↳ pot8o @9:37 say hi for me, I have no more family left there, but it’s a sweet little haven in the midwest
	9:40am kevlicki: Trouble- Some things to chew on https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-trump-wins/
	9:41am tom tom the pipers son: in ny state, hochul and letitia james sounded as if the have our backs...to the extent of their reach
	9:41am tom tom the pipers son: i say leave the birds on for an hour or so
	9:42am Webhamster Henry: 🕊️🦅🦆🦜🦢🐓🦉🐧🦤🦩🦚🐦‍⬛🪿
	9:42am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:35 Hey, you may be right, I don't know. But fighting then is all we have. Despair is OK -- acknowledging the scope of the struggle is OK. FEELING is OK! But one then still has to fight. Like Trouble said, there are a million small ways to do it that give up only convenience (bought always at the cost of someone ELSE's pain and suffering). It might be for nothing, at least in the terms that mean the most to us, what we hold precious. I can't see the future or know the scope of what might come. All I know is that there is no such thing as telos. Nothing is foreordained. So one may as well put one's energy into shaping a future one can at least feel prouder of.
	9:43am MarginWalker in Baltimore: ↳ kevlicki @9:40 Thanks for that share.
	9:43am Noir Lover: US Congress should be all birds.
	9:45am kevlicki: Handy- Rebecca Solnit just penned this piece Our mistake was to think we lived in a better country than we do https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/us-progressive-election-trump-maga Great byline “Americans will be stuck cleaning up after Maga’s destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves”
	9:47am newton: Yesterday was a tough day. I had things to keep me focused and occupied, but at the end of the day I was alone and had to explain to the dog how the world was changed. This here is my only social media and I already limit that. Working with local groups to safeguard the more vulnerable is always necessary. Offline things will become even more necessary as the surveillance and tracking of groups is only going to increase. As unpleasant as it may seem, in the long term people need to move out of our safe metropolitan and upstate bubbles INTO the America, become part of the red communities, open local businesses, live with them, earn their trust, and talk to them every day for years to break down the prejudices and expand the educations that have failed them to bring them over. And never treat them as deplorables or garbage. We need to share common goals and lives to be able to move minds and hearts
	9:47am In other news: Check out the photo in today’s Guardian “Best Reader Photos” (1/2-way down the page, labelled “New York, US”) https://www.theguardian.com/community/gallery/2024/nov/06/a-leap-of-faith-and-suzy-hotrods-last-game-readers-best-photos
	9:49am Handy Haversack: ↳ In other news @9:47 Fantastic!
	9:50am kevlicki: The wood thrush bird song- that’s why we named our farm after it! Plus they are one of the first songbirds to migrate back to our forests which also coincides with morel foraging season!!
	9:51am common: ↳ Noir Lover @9:43 yes!
	9:51am newton: 150,000 people moving to wyoming could flip that state that has only 300,000 registered voters who choose 2 senators same as 19 million new yorkers!
	9:52am judy from croton: Great info about the y b sapsucker! And there's a duo outside my window just now
	9:53am Planet Ø Tyler: ↳ newton @9:47 You're a better person than I Newton. Nothing can convince anymore that they aren't deplorable garbage. I am not unsad that that they probably hurt themselves more than us.
	9:54am listener james from westwood: Birds and birders are, as always, a balm.
	9:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Former WFMU DJ Mayuko has a bird-related program. beakuency.substack.com Next one will be November 23.
	9:56am Nymor: ↳ In other news @9:47 Excellent :) Thanks for the link. Go Suzy!
	9:57am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:42 I get what you’re saying. I’ve been trying to do the right thing my whole life and it seems like the needle never moves. I’m not advocating for my plan (which is to basically check out) but I’m just so damned tired, it’s about all I can do.
	9:57am Billybob: ↳ newton @9:47 When you said "never treat them as deplorables or garbage", you touched on one of the big reasons Trump one. When such hateful words came from the likes of Obama, Clinton and Biden, many Americans realized where they stood with such leaders. In Trump, they found someone who didn't see them that way.
	9:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ Planet Ø Tyler @9:53 I hear you. But the problem is that THIS is the strategy of capitalism -- keep the workers, the oppressed, divided and angry at each other through the creation of false divides: race, class, culture wars. If we don't make common cause against the actual enemy, the tiny group of capitalists who keep us divided so as to accelerate wealth extraction and take everything -- and do it soon! -- then we're well and truly screwed. Somehow, these barriers have to fall. And I continually think that it comes back to antiracist work. Start there, with capitalism's original strategy of division, and all the other -isms start to fall.
	9:58am three-hour brunch friend: thankful for this show, this station, this space, all your strategizing brains and caring hearts
	9:59am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:57 Read the thing that kevlicki posted, when you're able and feel up to it. Grieving is OK! It is necessary. Give yourself time and space and forgiveness. wagingnonviolence.org...
	9:59am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Billybob @9:57 Oh, I think Trump sees them that way. He just doesn’t let on to it. He “loves” them only because they’lll vote for him, cup his balls, etc.
	9:59am ∫ydniuß: don’t waste your time with that won
	10:01am Peri: Just want to say that my cat loves this part of the show.
	10:03am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "highland birds, birds on a mid may morning" I am totally digging this segment.
	10:03am Ken From Hyde Park: In the third grade, the chant was often "Dish it out but can't take it!"
	10:04am Barney Grubbs: I would like to weigh in in support of the unjustly maligned chipping sparrow.
	10:05am Webhamster Henry: Yma birding along...
	10:06am Reno D: Bring it on home, Yma! Peruvian songbird.
	10:06am Clincher16": ↳ newton @9:47 It's not a bad idea. We moved to a red collar county about 30 miles out of Chicago 30 years ago. As the population grew over those three decades, the county got purpler until eventually, two election cycles ago, Democrats won a majority on the County Board and still hold most local administrative and legislative offices today. It's not exactly "the sticks," but it has been nice to witness the evolution. That said, we did not make THEM deplorable. The fact remains that prejudice and bigotry are real and society will always be vulnerable to it as long as so-called "marginal" communities assert their rightful share in society with all the pride and self-actualization that we all deserve.
	10:06am Phillippe: Morning all
	10:06am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "taita inty" by "yma sumac" Found this record for $2 at a local place! One bad scratch but otherwise OK!
	10:07am geegee vindaloo: Hey I got out of bed and rode my bike to my studio, that's better than yesterday. Thanks all for being here.
	10:07am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:06 It was among my father's 10" records that my brother snagged...
	10:07am Mr Gee: Hope everyone's doing the best they can! I have a link to a free 30 days on Headspace meditation app if anyone would like!
	10:08am Noir Lover: Recently a Verizon guy came to my apt to fix my internet. South Brooklyn Italian. Union guy. I complained about the Verizon AI chat. He was like “yeah, it’s all about the money”. Together we kvetched about corporations while he fixed my internet. He was like “you’re a good guy, I’m not going to charge you, you pay enough money.” Then he goes on “I’m a liberal guy, I don’t care wtf people do, if they are trans or whatever. But I gotta tell you, I’m voting for Trump.” We were simpatico on the problem, just not the conclusion. But I came away hopeful. Because we basically agreed on the problem. A greed. A corporate greed.
	10:08am Mxter Baba: ↳ kevlicki @9:45 thanks for that!
	10:09am Billybob: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:59 If that's the case (and I see no evidence of it), at least he doesn't say it. He saw a void, and he filled it. That's what elected leaders do. I'm just trying to explain a bit from the other side.
	10:09am Vivian: ↳ Noir Lover @10:08 Did he say why he was voting for T?
	10:11am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Billybob @9:57 So tired of this double-standard. T***p is so full of hate, mocking disabled people, disrespecting women and minorities, but it's the hateful speech from the liberals that's the problem somehow? Doesn't add up.
	10:12am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:06 Nice! I bought that at a store new for _way_ more than two bucks. Good haul.
	10:14am Phillippe: ↳ pot8o @9:37 Uncle Michael does his show from Lawrence, I believe
	10:15am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:11 Exactly this. I saw an article where a guy visited (I think) Montana….went into a store where they were selling t-shirts with the map of the u.s. on them with the text “Fuck You, We’re Full.” Sorry, not cutting people like that any slack.
	10:16am Charles in Chicago: I'm just gonna leave this quote from Schiller ("the german Shalespeare") here and log off, so I don't get sucked into pointless debate. I posted this earlier on Clay's show, but there's a different crowd now so maybe it's OK to repost.
	10:17am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:16 Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield! Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain. Exalted reason, Resplendent daughter of the head divine, Wise foundress of the system of the world, Guide of the stars, who art thou then if thou, Bound to the tail of folly's uncurbed steed, Must, vainly shrieking with the drunken crowd, Eyes open, plunge down headlong in the abyss. Accursed, who striveth after noble ends, And with deliberate wisdom forms his plans! To the fool-king belongs the world. Die Jungfrau von Orleans (The Maid of Orleans) (1801), Act III, sc. vi (as translated by Anna Swanwick)
	10:17am Philip: this show is really doing the trick for me today. Thanks Trouble
	10:17am pot8o: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:15 ignorance and isolation breeds hatred, to isolate them further causes them to radicalize further
	10:18am Jason from Houston: Hey there, friends. Work is silly busy today but just hopping on to say hello and I love you. Locked and listening. Thank you, Trouble.
	10:19am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:16 Good idea.
	10:19am Michael C St Lou: late hello Trouble and all, TY for the pleasant auditory distractions. Great points all. Capitalism is not sustainable and recent events could hasten the collapse in ways we cannot even imagine yet
	10:19am Billybob: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:57 I like your second paragraph about being "anti-racist". I agree. And one way is to dispense with the DEI stuff. All DEI does is create hierarchies of who's most important. That creates resentment. And then, it doesn't work. It just exacerbates the problem it was designed to solve.
	10:22am Handy Haversack: ↳ Billybob @10:19 Bullshit.
	10:22am newton: calling people stupid is not going to win them over to your side. Nor will it make them realize that they are stupid and want to become smart like you. If you want to win people over you have to treat them as equals, with warmth and empathy. and over time teach them to think, teach them to analyze, teach them some history. If you cant live side by side with them, ugh it sounds like Im advocating some sort of reverse missionary act, then write plays, tv scripts , films that dont exploit them or call them names, but that show their lives and maybe even indirectly show the falsity of some of the basic premises they've been sold and how these large things affect them, and how small things can make a difference. To change their minds you have to move their hearts
	10:24am pot8o: in my eyes, i have empathy for the rank and file trump supporter swabbing the deck, but i have zero for the captains at the helm
	10:27am Billybob: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 Here I am, trying to at least get dialogue going, even agreeing with you on some points, and all you come back with is "bullshit". Maybe you just need to look in the mirror a bit more to see that you may be part of the problem.
