WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from April 14, 2013

Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, music lovers.
	9:03pm G: Getting to the 2% early this week.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: This is rock and roll? Wow, you're strict.
	9:07pm 12539: Dentist recommended! magazineromance.files.wordpress.com...
	9:07pm G: "Wow, you're strict." <-- That's what she said. :p Genres are so arguable. (Was just reading a lit book about that.) But the rhythm is more rocky than jazzy, kinda, yes?
	9:08pm bloopy: hey Dm
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: Fusion, I guess. So maybe both.
	9:10pm Dave Mandl: Hey Bloopy, G, 12539. Good to see you again.
	9:16pm sweet cheri: hey dave,what's happening? i was out of town for two weeks, but now i'm back!!
	9:17pm Dave Mandl: Bon Soir, Cheri. How's it going?
	9:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Don't these boys know any nice songs? - & why don't they smile more often?
	9:19pm sweet cheri: i'm great dave, i'm very happy..
	9:20pm Dave Mandl: Any special reason? Lottery? In love?
	9:21pm Dave Mandl: @RR: No nice songs on this show.
	9:22pm Dave Mandl: Question I posted to Twitter earlier: DJ signatures on @WFMU’s most-played recent release. Q: Is it David Bowie, Wire, Yo La Tengo, or My Bloody Valentine?
	9:23pm Dave Mandl: twitter.com...
	9:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...there were prob. having a blast & grinning like fools... ...all a guitarist needs is an e-bow & that elektrikdentistfinger...
	9:24pm ?: it's just that life's been good and i have lots of friends i could hang out with, dave.
	9:27pm 12539: I'd guess Yo La Tengo. Also, it's been out longer than the others, hasn't it?
	9:27pm G: YLT Fade. Has Evan played Wire? (His initials are on that image of the DJ signatures)
	9:29pm sweet cheri: dave that was me at 9:24,(sorry about that)
	9:29pm G: You could probably match every set of DJ initials up to the playlist date and the matching track numbers from the CD.
	9:30pm Droll: Sanford & Son Theme is a Qunicy tune! I'll bet on Bowie w/most plays. Kenzo turned down my request for a copy of the playlist database for my nefarious "Big Data" project to definitively answer questions like this.
	9:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: G @ 9:29 : Suppose Caryn's bored right now ? : p
	9:32pm Dave Mandl: So G says YLT and Droll says Bowie. Any others?
	9:33pm Dave Mandl: @G: Sounds like a great project!
	9:34pm sFrances from VA: I think YLT as well
	9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: MBV was long-awaited - not betting anything...
	9:35pm Dave Mandl: Any more guesses?
	9:36pm G: As 12539 mentioned, YLT has been out longer, that also gives them better odds. Bowie only out a few weeks, but getting much play since then
	9:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...FMU has strong YLT ties - & a broad appeal across DJ's??...
	9:37pm Dave Mandl: YLT it is. Well done.
	9:37pm G: Favorite sons, almost :)
	9:37pm Droll: I'll place a side bet MBV is last because everyone says they love shoegaze, but nobody bought the records or went to the shows.
	9:37pm G: mixed sex sons :)
	9:38pm 12539: I cheated by listening to the station a lot over the last few months.
	9:38pm Droll: DM, Please share the per-album totals.
	9:39pm Matt: wonderful song right now : )
	9:39pm sweet cheri: dave i'm enjoyin the show, also is'nt it great when you have lots of friends that you could talk to and hang out with?
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: Yes indeed.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: 12539: You're like a human computer.
	9:43pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: You've gotta be kidding. I could photograph the other signature labels, I guess.
	9:43pm Dave Mandl: Actually, it was very close. Two other CDs had just about as many plays: Boyce & Hart and another I can't recall.
	9:43pm Matt: digging these drones : 9
	9:43pm G: @Dave: Just don't make him sing Daisy.
	9:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...12539 is maybe a Numbers Station. Caryn is a Benign CryptoGovernment SuperComputer.
	9:44pm Dave Mandl: If any of you are on Twitter, I just named the winners there.
	9:46pm G: @Droll: You can use the homepage searchbox to search for "artistname albumname" and it will get you a count of all playlists where album name is listed (not everyone lists album name)
	9:48pm G: Dave aint lyin. How was the cake? The Profile Pic Cake
	9:49pm sweet cheri: dave i'm sorry to say this is my last comment for tonight, cause i'll be listening to the rest of the show.. see ya next week,dave
	9:50pm sFrances from VA: Thx for the comgrats on Twitter,Dave. I really enjoy your show.
	9:51pm Dave Mandl: Later, Cheri. Thanks very much, sF.
	9:52pm Dave Mandl: That's my daughter, in San Francisco. The cake was good.
	9:53pm Dave Mandl: Amazingly, I asked my wife recently and she remembered the name of the place and of the cake itself. It was maybe 2007.
