WFMU: This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 14, 2024

Listener comments!
	♥ 9:00am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	♥ 9:00am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	♥ 9:00am common: hello hello.
	♥ 9:01am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning Trouble and all.
	♥ 9:02am pot8o: terry riley!!!
	♥ 9:02am Zip7: Good morning Troubled modernists! Hope you all are doing as well as can be, given the circumstances
	♥ 9:02am chresti: morning trouble and troubled!
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: good morning thursday people!
	♥ 9:03am StringOFperils: Very Eva Hesse, that piece. Same time too. Okay I'll collapse back into my private world now....
	♥ 9:04am captain beef fart: Grey mernin' in Baltimore. Hope we get some rain today.
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all. More functional than last Thursday but no less vexed.
	♥ 9:07am pot8o: ecm 10 years before ecm
	♥ 9:07am MarginWalker in Baltimore: G'mornin all
	♥ 9:08am Bob Tankenstein: Good morning Trouble and all
	♥ 9:08am Zip7: Bad fires here in the Hudson Valley. A friend was driving up Highway 17A Tuesday evening and saw a guy in a pickup truck with Trump stickers throw a lit cigarette out the window. Kind of a metaphor for the country as a whole.
	9:09am gabriel: that john cale piece was awesome
	♥ 9:09am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble. Good to know that "teacher's" are still needed! mastodon.world...
	♥ 9:10am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "hane no hayashi de" by "ryuichi sakamoto" at first I thought this was an early '80's Peer Gabriel track I somehow didn't know
	♥ 9:13am Michael C St Lou: hello Trouble and Modern World seekers and creators everywhere!🥰❤
	♥ 9:13am tom tom the pipers son: thanks for this terry riley trouble...greetings all....eva hesse a good take on artwork...in high school suspended plastic tarp above classroom and poured water in untill it broke... had a cool teacher
	9:15am gabriel: few weeks back a driver in front of me flicked a cig out their window and i had my windows open--it bounced off the inside of my passenger side door and thankfully fell outside.
	♥ 9:15am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and residents of the modern world!
	♥ 9:15am strangegait: morning everybody
	♥ 9:16am Trouble: @ ken from hyde park: good one!
	♥ 9:16am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @9:09 teachers and nurses are #1 and 2 most important professions in society IMHO and I always take the opportunity to gush on a client as such
	♥ 9:17am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Zip7 @9:08 I was sorry to hear of fires in Inwood Hill Park, the wildest part left on the Manhattan shore.
	♥ 9:17am strangegait: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:16 amen
	♥ 9:18am StringOFperils: Church of Anthrax period New York was so different. That's when John was living down on Ludlow Street. I think he was sharing a place with Garland Jeffreys back then. There was a lot of really old stuff down there.
	♥ 9:19am Tome: ↳ Trouble @9:16 good and happy mornings and to all only good things !<>!
	9:19am No Big Thing in Chicago: ↳ Song: "try" by "dawn richard and spencher zahn" Good morning Trouble and all. This is such a wonderful album.
	♥ 9:19am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:16 Incredibly disturbing that during the pandemic we had a crew of nurses here objecting to vaccine mandates.
	♥ 9:22am Zip7: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:17 Inwood Park was/is such a lovely place. Up here they've been bringing in big Chinook helicopters to drop water. Hard to mobilize firefighters as there are few roads and lots of boulders, which impedes equipment
	♥ 9:23am WoodsOfMaine: I finally got around to creating a spreadsheet to track my Bandcamp wishlist. We’ll see next year if Trouble or Fabio wins the “damage award"
	♥ 9:24am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:23 "You seemed all set for a comfortable retirement. What happened?" "I bought too many cool rekkids."
	9:27am Gordon: gorgeous
	♥ 9:27am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:24 Exactly!! Ha. Though I’ll also use it when I review the list. Sometimes I just toss things in there while, say, reading The Wire…and then I listen weeks later and I’m like “WTF is this?!!"
	♥ 9:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:19 talking recently to someone recently the rejection of vaccines has, in some instances, a racial component, because of the vaccines being looked at through a different historical lens...ie tuskegee
	9:28am Philip: OHHHHHHHHH I haven't heard this in years!!! EBTG!!! thx
	♥ 9:28am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 not different, specific
	♥ 9:29am katie: Lovely melancholic Thursday.
	9:29am LT: Thank you for this — singing along ❤️
	♥ 9:31am strangegait: Today's image makes the neat-freak in me nervous. A big green spill waiting to happen! :)
	♥ 9:32am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 That I understand. White nurses in rural Maine…nah.
	♥ 9:32am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:23 Can you export from Bandcamp?
	9:32am Marie in Chicago: Good morning, Trouble, and All
	♥ 9:33am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:32 I thought about that but the wishlist was not very long. Would be kind of nice to have the whole collection in a spreadsheet.
	♥ 9:33am StringOFperils: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:32 Kinda makes you think about seeking medical assistance out of state.
	♥ 9:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 and also suspicion of vaccines by those who are usually last served being prompted to be first served as far as vaccines durring pandemic gotta split...be back
	♥ 9:34am WoodsOfMaine: BREAKING NEWS: The Onion just purchased Infowars.
	♥ 9:34am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:33 I like exporting my collection from Discogs, but I haven't noticed a way to do so from Bandcamp -- and the two have very different wishlists.
	♥ 9:35am Picante Mint: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:34 This was fun news to wake up to. lol
	♥ 9:36am strangegait: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:34 I hope they got it for a dollar.
	♥ 9:36am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Picante Mint @9:35 It honestly read like an Onion headline.
	9:36am gabriel: who does that??? turn the damn faucet off when you brush, thats insane.
	♥ 9:36am Michael C St Lou: who washes their jeep(wrangler)?
	♥ 9:36am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:34 This is a little over my head. github.com...
	♥ 9:37am Spikey BXL: KY is self-conscious about being dry
	9:37am gabriel: my neighbor washes his jeep. never seen mud on it. and why do jeeps have four doors now?
	9:38am Slaboch: Wow! I had this Hardy album on repeat yesterday! Sounding great as always! Hope you are doing well.
	♥ 9:38am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:36 That’s funny. I was just looking at that very page. Not over my head, but I’m not sure I want to do it. It feels like programming. Icky. I’m done with that stuff!
	♥ 9:38am Spikey BXL: ↳ Song: "suzanne" by "Francoise Hardy" Tu nous manques, Françoise. Repose en paix
	♥ 9:39am Buzzportnoy: ↳ Song: "suzanne" by "Francoise Hardy" youtu.be... Other vibes by Graeme Allwright
	♥ 9:39am Trouble: good morning @slaboch!
	♥ 9:39am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:38 Maybe this? bcw-converter.netlify.app
	♥ 9:40am strangegait: ↳ Song: "bul ma miin" by "orchestra baobab" Oooh I love this song!
	♥ 9:40am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:39 I know somebody whose kid is a software person at Bandcamp. I should put a bug in his ear about this.
	9:41am ?: Always liked the idea of following Cohen's "Suzanne " with Nesmith's "Joanne"...but that's just me
	9:41am Michael from down Richmond way: Man I LOVE Orchestra Baobab!
	♥ 9:41am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:39 I’ll give that a try. Nothing to install!
	9:42am mattjickmarker: I believe that "Water Composition" is in the Dia museum in Beacon. I just saw it!!!! Woo Hoo
	♥ 9:43am StringOFperils: I like these new cloyingly positive trolls. They're refreshing.
	9:44am Toothgrinder Tom: @Michael from down Richmond Way you and me both!
	♥ 9:47am chresti: I never wash the Buick I drive. I feel so rugged
	♥ 9:48am Michael C St Lou: ↳ chresti @9:47 😂
	♥ 9:48am Handy Haversack: ↳ chresti @9:47 Our car is extremely unwashed. Some might even call it disreputable.
	♥ 9:48am Mxter Baba: Good morning, Trouble, Troubled, Troublers, and rugged chrestikinskins!
	♥ 9:48am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:40 YES!
	♥ 9:48am Trouble: Yes @mattjickmarkert: senga nengudi has a few pieces at the dia beacon. yeah!!! i need to get up there...
	♥ 9:49am Franco Twinkie: Good Morning Troubled people.
	♥ 9:49am chresti: Good morning Mixter Babakins!
	9:49am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "YouGotALight" by "Frederic D Oberland/ Gregory Da... Sounds so good. It's like they're creating a little world
	9:50am Marie in Chicago: ↳ chresti @9:47 hee hee hee! Hi Chresti!
	9:50am NYsoul living in another place: Oh man this music “ you got alight”. Is incredible. I get so much from each DJ but Trouble is 👑⭐️👑
	9:50am riley: Good day all from early morning rain Asheville!
	♥ 9:50am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:49 Pranko!
	♥ 9:51am chresti: Hi Marie!
	♥ 9:51am Franco Twinkie: Hi Baba!
	9:51am Mister Dobalina: Digging’ the show.