	10:27am Trouble: lets try to build empathy here, people. Not agreeing is cool but i really don't want this to devolve into fighting words.
	10:28am Noir Lover: ↳ Vivian @10:09 He thought he speaks to him and people like him. Or recognizes him. Something like that.
	10:28am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @10:27 Sorry, Trouble. I should not respond to bad-faith arguments. You are right.
	10:28am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Song: "how many are one?" by "flock" Good "Music to Get Something Done To" music.
	10:29am disco_nap_: ↳ shilpa @9:37 Hell yes, The Church of Stop Shopping rules!
	10:29am Trouble: for many many moons i have taught in the inner city and I think DEI is vital to advancing EVERYBODY. DEI is not about putting someone who is not qualified into a position just because of their background. DEI is about making sure to pay attention to allllll the candidates not just the people who look like you or sound like you.
	10:30am strangegait: Just stepped into the chat to say that this set is really just the thing I need this morning. Thanks so much Trouble. I'll see myself out.
	10:34am Fredericks: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:21 Thanks for that reminder.
	10:34am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Billybob @10:27 This bigot is just here to troll and gloat - ignore him
	10:36am disco_nap_: ↳ newton @9:47 I personally don't feel at all safe in red areas
	10:37am Billybob: ↳ Trouble @10:29 I agree that that's the way it should be used. But too often, it's just a policy that comes from above, and those in charge of implementing it, simply look at it as a quota system. Joe Biden himself, said that he was going to specifically look for someone who's black and female for the VP position. It didn't seem to work out very well, as we saw on Tuesday.
	10:38am Trouble: i disagree @billybob.
	10:38am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @10:37 she had plenty of issues, being a black woman wasn't one of them
	10:40am Billybob: ↳ pot8o @10:38 I totally agree! Being a black woman was not the problem. That was my point.
	10:40am newton: Time to go! Thanks Trouble for the great healing tunes and positive forum.
	10:41am Vivian: ↳ pot8o @10:38 Right. The issue is we have a electorate that doesn't believe a woman can be President. A smart, fearless woman has to work 5 times as hard as a man.
	10:41am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Trouble @10:27 Good point. The collective WE just got our asses kicked up and down the block. Can we step back for a minute and look at how it all happened. In my case, it's my own isolation - where I live and who I talk to on a daily bases. I suspect in the coming months, lots of us are going do some serious self-examination about how he look at the world around us.
	10:42am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "Luukku Yksi" by "Tomutonttu ja Lehtisalo" I want to see a movie for which this was the ending credits. Like whatever the Finnish Buckaroo Banzai would've been back then.
	10:42am HyperDose: Riding the wave!
	10:43am common: ↳ Song: "slave to the rhythm ( ladies and gentlemen)" by "... love this song and video!
	10:44am Harry Corvair: ↳ In other news @9:47 Great pic! Thanks for posting this!
	10:44am hilaryprudy: my takeaway is that for many people in this country the form of government is just not that important...and for many is not working
	10:45am Philip: ohhhhhhhhhh now!!! i haven't heard this track in years!
	10:45am pot8o: ↳ hilaryprudy @10:44 plenty of incumbents have been dethroned worldwide, this was just part of a trend
	10:47am chresti: money money by horace andy (dance hall style) 🔥🔥🔥🔥
	10:47am austin: loving this 1
	10:48am Blacktooth: If you really want to get everyone riled up, talk about how we address addictions to all behaviors that can develop into compulsions (alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, food, screen time) and how money and power are NEVER discussed in those terms....
	10:49am Yes: Trouble reggae sets are it
	10:51am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Morning all. We're fucked.
	10:54am hilaryprudy: ↳ Blacktooth @10:48 that's because those are holy values in thus uber capitalist country...
	10:54am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "road to self" by "Kamasi Washington" Soooooo good.
	10:54am Michael C St Lou: and IMHO, some responsibility has to fall on the Biden admin and DOJ slow walking everything for years trying to prove a point to let the voters decide or something and that back fired badly
	10:55am Blacktooth: I'm in 100% agreement with you. We all get to suffer because a bunch of people thought Michael Douglas saying "greed is good" 50 years ago was really cool.
	10:56am three-hour brunch friend: ↳ Yes @10:49 agreed!
	10:57am TDK60: Hi Trouble. Kamasi! It helps. Oh yeah, Fuck Trump.
	10:57am pot8o: ↳ Michael C St Lou @10:54 yeah, merrick garland has blood on his hands
	10:57am Billybob: I believe a woman can be president. Just show me the right one. In '16, during the primaries, I was very impressed with Carly Fiorina. She got a small percentage of Republicans behind her...more, in fact, than some of the male candidates. For whatever reasons, though, she didn't work out.
	10:58am hilaryprudy: some sad truths...humans by nature are greedy and selfish...emulating other ways of being is an uphill battle
	10:58am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @10:57 Hillary would've won had she not been screwed over by the electoral college
	10:58am Ochre Ogre: Hi Trouble!
	10:58am hilaryprudy: and as just evidenced often irrational...
	11:00am Trouble: greed is sold to us by capitalism: "you deserve a break today" has morphed into "you deserve this". It's a form of retail therapy that is prevalent across the spectrum. It's so embedded that it's hard to notice anymore.
	11:00am Billybob: ↳ pot8o @10:58 That's a different issue...not having anything to do with her gender.
	11:00am Blacktooth: ↳ hilaryprudy @10:58 I feel you 100% but I'm sticking with being (what I think is) a caring and compassionate person. I'm doing my best not to get down in the dirt and sling mud. Which is, of course, difficult to resist at times.... Keep going...
	11:02am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @11:00 yeah, more of a lament more than anything i didn't like her at all but she was better than trump
	11:02am hilaryprudy: ↳ Blacktooth @11:00 yep, can't imagine joining the party of hate
	11:02am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 Hi Handy! Ive been resisting Amazon for many yrs, even the most minimal shopping at Whole Foods after the takeover.
	11:04am Fredericks: ↳ Billybob @9:57 Oh, but he does. He just lies about his affection Check who he hangs out with.
	11:04am disco_nap_: Just found out that for the first time in history, the Senate will vote to block US weapons being sent to Israel. We all need to contact our Senators now through November 13th to help make it happen. Here is a link to receive a phone call on the number you provide and be patched through to your Senator. You will see a script once you are connected. www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org...
	11:04am listener james from westwood: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:02 The final time I went into a WF, it felt so forbidding and sterile . . . the last thing a place touting "natural" food ought to vibe like. More like an operating theater.
	11:04am Bjorn Be: Heyyy look at the bright side, Russians survive (though not all) and some select few even thrive under the rule of a crazy person and his oligarchs. You're in more or less the same boat now..(Trump/Musk/Bezos..etc..)Sadly it will affect the rest of the world as well.
	11:04am pot8o: ↳ Song: "go to hell" by "nina simone" bought the original lp this is from for $2 at a thrift shop, been cherishing it ever since
	11:05am hilaryprudy: thanks so much for playing Nina, trouble. We are all going to need some kind of spiritual sustenance over the next four years...if we survive..
	11:05am Meesalikeu: this is what we get for not restoring the fairness doctrine in political broadcasting that ronald reagan destroyed. you can just say unchallenged lies over and over again like a clown in all media until the masses believe you.
	11:05am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "go to hell" by "nina simone" his might be the #1 song on WFMU this week
	11:05am chresti: go to hell by nina simone (the essential nina simone) 💥💥💥💥
	11:06am hilaryprudy: ↳ unpopularfred @11:05 Hitler's also had many mentions...
	11:08am Handy Haversack: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:02 I can't even remember the last time I Amazoned. I think it has to be ten years now!
	11:08am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Look, the bullshit is already starting. There are no fine points to debate. America did this to itself, and it started with Reagan.
	11:09am Charles in Chicago: ↳ newton @10:22 The thing is, I've given up on winning people over to my side and I'm going to call out stupidity and evil when I see it. I'm also going to take a break from the comments boards for a while. Not good for my blood pressure. I don't want anyone to think anything has happened to me ... Fredericks, Handy, other friends here ... if you or anyone wants to contact me you can reach me through the listener contact page. I'm fine but just disengaging for a while. Bye for now!
	11:09am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:08 i remember the last time i did jason & the argonauts!
	11:10am northguineahills: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 feel fine charles, we're all hanging in there!
	11:10am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: The gloating on social media -- men yelling "Your body, MY choice..." Nah, I will continue to call stupid stupid and evil evil.
	11:10am love2laf: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Take care Charles, you'll be missed, but you have to do what is best for you.
	11:11am Ochre Ogre: ↳ listener james from westwood @11:04 Yeah, I feel ya. So many of small natural food places in my NYC neighb shut down.
	11:11am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Posi vibes, old chum.
	11:13am Meesalikeu: troubs — i just emailed you for brody&jordan carnegie tix lady — fingers crossed and thx
	11:14am Handy Haversack: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 I know how to find you, Charles. Take good care of yourself!
	11:14am listener james from westwood: Fulop sent me (bc I'm a Bergen County Democratic Committee drone) a birthday card last year. Problem was, it was 6 months off; it arrived with the Christmas/winter cards. That tells me all I need to know about a Fulop governorship.
	11:14am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @10:51 Horrified to think of the vile fkers that will be in his close circle, bannon, roger stone, s. miller...
	11:15am The Butterman: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:41 Franco! I already got and started reading “living with the dead”! Love it right away!
	11:15am Picante Mint: Really appreciating the thoughtful discussions on the message board (as usual) this morning, thanks and I hope everyone is doing okay.
	11:16am Meesalikeu: @handy — i take you don’t live in bf staten island lol. amazon is life. but seriously we are laying off it as much as possible.
	11:16am Noir Lover: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:08 Agree, but Bill Clinton moved the Dems to the center-right on many issues like deregulation, privatization, globalization and the cutting of social programs. By moving the Dems to the center it allowed to GOP to move further right.
	11:17am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Picante Mint @11:15 I'm alternating with despair, anger and hopefulness. Working on adjusting the ratios.
	11:17am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:08 Probably. I agree with what you said yesterday about Democrats bringing a dead fish to a gun fight. My social circle is resolutely a bunch of yabbering blue coats. Do I look beyond them for an unwanted reality check? Never.