	9:54pm Droll: SuperComputers... Ha! Where's the SuperSoftware to go with them?! G, I need to introduce you to my recent diversions into data-mining large music databases. Way more pointless than the WFMU, or any other, music search engine. Also, I owe you an email.... More later, this show competes with dinner time.
	9:56pm Dave Mandl: Speaking of dinnertime, this would be a good time to ask: Where are all you folks located?
	9:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: New Hampshire
	9:57pm G: central Brooklyn near BK College. -- Droll (if dining and not seeing your query) is in the Pacific NW
	9:57pm 12539: Lower Manhattan.
	9:59pm Dave Mandl: Cool, thanks. @G: I'm a proud BC alumnus.
	9:59pm sFrances from VA: Currently:Richmond,Va
	9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.snorgtees.com...
	10:00pm G: @Dave: Small world. I walk by there virtually every day (I work 100% online)
	10:01pm Dave Mandl: I used to take the 6 bus to school.
	10:02pm Dave Mandl: Haha. "Virtually."
	10:02pm Matt: wow.. fire set tonight this song is wild..
	10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dif. Theremin than usually heard? Going for bow-like effect - good control...
	10:03pm G: Ok, I walk by there nearly every day :) I work virtually. Virtually working. I like the sound of that!
	10:10pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Matt.
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: RR: I agree. It is a little different from the usual Theremin sound.
	10:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Playlist search page: wfmu.org...
	10:16pm fleep: Studio City, California, a mile from the original Mack Sennett studios
	10:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...tones & rhythm great on this Gamelan~Synth piece. - Wish I didn't have to subscribe to stream Hearts of Space - altho' prob. a square deal. There's a Space Music podcast I've been getting from Magnatune.com; finally listened to it - & it has commercials to subscribe periodically - not what I'm looking for in SpaceMusic...A good SpaceStream would be appreciated!...
	10:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.peterpringle.com...
	10:20pm G: Notice which tracks on that YLT "we played this" scan are most played...
	10:21pm kham: Uh oh. Ken's gonna fire up his lurid Rockmore fan fiction...or was that Delia Derbyshire?
	10:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.psymon.com...
	10:25pm earrie: Hi Kenzo, is there an RSS feed for http://www.wfmu.org/upcoming ? If not, can there be one?
	10:25pm Dave Mandl: Hey, fleep. Wow, Hollywood.
	10:26pm Dave Mandl: (Or near Hollywood, anyway.)
	10:26pm Dave Mandl: @G: Yes, you can see the tracks. Interesting demographic information there.
	10:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...tonight, vino 1st, then the veena...
	10:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @earrie: Nope, upcoming has no RSS feed. FWIW, it's not exactly RSS-like, since items get added to it not chronologically, but randomly (i.e. the next two items added might be one for July and one for tomorrow), and also get edited a bunch.
	10:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I suggested somewhere an FMU Top 40 Chart some kind - & people seemed repelled by idea as unFMU. I don't think you can herd cats, tho' - & it'd be interesting to know...
	10:37pm 12539: The Heavily Played Records page is sort of a Top 40.
	10:39pm earrie: @kenzo ah. I see. I don't think a nonlinear sequence matters given the page presents sequentially. And doesn't rss refresh with new/updated content--(frustrates the hell outta me when news orgs make changss after publication without an "UPDATED" tag.)
	10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - yeah, unlikely I'll think of anything yet unthot of in just a few months of internet access! ...Where's that, Por Favor 12539 - ??
	10:42pm earrie: Here's an eg of a non-linear event feed : http://apache.ocad.ca/events_calendar/feed_rss.php
	10:42pm G: @RR63: www.wfmu.org... there's a link to it along the left side of the homepage
	10:43pm 12539: www.wfmu.org... Link from the home page under Programming. Not quite a Top 40 as it's DJ choices, not listener choices, as suits the station.
	10:48pm 12539: Definite 2% here.
	10:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx! DJ choices good - remember now I tied the suggestion to discusion of the Favoriting function - & this went down like a proverbial Led Balloon...Broughton was a bitchin' track...
	10:49pm G: this must be on the 104.3 "500 permissible songs" list :)
	10:50pm Dave Mandl: @12539: Yup, no question about that.
	10:50pm Dave Mandl: Even 104.3 is right occasionally.
	10:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zep of course - when not crediting Howlin' Wolf tunes to themselves (should take Times into account - altho' I don't think the Stones did that...) - had Folk & World influences reflecting intelligence & taste...I got no problem hearing this now.
	10:56pm Dave Mandl: At their best they were the best.
	10:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Moving Gelatine Plates a little like Zappa?
	10:57pm Dave Mandl: Yeah. Or Soft Machine doing Zappa.
	10:57pm mb: Thanks for the LZ!!! Made the last few miles of my long trip worth it.
	10:58pm Dave Mandl: @mb: My pleasure.