	♥ 9:51am WoodsOfMaine: I never wash the pickup.
	9:53am still b/p: ↳ chresti @9:47 Look, she's got a spray-can to give it more personalized ruggedness. www.jumpingfrog.com...
	♥ 9:55am Franco Twinkie: ↳ still b/p @9:53 The Buick in question was my mothers. I'm sure she would be appalled to see how I keep her car.
	9:56am traven: ↳ still b/p @9:53 That's great advertising artwork.The 1920s was really noted for that.
	♥ 9:57am chresti: ↳ still b/p @9:53 Thassa nice one!
	♥ 9:58am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:50 Baba!
	♥ 9:59am Mxter Baba: ↳ Song: "Ne Nabra ( feat chakib bouzidi)" by "Dandara" this gets me moving!
	9:59am HyperDose: It's raining zen!
	♥ 10:00am Mxter Baba: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:58 howdy hey, MCSLkins!
	♥ 10:00am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:55 I hope that Buick at least has some handsome ventiports: www.macsmotorcitygarage.com...
	10:02am Fred and Alan: ↳ Marie in Chicago @9:49 Marie in Chicago love from Fred and Alan we're on Pseus show today
	10:04am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): i missed this show
	♥ 10:05am Rabbitsmokinintheferns: Just waiting for a cat to come in and see what's up.
	♥ 10:05am Webhamster Henry: I like these birds! Very talkative!
	♥ 10:05am StringOFperils: ↳ Zip7 @10:00 I used to get a ride with a friend to summer school (oy vey, math) in one of those. Sweet car. All 4000 pounds of it.
	10:05am still b/p: Vintage print ads of many kinds, but sometimes mainly the auto ads across the decades with their art and cultural/marketplace zeitgeist and practiced drivel, carry me far and easy down the rabbit hole. @Zip7 -- the four-ventiport people bully and scoff at the three-ventiport people.
	10:06am Lixiviated Life: Went to the Gagosian yesterday and saw some brite and lovely work by Jade Fadojutimi I left there feeling happy. :)
	♥ 10:07am Mxter Baba: 7 o’clock disco is totally my speed. If I got on a plane right now, I might make it!
	♥ 10:07am listener james from westwood: Read something once about Nam June Paik's TV and VCR art, where they're running into trouble sourcing the parts to replace those that wear out, and whether it's less the original art as a result, or if it might need to be turned off, per se.
	♥ 10:08am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:00 It's a great car to drive up to San Francisco in. So comfortable. Good on gas too! It has a transverse six engine. I don't think my father was thinking of the Bob Dylan song From a Buick Six when he bought it, but who knows?
	♥ 10:10am Franco Twinkie: I've always wanted to ride a skateboard down the corkscrew ramp at the Guggenheim.
	10:11am Mister Dobalina: Bombastic
	♥ 10:12am tom tom the pipers son: hello all..
	♥ 10:12am Franco Twinkie: Good morning Tom Tom.
	♥ 10:13am tom tom the pipers son: hey franco...
	10:13am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "The Feeling I Get From You" by "Jamie XX" love this. Would be so good in a movie
	♥ 10:13am StringOFperils: ↳ listener james from westwood @10:07 There's an old, good, story about a big Robert Rauschenberg piece starting to fall apart in the head offices of one of the major US auto-makers, after only two of three years. They approached him with the idea of $ compensation for this. He responded by pointing out that everyone spends a small fortune on each of their own products and they start decomposing from day one. Why are they any different? No. No money back. No repairs. You bought it. Take care of it. Ha ha. I loved that.
	10:14am still b/p: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:10 Marking blank canvases on one side with a long-handled brush and pouring paint into the open well on the other side for the whoooooole ride down!
	♥ 10:15am Franco Twinkie: YES!
	♥ 10:15am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	♥ 10:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:13 art is not a "forever" thing...neither are we
	10:16am Dances with Moomins: Hello to the modern world's troubled , savage souls soothed by Trouble's sounds.
	♥ 10:16am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:15 Something I'm more grateful for every day. Both of those things.
	10:18am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Fred and Alan @10:02 Oh, hello Fred and Alan! Thanks for letting me know. I'm looking forward to it. Love ya'!
	♥ 10:19am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:16 hopefully bad art doesn't hasten the other...
	10:19am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:15 I saw the Richard Serra work at the David Zwirner gallery yesterday and I gotta say, THAT work may not be forever, but it certainly feels to me that it will be.
	10:19am Marie in Chicago: Special hello to Franco!
	♥ 10:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:19 that may be the effect he was after...but it's an illusion...just a heavy one
	10:21am Mister Dobalina: Who does pay the bills ¿
	10:22am Toothgrinder Tom: It’s supposed to rain next week, I believe.
	10:23am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "who pays the bills?" by "bhajan bhoy" I think I first heard bhajan bhoy on Creamo's show, which I truly miss
	♥ 10:23am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:19 I've certainly been involved in the manufacture of bad 'art', and it probably has...it was either that or live in a tree
	♥ 10:24am tom tom the pipers son: @trouble: you're hitting all the appropriate notes for today just like bhajan buoy
	10:26am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:20 I am always in awe of his work. cdn.sanity.io...
	♥ 10:27am Mxter Baba: clicky starring this whole episode, I gotta hear all of this again!!!
	♥ 10:27am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:19 Years ago I saw a Richard Serra show at The Louver Gallery in Venice, where he jack hammered holes into the concrete floor and stuck in what looked like the wreckage from Pacific Ocean Park just up the beach. I walked away thinking how the gallery owner was having fits and pulling his hair out the whole time. I mean, the gallery was empty as is typical for this type of art. I hope they got some great photos.
	10:27am Mister Dobalina: That Jiffy Way egg scale is where it’s at.
	♥ 10:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:23 i've also been the handservant to bad art....and keep myself reminded of a book of art criticism titled "what the butler saw"
	♥ 10:28am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Marie in Chicago @10:19 Hey Marie!
	♥ 10:28am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:27 artists are such rascals!
	♥ 10:29am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:28 Or in the case of Richard Serra, a big pain in the ass.
	♥ 10:29am Webhamster Henry: ↳ listener james from westwood @10:07 That would just be the Nam June Paik work of Theseus.
	♥ 10:29am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 Hah! It is a bit like being the dogsbody in a whorehouse. Sigh.
	10:30am Marie in Chicago: I went out with one of R. Serra's assistants for a little while, was in one of Serra's smaller studios once
	♥ 10:30am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:26 my favorite piece of his without being snarky was when i saw one of his curved ellipses dismantled and packed on two flatbed trucks on eleventh ave
	♥ 10:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:29 right
	♥ 10:31am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 I saw those! Scared the hell out of me.
	♥ 10:32am Zip7: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 Tilted Arc?
	10:32am still b/p: Dadaists had first considered "Ain't We Rascals" for the name of their movement.
	♥ 10:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:27 i really like that but it doesn't sound like him, unless it was from the time he was throwing molten lead around.(????????)
	♥ 10:33am StringOFperils: That's a lot of COR 10 steel to get liquified by. They are scary.
	♥ 10:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 no
	♥ 10:34am Franco Twinkie: Chris Burden was also a great one for wrecking buildings.
	♥ 10:35am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:34 Gordon Matta Clark. You know his work?
	10:36am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 One of my favorites was Reverse Curve 2005/19 gagosian.com...
	♥ 10:36am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:34 he was a huge influence on many of the performance art students when I was at SFAI. Violent art.
	♥ 10:37am StringOFperils: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:36 Human body tolerance
	♥ 10:37am Mxter Baba: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:36 one opening night, in the Diego Rivera Gallery, I nearly got my brains smashed by a tossed television. I was surprised when the artist approached me to apologize the next day!
	♥ 10:38am pot8o: there was this one artist, his name escapes me, where he lived in a room for a month where people could control a paintball gun and shoot him with it
	♥ 10:39am Mxter Baba: and then there was the time all the students received, in our mail cubbies, a written apology from the guy who accidentally blew up the roof. he signed his letter, “Your leader and mentor"
	♥ 10:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:31 in addition to being squooshed .... the think that's fearful about them is their representation of institutional power.... those ellipses might as well be the labyrinth in crete with a minotaur and the audience is perseus(?) but maybe this is too flattering a metaphor
	♥ 10:40am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @10:35 Yes, He was friends with my favorite panting teacher. My teacher told me about his Xmas card one year. He deep fried a Christmas tree.
	♥ 10:41am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:40 just toss a little ground up ornament and powdered sugar, and it’s a tasty snack!
	♥ 10:41am Zip7: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:37 One of my most horrifying memories is trying to pull a window unit out of a seventh-floor apartment window. I watched it fall to the ground, followed by a puff of dirt -- like a Roadrunner cartoon.
	♥ 10:41am maurer: ↳ pot8o @10:38 sounds like something vito acconci or chris burden would do...
	♥ 10:42am Mxter Baba: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 eeek!