	11:18am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And honestly at this point let the Red states reap what they sow. Yeah, the Dems running on common sense with a side of social issues alienated a lot of really stupid people. Yes I said the S word. People who have no idea how markets work, no idea how female reproduction works, crappy schools, and zero intellectual capacity. But nah, it's Evil Bad Immigrants Eating Cats that are making their kids gay or something. They think prices are high now....wait until produce rots in the fields because there's nobody to pick it. Get used to getting sick a lot more when we have zero food safety standards. And guess what, all the shit at WalMart is no longer going to be cheap because....news flash....tariffs are added to the cost of the goods and borne by the consumer.
	11:19am listener james from westwood: ↳ Noir Lover @11:16 Yup. Still remember his admin giving us that telecom reform act and Gramm-Leach-Bliley, which killed FDR-era financial reforms.
	11:19am Picante Mint: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:17 I'm with you there.
	11:20am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And guess what? Y'know that Faux News is based in NYC....and the people who work there don't send their kids to Billy Jack Bob's School of Bible Thumping and Snake Handling. They wouldn't wipe the shit off of their shoes with the average Trump voter.
	11:22am pot8o: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:17 channel that anger and despair into action and use the hope as motivation a bright future will come, we just need to fight for it
	11:22am Billybob: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:10 That didn't happen. That's not even the issue re abortion, for the anti-abortion people. It's about whether/when it's a life. It's not about some sort of misogyny. You just want it to be that.
	11:23am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: People with money will always have access to medical care and a somewhat safer food supply. Smart people will get vaccinated. And anyone not wanting to live around vast numbers of stupid, heavily armed people will leave, which means a lot of professionals will take their services with them.
	11:23am chresti: School of bible thumping
	11:23am chresti: ⭐️⭐️⭐️
	11:23am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:18 For sure. Dumb shits ran with the ball this time around. I live on the Western blue edge, and you live on the preeminent island. Will you or I eat shit and die? Most likely not, but still...
	11:24am Trouble: since most anti-choice states allow death penalty killings, I also disagree with that thought idea. And since several women have most recently died while miscarrying after being rejected from a hospital, that also says it's about controlling women's bodies, and nothing more. An act of sex is not a baby
	11:26am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Billybob @11:22 NO it's always been about control. I've talked to men who think that women start to show at 5 weeks, and we somehow magically know when they're pregnant. In America, you need permission beforehand to take organs from a dead body, but you want half of the population to be on permanent gestation standby? Women are already dying in red states because doctors are afraid to intervene in cases of miscarriage. Rape victims are being forced to carry to term. And women are being harassed more already; go read any social media feed not run by a white male.
	11:28am Picante Mint: It's 100% about controlling women. After the decision was knocked back to the states, conservatives jumped on trying to ban IVF, contraceptives, abstinence only sex ed, etc.
	11:29am Billybob: ↳ Trouble @11:24 Well, people on death row, by nature of their crime, have stated they support the death penalty. A fetus has no say in the matter. That said, I'm not against abortion. But that's for pragmatic reasons, not moral ones.
	11:30am Ohio Listener: You are wasting your time trying to reason with this bozo, he just comes on here to aggravate people, he was doing it yesterday on Wake too
	11:30am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Billybob @11:29 Hot take: You don't get a say in what other people do with their bodies. Would you be OK with getting a random knock on the door and being told that by law, you have to give blood/a lung/kidney to save the life of someone ALREADY HERE and actuall post-born? Also reality check time. Go read this: www.threads.net...
	11:30am Handy Haversack: Can we please stop enabling this troll? No one here is going to convince them of anything. Not in this forum, not through a chat. If they cannot understand systems of oppression or ethics of care, we are not going to effect that understanding here. Just ignore it. Maybe it has a parade or something to go it.
	11:31am Ochre Ogre: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:59 He said something like, I don't care about you I just want your vote. Months ago at a speech of a Christian group he claimed, "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."
	11:31am Trouble: thank you @ handy for being the voice of reason. i am done here
	11:33am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 Well said - let the trolls fight among themselves
	11:33am WoodsOfMaine: Handy is always the voice of reason. Except for when he’s not.
	11:33am Yes: popping in to say this mountain movers is very nice
	11:34am Noir Lover: ↳ listener james from westwood @11:19 Telecom Act of '96 was a travesty. Wild guess but are you an admirer of Lina Khan. If so welcome to the club. I didn't know it was a club, but it kind of is.
	11:34am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Billybob @11:29 I'll just take a gander here, and say you probably never got someone pregnant who wasn't your wife. Well let me tell you something smart guy, it's massively inconvenient for both parties involved.
	11:34am newton: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Not saying you cant call out stupid or evil, necessary distinctions that have to be made daily. I am saying that if you want to bring people who voted with the majority on tuesday over to our side, calling them names will not make them see the light. The problem is entrenched way deeper that that. Not everyone has to live in the trenches to fight the war either, or rather than war metaphors it might be more productive to characterize as education sharing. A terribly long term plan, but I dont see another way to bring people around. I am horrified by the results two days ago. I get that for today anger and name calling may be cathartic salves, just thinking that in the long term a strategy for overcoming this intractable ignorance has to be tractable education, which will require some empathy. But in case anyone misunderstands that my long term goal idea is weakness or sympathizing, the right wing nut jobs that are taking over all branches of our government and are bent on undermining all forms of decency, discourse, and freedoms that should be not only obvious but totally entrenched in the constitution, These people need to be stopped, confronted daily, and ultimately replaced.
	11:34am WoodsOfMaine: Lunch: a breakfast burrito. I’m such a rebel.
	11:35am common: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 good call, handy
	11:35am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:33 Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
	11:35am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:35 Heh.
	11:36am TDK60: ↳ Song: "know" by "nick drake" I never realized till now that that guitar riff Drake is playing is identical to a signature one John Lee Hooker used. Coincidence?
	11:36am WoodsOfMaine: @Trouble: Great show, thanks. You only added four things to my bandcamp wishlist. “Only”
	11:37am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And let me add that a lot of the Red Hat Kool Aid Krew is gonna be very sad when their Medicare gets cut. And guess what, US manufacturing jobs are not coming back. And FWIW I have no desire to bring "those who voted for the Orange Anus over to our side." I want them disempowered. I am not here to debate them. There is no debating with people who want to destroy you.
	11:37am Franco Twinkie: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:34 HAHA!!!
	11:37am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:36 Never noticed, do you know which Hooker song?
	11:38am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:37 Yeah, don’t leave us hangin’!!!
	11:39am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:37 Howdy Ochre O. That's what I meant by "signature." Used a lot. But I can't name one now.
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:37 ...and are taking in polluted air & water, suffering from measles, etc.
	11:41am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, and the Troubled gathered here. Many of you give me hope, and that is no small thing. Thank you all.
	11:42am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:39 K, I'll have to investigate, sure I have the Hooker song as well as several of N Drake LPs.
	11:43am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 Yup. Let em. Honestly at this point the NE and PNW should just start withholding Federal tax money in escrow. Red states are also the biggest welfare recipients and use much more than they put in. They wanna be free of "Big Gubmint?" Cool. At this point America is a shit sandwich with almost ALL of the industry, smarts, and taxable income on the two coasts.
	11:44am disco_nap_: Thank you so much, Trouble and Troublemakers. I'm finally functional today. It took a few hours of lying around and feeling depressed. The music and the chat helped immensely. I'm ready to resist.
	11:44am pot8o: im gonna try to get the fuck out of iowa the instant i can, Minnesota or Illinois seem like good options
	11:44am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:42 O.O. I just went a searchin' JLH stuff on Youtube. I have some LPs too. I could research but not enough time to do now.
	11:44am WoodsOfMaine: Trolling might be interesting on Pseu’s show. She doesn’t appear to be in the mood.
	11:45am disco_nap_: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:43 I LOVE that plan honestly. I'm exhausted and infuriated by them holding the rest of us back from a decent quality of life.
	11:46am pot8o: ↳ pot8o @11:44 thinking about moving to germany too
	11:46am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:44 I pity the fool who trolls on Pseu! I mean, a little at any rate.
	11:46am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Trump's entire base hates facts. They deny climate change, how vaccines work, how freaking women's bodies work, how economies work, etc etc etc. Let the Yalliban rot in its own stew. But disempower them from getting their shit all over thinking people.
	11:46am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:44 K, let you know the result, if I come to one.
	11:46am The Butterman: Thanks, Trouble and fine listeners. We knew the board would be like this today. A lot more civilized than I thought! Love to all.
	11:47am common: ↳ pot8o @11:46 let me know what you find out!
	11:47am Yes: Beautiful
	11:47am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ pot8o @11:46 It's not as easy as just picking up and showing up. You need a visa, a work permit, etc etc etc.
	11:47am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:46 Vice versa, OO. Just a busy day here at the cassette castle.
	11:47am Noir Lover: Whenever I'm down on America I think, "yeah but John Coltrane is American."
	11:47am Reno D: Thanks, disco nap, I did that.
	11:48am pot8o: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:47 yeah, this is way way way down the road, probably when im in my 30s
	11:48am maria.collins18@aol.com: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:10 That DOUCHEBAG is Nick Fuentes. Trumpers even hate him.
	11:49am Reno D: I don’t know how to make an “in reply to…” response. Help?
	11:50am rf: ↳ Song: "my pains are very big" by "nina de la puebla" this was great. thanks DJ trouble
	11:50am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Reno D @11:49 Click on be talk bubble next to the comment
	11:50am Mike in Montreal: ↳ Reno D @11:49 click the little speach balloon of the comment you want to respond to
	11:50am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "stuck" by "grouper" Not sure I’ve ever listened to these people before but this is nice.
	11:51am Handy Haversack: ↳ Reno D @11:49 Not sure you can do it from the app.
	11:51am Ochre Ogre: I tell youse this, trying to rationalize with trumpers, is like talking to a born again Baptist, Ive had the experiences. The wall is Thick!
	11:51am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And, let me add: It's not a question of when the country goes full fascist -- we're clearly there. We had our Germany 1932 Test run and we failed as a nation. If Blue enclaves start to fall, I'm outta here. I love NYC. It's my home and I'm from here. But I DO have an EU passport and citizenship. I speak German. If Social Security is gonna get cut I may as well retire at 62 and not wait for a larger payout, and GTFO. Lots of nice quiet retirement communities up by the North Sea. You know what else I'll be taking with me? An Ivy League education and my tax dollars. I'm already pricing apartments in Berlin and Helsinki.
	11:52am pot8o: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:51 you can plant those seeds, it's up to them to water them and make them grow
	11:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:51 You can always say something like "@Reno D @ 11:49" like we did in the old days.