	10:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Best? I'm a WhoFan : ) ...but to the ZepHater I say - watch 'How the West Was Won' & get back to me on that...
	11:01pm Dave Mandl: I've watched the DVD, and I seem to recall that Bonham does an unbelievable solo. Almost as good as Clive Bunker.
	11:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Often think Soft Machine not enuff credit for earliest Fusion?? Approaching Fusion from the Rock direction - people like Ginger Baker & Jack Bruce (Cream), Hendrix's drummer Mitchell (& Densmore drummer Doors in U.S.) came outta Jazz...
	11:06pm Dave Mandl: But SM were big jazz fans. Not sure if they played much jazz when they were younger, but they definitely listened to a lot of it.
	11:06pm Dave Mandl: And Matching Mole (Wyatt's spinoff) was also very fusion-y.
	11:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Tull come in for a lotta abuse - but saw them few years ago @ 60's Fest kinda thing - & didn't seem revival - seemed business as usual for them! Good songs, musicianship, energy - check. - Haven't actually seen all Zep DVD, but enuff to say what I said...
	11:09pm Dave Mandl: I'm not going to talk about Tull here, but if you're interested in drummers look for "Dharma for One" at Isle of Wight. It's on YouTube. Incredible playing by Bunker. He is so underrated today.
	11:10pm Droll: LZ is the most important guitar-powered band that's all about the drummer. The close second is The Who. Kenzo, I am a frequent playlist search user, but you moved the "SELECT WHERE" SQL entry field and I can't find it! I always assumed the 2% Rock quota applied for large values of 2%. Yes, I'm in Seattle, +3hr from the mothership. And the show complements dinner, it does not compete. Dinner wins every time.
	11:11pm Dave Mandl: I've always thought Moon was kind of overrated. Very good, but not as good as his rep.
	11:11pm sweet cheri: i hope you don't mind me saying that this has been a real fun show,,thnx again dave..
	11:12pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Cheri.
	11:15pm Droll: DM, It wasn't Moon's chops, he's fall-down sloppy drunk most of the time. His voice on the instrument is so unique, a signature player -- it only takes 1-2 measures before you know it's Bruford, not White, or Moon vs. Jones.
	11:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting to actually hear some MacLise than just know he was early Velvets. ...Moon...he was inconsistent but very expressive & out before Baker or any of the others tried anything like that in public in Rock/Pop. Others may have been more solid or technically together - but they're more like diligent Jazz students (very good ones) & Moon more creative (altho' had Jazz antecedents like Krupa or whomever)...
	11:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Droll: Whatchu talkin' about?
	11:23pm Droll: Kenzo, The link to download the FMU playlist database isn't working. Should I just screen-scrape? Also, do you know a good way to substitute ö with o? I missed Motorhead by Motörhead on Motörhead. 1033.
	11:24pm G: @Droll: The Bruford/White argument has been endemic on Yes discussion lists since the 90s, and even back on alt.music.yes (usenet). There was a working/touring drummer on there who schooled us on some drummers being very distinctive about how to be just microseconds ahead of or behind the instruments, really affecting the feel of the song when done just right, and exactly how they would strike various parts of the kit differently in different situations, etc...
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's not unrelated that the early Who (Moon the youngest) were speeding their gonads off on ModPills, & then Moon became more & more alchoholic...
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: True, of course. And he was a good drummer, very fast for the time. But a lot of what he played was impressive mostly to people who don't know about drums.
	11:27pm Dave Mandl: Bruford of course was one of the best, and White, and Collins. Being a Tull fan I also loved (and still do) Clive Bunker and Barriemore Barlow. Few drummers could touch Bunker. It's a shame how little credit he gets.
	11:28pm Dave Mandl: Bruford was much better in Crimson than Yes.
	11:29pm Droll: G, Microseconds are forever in jazz. Swing feel and sloppy feel and tight feel is sub-microseconds at dance tempos. I contend the "difference" between analog and digital recording are those measurable sub-microsecond delays, not the subjective "harsh/brittle" golden-ear crap.
	11:29pm G: Clive was from Luton, up the street from where I lived in England (Harpenden)
	11:31pm G: @DM: Ever heard Bunker's solo album? I haven't...
	11:33pm Dave Mandl: No. Must be fairly recent. Also, he played with a few bands after Tull.
	11:35pm 12539: Dave, you, Irwin and EFD should do a three-way Drummer Throwdown special, like the battles Clay Pigeon has been doing.
	11:36pm G: Yep, 90s. Also a live album of him doing Tull songs with a band in Italy in about 2004. Yes, wiki says Bunker's post-Tull bands were: "Blodwyn Pig, Robin Trower, Jude, Aviator, Jeff Pain (aka Dicken, formerly of the UK band Mr Big), Manfred Mann, Jack Bruce, Gordon Giltrap, Anna Ryder, Uli Jon Roth, Electric Sun, Steve Hillage, Vikki Clayton, Solstice, Glenn Hughes and Jerry Donahue."