	♥ 10:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ pot8o @10:38 there's teiching hsieh (sp) who did that and other endurance art ...but no paintball!!
	♥ 10:42am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:40 I liked what he did to buildings. Not sure what it meant, but it felt right. Laurie Anderson said he knew all these arcane things about underground architecture in New York City. Tunnels to secret places. He'd take people on little hikes.
	♥ 10:42am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Richard Serra toss one of his studio assistants out the window once?
	♥ 10:43am Mxter Baba: ↳ maurer @10:41 ah, Vito was another big influence. our teacher made sure we knew all of the most transgressive art pieces that had ever happened
	♥ 10:43am pot8o: found it, domestic tension by wafaa bilal en.wikipedia.org...
	10:43am Mister Dobalina: Another hot tune.
	10:44am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:39 another favorite at Dia... Torqued Ellipse, Richard Serra, Corten Steel, 1996
	♥ 10:44am strangegait: ↳ Song: "kimbera" by ""bwaluka" founders band" really really nice
	♥ 10:45am Mxter Baba: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:43 that performance art teacher had once won “Worst Act” on the Gong Show
	♥ 10:46am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:45 Every time The Gong Show comes up all I remember is the time every contestant sang “Feelings”….which then reminds me of when Dave the Spazz played “Murder Most Foul” for three straight hours.
	♥ 10:46am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:44 i don't know if you caught my drift...but i don't really like what serra did....:)
	♥ 10:47am StringOFperils: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:46 The chat room on that Spazz show was a rich goldmine of angst.
	♥ 10:47am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @10:42 I liked his chopped up house. My painting teacher told me he was a beast - just got a chainsaw and went to town!
	10:48am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 I have had great fears of just that @)
	10:48am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:46 im cool with that. we can still be friends :)
	10:48am Mister Dobalina: This is what I like to call, GooseBump music. !!!
	♥ 10:49am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:43 dan graham told me that vito acconci would call him up and say "dan, give my some ideas, i need ideas"
	♥ 10:49am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:47 It was beautiful though. A kind of 'land art' in the middle of a metropolis. Another way of thinking about THAT landscape. Too bad he passed away so young.
	10:49am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "kokoro" by "Sababa 5 &. Yurkika" so good it's like medicine
	♥ 10:50am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Song: "kokoro" by "Sababa 5 &. Yurkika" ⭐🥰❤
	♥ 10:50am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ StringOFperils @10:47 Oh man, it was so danged funny.
	♥ 10:51am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:49 the split house...redolent of robert venturi theories and gehry's home
	10:51am zydeco Phil: Killer set Trouble!!!!!
	10:52am Adrian in London: Hello Trouble and everyone. Listening in while cooking, which is appropriate cos this track is also cooking!
	10:52am still b/p: Just tried to find a magazine cartoon (captionless) recalled from childhood of stereotypically dressed artist enthusiastically running straight at a large canvas, with examples of similarly created art around him in the studio. Didn't find it, but selections from a collection we had in the house, Best Cartoons of 1964, are instantly recognized and still permanently remembered so many decades after looking at them multiple times back then -- some come to mind randomly in my days.
	10:54am Andres: ↳ still b/p @10:52 Don Martin from Mad?
	10:54am ?: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:42 He probably could've entitled it "Defenestration", like that outdoor art exhibit (RIP) in San Francisco, which was one of my fave things to take visitors to, when I lived there. There's pics of it online if you're interested.
	♥ 10:54am tom tom the pipers son: i like the idea of putting a "minotaur" in a sera piece
	♥ 10:55am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:51 Creates a place for experience to happen. takes the world into your body, and your body out into the world. I prefer this to gallery and museum/mausoleum situations, where art has been sentenced and executed.
	♥ 10:56am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:49 A guy I worked with for many years reconstructed the Vito Acconci piece at The Whitney, where he filled up the atrium with old tires.
	♥ 10:56am WoodsOfMaine: I have a book where a woman travels all across the u.s. visiting outdoor art installations. That’s how I discovered the lightning fields.
	10:57am still b/p: ↳ Andres @10:54 No -- right up his alley oeuvre, but not him. (Alley Oeuvre was a whole 'nother daily strip about profoundly influential caveman artist.)
	♥ 10:58am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:55 yes and a subset of the matt clark work is flaneur-ship and a relation to the city
	♥ 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:56 nice work vito RIP...
	♥ 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: matta clark
	♥ 11:00am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "savana" by "pedro santos" Still holding out hope for my dream job of "guy who does the bird calls on exotica records."
	11:00am Gerry from Miami: Hello to you, TROUBLE! Slight favor to ask. I am currently listening to PJ'S first-ever show over on the Rock 'n' Soul stream. He says he has a playlist and an ACCU comments board. But all the listener gets is the audio stream. All the visual elements are leftovers from OWL SUN'S overnight show. Any way you can hook up Paul's audience to his playlist and comments? Maybe there's a tech or an engineer hanging out at the station today. Thank you so much.
	♥ 11:01am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:58 Yeah, I feel like that is a more genuine relationship between a person and things. The rest has become marketing that has co-opted pretty much all the rest of the human sphere. Who knows, maybe I'm religious....O_O
	♥ 11:04am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @11:01 I've totally lost track of was people are doing in the art world, but I suspect the return to painting has more to do with moving units than anything else.
	11:04am Andres: ↳ Gerry from Miami @11:00 You can find it here, Gerry: https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/145504
	♥ 11:04am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:01 the question is...is whether or not the flaneur has been "priced out" of that experience of the city being that there's a dunkin donuts on every corner
	♥ 11:06am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 The Flaneur can still float, even in this medium, the world after the world.
	♥ 11:07am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 I paint…but have not moved any units, probably from complete lack of trying.
	♥ 11:08am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Heyo.
	11:09am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, the music is outstanding as always, and turned my day around. Lurking quietly today, so just a quick wave to all the Modern World friends.
	11:09am Mister Dobalina: Hi TresLunas.
	♥ 11:10am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:06 Actually, that's what the flaneur was doing when Baudelaire was around: wandering in a mind-boggling modernity, just taking it in
	♥ 11:11am lpfnrobin: Nothing better than DJ Touble - hey ya!
	♥ 11:11am Franco Twinkie: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:07 As I do - or did. My sister is constantly trying to get my ass in gear to do something. "You need money, and I don't want to deal with this stuff when you die!'
	♥ 11:11am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Still trying to shake off the cobwebs and the blahs.
	♥ 11:11am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:06 u huh...but the experience is so different from even 20 yrs ago...the built environment has a "sameness" and is all mapped out
	♥ 11:13am Zip7: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 Yeah, the United States of Generica
	♥ 11:13am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 Yet fascinating if not put through a filter of criticism. There's still poetry in putative disaster, as perverse as that may seem
	11:13am still b/p: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:07 Good friend of mine paints, used to often paint the woods of Maine, in fact, and among the varied difficulties of sticking with it was the need to push and market and move units. Made him stiffen and gnash and retreat.
	♥ 11:14am 2/3 of the Perrin Family: had to jump on here just to say thank you. Knowing that at least I can look forward to Thursdays with Trouble makes life better and our situation more bearable.
	♥ 11:14am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ still b/p @11:13 Kind of why I never tried it. As far as I ever got was watching a video on how to package and ship via PirateShip.
	♥ 11:15am lpfnrobin: ↳ Zip7 @11:13 🤣 - repeatables encodeded .7z
	11:15am Andres: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 My kid is in school and chose painting as their specialty. I’ll ask what’s motivating them and their classmates.
	♥ 11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:10 not anti flaneur...but we are not in modernity any more which was more "heterogenized", based on difference than our age which is corporatized and homogenized
	♥ 11:18am StringOFperils: True. I DO believe that we are AFTER modernity, and this, all of it, is something new. I just wish everyone could look at it that way, and stop looking in the rear-view mirror when addressing its issues.
	♥ 11:19am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:18 Possibly way too f***ing late already.
	♥ 11:20am Zip7: ↳ StringOFperils @11:18 Some interesting writings on post-postmodernism, or "Metamodernism" or whatever it's called.
	♥ 11:20am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:15 I'm curious about what they said.
	♥ 11:23am StringOFperils: And it's great that children can still opt for painting, or creative writing, and such. That is hasn't yet been totally excised from curricula by fascist tech-bros.
	11:23am Mister Dobalina: Nice transition.
	♥ 11:23am tom tom the pipers son: i remember in a colege art history text book, there was an illustration from a late medieval travel book where an illustration of a single cityscape was used for illustrating different cities...i don't remember what the explanation was...but we seem have that situation in reality now
	♥ 11:28am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:23 yes great....:/...?
	♥ 11:29am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 They didn't get to see the actual locations, everything being far away and only imagined, while we don't perceive the actual dislocations, everything being close and not different from anywhere else.
	11:29am still b/p: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 It is argued today that the Dark Ages have a distorted and mistaken rep. But if that's when ClipArt was conceived and embraced, the period name holds!