	11:52am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:52 Ahh - simpler times
	11:53am disco_nap_: ↳ Reno D @11:47 Not sure what this is in response to but you’re welcome
	11:53am Bjorn Be: As far as i know there is no way to log in to the Woof Moo app. But would it not be better to change that so that trolls would not be able to post without logging in?
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Many thanks, Trouble! Troubled times indeed. But glad to have this community to weather them with. Take good care of yourselves, all.
	11:54am Yes: infinite thanks, trouble and all
	11:54am northguineahills: thanks again, trouble. always a pleasure!
	11:54am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:51 You can…you just have to long-press on the comment
	11:54am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:51 You'll then have to adopt me, K8, and the monsters.
	11:54am listener james from westwood: Thanks kindly, Trouble, for the soothing sounds!
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:55am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	11:55am Marley P. Dogg: Thanks Trouble - keep fighting the good fight friends
	11:55am prof.fuzz: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:54 and the threemoons house will need a house band (cough cough)
	11:55am bradford: Thanks as always, Trouble.
	11:55am Benoni: I have to admit, one of the things that annoys me the most is that Trump is babbling idiot. I thought democracy could be eroded by a General McArthur type who just came back from winning a huge war. Nah, it only took eggs rising a few dollars for voters to look past hiring a convicted felon to be their leader. Btw, the stock market—even big oil stocks performed far better under Biden than Trump—and that was in defiance of far higher interest rates. Biden and the Fed are responsible for the lowest inflation and best market appreciation of any country. Its not even close. But eggs...
	11:55am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:55am Fernanda Zamudio-Suarez: Thank you, Trouble! Love you!
	11:56am Mike in Montreal: Thanks Trouble, great show.
	11:56am Santos L. Halper: Thanks for the healing tunes Trouble. Stay strong and kind people
	11:56am TDK60: Merci, Trouble. To revive a slogan from Paris '68: "La lutte continue." The struggle continues.
	11:56am Handy Haversack: ↳ prof.fuzz @11:55 And we can finally get your cough looked at!
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: ↳ pot8o @11:52 Thanks Trouble! Peace Troublers
	11:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. One day at a time forever.
	11:56am prof.fuzz: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 with universal healthcare!
	11:57am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:56 *Oops
	11:57am Handy Haversack: I waved at Trouble a couple of times from the WFMU dollar tables but never made it over to your table!
	11:57am Barney Grubbs: great to meet you at the fair, and thanks as always for the tunes.
	11:57am Marley P. Dogg: Assuming the thought police don’t ban the record fair
	11:57am wimpy: Haven’t conservatives been in control in Germany for at least a decade?
	11:58am Franco Twinkie: Thanks Trouble. Your show is a great place to debate, surrounded by those who just want to get their boogie on.
	11:58am StringOFperils: Thank you! upload.wikimedia.org...
	11:58am pot8o: ↳ wimpy @11:57 nah, the socialist party has been in power for a few years now
	11:59am TDK60: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:58 Boogie on, Angeleno. Hee.
	11:59am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week
	11:59am wimpy: Also isn’t Germany the country where your landlord doesn’t have to provide flooring
	11:59am Reno D: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:53 Called two senators. And wow, I'm the only one listening via a phone? Handy's right, you can't do "in reply to" with the app. Opened my laptop to send this.
	11:59am Phillippe: Thanks trouble
	12:00pm three-hour brunch friend: thanks Trouble and i hope you have a restorative museum visit today
	12:00pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ wimpy @11:57 their conservatives are our centrists
	12:05pm Ochre Ogre: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @12:00 Oh snap I missed this one @ 11:20!!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 7, 2024

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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November 7, 2024: “In this country American means white. Everybody else has to hyphenate.” -Toni Morrison

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turn on the sunlight	island bells	ocean garden	disk union USA inc			*	0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
36	LVHT "LVHT" by "36"	dreamloops	Ba Da Bing!			*	0:06:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
alice coltrane	rama rama "rama rama" by "alice coltrane"	The Ecstatic Music Of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda					0:23:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

					birds and other sounds of the countryside sea and island birds echoes of nature soothing sounds for body and soul bird sanctuary songs of eastern birds		0:40:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
					woodland birds,songs of the forest, environments		0:48:13 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
					costa rican bird songs, amsel, drossel, fink und star,		0:53:12 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
					highland birds, birds on a mid may morning		0:58:22 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

yma sumac	taita inty "taita inty" by "yma sumac"	voice of the xtabay					1:03:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
nala sinephro	continuum 1 "continuum 1" by "nala sinephro"	endlessness	warp			*	1:06:41 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
the tower recordings	clang race "clang race" by "the tower recordings"	the fraternity of moonwalkers					1:13:02 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
flock	how many are one? "how many are one?" by "flock"	flock	strut			*	1:16:34 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
ivan the tolerable	queen of quilts	wild nature!	up in her room			*	1:29:54 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Tomutonttu ja Lehtisalo	Luukku Yksi	Tomutonttu ja Lehtisalo	Vhf			*	1:33:57 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
grace jones	slave to the rhythm ( ladies and gentlemen)	Slave To The Rhythm		12"			1:39:47 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
horace andy	money money "money money" by "horace andy"	dance hall style	wackies				1:44:39 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Kamasi Washington	road to self "road to self" by "Kamasi Washington"	fearless movement	young			*	1:50:31 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
nina simone	go to hell "go to hell" by "nina simone"	the essential nina simone					2:02:30 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

elkhorn	crystal hummingbird "crystal hummingbird" by "elkhorn"	the red valley	Vhf			*	2:13:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
aoife nessa frances	way to say goodbye	protector					2:16:23 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
shady cove	passenger/stray "passenger/stray" by "shady cove"	part 2	Regional Arts & Culture Council			*	2:21:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
mountain movers	night birds in the tree	walking after dark	Trouble In Mind Records			*	2:27:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
nick drake	know "know" by "nick drake"	pink moon					2:32:58 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
nina de la puebla	my pains are very big	My Greatest Revenge: Flamenco Recordings, 1904-1938 (V/a)	death is not the end			*	2:34:54 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
lara cannell and lori goldston	vaulted echoes	the deer are small and the rabbits are big	state51			*	2:38:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
grouper	stuck "stuck" by "grouper"	dragging a dead deer up a hill					2:44:24 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
gurdijeff/de hartmann	the struggle of the magicains part 3	I Am the Center: Private Issue New Age Music in America, 1950-1990					2:50:16 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

nina simone	assignment song "assignment song" by "nina simone"	a portrait of nina simone					2:57:09 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	8:50am Mxter Baba: So ready!
	9:00am HyperDose: ↳ Mxter Baba @8:50 MxBB! 🐝💜
	9:01am captain beef fart: Mernin'
	9:01am Marley P. Dogg: Morning Trouble and fellow Troubled souls - one day at a time and always resist
	9:01am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	9:01am bradford: Good morning Trouble & all.
	9:02am Mike in Montreal: Greetings troubled ones
	9:02am tom tom the pipers son: good morning trouble and listeners
	9:03am bobob plasticland: T R E O U B L E
	9:03am chresti: Morning Trouble and troubled
	9:03am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning Trouble and all. And yes I'm still troubled by Tuesday.
	9:03am Dances with Moomins: Morning to the Troubled indeed.
	9:03am Karl: Morning. That’s all.
	9:04am StringOFperils: Mourning, Trouble.
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all. This utterly fucking sucks.
	9:04am common: take me away, trouble
	9:04am Vivian: Morning all. Still pissed off. Where do we go from here?
	9:05am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble. Whatever tools defeat fascism, get 'em out!
	9:05am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	9:05am Triple G: Hi Trouble, Troublemakers … good start, matching mood
	9:05am Vivian: Contemplating how to become the resistance.
	9:07am StringOFperils: Make transgressive art. Public messaging is always good. Take them out at the ankles. Do what you can.
	9:07am Matty cannabis: 💔 hello trouble and all the broken souls of sanity
	9:08am common: ↳ StringOFperils @9:07 i'm makin the art, but my soul feels depleted and my brain is broken
	9:08am disco_nap_: Hi Troublemakers
	9:08am No Big Thing in Chicago: Good morning, Trouble and (rightfully) Troubled. It's time to do some (more) work.
	9:10am pot8o: i was terrified yesterday morning, but now I've made some sort of strange, twisted peace with it i have no control over what trump does, trump has no control over what i do, it's best to just keep your head up and take it a day at a time I've completely disengaged from social media, all i use is this comment section for the most part
	9:11am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ pot8o @9:10 i think that's also the brave thing to do
	9:11am StringOFperils: A groundswell of pure resistance is what you face; they have the courts, they have the senate, and it looks like they'll have the house of reps., so that leaves dedicated stubborn refusal and probably lawlessness, given what law might come to mean. Here's where the rubber meets the road.
	9:11am disco_nap_: Yesterday felt so surreal to me and I felt numb for most of it, just went through the motions of my day. Today I woke up feeling so depressed. I feel like I'm about to cry or throw up or both.
	9:11am Trouble: good morning thursday people.
	9:12am common: ↳ disco_nap_ @9:11 same
	9:12am Philip: ahhhhhhh let's ease into this fascist groove thang troublistas
	9:12am Handy Haversack: ↳ pot8o @9:10 Disengaging -- permanently! -- from social media is a form of resistance! Big Tech won this election for its billionaire bosses. Do not be their product! buttondown.com...
	9:13am James in ATL: I am here for GOOD TROUBLE. Good morning to all that are suffering as well.
	9:14am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ common @9:08 Same here.
	9:14am Mike in Montreal: ↳ pot8o @9:10 I went off social media a few years ago and can tell you it works. It feels good, like the olden times!
	9:14am Jessica B: ↳ common @9:12 Me too. I feel physically ill.
	9:15am WoodsOfMaine: I’m doubling my contribution to the ACLU. They’re gonna need it.
	9:15am No Big Thing in Chicago: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:12 Big believer in this.
	9:15am pot8o: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:14 im down to just reddit, here, and discord, and the they're just for specific hobbies I have i deleted twitter last night
	9:16am common: i hear you, woods, jessica. good vibes to you both. all of you
	9:16am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Mxter Baba @8:50 Hugs to you, friend. (And all of you here.)
	9:16am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:15 Same!
	9:17am Mike in Montreal: ↳ pot8o @9:15 same. I contact people directly.
	9:18am Mike in Montreal: Like the song says, "I'm Going Underground"
	9:18am WoodsOfMaine: I deleted twitter the day captain fascist bought it.