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @12539: I'm totally up for it. And I'm sure they would be too. Great idea.
	11:37pm Droll: DM, Everything is much better in Crimson than in Yes. Except for notes per minute, a metric by which Yes wins (and ELP beats them both... handily) 12539, Right, make the ringer (Dennis) judge.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @G: Can't say I've heard every one of those, but I don't think he ever matched his playing in Tull. Seriously.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Mitch Mitchell was pretty close to Moon's territory; think the Experience isn't considered enuff as a Band - as it's always about Jimi. ...Agree totally about these other drummers being underrated - but not letting go of the Moon thing that easily...He was too expressive, too innovative (Rock before him was Ringo & Charlie Watts - both underrated in their own ways too anyhow) - & too exciting still to hear. He was fatally unwell, & gradually diminshed, which clouds the issue perhaps. Also - he was perfect in the band he was in. If we're gonna open up to Jazz musicianship standards - then Rock is mostly gonna be the snotty no-count punk upstart anyway...well - not Bill Bruford & his sort...
	11:39pm Dave Mandl: I don't disagree about Moon. His playing on "My Generation" was completely new in the rock world.
	11:40pm G: @Dave: I'm sure you know this, but I just looked it up. He quit Tull because he got married just as they were starting on a huge world tour, just as he'd told them all along would happen if he got married.
	11:41pm Droll: G, He wanted to spend more time with his family? That excuse doesn't work with businessmen or politicians and it's certainly not going to work with rock musicians.
	11:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Droll: It's working fine. It just happens to be empty today. Data lines, odd and even days, depending on the last digit of your cookie.
	11:43pm G: It was his call, Droll, and there goes history! Like Gabriel leaving Genesis in significant measure because of his wife's childbirth issues...
	11:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: King Crimson never had an MTV Period.
	11:46pm G: MTV never had a Crim period.
	11:47pm Droll: King Crimson was never allowed on MTV. Period.
	11:47pm earrie: MTV thought KC was short for KFC
	11:48pm Droll: . o O ( and thus the find word on MTV and KC was writ: NO )
	11:49pm G: MTV thought: this is a dangerous band. this is a dangerous band.
	11:50pm Dave Mandl: Yeah, supposedly because he got married, but Tull was going in a very different direction and I don't think he was into it. Also, Ian Anderson was kind of a tyrant and kicked all the original members out of the band one by one.
	11:51pm G: The other members of Yes called Anderson "Napoleon" behind his back. OK, not always behind his back.
	11:52pm G: The other Anderson lol
	11:53pm G: God knows what they called Ian when TFTO was competing against A Passion Play.
	11:53pm Droll: [gasping, on floor]
	11:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& yet bandleader skills, frontman egos, & drill sergeants are all part of the Spinal Tap chemistry of it all too. Where would stoned art student Townshend be w/out Daltrey's fists - Joey & DeeDee w/out Johnny's bully army background - ?...
	11:57pm 12539: Thanks, Dave.
	11:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. Great to see all of you. Have a wonderful week.
	12:00am Droll: DM, Great show, see you in a week!

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April 14, 2013

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Gary Burton	Vibrafinger "Vibrafinger" by "Gary Burton"	Good Vibes	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Borngräber & Strüver	Cloud II "Cloud II" by "Borngräber & Strüver"	Clouds	0:07:06 (Pop-up)
Leroy Jenkins' Sting	Static in the Attic	Urban Blues	0:11:04 (Pop-up)
Bill Brovold	Childish Delusions "Childish Delusions" by "Bill Brovold"	Childish Delusions	0:17:44 (Pop-up)

Greg Allman	Midnight Rider "Midnight Rider" by "Greg Allman"	Laid Back	0:28:54 (Pop-up)
Low	I Remember "I Remember" by "Low"	Secret Name	0:32:59 (Pop-up)
Maciunas Ensemble	A Wide, White World	Number Made Audible	0:37:14 (Pop-up)

Newband	Columbus (Dean Drummond) "Columbus (Dean Drummond)" by "Newband"	Play Microtonal Works by...	0:48:16 (Pop-up)
Dr. Samuel J. Hoffman	Radar Blues	Music out of the Moon	0:58:38 (Pop-up)
Robert Macht	Lelesan Makapu "Lelesan Makapu" by "Robert Macht"	Suite for Javanese Gamelan and Synthesizer	1:01:37 (Pop-up)