	♥ 11:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ still b/p @11:29 yes that was argued as far back as the 1920's by historian henri pirenne
	♥ 11:31am StringOFperils: The 'dark ages' were full of brilliant light. Largely a 19th century chauvinistic term
	♥ 11:33am StringOFperils: Also a term referring to western European history, when it excluded by omission, the entirety of the rest of the world
	♥ 11:34am tom tom the pipers son: "medieval cities" by henri pirenne... very enjoyable book
	♥ 11:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:33 ironically, during 'dark ages', europe was connected to other parts of the world esp north africa
	11:38am Miketp: Hello! Eve ESSEX HITTING THE SPOT.GLORIOUS SOUNDS TO LIVE WITH..BE WELL TROUBLE & THE TROUBLESOME.
	♥ 11:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 you can even pin racism to term "dark ages"...considering when the term was coined at a high point of colonialism
	11:40am Marie in Chicago: Hey Trouble, your show is just so fantastic today. I woulda said hi at the record fair but I did a gummy and got self-conscious and like a big dummy. I came by twice but you were busy.
	11:41am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:56 That is a road trip I would love
	11:42am Avspuk: ↳ Song: "soft cage featuring luke moldof" by "eve essex" Low-ish? Low-esque? Clickystar in any case. Thanks
	11:42am Hi from Holland: ↳ Song: "silently invisibly" by "Caroline Shaw & So Percus... Aloha! Caroline Shaw is this seasons "Composer in Residence" at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam.
	♥ 11:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 the other parts of the world that the medieval world had contact with, were colonizied in the 19th century and therefore couldn't be thought about as equal players
	♥ 11:44am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:15 Painting feels good. Like a of of thigs that hit the pleasure receptors of sentient beings, painting clouds the logical need to do other things with your time. Thus the enduring caricature of the painter as a clueless beatnik standing in a puddle of his own creation. I can live with that as a descriptor. Allow your child that luxury.
	11:45am Hi from Holland: ↳ Hi from Holland @11:42 Didn't know they had a new album with CS, the first one " Let The Soil Play Its Simple Part" is lovely.
	♥ 11:47am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "flying at night" by "laurie anderson" I saw an interview with her about this record. Man, I could listen to Laurie Anderson talk all day long.
	♥ 11:47am Mick: ↳ Song: "segredos vegetais" by "mia doi todd" Checking in very late (as is lately usual for me) to thank you for this marvelous, nourishing show, and particularly for this gorgeous version of "segredos vegetais", new to me.
	♥ 11:48am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:44 Being a human being is not at all about meaningless work on meaningless alienating things by electric light 24 hours per day, eating processed crap on the run, and worrying and worrying about a future that can only bear the imprint of the anxiety drenched emptiness of a present where no one IS present. or, as Mr. Natural put it, "It don't mean sheee-it!"
	♥ 11:49am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Marie in Chicago @11:41 The book is “Spiral Jetta” by Erin Hogan.
	♥ 11:50am Yes: dang, nancy lesh is good
	♥ 11:50am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @11:48 True that. Too many people learn that when it's to it's to late to change.
	11:50am Andres: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:44 Grandparents on both sides paint so that might’ve had some influence. And limiting devices and having a ton of art supplies to use their time more wisely.
	11:51am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Hi from Holland @11:45 I love that title and idea. I just heard discussion of the importance of soil and the huge part it is of the natural world but how unappreciated it is in many respects. I like to say, soil ain't dirt!
	11:51am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:49 oh, thank you!
	11:53am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Andres @11:50 I'm hoping to devote more time to painting for the next few years as I limit my news/media intake
	♥ 11:53am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:50 Devices are poison to the soul. With that, I'm going outside to exercise.
	♥ 11:54am WoodsOfMaine: Lovely show Trouble. We all need as many moments of Zen as we can get.
	♥ 11:55am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Marie in Chicago @11:53 Good idea. Same here. And I’m not limiting…I’m locking out.
	♥ 11:55am StringOFperils: I became a painter because my dad worked in a paper mill where he swiped reams of nice bond paper and lumberjack crayons and tape (in the spirit of angry working-class payback). I played with that stuff more than most other things.
	♥ 11:55am Zip7: Thanks so much, Trouble! A delight, as always
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for listening today!
	♥ 11:56am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	♥ 11:56am common: many thanks, trouble, as always.
	11:56am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:55 Good for you @)
	♥ 11:56am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:55 ...but I learned, painfully, at a young age, that the walls were off limits
	♥ 11:56am strangegait: thanks -- be well everybody
	♥ 11:57am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Enjoy the day, without fire.
	11:57am Marie in Chicago: Merci, beaucoup, Trouble!
	♥ 11:57am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble...merci boo coo
	11:57am Adrian in London: Thanks for a lovely show, I really enjoyed it.
	♥ 11:57am StringOFperils: Thank you, Trouble! Thank you everybody!
	♥ 11:58am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Thanks for the amazing show!!
	♥ 11:58am gauche knee: Late greetings Trouble & fellow troubled world builders! Lots of news/content to set our nervous systems ablaze🔥& turn us hopeless. “The key to taking effective action in a *rump world is to avoid perpetuating the autocrat’s goals of fear, isolation, exhaustion and disorientation.” - Daniel Hunter 🍂please take rest , care, & get you some joy & share with others🍂thanks for the show , trouble!
	♥ 11:58am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:58am Andres: Thanks! Take care!
	♥ 11:59am Handy Haversack: Thanks, Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 14, 2024

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A viking ship appears on the horizon, a likeness of Alice Coltrane carved into its bow. Rare birds flock together to sing Francoise Hardy as soul hits. A sunset of blips and bleeps fills the air.

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Thu. Feb 27th, 9am - Noon: Jennifer Higgie (More info...)
This is the Modern World with Trouble welcomes Jennifer Higgie, author of The Other Side, a Story of Women in Art and the Spiritual World. Jennifer Higgie is an Australian writer living in London. She wrote fabulously for Frieze Magazine for over 2 decades, is a curator and hosted the podcast Bow Down. In honor of The Other Side coming out in paperback in the US, Jennifer and trouble will discuss women artists, seances and spiritualism.

November 14, 2024: song without words in D

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by Senga Nengudi, “Water Composition (green),” 1969–70/2023

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	New	Approx. start time
john cale & terry riley	the hall of mirrors in the palace of versailles	church of anthrax	Wounded Bird Records		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
ryuichi sakamoto	hane no hayashi de	ongaku zukan	we want sounds		0:07:33 (Pop-up)
dawn richard and spencher zahn	try	quiet in a world full of noise	merge records	*	0:13:31 (Pop-up)
Ekuka Morris Sirkiti	Opwodo Dako Pi Kunyu Omogo	Te-Kwaro Alango Ekuka	Nyege Nyege Tapes	*	0:18:26 (Pop-up)
trust fund	one calendar year "one calendar year" by "trust fund"	Has It Been Awhile?	Tapete Records	*	0:26:40 (Pop-up)
everything but the girl	each and every one demos	eden (special edition)	rhino		0:26:42 (Pop-up)

Francoise Hardy	suzanne "suzanne" by "Francoise Hardy"	Comment Te Dire Adieu	virgin		0:35:45 (Pop-up)
orchestra baobab	bul ma miin "bul ma miin" by "orchestra baobab"	specialist in all styles	world circuit/nonesuch		0:38:38 (Pop-up)
Frederic D Oberland/ Gregory Dargetn / tony Elieh .Wassin Halal	YouGotALight	Sihr	sub rosa	*	0:44:32 (Pop-up)
Cortex	prelude a "go round" "prelude a "go round"" by "Cortex"	tropeau bleu	trad vibe records		0:51:15 (Pop-up)
Dandara	Ne Nabra ( feat chakib bouzidi)	& chakib	wonder wheel recordings	*	0:55:08 (Pop-up)
dusty springfield	breakin up a happy home	cameo	dunhill records		0:58:34 (Pop-up)

Jamie XX	The Feeling I Get From You	In Waves	young	*	1:09:52 (Pop-up)
porta d'Oro	notte e giorno "notte e giorno" by "porta d'Oro"	cosi dentro come fuori	maple death	*	1:13:23 (Pop-up)
Pearl & the Oysters	4D "4D" by "Pearl & the Oysters"	Planet Pearl	stones throw	*	1:14:14 (Pop-up)
bhajan bhoy	who pays the bills? "who pays the bills?" by "bhajan bhoy"	peace the frequencies/ healing frequencies ( the WFMU + WGXC sessions 2023	feeding tube	*	1:17:31 (Pop-up)
Intercommunal Free Dance Music Orchestra	Mar Jo Cantar No Fabia	L'Inter Communal	Souffle Continu Records	*	1:23:32 (Pop-up)
tribo massahi	walk by the jungle/ fareua	tribo massahi estrelando embaixador	goma gringa.com		1:33:05 (Pop-up)
"bwaluka" founders band	kimbera "kimbera" by ""bwaluka" founders band"	kampire presents a dancefloor in ndola	strut	*	1:40:44 (Pop-up)
Sister Rosetta Tharpe	walk all over god's heaven	gospel train vol II	lection		1:45:48 (Pop-up)
Sababa 5 &. Yurkika	kokoro "kokoro" by "Sababa 5 &. Yurkika"	Kokoro	batov	*	1:47:42 (Pop-up)
cell/borg	sideways "sideways" by "cell/borg"	smash blips	dot dash sounds	*	1:52:03 (Pop-up)
Donnie Elbert	where did our love go	the holland-dozier-holland songbook	kent soul	*	1:54:44 (Pop-up)
pedro santos	savana "savana" by "pedro santos"	krishnanda	CBS		1:57:54 (Pop-up)

greg foat	before the storm "before the storm" by "greg foat"	symphonie pacifique	strut		2:05:02 (Pop-up)
mia doi todd	segredos vegetais "segredos vegetais" by "mia doi todd"	Floresta	city zen		2:12:13 (Pop-up)
julia-sophie	telephone "telephone" by "julia-sophie"	forgive too slow	Ba Da Bing Records	*	2:17:05 (Pop-up)
vincent taeger	notre soleil est mort	OK crooner	born bad	*	2:21:56 (Pop-up)
Angela Munoz	bloom "bloom" by "Angela Munoz"	Descanso	stones throw	*	2:25:36 (Pop-up)
akira kosemura & lawrence english	thela	_selene	Temporary Residence Ltd.	*	2:29:31 (Pop-up)
eve essex	soft cage featuring luke moldof	the fabulous truth	soap library	*	2:34:43 (Pop-up)
Caroline Shaw & So Percussion	silently invisibly	Rectangles and Circumstance	nonesuch	*	2:38:49 (Pop-up)
laurie anderson	flying at night "flying at night" by "laurie anderson"	amelia	nonesuch	*	2:43:00 (Pop-up)
nancy lesh	dhrupad in jhaptal "dhrupad in jhaptal" by "nancy lesh"	cello	india archive music		2:46:42 (Pop-up)
dora morelenbaum	nem te procurar "nem te procurar" by "dora morelenbaum"	pique	mr bongo	*	2:51:51 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	♥ 9:00am Handy Haversack: Bright Thursday greetings, Trouble and all the Troubled.