	9:18am Listener Jonny in MA: Thank you Trouble. Love you.
	9:18am common: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:18 me too
	9:19am StringOFperils: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:18 Helpful hint: Don't carry a phone while walking beneath Elon's Star Link surveillance net. You're soaking in it.
	9:19am WoodsOfMaine: And not that I’ll notice (since I’m unplugging from all news) but I honestly wouldn’t care if the cheato jesus went after the times and the post. Their double standards disgusted me.
	9:20am Planet Ø Tyler: Morning all. Our country is full of assholes. That is all.
	9:20am chresti: Big tech is making a demockery of democracy
	9:21am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: As Dr Seuss said: It's a troublesome world. All the people who are in it are troubled with troubles almost every minute. You ought to be thankful, a whole heaping lot, for the places and people you're lucky you're not…
	9:21am Marley P. Dogg: Looking forward to Mark Hurst’s show next week….
	9:21am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: But I still feel like a talking pile of pig slop today
	9:21am Planet Ø Tyler: I was going to apply to an archivist job w/ the EPA...but what's the point? Seriously don't think they are going to be around much longer.
	9:22am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: You sadly may need to archive the whole agency @planet
	9:23am austin: it is a serious thing just to be alive on this fresh morning in this broken world -- a fav from mary oliver
	9:23am Philip: ↳ Planet Ø Tyler @9:20 truth.
	9:24am Honest Bernardo from Argentina: Playlist right in the zone…sounds like the Trent reznor I’ve been stuck on last 2 days
	9:25am Mike in Montreal: ↳ StringOFperils @9:19 That's true, but being location tracked is not the same as conducting my social life away from the crazy-making apps
	9:25am patrick321: Hey Trouble and all...
	9:25am Lil Nicky: Thankful for this show >>> holding space together >>> what will grow from this latest pile of shit???
	9:26am disco_nap_: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:22 That might be the part that hurts me the most. I'm so so sad for the Earth. Our Mother.
	9:26am Tara: been in a state of impotent rage , this music is helping the heart
	9:27am StringOFperils: ↳ Mike in Montreal @9:25 Please DO! Conducting one's social life is their worst fear. It's beyond control.
	9:28am Planet Ø Tyler: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:22 You're so right
	9:28am Mxter Baba: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @9:16 Hugging you back, KFHPkins, and so happy to see HyperDosekins! SOpkins! chrestikinskins! tttpskins! Handykins! oh, so many kins and palz here!
	9:29am tom tom the pipers son: cheers mbaba
	9:29am Handy Haversack: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:28 Babakins! Arms wide, heart open!
	9:30am StringOFperils: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:28 Hugs**
	9:30am captain beef fart: ↳ Song: "rama rama" by "alice coltrane" been waiting for this
	9:30am Mxter Baba: ↳ StringOFperils @9:27 that’s why we ought to send more postcards and support the USPS. contact me by my email and send me a mailing address and I will send postcards covered with stickers!
	9:30am chresti: Mxter Babakins!
	9:32am Ben in Newark: Good morning everyone! Grateful to be on the boards with all of you fine people, and for that healing set of music
	9:32am Mxter Baba: yes that felt empowering! and on the clicky star list, only two other DJs seem to have played this since 2017
	9:33am ∫ydniuß: Les oiseaux ne s'inquiètent pas, ils chantent joyeusement
	9:33am Handy Haversack: Also strongly recommend reading The Dawn of Everything by Davids Graeber and Wengrow, an anthropologist and archeologist, which at its heart shows that all societies are contingent, that we have 200,000 years of political experimenting under our belts, and these last 500 are neither foreordained nor permanent nor even predictive. We can change -- it's what we have always done. From a review of a new collection of Graber's writings by Rebecca Solnit: "He insisted, again and again, that industrialised Euro-American civilisation was, like other societies past and present, only one way of doing things among countless options. He cited times when societies rejected agriculture or technology or social hierarchy, when social groups chose what has often been dismissed as primitive because it was more free. And he rejected all the linear narratives that present contemporary human beings as declining from primordial innocence or ascending from primitive barbarism. He offered, in place of a single narrative, many versions and variations; a vision of societies as ongoing experiments, and human beings as endlessly creative. That variety was a source of hope for him, a basis for his recurrent insistence that it doesn’t have to be this way." shop.wordbookstores.com...
	9:33am HyperDose: Where are we? We're in the zone, baby! WFMU for life 📻🎶
	9:35am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 it's cartesianism
	9:35am Handy Haversack: How to Resist Amazon and Why: www.ravenbookstore.com...
	9:35am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 I dunno Handy, I really doubt anything is going to change (except the climate) in our lifetime. I hope I’m wrong.
	9:35am Mxter Baba: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:33 freeform for the deform!
	9:35am Marley P. Dogg: Hoboken uptown farmers market is till going: The Uptown Farmers' Market, located under the 14th Street Viaduct between Grand and Adams Streets will begin on May 4 and occur every Saturday from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. through Dec. 21.
	9:36am pot8o: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 gotta snatch a copy of this, been meaning to wean myself off the Amazon teat
	9:36am Mxter Baba: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 hey hey, Lawrence Kansas bookstore! yay! (my childhood home)
	9:37am WoodsOfMaine: Truth. We buy nearly all of our produce from local farmers. And for physical products, in Maine there is Reny’s. The Walmart up the street? We never go there.
	9:37am shilpa: Earth Chxrch / The Church of Stop Shopping! revbilly.com
	9:37am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 Thanks Handy - going to pick this up!
	9:37am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 have it bookmarked thanks...
	9:37am pot8o: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:36 gonna be visiting lawrence monday, fingers crossed!
	9:37am Rabbitsmokinintheferns: My local Wren hears you.
	9:38am Mich: Appreciate these concrete and irl suggestions thank you. I Quit prime, it’s a start
	9:38am Mxter Baba: "Convenience is the enemy “ Deee-Lite "I Had A Dream I Was Falling Through A Hole In The Ozone Layer"
	9:38am listener james from westwood: For goodness' sake, do please attend town/borough/city meetings. (And include your library board meetings!) I started attending our local board meetings earlier this year and with one exception, I've been the only member of the public there.
	9:39am ∫ydniuß: ↳ listener james from westwood @9:38 and one can zoom many of them. Cat filter optional.
	9:39am Mxter Baba: ↳ pot8o @9:37 say hi for me, I have no more family left there, but it’s a sweet little haven in the midwest
	9:40am kevlicki: Trouble- Some things to chew on https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-trump-wins/
	9:41am tom tom the pipers son: in ny state, hochul and letitia james sounded as if the have our backs...to the extent of their reach
	9:41am tom tom the pipers son: i say leave the birds on for an hour or so
	9:42am Webhamster Henry: 🕊️🦅🦆🦜🦢🐓🦉🐧🦤🦩🦚🐦‍⬛🪿
	9:42am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:35 Hey, you may be right, I don't know. But fighting then is all we have. Despair is OK -- acknowledging the scope of the struggle is OK. FEELING is OK! But one then still has to fight. Like Trouble said, there are a million small ways to do it that give up only convenience (bought always at the cost of someone ELSE's pain and suffering). It might be for nothing, at least in the terms that mean the most to us, what we hold precious. I can't see the future or know the scope of what might come. All I know is that there is no such thing as telos. Nothing is foreordained. So one may as well put one's energy into shaping a future one can at least feel prouder of.
	9:43am MarginWalker in Baltimore: ↳ kevlicki @9:40 Thanks for that share.
	9:43am Noir Lover: US Congress should be all birds.
	9:45am kevlicki: Handy- Rebecca Solnit just penned this piece Our mistake was to think we lived in a better country than we do https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/us-progressive-election-trump-maga Great byline “Americans will be stuck cleaning up after Maga’s destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves”
	9:47am newton: Yesterday was a tough day. I had things to keep me focused and occupied, but at the end of the day I was alone and had to explain to the dog how the world was changed. This here is my only social media and I already limit that. Working with local groups to safeguard the more vulnerable is always necessary. Offline things will become even more necessary as the surveillance and tracking of groups is only going to increase. As unpleasant as it may seem, in the long term people need to move out of our safe metropolitan and upstate bubbles INTO the America, become part of the red communities, open local businesses, live with them, earn their trust, and talk to them every day for years to break down the prejudices and expand the educations that have failed them to bring them over. And never treat them as deplorables or garbage. We need to share common goals and lives to be able to move minds and hearts
	9:47am In other news: Check out the photo in today’s Guardian “Best Reader Photos” (1/2-way down the page, labelled “New York, US”) https://www.theguardian.com/community/gallery/2024/nov/06/a-leap-of-faith-and-suzy-hotrods-last-game-readers-best-photos
	9:49am Handy Haversack: ↳ In other news @9:47 Fantastic!
	9:50am kevlicki: The wood thrush bird song- that’s why we named our farm after it! Plus they are one of the first songbirds to migrate back to our forests which also coincides with morel foraging season!!
	9:51am common: ↳ Noir Lover @9:43 yes!
	9:51am newton: 150,000 people moving to wyoming could flip that state that has only 300,000 registered voters who choose 2 senators same as 19 million new yorkers!
	9:52am judy from croton: Great info about the y b sapsucker! And there's a duo outside my window just now
	9:53am Planet Ø Tyler: ↳ newton @9:47 You're a better person than I Newton. Nothing can convince anymore that they aren't deplorable garbage. I am not unsad that that they probably hurt themselves more than us.
	9:54am listener james from westwood: Birds and birders are, as always, a balm.
	9:55am Ken From Hyde Park: Former WFMU DJ Mayuko has a bird-related program. beakuency.substack.com Next one will be November 23.
	9:56am Nymor: ↳ In other news @9:47 Excellent :) Thanks for the link. Go Suzy!
	9:57am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:42 I get what you’re saying. I’ve been trying to do the right thing my whole life and it seems like the needle never moves. I’m not advocating for my plan (which is to basically check out) but I’m just so damned tired, it’s about all I can do.
	9:57am Billybob: ↳ newton @9:47 When you said "never treat them as deplorables or garbage", you touched on one of the big reasons Trump one. When such hateful words came from the likes of Obama, Clinton and Biden, many Americans realized where they stood with such leaders. In Trump, they found someone who didn't see them that way.
	9:57am Handy Haversack: ↳ Planet Ø Tyler @9:53 I hear you. But the problem is that THIS is the strategy of capitalism -- keep the workers, the oppressed, divided and angry at each other through the creation of false divides: race, class, culture wars. If we don't make common cause against the actual enemy, the tiny group of capitalists who keep us divided so as to accelerate wealth extraction and take everything -- and do it soon! -- then we're well and truly screwed. Somehow, these barriers have to fall. And I continually think that it comes back to antiracist work. Start there, with capitalism's original strategy of division, and all the other -isms start to fall.