Eivind Opsvik	Silkweavers' Song "Silkweavers' Song" by "Eivind Opsvik"	Overseas IV	1:11:28 (Pop-up)

Vijay Iyer/Prasanna/Nitin Mitta	Duality	Tirtha	1:22:07 (Pop-up)
Antony and the Johnsons	Hope Mountain	Another World	1:28:47 (Pop-up)
David Thomas Broughton	Ever Rotating Sky	The Complete Guide to Insufficiency	1:34:12 (Pop-up)
Molly Drake	Happiness "Happiness" by "Molly Drake"	Molly Drake	1:41:44 (Pop-up)

Led Zeppelin	Ten Years Gone "Ten Years Gone" by "Led Zeppelin"	Physical Graffiti	1:46:14 (Pop-up)
Moving Gelatine Plates	Astromonster	The World of Genius Hans	1:52:06 (Pop-up)
Israel Quellet	La Revanche des Anches	Rhythmes d'Etain	1:58:09 (Pop-up)
Angus MacLise	Beelzebub "Beelzebub" by "Angus MacLise"	Astral Collapse	2:05:55 (Pop-up)
Harold Budd	A Child in a Sylvan Field	By The Dawn's Early Light	2:11:14 (Pop-up)

Implodes	Prisms and the Nature of Light	Recurring Dream	2:20:32 (Pop-up)
Annamy	Stegen "Stegen" by "Annamy"	Woodpecker	2:22:30 (Pop-up)
Close Erase	Zoo Solitude Part III	R.I.P. Complete Recordings 1995-2007	2:28:23 (Pop-up)
Anthony Burr / Charles Curtis	On the Carpet of Leaves, Illuminated by the Moon	Alvin Lucier	2:37:29 (Pop-up)

Aldo Brizzi	Nochecita "Nochecita" by "Aldo Brizzi"	The Labyrinth Trial	2:45:44 (Pop-up)
Kris Davis	Too Tinkerbell "Too Tinkerbell" by "Kris Davis"	Capricorn Climber	2:56:03 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, music lovers.
	9:03pm G: Getting to the 2% early this week.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: This is rock and roll? Wow, you're strict.
	9:07pm 12539: Dentist recommended! magazineromance.files.wordpress.com...
	9:07pm G: "Wow, you're strict." <-- That's what she said. :p Genres are so arguable. (Was just reading a lit book about that.) But the rhythm is more rocky than jazzy, kinda, yes?
	9:08pm bloopy: hey Dm
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: Fusion, I guess. So maybe both.
	9:10pm Dave Mandl: Hey Bloopy, G, 12539. Good to see you again.
	9:16pm sweet cheri: hey dave,what's happening? i was out of town for two weeks, but now i'm back!!
	9:17pm Dave Mandl: Bon Soir, Cheri. How's it going?
	9:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Don't these boys know any nice songs? - & why don't they smile more often?
	9:19pm sweet cheri: i'm great dave, i'm very happy..
	9:20pm Dave Mandl: Any special reason? Lottery? In love?
	9:21pm Dave Mandl: @RR: No nice songs on this show.
	9:22pm Dave Mandl: Question I posted to Twitter earlier: DJ signatures on @WFMU’s most-played recent release. Q: Is it David Bowie, Wire, Yo La Tengo, or My Bloody Valentine?
	9:23pm Dave Mandl: twitter.com...
	9:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...there were prob. having a blast & grinning like fools... ...all a guitarist needs is an e-bow & that elektrikdentistfinger...
	9:24pm ?: it's just that life's been good and i have lots of friends i could hang out with, dave.
	9:27pm 12539: I'd guess Yo La Tengo. Also, it's been out longer than the others, hasn't it?
	9:27pm G: YLT Fade. Has Evan played Wire? (His initials are on that image of the DJ signatures)
	9:29pm sweet cheri: dave that was me at 9:24,(sorry about that)
	9:29pm G: You could probably match every set of DJ initials up to the playlist date and the matching track numbers from the CD.
	9:30pm Droll: Sanford & Son Theme is a Qunicy tune! I'll bet on Bowie w/most plays. Kenzo turned down my request for a copy of the playlist database for my nefarious "Big Data" project to definitively answer questions like this.
	9:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: G @ 9:29 : Suppose Caryn's bored right now ? : p
	9:32pm Dave Mandl: So G says YLT and Droll says Bowie. Any others?
	9:33pm Dave Mandl: @G: Sounds like a great project!
	9:34pm sFrances from VA: I think YLT as well
	9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: MBV was long-awaited - not betting anything...
	9:35pm Dave Mandl: Any more guesses?
	9:36pm G: As 12539 mentioned, YLT has been out longer, that also gives them better odds. Bowie only out a few weeks, but getting much play since then
	9:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...FMU has strong YLT ties - & a broad appeal across DJ's??...
	9:37pm Dave Mandl: YLT it is. Well done.
	9:37pm G: Favorite sons, almost :)
	9:37pm Droll: I'll place a side bet MBV is last because everyone says they love shoegaze, but nobody bought the records or went to the shows.
	9:37pm G: mixed sex sons :)
	9:38pm 12539: I cheated by listening to the station a lot over the last few months.
	9:38pm Droll: DM, Please share the per-album totals.