	♥ 9:00am pot8o: morning troublemakers!
	♥ 9:00am common: hello hello.
	♥ 9:01am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good morning Trouble and all.
	♥ 9:02am pot8o: terry riley!!!
	♥ 9:02am Zip7: Good morning Troubled modernists! Hope you all are doing as well as can be, given the circumstances
	♥ 9:02am chresti: morning trouble and troubled!
	♥ 9:03am Trouble: good morning thursday people!
	♥ 9:03am StringOFperils: Very Eva Hesse, that piece. Same time too. Okay I'll collapse back into my private world now....
	♥ 9:04am captain beef fart: Grey mernin' in Baltimore. Hope we get some rain today.
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Trouble and all. More functional than last Thursday but no less vexed.
	♥ 9:07am pot8o: ecm 10 years before ecm
	♥ 9:07am MarginWalker in Baltimore: G'mornin all
	♥ 9:08am Bob Tankenstein: Good morning Trouble and all
	♥ 9:08am Zip7: Bad fires here in the Hudson Valley. A friend was driving up Highway 17A Tuesday evening and saw a guy in a pickup truck with Trump stickers throw a lit cigarette out the window. Kind of a metaphor for the country as a whole.
	9:09am gabriel: that john cale piece was awesome
	♥ 9:09am Ken From Hyde Park: Good morning, Trouble. Good to know that "teacher's" are still needed! mastodon.world...
	♥ 9:10am unpopularfred: ↳ Song: "hane no hayashi de" by "ryuichi sakamoto" at first I thought this was an early '80's Peer Gabriel track I somehow didn't know
	♥ 9:13am Michael C St Lou: hello Trouble and Modern World seekers and creators everywhere!🥰❤
	♥ 9:13am tom tom the pipers son: thanks for this terry riley trouble...greetings all....eva hesse a good take on artwork...in high school suspended plastic tarp above classroom and poured water in untill it broke... had a cool teacher
	9:15am gabriel: few weeks back a driver in front of me flicked a cig out their window and i had my windows open--it bounced off the inside of my passenger side door and thankfully fell outside.
	♥ 9:15am Webhamster Henry: Hi Trouble and residents of the modern world!
	♥ 9:15am strangegait: morning everybody
	♥ 9:16am Trouble: @ ken from hyde park: good one!
	♥ 9:16am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @9:09 teachers and nurses are #1 and 2 most important professions in society IMHO and I always take the opportunity to gush on a client as such
	♥ 9:17am Webhamster Henry: ↳ Zip7 @9:08 I was sorry to hear of fires in Inwood Hill Park, the wildest part left on the Manhattan shore.
	♥ 9:17am strangegait: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:16 amen
	♥ 9:18am StringOFperils: Church of Anthrax period New York was so different. That's when John was living down on Ludlow Street. I think he was sharing a place with Garland Jeffreys back then. There was a lot of really old stuff down there.
	♥ 9:19am Tome: ↳ Trouble @9:16 good and happy mornings and to all only good things !<>!
	9:19am No Big Thing in Chicago: ↳ Song: "try" by "dawn richard and spencher zahn" Good morning Trouble and all. This is such a wonderful album.
	♥ 9:19am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:16 Incredibly disturbing that during the pandemic we had a crew of nurses here objecting to vaccine mandates.
	♥ 9:22am Zip7: ↳ Webhamster Henry @9:17 Inwood Park was/is such a lovely place. Up here they've been bringing in big Chinook helicopters to drop water. Hard to mobilize firefighters as there are few roads and lots of boulders, which impedes equipment
	♥ 9:23am WoodsOfMaine: I finally got around to creating a spreadsheet to track my Bandcamp wishlist. We’ll see next year if Trouble or Fabio wins the “damage award"
	♥ 9:24am Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:23 "You seemed all set for a comfortable retirement. What happened?" "I bought too many cool rekkids."
	9:27am Gordon: gorgeous
	♥ 9:27am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @9:24 Exactly!! Ha. Though I’ll also use it when I review the list. Sometimes I just toss things in there while, say, reading The Wire…and then I listen weeks later and I’m like “WTF is this?!!"
	♥ 9:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:19 talking recently to someone recently the rejection of vaccines has, in some instances, a racial component, because of the vaccines being looked at through a different historical lens...ie tuskegee
	9:28am Philip: OHHHHHHHHH I haven't heard this in years!!! EBTG!!! thx
	♥ 9:28am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 not different, specific
	♥ 9:29am katie: Lovely melancholic Thursday.
	9:29am LT: Thank you for this — singing along ❤️
	♥ 9:31am strangegait: Today's image makes the neat-freak in me nervous. A big green spill waiting to happen! :)
	♥ 9:32am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 That I understand. White nurses in rural Maine…nah.
	♥ 9:32am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:23 Can you export from Bandcamp?
	9:32am Marie in Chicago: Good morning, Trouble, and All
	♥ 9:33am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:32 I thought about that but the wishlist was not very long. Would be kind of nice to have the whole collection in a spreadsheet.
	♥ 9:33am StringOFperils: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:32 Kinda makes you think about seeking medical assistance out of state.
	♥ 9:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:27 and also suspicion of vaccines by those who are usually last served being prompted to be first served as far as vaccines durring pandemic gotta split...be back
	♥ 9:34am WoodsOfMaine: BREAKING NEWS: The Onion just purchased Infowars.
	♥ 9:34am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:33 I like exporting my collection from Discogs, but I haven't noticed a way to do so from Bandcamp -- and the two have very different wishlists.
	♥ 9:35am Picante Mint: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:34 This was fun news to wake up to. lol
	♥ 9:36am strangegait: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:34 I hope they got it for a dollar.
	♥ 9:36am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Picante Mint @9:35 It honestly read like an Onion headline.
	9:36am gabriel: who does that??? turn the damn faucet off when you brush, thats insane.
	♥ 9:36am Michael C St Lou: who washes their jeep(wrangler)?
	♥ 9:36am Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:34 This is a little over my head. github.com...
	♥ 9:37am Spikey BXL: KY is self-conscious about being dry
	9:37am gabriel: my neighbor washes his jeep. never seen mud on it. and why do jeeps have four doors now?
	9:38am Slaboch: Wow! I had this Hardy album on repeat yesterday! Sounding great as always! Hope you are doing well.
	♥ 9:38am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:36 That’s funny. I was just looking at that very page. Not over my head, but I’m not sure I want to do it. It feels like programming. Icky. I’m done with that stuff!
	♥ 9:38am Spikey BXL: ↳ Song: "suzanne" by "Francoise Hardy" Tu nous manques, Françoise. Repose en paix
	♥ 9:39am Buzzportnoy: ↳ Song: "suzanne" by "Francoise Hardy" youtu.be... Other vibes by Graeme Allwright
	♥ 9:39am Trouble: good morning @slaboch!