	9:58am three-hour brunch friend: thankful for this show, this station, this space, all your strategizing brains and caring hearts
	9:59am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:57 Read the thing that kevlicki posted, when you're able and feel up to it. Grieving is OK! It is necessary. Give yourself time and space and forgiveness. wagingnonviolence.org...
	9:59am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Billybob @9:57 Oh, I think Trump sees them that way. He just doesn’t let on to it. He “loves” them only because they’lll vote for him, cup his balls, etc.
	9:59am ∫ydniuß: don’t waste your time with that won
	10:01am Peri: Just want to say that my cat loves this part of the show.
	10:03am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "highland birds, birds on a mid may morning" I am totally digging this segment.
	10:03am Ken From Hyde Park: In the third grade, the chant was often "Dish it out but can't take it!"
	10:04am Barney Grubbs: I would like to weigh in in support of the unjustly maligned chipping sparrow.
	10:05am Webhamster Henry: Yma birding along...
	10:06am Reno D: Bring it on home, Yma! Peruvian songbird.
	10:06am Clincher16": ↳ newton @9:47 It's not a bad idea. We moved to a red collar county about 30 miles out of Chicago 30 years ago. As the population grew over those three decades, the county got purpler until eventually, two election cycles ago, Democrats won a majority on the County Board and still hold most local administrative and legislative offices today. It's not exactly "the sticks," but it has been nice to witness the evolution. That said, we did not make THEM deplorable. The fact remains that prejudice and bigotry are real and society will always be vulnerable to it as long as so-called "marginal" communities assert their rightful share in society with all the pride and self-actualization that we all deserve.
	10:06am Phillippe: Morning all
	10:06am Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "taita inty" by "yma sumac" Found this record for $2 at a local place! One bad scratch but otherwise OK!
	10:07am geegee vindaloo: Hey I got out of bed and rode my bike to my studio, that's better than yesterday. Thanks all for being here.
	10:07am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:06 It was among my father's 10" records that my brother snagged...
	10:07am Mr Gee: Hope everyone's doing the best they can! I have a link to a free 30 days on Headspace meditation app if anyone would like!
	10:08am Noir Lover: Recently a Verizon guy came to my apt to fix my internet. South Brooklyn Italian. Union guy. I complained about the Verizon AI chat. He was like “yeah, it’s all about the money”. Together we kvetched about corporations while he fixed my internet. He was like “you’re a good guy, I’m not going to charge you, you pay enough money.” Then he goes on “I’m a liberal guy, I don’t care wtf people do, if they are trans or whatever. But I gotta tell you, I’m voting for Trump.” We were simpatico on the problem, just not the conclusion. But I came away hopeful. Because we basically agreed on the problem. A greed. A corporate greed.
	10:08am Mxter Baba: ↳ kevlicki @9:45 thanks for that!
	10:09am Billybob: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:59 If that's the case (and I see no evidence of it), at least he doesn't say it. He saw a void, and he filled it. That's what elected leaders do. I'm just trying to explain a bit from the other side.
	10:09am Vivian: ↳ Noir Lover @10:08 Did he say why he was voting for T?
	10:11am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Billybob @9:57 So tired of this double-standard. T***p is so full of hate, mocking disabled people, disrespecting women and minorities, but it's the hateful speech from the liberals that's the problem somehow? Doesn't add up.
	10:12am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:06 Nice! I bought that at a store new for _way_ more than two bucks. Good haul.
	10:14am Phillippe: ↳ pot8o @9:37 Uncle Michael does his show from Lawrence, I believe
	10:15am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:11 Exactly this. I saw an article where a guy visited (I think) Montana….went into a store where they were selling t-shirts with the map of the u.s. on them with the text “Fuck You, We’re Full.” Sorry, not cutting people like that any slack.
	10:16am Charles in Chicago: I'm just gonna leave this quote from Schiller ("the german Shalespeare") here and log off, so I don't get sucked into pointless debate. I posted this earlier on Clay's show, but there's a different crowd now so maybe it's OK to repost.
	10:17am Charles in Chicago: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:16 Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield! Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain. Exalted reason, Resplendent daughter of the head divine, Wise foundress of the system of the world, Guide of the stars, who art thou then if thou, Bound to the tail of folly's uncurbed steed, Must, vainly shrieking with the drunken crowd, Eyes open, plunge down headlong in the abyss. Accursed, who striveth after noble ends, And with deliberate wisdom forms his plans! To the fool-king belongs the world. Die Jungfrau von Orleans (The Maid of Orleans) (1801), Act III, sc. vi (as translated by Anna Swanwick)
	10:17am Philip: this show is really doing the trick for me today. Thanks Trouble
	10:17am pot8o: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:15 ignorance and isolation breeds hatred, to isolate them further causes them to radicalize further
	10:18am Jason from Houston: Hey there, friends. Work is silly busy today but just hopping on to say hello and I love you. Locked and listening. Thank you, Trouble.
	10:19am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Charles in Chicago @10:16 Good idea.
	10:19am Michael C St Lou: late hello Trouble and all, TY for the pleasant auditory distractions. Great points all. Capitalism is not sustainable and recent events could hasten the collapse in ways we cannot even imagine yet
	10:19am Billybob: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:57 I like your second paragraph about being "anti-racist". I agree. And one way is to dispense with the DEI stuff. All DEI does is create hierarchies of who's most important. That creates resentment. And then, it doesn't work. It just exacerbates the problem it was designed to solve.
	10:22am Handy Haversack: ↳ Billybob @10:19 Bullshit.
	10:22am newton: calling people stupid is not going to win them over to your side. Nor will it make them realize that they are stupid and want to become smart like you. If you want to win people over you have to treat them as equals, with warmth and empathy. and over time teach them to think, teach them to analyze, teach them some history. If you cant live side by side with them, ugh it sounds like Im advocating some sort of reverse missionary act, then write plays, tv scripts , films that dont exploit them or call them names, but that show their lives and maybe even indirectly show the falsity of some of the basic premises they've been sold and how these large things affect them, and how small things can make a difference. To change their minds you have to move their hearts
	10:24am pot8o: in my eyes, i have empathy for the rank and file trump supporter swabbing the deck, but i have zero for the captains at the helm
	10:27am Billybob: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 Here I am, trying to at least get dialogue going, even agreeing with you on some points, and all you come back with is "bullshit". Maybe you just need to look in the mirror a bit more to see that you may be part of the problem.
	10:27am Trouble: lets try to build empathy here, people. Not agreeing is cool but i really don't want this to devolve into fighting words.
	10:28am Noir Lover: ↳ Vivian @10:09 He thought he speaks to him and people like him. Or recognizes him. Something like that.
	10:28am Handy Haversack: ↳ Trouble @10:27 Sorry, Trouble. I should not respond to bad-faith arguments. You are right.
	10:28am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Song: "how many are one?" by "flock" Good "Music to Get Something Done To" music.
	10:29am disco_nap_: ↳ shilpa @9:37 Hell yes, The Church of Stop Shopping rules!
	10:29am Trouble: for many many moons i have taught in the inner city and I think DEI is vital to advancing EVERYBODY. DEI is not about putting someone who is not qualified into a position just because of their background. DEI is about making sure to pay attention to allllll the candidates not just the people who look like you or sound like you.
	10:30am strangegait: Just stepped into the chat to say that this set is really just the thing I need this morning. Thanks so much Trouble. I'll see myself out.
	10:34am Fredericks: ↳ Honest Bernardo from Argentina @9:21 Thanks for that reminder.
	10:34am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Billybob @10:27 This bigot is just here to troll and gloat - ignore him
	10:36am disco_nap_: ↳ newton @9:47 I personally don't feel at all safe in red areas
	10:37am Billybob: ↳ Trouble @10:29 I agree that that's the way it should be used. But too often, it's just a policy that comes from above, and those in charge of implementing it, simply look at it as a quota system. Joe Biden himself, said that he was going to specifically look for someone who's black and female for the VP position. It didn't seem to work out very well, as we saw on Tuesday.
	10:38am Trouble: i disagree @billybob.
	10:38am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @10:37 she had plenty of issues, being a black woman wasn't one of them
	10:40am Billybob: ↳ pot8o @10:38 I totally agree! Being a black woman was not the problem. That was my point.
	10:40am newton: Time to go! Thanks Trouble for the great healing tunes and positive forum.
	10:41am Vivian: ↳ pot8o @10:38 Right. The issue is we have a electorate that doesn't believe a woman can be President. A smart, fearless woman has to work 5 times as hard as a man.
	10:41am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Trouble @10:27 Good point. The collective WE just got our asses kicked up and down the block. Can we step back for a minute and look at how it all happened. In my case, it's my own isolation - where I live and who I talk to on a daily bases. I suspect in the coming months, lots of us are going do some serious self-examination about how he look at the world around us.
	10:42am listener james from westwood: ↳ Song: "Luukku Yksi" by "Tomutonttu ja Lehtisalo" I want to see a movie for which this was the ending credits. Like whatever the Finnish Buckaroo Banzai would've been back then.
	10:42am HyperDose: Riding the wave!
	10:43am common: ↳ Song: "slave to the rhythm ( ladies and gentlemen)" by "... love this song and video!
	10:44am Harry Corvair: ↳ In other news @9:47 Great pic! Thanks for posting this!
	10:44am hilaryprudy: my takeaway is that for many people in this country the form of government is just not that important...and for many is not working
	10:45am Philip: ohhhhhhhhhh now!!! i haven't heard this track in years!
	10:45am pot8o: ↳ hilaryprudy @10:44 plenty of incumbents have been dethroned worldwide, this was just part of a trend
	10:47am chresti: money money by horace andy (dance hall style) 🔥🔥🔥🔥
	10:47am austin: loving this 1
	10:48am Blacktooth: If you really want to get everyone riled up, talk about how we address addictions to all behaviors that can develop into compulsions (alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, food, screen time) and how money and power are NEVER discussed in those terms....
	10:49am Yes: Trouble reggae sets are it
	10:51am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Morning all. We're fucked.
	10:54am hilaryprudy: ↳ Blacktooth @10:48 that's because those are holy values in thus uber capitalist country...
	10:54am Jason from Houston: ↳ Song: "road to self" by "Kamasi Washington" Soooooo good.