	9:39pm Matt: wonderful song right now : )
	9:39pm sweet cheri: dave i'm enjoyin the show, also is'nt it great when you have lots of friends that you could talk to and hang out with?
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: Yes indeed.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: 12539: You're like a human computer.
	9:43pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: You've gotta be kidding. I could photograph the other signature labels, I guess.
	9:43pm Dave Mandl: Actually, it was very close. Two other CDs had just about as many plays: Boyce & Hart and another I can't recall.
	9:43pm Matt: digging these drones : 9
	9:43pm G: @Dave: Just don't make him sing Daisy.
	9:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...12539 is maybe a Numbers Station. Caryn is a Benign CryptoGovernment SuperComputer.
	9:44pm Dave Mandl: If any of you are on Twitter, I just named the winners there.
	9:46pm G: @Droll: You can use the homepage searchbox to search for "artistname albumname" and it will get you a count of all playlists where album name is listed (not everyone lists album name)
	9:48pm G: Dave aint lyin. How was the cake? The Profile Pic Cake
	9:49pm sweet cheri: dave i'm sorry to say this is my last comment for tonight, cause i'll be listening to the rest of the show.. see ya next week,dave
	9:50pm sFrances from VA: Thx for the comgrats on Twitter,Dave. I really enjoy your show.
	9:51pm Dave Mandl: Later, Cheri. Thanks very much, sF.
	9:52pm Dave Mandl: That's my daughter, in San Francisco. The cake was good.
	9:53pm Dave Mandl: Amazingly, I asked my wife recently and she remembered the name of the place and of the cake itself. It was maybe 2007.
	9:54pm Droll: SuperComputers... Ha! Where's the SuperSoftware to go with them?! G, I need to introduce you to my recent diversions into data-mining large music databases. Way more pointless than the WFMU, or any other, music search engine. Also, I owe you an email.... More later, this show competes with dinner time.
	9:56pm Dave Mandl: Speaking of dinnertime, this would be a good time to ask: Where are all you folks located?
	9:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: New Hampshire
	9:57pm G: central Brooklyn near BK College. -- Droll (if dining and not seeing your query) is in the Pacific NW
	9:57pm 12539: Lower Manhattan.
	9:59pm Dave Mandl: Cool, thanks. @G: I'm a proud BC alumnus.
	9:59pm sFrances from VA: Currently:Richmond,Va
	9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.snorgtees.com...
	10:00pm G: @Dave: Small world. I walk by there virtually every day (I work 100% online)
	10:01pm Dave Mandl: I used to take the 6 bus to school.
	10:02pm Dave Mandl: Haha. "Virtually."
	10:02pm Matt: wow.. fire set tonight this song is wild..
	10:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dif. Theremin than usually heard? Going for bow-like effect - good control...
	10:03pm G: Ok, I walk by there nearly every day :) I work virtually. Virtually working. I like the sound of that!
	10:10pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Matt.
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: RR: I agree. It is a little different from the usual Theremin sound.
	10:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): Playlist search page: wfmu.org...
	10:16pm fleep: Studio City, California, a mile from the original Mack Sennett studios
	10:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...tones & rhythm great on this Gamelan~Synth piece. - Wish I didn't have to subscribe to stream Hearts of Space - altho' prob. a square deal. There's a Space Music podcast I've been getting from Magnatune.com; finally listened to it - & it has commercials to subscribe periodically - not what I'm looking for in SpaceMusic...A good SpaceStream would be appreciated!...
	10:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.peterpringle.com...
	10:20pm G: Notice which tracks on that YLT "we played this" scan are most played...
	10:21pm kham: Uh oh. Ken's gonna fire up his lurid Rockmore fan fiction...or was that Delia Derbyshire?
	10:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: www.psymon.com...
	10:25pm earrie: Hi Kenzo, is there an RSS feed for http://www.wfmu.org/upcoming ? If not, can there be one?
	10:25pm Dave Mandl: Hey, fleep. Wow, Hollywood.
	10:26pm Dave Mandl: (Or near Hollywood, anyway.)
	10:26pm Dave Mandl: @G: Yes, you can see the tracks. Interesting demographic information there.
	10:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...tonight, vino 1st, then the veena...
	10:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @earrie: Nope, upcoming has no RSS feed. FWIW, it's not exactly RSS-like, since items get added to it not chronologically, but randomly (i.e. the next two items added might be one for July and one for tomorrow), and also get edited a bunch.
	10:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I suggested somewhere an FMU Top 40 Chart some kind - & people seemed repelled by idea as unFMU. I don't think you can herd cats, tho' - & it'd be interesting to know...
	10:37pm 12539: The Heavily Played Records page is sort of a Top 40.
	10:39pm earrie: @kenzo ah. I see. I don't think a nonlinear sequence matters given the page presents sequentially. And doesn't rss refresh with new/updated content--(frustrates the hell outta me when news orgs make changss after publication without an "UPDATED" tag.)