	♥ 9:39am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:38 Maybe this? bcw-converter.netlify.app
	♥ 9:40am strangegait: ↳ Song: "bul ma miin" by "orchestra baobab" Oooh I love this song!
	♥ 9:40am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:39 I know somebody whose kid is a software person at Bandcamp. I should put a bug in his ear about this.
	9:41am ?: Always liked the idea of following Cohen's "Suzanne " with Nesmith's "Joanne"...but that's just me
	9:41am Michael from down Richmond way: Man I LOVE Orchestra Baobab!
	♥ 9:41am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:39 I’ll give that a try. Nothing to install!
	9:42am mattjickmarker: I believe that "Water Composition" is in the Dia museum in Beacon. I just saw it!!!! Woo Hoo
	♥ 9:43am StringOFperils: I like these new cloyingly positive trolls. They're refreshing.
	9:44am Toothgrinder Tom: @Michael from down Richmond Way you and me both!
	♥ 9:47am chresti: I never wash the Buick I drive. I feel so rugged
	♥ 9:48am Michael C St Lou: ↳ chresti @9:47 😂
	♥ 9:48am Handy Haversack: ↳ chresti @9:47 Our car is extremely unwashed. Some might even call it disreputable.
	♥ 9:48am Mxter Baba: Good morning, Trouble, Troubled, Troublers, and rugged chrestikinskins!
	♥ 9:48am Handy Haversack: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @9:40 YES!
	♥ 9:48am Trouble: Yes @mattjickmarkert: senga nengudi has a few pieces at the dia beacon. yeah!!! i need to get up there...
	♥ 9:49am Franco Twinkie: Good Morning Troubled people.
	♥ 9:49am chresti: Good morning Mixter Babakins!
	9:49am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "YouGotALight" by "Frederic D Oberland/ Gregory Da... Sounds so good. It's like they're creating a little world
	9:50am Marie in Chicago: ↳ chresti @9:47 hee hee hee! Hi Chresti!
	9:50am NYsoul living in another place: Oh man this music “ you got alight”. Is incredible. I get so much from each DJ but Trouble is 👑⭐️👑
	9:50am riley: Good day all from early morning rain Asheville!
	♥ 9:50am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:49 Pranko!
	♥ 9:51am chresti: Hi Marie!
	♥ 9:51am Franco Twinkie: Hi Baba!
	9:51am Mister Dobalina: Digging’ the show.
	♥ 9:51am WoodsOfMaine: I never wash the pickup.
	9:53am still b/p: ↳ chresti @9:47 Look, she's got a spray-can to give it more personalized ruggedness. www.jumpingfrog.com...
	♥ 9:55am Franco Twinkie: ↳ still b/p @9:53 The Buick in question was my mothers. I'm sure she would be appalled to see how I keep her car.
	9:56am traven: ↳ still b/p @9:53 That's great advertising artwork.The 1920s was really noted for that.
	♥ 9:57am chresti: ↳ still b/p @9:53 Thassa nice one!
	♥ 9:58am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Mxter Baba @9:50 Baba!
	♥ 9:59am Mxter Baba: ↳ Song: "Ne Nabra ( feat chakib bouzidi)" by "Dandara" this gets me moving!
	9:59am HyperDose: It's raining zen!
	♥ 10:00am Mxter Baba: ↳ Michael C St Lou @9:58 howdy hey, MCSLkins!
	♥ 10:00am Zip7: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:55 I hope that Buick at least has some handsome ventiports: www.macsmotorcitygarage.com...
	10:02am Fred and Alan: ↳ Marie in Chicago @9:49 Marie in Chicago love from Fred and Alan we're on Pseus show today
	10:04am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): i missed this show
	♥ 10:05am Rabbitsmokinintheferns: Just waiting for a cat to come in and see what's up.
	♥ 10:05am Webhamster Henry: I like these birds! Very talkative!
	♥ 10:05am StringOFperils: ↳ Zip7 @10:00 I used to get a ride with a friend to summer school (oy vey, math) in one of those. Sweet car. All 4000 pounds of it.
	10:05am still b/p: Vintage print ads of many kinds, but sometimes mainly the auto ads across the decades with their art and cultural/marketplace zeitgeist and practiced drivel, carry me far and easy down the rabbit hole. @Zip7 -- the four-ventiport people bully and scoff at the three-ventiport people.
	10:06am Lixiviated Life: Went to the Gagosian yesterday and saw some brite and lovely work by Jade Fadojutimi I left there feeling happy. :)
	♥ 10:07am Mxter Baba: 7 o’clock disco is totally my speed. If I got on a plane right now, I might make it!
	♥ 10:07am listener james from westwood: Read something once about Nam June Paik's TV and VCR art, where they're running into trouble sourcing the parts to replace those that wear out, and whether it's less the original art as a result, or if it might need to be turned off, per se.
	♥ 10:08am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:00 It's a great car to drive up to San Francisco in. So comfortable. Good on gas too! It has a transverse six engine. I don't think my father was thinking of the Bob Dylan song From a Buick Six when he bought it, but who knows?
	♥ 10:10am Franco Twinkie: I've always wanted to ride a skateboard down the corkscrew ramp at the Guggenheim.
	10:11am Mister Dobalina: Bombastic
	♥ 10:12am tom tom the pipers son: hello all..
	♥ 10:12am Franco Twinkie: Good morning Tom Tom.
	♥ 10:13am tom tom the pipers son: hey franco...
	10:13am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "The Feeling I Get From You" by "Jamie XX" love this. Would be so good in a movie
	♥ 10:13am StringOFperils: ↳ listener james from westwood @10:07 There's an old, good, story about a big Robert Rauschenberg piece starting to fall apart in the head offices of one of the major US auto-makers, after only two of three years. They approached him with the idea of $ compensation for this. He responded by pointing out that everyone spends a small fortune on each of their own products and they start decomposing from day one. Why are they any different? No. No money back. No repairs. You bought it. Take care of it. Ha ha. I loved that.
	10:14am still b/p: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:10 Marking blank canvases on one side with a long-handled brush and pouring paint into the open well on the other side for the whoooooole ride down!
	♥ 10:15am Franco Twinkie: YES!
	♥ 10:15am Jason from Houston: Hey there.
	♥ 10:15am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:13 art is not a "forever" thing...neither are we
	10:16am Dances with Moomins: Hello to the modern world's troubled , savage souls soothed by Trouble's sounds.
	♥ 10:16am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:15 Something I'm more grateful for every day. Both of those things.
	10:18am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Fred and Alan @10:02 Oh, hello Fred and Alan! Thanks for letting me know. I'm looking forward to it. Love ya'!
	♥ 10:19am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:16 hopefully bad art doesn't hasten the other...
	10:19am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:15 I saw the Richard Serra work at the David Zwirner gallery yesterday and I gotta say, THAT work may not be forever, but it certainly feels to me that it will be.
	10:19am Marie in Chicago: Special hello to Franco!
	♥ 10:20am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:19 that may be the effect he was after...but it's an illusion...just a heavy one
	10:21am Mister Dobalina: Who does pay the bills ¿
	10:22am Toothgrinder Tom: It’s supposed to rain next week, I believe.
	10:23am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Song: "who pays the bills?" by "bhajan bhoy" I think I first heard bhajan bhoy on Creamo's show, which I truly miss
	♥ 10:23am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:19 I've certainly been involved in the manufacture of bad 'art', and it probably has...it was either that or live in a tree
	♥ 10:24am tom tom the pipers son: @trouble: you're hitting all the appropriate notes for today just like bhajan buoy
	10:26am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:20 I am always in awe of his work. cdn.sanity.io...
	♥ 10:27am Mxter Baba: clicky starring this whole episode, I gotta hear all of this again!!!
	♥ 10:27am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:19 Years ago I saw a Richard Serra show at The Louver Gallery in Venice, where he jack hammered holes into the concrete floor and stuck in what looked like the wreckage from Pacific Ocean Park just up the beach. I walked away thinking how the gallery owner was having fits and pulling his hair out the whole time. I mean, the gallery was empty as is typical for this type of art. I hope they got some great photos.
	10:27am Mister Dobalina: That Jiffy Way egg scale is where it’s at.
	♥ 10:27am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:23 i've also been the handservant to bad art....and keep myself reminded of a book of art criticism titled "what the butler saw"
	♥ 10:28am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Marie in Chicago @10:19 Hey Marie!
	♥ 10:28am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:27 artists are such rascals!
	♥ 10:29am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:28 Or in the case of Richard Serra, a big pain in the ass.
	♥ 10:29am Webhamster Henry: ↳ listener james from westwood @10:07 That would just be the Nam June Paik work of Theseus.
	♥ 10:29am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:27 Hah! It is a bit like being the dogsbody in a whorehouse. Sigh.