	10:54am Michael C St Lou: and IMHO, some responsibility has to fall on the Biden admin and DOJ slow walking everything for years trying to prove a point to let the voters decide or something and that back fired badly
	10:55am Blacktooth: I'm in 100% agreement with you. We all get to suffer because a bunch of people thought Michael Douglas saying "greed is good" 50 years ago was really cool.
	10:56am three-hour brunch friend: ↳ Yes @10:49 agreed!
	10:57am TDK60: Hi Trouble. Kamasi! It helps. Oh yeah, Fuck Trump.
	10:57am pot8o: ↳ Michael C St Lou @10:54 yeah, merrick garland has blood on his hands
	10:57am Billybob: I believe a woman can be president. Just show me the right one. In '16, during the primaries, I was very impressed with Carly Fiorina. She got a small percentage of Republicans behind her...more, in fact, than some of the male candidates. For whatever reasons, though, she didn't work out.
	10:58am hilaryprudy: some sad truths...humans by nature are greedy and selfish...emulating other ways of being is an uphill battle
	10:58am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @10:57 Hillary would've won had she not been screwed over by the electoral college
	10:58am Ochre Ogre: Hi Trouble!
	10:58am hilaryprudy: and as just evidenced often irrational...
	11:00am Trouble: greed is sold to us by capitalism: "you deserve a break today" has morphed into "you deserve this". It's a form of retail therapy that is prevalent across the spectrum. It's so embedded that it's hard to notice anymore.
	11:00am Billybob: ↳ pot8o @10:58 That's a different issue...not having anything to do with her gender.
	11:00am Blacktooth: ↳ hilaryprudy @10:58 I feel you 100% but I'm sticking with being (what I think is) a caring and compassionate person. I'm doing my best not to get down in the dirt and sling mud. Which is, of course, difficult to resist at times.... Keep going...
	11:02am pot8o: ↳ Billybob @11:00 yeah, more of a lament more than anything i didn't like her at all but she was better than trump
	11:02am hilaryprudy: ↳ Blacktooth @11:00 yep, can't imagine joining the party of hate
	11:02am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:35 Hi Handy! Ive been resisting Amazon for many yrs, even the most minimal shopping at Whole Foods after the takeover.
	11:04am Fredericks: ↳ Billybob @9:57 Oh, but he does. He just lies about his affection Check who he hangs out with.
	11:04am disco_nap_: Just found out that for the first time in history, the Senate will vote to block US weapons being sent to Israel. We all need to contact our Senators now through November 13th to help make it happen. Here is a link to receive a phone call on the number you provide and be patched through to your Senator. You will see a script once you are connected. www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org...
	11:04am listener james from westwood: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:02 The final time I went into a WF, it felt so forbidding and sterile . . . the last thing a place touting "natural" food ought to vibe like. More like an operating theater.
	11:04am Bjorn Be: Heyyy look at the bright side, Russians survive (though not all) and some select few even thrive under the rule of a crazy person and his oligarchs. You're in more or less the same boat now..(Trump/Musk/Bezos..etc..)Sadly it will affect the rest of the world as well.
	11:04am pot8o: ↳ Song: "go to hell" by "nina simone" bought the original lp this is from for $2 at a thrift shop, been cherishing it ever since
	11:05am hilaryprudy: thanks so much for playing Nina, trouble. We are all going to need some kind of spiritual sustenance over the next four years...if we survive..
	11:05am Meesalikeu: this is what we get for not restoring the fairness doctrine in political broadcasting that ronald reagan destroyed. you can just say unchallenged lies over and over again like a clown in all media until the masses believe you.
	11:05am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "go to hell" by "nina simone" his might be the #1 song on WFMU this week
	11:05am chresti: go to hell by nina simone (the essential nina simone) 💥💥💥💥
	11:06am hilaryprudy: ↳ unpopularfred @11:05 Hitler's also had many mentions...
	11:08am Handy Haversack: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:02 I can't even remember the last time I Amazoned. I think it has to be ten years now!
	11:08am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Look, the bullshit is already starting. There are no fine points to debate. America did this to itself, and it started with Reagan.
	11:09am Charles in Chicago: ↳ newton @10:22 The thing is, I've given up on winning people over to my side and I'm going to call out stupidity and evil when I see it. I'm also going to take a break from the comments boards for a while. Not good for my blood pressure. I don't want anyone to think anything has happened to me ... Fredericks, Handy, other friends here ... if you or anyone wants to contact me you can reach me through the listener contact page. I'm fine but just disengaging for a while. Bye for now!
	11:09am northguineahills: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:08 i remember the last time i did jason & the argonauts!
	11:10am northguineahills: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 feel fine charles, we're all hanging in there!
	11:10am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: The gloating on social media -- men yelling "Your body, MY choice..." Nah, I will continue to call stupid stupid and evil evil.
	11:10am love2laf: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Take care Charles, you'll be missed, but you have to do what is best for you.
	11:11am Ochre Ogre: ↳ listener james from westwood @11:04 Yeah, I feel ya. So many of small natural food places in my NYC neighb shut down.
	11:11am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Posi vibes, old chum.
	11:13am Meesalikeu: troubs — i just emailed you for brody&jordan carnegie tix lady — fingers crossed and thx
	11:14am Handy Haversack: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 I know how to find you, Charles. Take good care of yourself!
	11:14am listener james from westwood: Fulop sent me (bc I'm a Bergen County Democratic Committee drone) a birthday card last year. Problem was, it was 6 months off; it arrived with the Christmas/winter cards. That tells me all I need to know about a Fulop governorship.
	11:14am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @10:51 Horrified to think of the vile fkers that will be in his close circle, bannon, roger stone, s. miller...
	11:15am The Butterman: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:41 Franco! I already got and started reading “living with the dead”! Love it right away!
	11:15am Picante Mint: Really appreciating the thoughtful discussions on the message board (as usual) this morning, thanks and I hope everyone is doing okay.
	11:16am Meesalikeu: @handy — i take you don’t live in bf staten island lol. amazon is life. but seriously we are laying off it as much as possible.
	11:16am Noir Lover: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:08 Agree, but Bill Clinton moved the Dems to the center-right on many issues like deregulation, privatization, globalization and the cutting of social programs. By moving the Dems to the center it allowed to GOP to move further right.
	11:17am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Picante Mint @11:15 I'm alternating with despair, anger and hopefulness. Working on adjusting the ratios.
	11:17am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:08 Probably. I agree with what you said yesterday about Democrats bringing a dead fish to a gun fight. My social circle is resolutely a bunch of yabbering blue coats. Do I look beyond them for an unwanted reality check? Never.
	11:18am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And honestly at this point let the Red states reap what they sow. Yeah, the Dems running on common sense with a side of social issues alienated a lot of really stupid people. Yes I said the S word. People who have no idea how markets work, no idea how female reproduction works, crappy schools, and zero intellectual capacity. But nah, it's Evil Bad Immigrants Eating Cats that are making their kids gay or something. They think prices are high now....wait until produce rots in the fields because there's nobody to pick it. Get used to getting sick a lot more when we have zero food safety standards. And guess what, all the shit at WalMart is no longer going to be cheap because....news flash....tariffs are added to the cost of the goods and borne by the consumer.
	11:19am listener james from westwood: ↳ Noir Lover @11:16 Yup. Still remember his admin giving us that telecom reform act and Gramm-Leach-Bliley, which killed FDR-era financial reforms.
	11:19am Picante Mint: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:17 I'm with you there.
	11:20am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And guess what? Y'know that Faux News is based in NYC....and the people who work there don't send their kids to Billy Jack Bob's School of Bible Thumping and Snake Handling. They wouldn't wipe the shit off of their shoes with the average Trump voter.
	11:22am pot8o: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:17 channel that anger and despair into action and use the hope as motivation a bright future will come, we just need to fight for it
	11:22am Billybob: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:10 That didn't happen. That's not even the issue re abortion, for the anti-abortion people. It's about whether/when it's a life. It's not about some sort of misogyny. You just want it to be that.
	11:23am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: People with money will always have access to medical care and a somewhat safer food supply. Smart people will get vaccinated. And anyone not wanting to live around vast numbers of stupid, heavily armed people will leave, which means a lot of professionals will take their services with them.
	11:23am chresti: School of bible thumping
	11:23am chresti: ⭐️⭐️⭐️
	11:23am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:18 For sure. Dumb shits ran with the ball this time around. I live on the Western blue edge, and you live on the preeminent island. Will you or I eat shit and die? Most likely not, but still...
	11:24am Trouble: since most anti-choice states allow death penalty killings, I also disagree with that thought idea. And since several women have most recently died while miscarrying after being rejected from a hospital, that also says it's about controlling women's bodies, and nothing more. An act of sex is not a baby
	11:26am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Billybob @11:22 NO it's always been about control. I've talked to men who think that women start to show at 5 weeks, and we somehow magically know when they're pregnant. In America, you need permission beforehand to take organs from a dead body, but you want half of the population to be on permanent gestation standby? Women are already dying in red states because doctors are afraid to intervene in cases of miscarriage. Rape victims are being forced to carry to term. And women are being harassed more already; go read any social media feed not run by a white male.
	11:28am Picante Mint: It's 100% about controlling women. After the decision was knocked back to the states, conservatives jumped on trying to ban IVF, contraceptives, abstinence only sex ed, etc.
	11:29am Billybob: ↳ Trouble @11:24 Well, people on death row, by nature of their crime, have stated they support the death penalty. A fetus has no say in the matter. That said, I'm not against abortion. But that's for pragmatic reasons, not moral ones.
	11:30am Ohio Listener: You are wasting your time trying to reason with this bozo, he just comes on here to aggravate people, he was doing it yesterday on Wake too
	11:30am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Billybob @11:29 Hot take: You don't get a say in what other people do with their bodies. Would you be OK with getting a random knock on the door and being told that by law, you have to give blood/a lung/kidney to save the life of someone ALREADY HERE and actuall post-born? Also reality check time. Go read this: www.threads.net...
	11:30am Handy Haversack: Can we please stop enabling this troll? No one here is going to convince them of anything. Not in this forum, not through a chat. If they cannot understand systems of oppression or ethics of care, we are not going to effect that understanding here. Just ignore it. Maybe it has a parade or something to go it.
	11:31am Ochre Ogre: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:59 He said something like, I don't care about you I just want your vote. Months ago at a speech of a Christian group he claimed, "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."
	11:31am Trouble: thank you @ handy for being the voice of reason. i am done here
	11:33am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 Well said - let the trolls fight among themselves
	11:33am WoodsOfMaine: Handy is always the voice of reason. Except for when he’s not.