	10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - yeah, unlikely I'll think of anything yet unthot of in just a few months of internet access! ...Where's that, Por Favor 12539 - ??
	10:42pm earrie: Here's an eg of a non-linear event feed : http://apache.ocad.ca/events_calendar/feed_rss.php
	10:42pm G: @RR63: www.wfmu.org... there's a link to it along the left side of the homepage
	10:43pm 12539: www.wfmu.org... Link from the home page under Programming. Not quite a Top 40 as it's DJ choices, not listener choices, as suits the station.
	10:48pm 12539: Definite 2% here.
	10:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Thx! DJ choices good - remember now I tied the suggestion to discusion of the Favoriting function - & this went down like a proverbial Led Balloon...Broughton was a bitchin' track...
	10:49pm G: this must be on the 104.3 "500 permissible songs" list :)
	10:50pm Dave Mandl: @12539: Yup, no question about that.
	10:50pm Dave Mandl: Even 104.3 is right occasionally.
	10:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Zep of course - when not crediting Howlin' Wolf tunes to themselves (should take Times into account - altho' I don't think the Stones did that...) - had Folk & World influences reflecting intelligence & taste...I got no problem hearing this now.
	10:56pm Dave Mandl: At their best they were the best.
	10:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Moving Gelatine Plates a little like Zappa?
	10:57pm Dave Mandl: Yeah. Or Soft Machine doing Zappa.
	10:57pm mb: Thanks for the LZ!!! Made the last few miles of my long trip worth it.
	10:58pm Dave Mandl: @mb: My pleasure.
	10:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Best? I'm a WhoFan : ) ...but to the ZepHater I say - watch 'How the West Was Won' & get back to me on that...
	11:01pm Dave Mandl: I've watched the DVD, and I seem to recall that Bonham does an unbelievable solo. Almost as good as Clive Bunker.
	11:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Often think Soft Machine not enuff credit for earliest Fusion?? Approaching Fusion from the Rock direction - people like Ginger Baker & Jack Bruce (Cream), Hendrix's drummer Mitchell (& Densmore drummer Doors in U.S.) came outta Jazz...
	11:06pm Dave Mandl: But SM were big jazz fans. Not sure if they played much jazz when they were younger, but they definitely listened to a lot of it.
	11:06pm Dave Mandl: And Matching Mole (Wyatt's spinoff) was also very fusion-y.
	11:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Tull come in for a lotta abuse - but saw them few years ago @ 60's Fest kinda thing - & didn't seem revival - seemed business as usual for them! Good songs, musicianship, energy - check. - Haven't actually seen all Zep DVD, but enuff to say what I said...
	11:09pm Dave Mandl: I'm not going to talk about Tull here, but if you're interested in drummers look for "Dharma for One" at Isle of Wight. It's on YouTube. Incredible playing by Bunker. He is so underrated today.
	11:10pm Droll: LZ is the most important guitar-powered band that's all about the drummer. The close second is The Who. Kenzo, I am a frequent playlist search user, but you moved the "SELECT WHERE" SQL entry field and I can't find it! I always assumed the 2% Rock quota applied for large values of 2%. Yes, I'm in Seattle, +3hr from the mothership. And the show complements dinner, it does not compete. Dinner wins every time.
	11:11pm Dave Mandl: I've always thought Moon was kind of overrated. Very good, but not as good as his rep.
	11:11pm sweet cheri: i hope you don't mind me saying that this has been a real fun show,,thnx again dave..
	11:12pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Cheri.
	11:15pm Droll: DM, It wasn't Moon's chops, he's fall-down sloppy drunk most of the time. His voice on the instrument is so unique, a signature player -- it only takes 1-2 measures before you know it's Bruford, not White, or Moon vs. Jones.
	11:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Interesting to actually hear some MacLise than just know he was early Velvets. ...Moon...he was inconsistent but very expressive & out before Baker or any of the others tried anything like that in public in Rock/Pop. Others may have been more solid or technically together - but they're more like diligent Jazz students (very good ones) & Moon more creative (altho' had Jazz antecedents like Krupa or whomever)...
	11:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Droll: Whatchu talkin' about?
	11:23pm Droll: Kenzo, The link to download the FMU playlist database isn't working. Should I just screen-scrape? Also, do you know a good way to substitute ö with o? I missed Motorhead by Motörhead on Motörhead. 1033.
	11:24pm G: @Droll: The Bruford/White argument has been endemic on Yes discussion lists since the 90s, and even back on alt.music.yes (usenet). There was a working/touring drummer on there who schooled us on some drummers being very distinctive about how to be just microseconds ahead of or behind the instruments, really affecting the feel of the song when done just right, and exactly how they would strike various parts of the kit differently in different situations, etc...