	10:30am Marie in Chicago: I went out with one of R. Serra's assistants for a little while, was in one of Serra's smaller studios once
	♥ 10:30am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:26 my favorite piece of his without being snarky was when i saw one of his curved ellipses dismantled and packed on two flatbed trucks on eleventh ave
	♥ 10:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:29 right
	♥ 10:31am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 I saw those! Scared the hell out of me.
	♥ 10:32am Zip7: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 Tilted Arc?
	10:32am still b/p: Dadaists had first considered "Ain't We Rascals" for the name of their movement.
	♥ 10:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:27 i really like that but it doesn't sound like him, unless it was from the time he was throwing molten lead around.(????????)
	♥ 10:33am StringOFperils: That's a lot of COR 10 steel to get liquified by. They are scary.
	♥ 10:33am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Zip7 @10:32 no
	♥ 10:34am Franco Twinkie: Chris Burden was also a great one for wrecking buildings.
	♥ 10:35am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:34 Gordon Matta Clark. You know his work?
	10:36am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:30 One of my favorites was Reverse Curve 2005/19 gagosian.com...
	♥ 10:36am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:34 he was a huge influence on many of the performance art students when I was at SFAI. Violent art.
	♥ 10:37am StringOFperils: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:36 Human body tolerance
	♥ 10:37am Mxter Baba: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:36 one opening night, in the Diego Rivera Gallery, I nearly got my brains smashed by a tossed television. I was surprised when the artist approached me to apologize the next day!
	♥ 10:38am pot8o: there was this one artist, his name escapes me, where he lived in a room for a month where people could control a paintball gun and shoot him with it
	♥ 10:39am Mxter Baba: and then there was the time all the students received, in our mail cubbies, a written apology from the guy who accidentally blew up the roof. he signed his letter, “Your leader and mentor"
	♥ 10:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:31 in addition to being squooshed .... the think that's fearful about them is their representation of institutional power.... those ellipses might as well be the labyrinth in crete with a minotaur and the audience is perseus(?) but maybe this is too flattering a metaphor
	♥ 10:40am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @10:35 Yes, He was friends with my favorite panting teacher. My teacher told me about his Xmas card one year. He deep fried a Christmas tree.
	♥ 10:41am Mxter Baba: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:40 just toss a little ground up ornament and powdered sugar, and it’s a tasty snack!
	♥ 10:41am Zip7: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:37 One of my most horrifying memories is trying to pull a window unit out of a seventh-floor apartment window. I watched it fall to the ground, followed by a puff of dirt -- like a Roadrunner cartoon.
	♥ 10:41am maurer: ↳ pot8o @10:38 sounds like something vito acconci or chris burden would do...
	♥ 10:42am Mxter Baba: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 eeek!
	♥ 10:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ pot8o @10:38 there's teiching hsieh (sp) who did that and other endurance art ...but no paintball!!
	♥ 10:42am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:40 I liked what he did to buildings. Not sure what it meant, but it felt right. Laurie Anderson said he knew all these arcane things about underground architecture in New York City. Tunnels to secret places. He'd take people on little hikes.
	♥ 10:42am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Richard Serra toss one of his studio assistants out the window once?
	♥ 10:43am Mxter Baba: ↳ maurer @10:41 ah, Vito was another big influence. our teacher made sure we knew all of the most transgressive art pieces that had ever happened
	♥ 10:43am pot8o: found it, domestic tension by wafaa bilal en.wikipedia.org...
	10:43am Mister Dobalina: Another hot tune.
	10:44am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:39 another favorite at Dia... Torqued Ellipse, Richard Serra, Corten Steel, 1996
	♥ 10:44am strangegait: ↳ Song: "kimbera" by ""bwaluka" founders band" really really nice
	♥ 10:45am Mxter Baba: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:43 that performance art teacher had once won “Worst Act” on the Gong Show
	♥ 10:46am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:45 Every time The Gong Show comes up all I remember is the time every contestant sang “Feelings”….which then reminds me of when Dave the Spazz played “Murder Most Foul” for three straight hours.
	♥ 10:46am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Lixiviated Life @10:44 i don't know if you caught my drift...but i don't really like what serra did....:)
	♥ 10:47am StringOFperils: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:46 The chat room on that Spazz show was a rich goldmine of angst.
	♥ 10:47am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @10:42 I liked his chopped up house. My painting teacher told me he was a beast - just got a chainsaw and went to town!
	10:48am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Zip7 @10:41 I have had great fears of just that @)
	10:48am Lixiviated Life: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:46 im cool with that. we can still be friends :)
	10:48am Mister Dobalina: This is what I like to call, GooseBump music. !!!
	♥ 10:49am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Mxter Baba @10:43 dan graham told me that vito acconci would call him up and say "dan, give my some ideas, i need ideas"
	♥ 10:49am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:47 It was beautiful though. A kind of 'land art' in the middle of a metropolis. Another way of thinking about THAT landscape. Too bad he passed away so young.
	10:49am bixa (𝘣𝘦𝘦-𝘩𝘢): ↳ Song: "kokoro" by "Sababa 5 &. Yurkika" so good it's like medicine
	♥ 10:50am Michael C St Lou: ↳ Song: "kokoro" by "Sababa 5 &. Yurkika" ⭐🥰❤
	♥ 10:50am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ StringOFperils @10:47 Oh man, it was so danged funny.
	♥ 10:51am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:49 the split house...redolent of robert venturi theories and gehry's home
	10:51am zydeco Phil: Killer set Trouble!!!!!
	10:52am Adrian in London: Hello Trouble and everyone. Listening in while cooking, which is appropriate cos this track is also cooking!
	10:52am still b/p: Just tried to find a magazine cartoon (captionless) recalled from childhood of stereotypically dressed artist enthusiastically running straight at a large canvas, with examples of similarly created art around him in the studio. Didn't find it, but selections from a collection we had in the house, Best Cartoons of 1964, are instantly recognized and still permanently remembered so many decades after looking at them multiple times back then -- some come to mind randomly in my days.
	10:54am Andres: ↳ still b/p @10:52 Don Martin from Mad?
	10:54am ?: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:42 He probably could've entitled it "Defenestration", like that outdoor art exhibit (RIP) in San Francisco, which was one of my fave things to take visitors to, when I lived there. There's pics of it online if you're interested.
	♥ 10:54am tom tom the pipers son: i like the idea of putting a "minotaur" in a sera piece
	♥ 10:55am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:51 Creates a place for experience to happen. takes the world into your body, and your body out into the world. I prefer this to gallery and museum/mausoleum situations, where art has been sentenced and executed.
	♥ 10:56am Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:49 A guy I worked with for many years reconstructed the Vito Acconci piece at The Whitney, where he filled up the atrium with old tires.
	♥ 10:56am WoodsOfMaine: I have a book where a woman travels all across the u.s. visiting outdoor art installations. That’s how I discovered the lightning fields.
	10:57am still b/p: ↳ Andres @10:54 No -- right up his alley oeuvre, but not him. (Alley Oeuvre was a whole 'nother daily strip about profoundly influential caveman artist.)
	♥ 10:58am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @10:55 yes and a subset of the matt clark work is flaneur-ship and a relation to the city
	♥ 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:56 nice work vito RIP...
	♥ 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: matta clark
	♥ 11:00am The Oscar: ↳ Song: "savana" by "pedro santos" Still holding out hope for my dream job of "guy who does the bird calls on exotica records."
	11:00am Gerry from Miami: Hello to you, TROUBLE! Slight favor to ask. I am currently listening to PJ'S first-ever show over on the Rock 'n' Soul stream. He says he has a playlist and an ACCU comments board. But all the listener gets is the audio stream. All the visual elements are leftovers from OWL SUN'S overnight show. Any way you can hook up Paul's audience to his playlist and comments? Maybe there's a tech or an engineer hanging out at the station today. Thank you so much.
	♥ 11:01am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:58 Yeah, I feel like that is a more genuine relationship between a person and things. The rest has become marketing that has co-opted pretty much all the rest of the human sphere. Who knows, maybe I'm religious....O_O
	♥ 11:04am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @11:01 I've totally lost track of was people are doing in the art world, but I suspect the return to painting has more to do with moving units than anything else.
	11:04am Andres: ↳ Gerry from Miami @11:00 You can find it here, Gerry: https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/145504
	♥ 11:04am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:01 the question is...is whether or not the flaneur has been "priced out" of that experience of the city being that there's a dunkin donuts on every corner
	♥ 11:06am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 The Flaneur can still float, even in this medium, the world after the world.
	♥ 11:07am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 I paint…but have not moved any units, probably from complete lack of trying.
	♥ 11:08am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Heyo.
	11:09am love2laf: Thank you Trouble, the music is outstanding as always, and turned my day around. Lurking quietly today, so just a quick wave to all the Modern World friends.
	11:09am Mister Dobalina: Hi TresLunas.
	♥ 11:10am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:06 Actually, that's what the flaneur was doing when Baudelaire was around: wandering in a mind-boggling modernity, just taking it in
	♥ 11:11am lpfnrobin: Nothing better than DJ Touble - hey ya!