	11:33am Yes: popping in to say this mountain movers is very nice
	11:34am Noir Lover: ↳ listener james from westwood @11:19 Telecom Act of '96 was a travesty. Wild guess but are you an admirer of Lina Khan. If so welcome to the club. I didn't know it was a club, but it kind of is.
	11:34am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Billybob @11:29 I'll just take a gander here, and say you probably never got someone pregnant who wasn't your wife. Well let me tell you something smart guy, it's massively inconvenient for both parties involved.
	11:34am newton: ↳ Charles in Chicago @11:09 Not saying you cant call out stupid or evil, necessary distinctions that have to be made daily. I am saying that if you want to bring people who voted with the majority on tuesday over to our side, calling them names will not make them see the light. The problem is entrenched way deeper that that. Not everyone has to live in the trenches to fight the war either, or rather than war metaphors it might be more productive to characterize as education sharing. A terribly long term plan, but I dont see another way to bring people around. I am horrified by the results two days ago. I get that for today anger and name calling may be cathartic salves, just thinking that in the long term a strategy for overcoming this intractable ignorance has to be tractable education, which will require some empathy. But in case anyone misunderstands that my long term goal idea is weakness or sympathizing, the right wing nut jobs that are taking over all branches of our government and are bent on undermining all forms of decency, discourse, and freedoms that should be not only obvious but totally entrenched in the constitution, These people need to be stopped, confronted daily, and ultimately replaced.
	11:34am WoodsOfMaine: Lunch: a breakfast burrito. I’m such a rebel.
	11:35am common: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:30 good call, handy
	11:35am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:33 Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
	11:35am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:35 Heh.
	11:36am TDK60: ↳ Song: "know" by "nick drake" I never realized till now that that guitar riff Drake is playing is identical to a signature one John Lee Hooker used. Coincidence?
	11:36am WoodsOfMaine: @Trouble: Great show, thanks. You only added four things to my bandcamp wishlist. “Only”
	11:37am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And let me add that a lot of the Red Hat Kool Aid Krew is gonna be very sad when their Medicare gets cut. And guess what, US manufacturing jobs are not coming back. And FWIW I have no desire to bring "those who voted for the Orange Anus over to our side." I want them disempowered. I am not here to debate them. There is no debating with people who want to destroy you.
	11:37am Franco Twinkie: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:34 HAHA!!!
	11:37am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:36 Never noticed, do you know which Hooker song?
	11:38am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:37 Yeah, don’t leave us hangin’!!!
	11:39am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:37 Howdy Ochre O. That's what I meant by "signature." Used a lot. But I can't name one now.
	11:40am Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:37 ...and are taking in polluted air & water, suffering from measles, etc.
	11:41am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, and the Troubled gathered here. Many of you give me hope, and that is no small thing. Thank you all.
	11:42am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:39 K, I'll have to investigate, sure I have the Hooker song as well as several of N Drake LPs.
	11:43am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @11:40 Yup. Let em. Honestly at this point the NE and PNW should just start withholding Federal tax money in escrow. Red states are also the biggest welfare recipients and use much more than they put in. They wanna be free of "Big Gubmint?" Cool. At this point America is a shit sandwich with almost ALL of the industry, smarts, and taxable income on the two coasts.
	11:44am disco_nap_: Thank you so much, Trouble and Troublemakers. I'm finally functional today. It took a few hours of lying around and feeling depressed. The music and the chat helped immensely. I'm ready to resist.
	11:44am pot8o: im gonna try to get the fuck out of iowa the instant i can, Minnesota or Illinois seem like good options
	11:44am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:42 O.O. I just went a searchin' JLH stuff on Youtube. I have some LPs too. I could research but not enough time to do now.
	11:44am WoodsOfMaine: Trolling might be interesting on Pseu’s show. She doesn’t appear to be in the mood.
	11:45am disco_nap_: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:43 I LOVE that plan honestly. I'm exhausted and infuriated by them holding the rest of us back from a decent quality of life.
	11:46am pot8o: ↳ pot8o @11:44 thinking about moving to germany too
	11:46am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:44 I pity the fool who trolls on Pseu! I mean, a little at any rate.
	11:46am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Trump's entire base hates facts. They deny climate change, how vaccines work, how freaking women's bodies work, how economies work, etc etc etc. Let the Yalliban rot in its own stew. But disempower them from getting their shit all over thinking people.
	11:46am Ochre Ogre: ↳ TDK60 @11:44 K, let you know the result, if I come to one.
	11:46am The Butterman: Thanks, Trouble and fine listeners. We knew the board would be like this today. A lot more civilized than I thought! Love to all.
	11:47am common: ↳ pot8o @11:46 let me know what you find out!
	11:47am Yes: Beautiful
	11:47am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ pot8o @11:46 It's not as easy as just picking up and showing up. You need a visa, a work permit, etc etc etc.
	11:47am TDK60: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:46 Vice versa, OO. Just a busy day here at the cassette castle.
	11:47am Noir Lover: Whenever I'm down on America I think, "yeah but John Coltrane is American."
	11:47am Reno D: Thanks, disco nap, I did that.
	11:48am pot8o: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:47 yeah, this is way way way down the road, probably when im in my 30s
	11:48am maria.collins18@aol.com: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:10 That DOUCHEBAG is Nick Fuentes. Trumpers even hate him.
	11:49am Reno D: I don’t know how to make an “in reply to…” response. Help?
	11:50am rf: ↳ Song: "my pains are very big" by "nina de la puebla" this was great. thanks DJ trouble
	11:50am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Reno D @11:49 Click on be talk bubble next to the comment
	11:50am Mike in Montreal: ↳ Reno D @11:49 click the little speach balloon of the comment you want to respond to
	11:50am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "stuck" by "grouper" Not sure I’ve ever listened to these people before but this is nice.
	11:51am Handy Haversack: ↳ Reno D @11:49 Not sure you can do it from the app.
	11:51am Ochre Ogre: I tell youse this, trying to rationalize with trumpers, is like talking to a born again Baptist, Ive had the experiences. The wall is Thick!
	11:51am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: And, let me add: It's not a question of when the country goes full fascist -- we're clearly there. We had our Germany 1932 Test run and we failed as a nation. If Blue enclaves start to fall, I'm outta here. I love NYC. It's my home and I'm from here. But I DO have an EU passport and citizenship. I speak German. If Social Security is gonna get cut I may as well retire at 62 and not wait for a larger payout, and GTFO. Lots of nice quiet retirement communities up by the North Sea. You know what else I'll be taking with me? An Ivy League education and my tax dollars. I'm already pricing apartments in Berlin and Helsinki.
	11:52am pot8o: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:51 you can plant those seeds, it's up to them to water them and make them grow
	11:52am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:51 You can always say something like "@Reno D @ 11:49" like we did in the old days.
	11:52am Marley P. Dogg: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:52 Ahh - simpler times
	11:53am disco_nap_: ↳ Reno D @11:47 Not sure what this is in response to but you’re welcome
	11:53am Bjorn Be: As far as i know there is no way to log in to the Woof Moo app. But would it not be better to change that so that trolls would not be able to post without logging in?
	11:54am Handy Haversack: Many thanks, Trouble! Troubled times indeed. But glad to have this community to weather them with. Take good care of yourselves, all.
	11:54am Yes: infinite thanks, trouble and all
	11:54am northguineahills: thanks again, trouble. always a pleasure!
	11:54am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:51 You can…you just have to long-press on the comment
	11:54am Handy Haversack: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @11:51 You'll then have to adopt me, K8, and the monsters.
	11:54am listener james from westwood: Thanks kindly, Trouble, for the soothing sounds!
	11:54am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Thanks for the show, Trouble!
	11:55am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	11:55am Marley P. Dogg: Thanks Trouble - keep fighting the good fight friends
	11:55am prof.fuzz: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:54 and the threemoons house will need a house band (cough cough)
	11:55am bradford: Thanks as always, Trouble.
	11:55am Benoni: I have to admit, one of the things that annoys me the most is that Trump is babbling idiot. I thought democracy could be eroded by a General McArthur type who just came back from winning a huge war. Nah, it only took eggs rising a few dollars for voters to look past hiring a convicted felon to be their leader. Btw, the stock market—even big oil stocks performed far better under Biden than Trump—and that was in defiance of far higher interest rates. Biden and the Fed are responsible for the lowest inflation and best market appreciation of any country. Its not even close. But eggs...
	11:55am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:55am Fernanda Zamudio-Suarez: Thank you, Trouble! Love you!
	11:56am Mike in Montreal: Thanks Trouble, great show.
	11:56am Santos L. Halper: Thanks for the healing tunes Trouble. Stay strong and kind people
	11:56am TDK60: Merci, Trouble. To revive a slogan from Paris '68: "La lutte continue." The struggle continues.
	11:56am Handy Haversack: ↳ prof.fuzz @11:55 And we can finally get your cough looked at!
	11:56am Ochre Ogre: ↳ pot8o @11:52 Thanks Trouble! Peace Troublers
	11:56am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. One day at a time forever.
	11:56am prof.fuzz: ↳ Handy Haversack @11:56 with universal healthcare!
	11:57am Ochre Ogre: ↳ Ochre Ogre @11:56 *Oops
	11:57am Handy Haversack: I waved at Trouble a couple of times from the WFMU dollar tables but never made it over to your table!
	11:57am Barney Grubbs: great to meet you at the fair, and thanks as always for the tunes.
	11:57am Marley P. Dogg: Assuming the thought police don’t ban the record fair
	11:57am wimpy: Haven’t conservatives been in control in Germany for at least a decade?
	11:58am Franco Twinkie: Thanks Trouble. Your show is a great place to debate, surrounded by those who just want to get their boogie on.
	11:58am StringOFperils: Thank you! upload.wikimedia.org...
	11:58am pot8o: ↳ wimpy @11:57 nah, the socialist party has been in power for a few years now
	11:59am TDK60: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:58 Boogie on, Angeleno. Hee.
	11:59am Trouble: thanks for listening! see you next week
	11:59am wimpy: Also isn’t Germany the country where your landlord doesn’t have to provide flooring
	11:59am Reno D: ↳ disco_nap_ @11:53 Called two senators. And wow, I'm the only one listening via a phone? Handy's right, you can't do "in reply to" with the app. Opened my laptop to send this.
	11:59am Phillippe: Thanks trouble
	12:00pm three-hour brunch friend: thanks Trouble and i hope you have a restorative museum visit today
	12:00pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: ↳ wimpy @11:57 their conservatives are our centrists
	12:05pm Ochre Ogre: ↳ Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜 @12:00 Oh snap I missed this one @ 11:20!!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 7, 2024

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