	11:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's not unrelated that the early Who (Moon the youngest) were speeding their gonads off on ModPills, & then Moon became more & more alchoholic...
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: True, of course. And he was a good drummer, very fast for the time. But a lot of what he played was impressive mostly to people who don't know about drums.
	11:27pm Dave Mandl: Bruford of course was one of the best, and White, and Collins. Being a Tull fan I also loved (and still do) Clive Bunker and Barriemore Barlow. Few drummers could touch Bunker. It's a shame how little credit he gets.
	11:28pm Dave Mandl: Bruford was much better in Crimson than Yes.
	11:29pm Droll: G, Microseconds are forever in jazz. Swing feel and sloppy feel and tight feel is sub-microseconds at dance tempos. I contend the "difference" between analog and digital recording are those measurable sub-microsecond delays, not the subjective "harsh/brittle" golden-ear crap.
	11:29pm G: Clive was from Luton, up the street from where I lived in England (Harpenden)
	11:31pm G: @DM: Ever heard Bunker's solo album? I haven't...
	11:33pm Dave Mandl: No. Must be fairly recent. Also, he played with a few bands after Tull.
	11:35pm 12539: Dave, you, Irwin and EFD should do a three-way Drummer Throwdown special, like the battles Clay Pigeon has been doing.
	11:36pm G: Yep, 90s. Also a live album of him doing Tull songs with a band in Italy in about 2004. Yes, wiki says Bunker's post-Tull bands were: "Blodwyn Pig, Robin Trower, Jude, Aviator, Jeff Pain (aka Dicken, formerly of the UK band Mr Big), Manfred Mann, Jack Bruce, Gordon Giltrap, Anna Ryder, Uli Jon Roth, Electric Sun, Steve Hillage, Vikki Clayton, Solstice, Glenn Hughes and Jerry Donahue."
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @12539: I'm totally up for it. And I'm sure they would be too. Great idea.
	11:37pm Droll: DM, Everything is much better in Crimson than in Yes. Except for notes per minute, a metric by which Yes wins (and ELP beats them both... handily) 12539, Right, make the ringer (Dennis) judge.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @G: Can't say I've heard every one of those, but I don't think he ever matched his playing in Tull. Seriously.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Mitch Mitchell was pretty close to Moon's territory; think the Experience isn't considered enuff as a Band - as it's always about Jimi. ...Agree totally about these other drummers being underrated - but not letting go of the Moon thing that easily...He was too expressive, too innovative (Rock before him was Ringo & Charlie Watts - both underrated in their own ways too anyhow) - & too exciting still to hear. He was fatally unwell, & gradually diminshed, which clouds the issue perhaps. Also - he was perfect in the band he was in. If we're gonna open up to Jazz musicianship standards - then Rock is mostly gonna be the snotty no-count punk upstart anyway...well - not Bill Bruford & his sort...
	11:39pm Dave Mandl: I don't disagree about Moon. His playing on "My Generation" was completely new in the rock world.
	11:40pm G: @Dave: I'm sure you know this, but I just looked it up. He quit Tull because he got married just as they were starting on a huge world tour, just as he'd told them all along would happen if he got married.
	11:41pm Droll: G, He wanted to spend more time with his family? That excuse doesn't work with businessmen or politicians and it's certainly not going to work with rock musicians.
	11:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever): @Droll: It's working fine. It just happens to be empty today. Data lines, odd and even days, depending on the last digit of your cookie.
	11:43pm G: It was his call, Droll, and there goes history! Like Gabriel leaving Genesis in significant measure because of his wife's childbirth issues...
	11:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: King Crimson never had an MTV Period.
	11:46pm G: MTV never had a Crim period.
	11:47pm Droll: King Crimson was never allowed on MTV. Period.
	11:47pm earrie: MTV thought KC was short for KFC
	11:48pm Droll: . o O ( and thus the find word on MTV and KC was writ: NO )
	11:49pm G: MTV thought: this is a dangerous band. this is a dangerous band.
	11:50pm Dave Mandl: Yeah, supposedly because he got married, but Tull was going in a very different direction and I don't think he was into it. Also, Ian Anderson was kind of a tyrant and kicked all the original members out of the band one by one.
	11:51pm G: The other members of Yes called Anderson "Napoleon" behind his back. OK, not always behind his back.
	11:52pm G: The other Anderson lol
	11:53pm G: God knows what they called Ian when TFTO was competing against A Passion Play.
	11:53pm Droll: [gasping, on floor]
	11:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& yet bandleader skills, frontman egos, & drill sergeants are all part of the Spinal Tap chemistry of it all too. Where would stoned art student Townshend be w/out Daltrey's fists - Joey & DeeDee w/out Johnny's bully army background - ?...
	11:57pm 12539: Thanks, Dave.
	11:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. Great to see all of you. Have a wonderful week.
	12:00am Droll: DM, Great show, see you in a week!

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from April 14, 2013

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