	♥ 11:11am Franco Twinkie: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:07 As I do - or did. My sister is constantly trying to get my ass in gear to do something. "You need money, and I don't want to deal with this stuff when you die!'
	♥ 11:11am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Still trying to shake off the cobwebs and the blahs.
	♥ 11:11am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:06 u huh...but the experience is so different from even 20 yrs ago...the built environment has a "sameness" and is all mapped out
	♥ 11:13am Zip7: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 Yeah, the United States of Generica
	♥ 11:13am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:11 Yet fascinating if not put through a filter of criticism. There's still poetry in putative disaster, as perverse as that may seem
	11:13am still b/p: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:07 Good friend of mine paints, used to often paint the woods of Maine, in fact, and among the varied difficulties of sticking with it was the need to push and market and move units. Made him stiffen and gnash and retreat.
	♥ 11:14am 2/3 of the Perrin Family: had to jump on here just to say thank you. Knowing that at least I can look forward to Thursdays with Trouble makes life better and our situation more bearable.
	♥ 11:14am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ still b/p @11:13 Kind of why I never tried it. As far as I ever got was watching a video on how to package and ship via PirateShip.
	♥ 11:15am lpfnrobin: ↳ Zip7 @11:13 🤣 - repeatables encodeded .7z
	11:15am Andres: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:04 My kid is in school and chose painting as their specialty. I’ll ask what’s motivating them and their classmates.
	♥ 11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:10 not anti flaneur...but we are not in modernity any more which was more "heterogenized", based on difference than our age which is corporatized and homogenized
	♥ 11:18am StringOFperils: True. I DO believe that we are AFTER modernity, and this, all of it, is something new. I just wish everyone could look at it that way, and stop looking in the rear-view mirror when addressing its issues.
	♥ 11:19am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:18 Possibly way too f***ing late already.
	♥ 11:20am Zip7: ↳ StringOFperils @11:18 Some interesting writings on post-postmodernism, or "Metamodernism" or whatever it's called.
	♥ 11:20am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:15 I'm curious about what they said.
	♥ 11:23am StringOFperils: And it's great that children can still opt for painting, or creative writing, and such. That is hasn't yet been totally excised from curricula by fascist tech-bros.
	11:23am Mister Dobalina: Nice transition.
	♥ 11:23am tom tom the pipers son: i remember in a colege art history text book, there was an illustration from a late medieval travel book where an illustration of a single cityscape was used for illustrating different cities...i don't remember what the explanation was...but we seem have that situation in reality now
	♥ 11:28am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:23 yes great....:/...?
	♥ 11:29am StringOFperils: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 They didn't get to see the actual locations, everything being far away and only imagined, while we don't perceive the actual dislocations, everything being close and not different from anywhere else.
	11:29am still b/p: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:23 It is argued today that the Dark Ages have a distorted and mistaken rep. But if that's when ClipArt was conceived and embraced, the period name holds!
	♥ 11:31am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ still b/p @11:29 yes that was argued as far back as the 1920's by historian henri pirenne
	♥ 11:31am StringOFperils: The 'dark ages' were full of brilliant light. Largely a 19th century chauvinistic term
	♥ 11:33am StringOFperils: Also a term referring to western European history, when it excluded by omission, the entirety of the rest of the world
	♥ 11:34am tom tom the pipers son: "medieval cities" by henri pirenne... very enjoyable book
	♥ 11:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ StringOFperils @11:33 ironically, during 'dark ages', europe was connected to other parts of the world esp north africa
	11:38am Miketp: Hello! Eve ESSEX HITTING THE SPOT.GLORIOUS SOUNDS TO LIVE WITH..BE WELL TROUBLE & THE TROUBLESOME.
	♥ 11:39am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 you can even pin racism to term "dark ages"...considering when the term was coined at a high point of colonialism
	11:40am Marie in Chicago: Hey Trouble, your show is just so fantastic today. I woulda said hi at the record fair but I did a gummy and got self-conscious and like a big dummy. I came by twice but you were busy.
	11:41am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @10:56 That is a road trip I would love
	11:42am Avspuk: ↳ Song: "soft cage featuring luke moldof" by "eve essex" Low-ish? Low-esque? Clickystar in any case. Thanks
	11:42am Hi from Holland: ↳ Song: "silently invisibly" by "Caroline Shaw & So Percus... Aloha! Caroline Shaw is this seasons "Composer in Residence" at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam.
	♥ 11:42am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 the other parts of the world that the medieval world had contact with, were colonizied in the 19th century and therefore couldn't be thought about as equal players
	♥ 11:44am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:15 Painting feels good. Like a of of thigs that hit the pleasure receptors of sentient beings, painting clouds the logical need to do other things with your time. Thus the enduring caricature of the painter as a clueless beatnik standing in a puddle of his own creation. I can live with that as a descriptor. Allow your child that luxury.
	11:45am Hi from Holland: ↳ Hi from Holland @11:42 Didn't know they had a new album with CS, the first one " Let The Soil Play Its Simple Part" is lovely.
	♥ 11:47am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Song: "flying at night" by "laurie anderson" I saw an interview with her about this record. Man, I could listen to Laurie Anderson talk all day long.
	♥ 11:47am Mick: ↳ Song: "segredos vegetais" by "mia doi todd" Checking in very late (as is lately usual for me) to thank you for this marvelous, nourishing show, and particularly for this gorgeous version of "segredos vegetais", new to me.
	♥ 11:48am StringOFperils: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:44 Being a human being is not at all about meaningless work on meaningless alienating things by electric light 24 hours per day, eating processed crap on the run, and worrying and worrying about a future that can only bear the imprint of the anxiety drenched emptiness of a present where no one IS present. or, as Mr. Natural put it, "It don't mean sheee-it!"
	♥ 11:49am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Marie in Chicago @11:41 The book is “Spiral Jetta” by Erin Hogan.
	♥ 11:50am Yes: dang, nancy lesh is good
	♥ 11:50am Franco Twinkie: ↳ StringOFperils @11:48 True that. Too many people learn that when it's to it's to late to change.
	11:50am Andres: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:44 Grandparents on both sides paint so that might’ve had some influence. And limiting devices and having a ton of art supplies to use their time more wisely.
	11:51am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Hi from Holland @11:45 I love that title and idea. I just heard discussion of the importance of soil and the huge part it is of the natural world but how unappreciated it is in many respects. I like to say, soil ain't dirt!
	11:51am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:49 oh, thank you!
	11:53am Marie in Chicago: ↳ Andres @11:50 I'm hoping to devote more time to painting for the next few years as I limit my news/media intake
	♥ 11:53am Franco Twinkie: ↳ Andres @11:50 Devices are poison to the soul. With that, I'm going outside to exercise.
	♥ 11:54am WoodsOfMaine: Lovely show Trouble. We all need as many moments of Zen as we can get.
	♥ 11:55am WoodsOfMaine: ↳ Marie in Chicago @11:53 Good idea. Same here. And I’m not limiting…I’m locking out.
	♥ 11:55am StringOFperils: I became a painter because my dad worked in a paper mill where he swiped reams of nice bond paper and lumberjack crayons and tape (in the spirit of angry working-class payback). I played with that stuff more than most other things.
	♥ 11:55am Zip7: Thanks so much, Trouble! A delight, as always
	♥ 11:56am Trouble: thanks for listening today!
	♥ 11:56am pot8o: thanks trouble! have a great week everyone!
	♥ 11:56am common: many thanks, trouble, as always.
	11:56am Marie in Chicago: ↳ WoodsOfMaine @11:55 Good for you @)
	♥ 11:56am StringOFperils: ↳ StringOFperils @11:55 ...but I learned, painfully, at a young age, that the walls were off limits
	♥ 11:56am strangegait: thanks -- be well everybody
	♥ 11:57am Ken From Hyde Park: Thank you, Trouble. Enjoy the day, without fire.
	11:57am Marie in Chicago: Merci, beaucoup, Trouble!
	♥ 11:57am tom tom the pipers son: @ trouble...merci boo coo
	11:57am Adrian in London: Thanks for a lovely show, I really enjoyed it.
	♥ 11:57am StringOFperils: Thank you, Trouble! Thank you everybody!
	♥ 11:58am Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Thanks for the amazing show!!
	♥ 11:58am gauche knee: Late greetings Trouble & fellow troubled world builders! Lots of news/content to set our nervous systems ablaze🔥& turn us hopeless. “The key to taking effective action in a *rump world is to avoid perpetuating the autocrat’s goals of fear, isolation, exhaustion and disorientation.” - Daniel Hunter 🍂please take rest , care, & get you some joy & share with others🍂thanks for the show , trouble!
	♥ 11:58am chresti: Thanks Trouble!
	11:58am Andres: Thanks! Take care!
	♥ 11:59am Handy Haversack: Thanks, Trouble!

This Is The Modern World with Trouble: Playlist from November 14, 2024

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