WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from June 16, 2013

Listener comments!
	9:02pm Dave E: Hi Dave M
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, dear listeners.
	♥ 9:03pm BDR: World famous celebrity here. I'm inexplicably drawn to you.
	9:03pm deanland: Great way to start the program...always a tough task, following Monica!!
	9:03pm Dave E: Nice start to the show.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: And...we have our first Dave checking in. Hey.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: And two non-Daves. Hey, dean/BDR.
	9:04pm Dave E: Mind if I call you Dave to avoid confusion?
	♥ 9:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: DAVES
	9:05pm Dave Mandl: @BDR: I know you've tried to resist, but it's hopeless.
	9:05pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, RRN63.
	9:06pm Dave E: The Dave club!
	9:06pm bloopy: hey there!
	9:07pm Dave E: Is Bloopy a Dave?
	♥ 9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Daves - NonDaves - 50-50%!...
	9:08pm Dave E: are you half Dave or half not Dave?
	9:08pm Dave Mandl: But each Dave is worth 1.2 non-Daves.
	9:08pm Dave Mandl: I see his Dave as half-full.
	9:09pm Dave E: How does one have a .2 non-Dave?
	♥ 9:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - oh - I'm a Dave, & I'm full of it awlright...
	9:10pm bloopy: non-dave i'm afraid
	♥ 9:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - soundin' like late Coltrane - & I like that very much Thx...
	9:11pm Dave E: oh well, join in on the Dave fun anyway.
	9:12pm Dave E: is that Dave M on drums?
	9:14pm Dave Mandl: @Dave E.: If you don't hear the drummer drop a stick, it's probably not me.
	9:15pm Dave E: Duct tape could fix that problem?
	9:19pm Dave Mandl: Ouch.
	9:20pm Dave E: Neat drum track, love them drums . . .
	9:20pm Dave E: ....meanwhile back in the jungle.
	♥ 9:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they talk w/ drums...
	♥ 9:23pm 12539: I am enjoying your show. My name is not Dave. That is all for now.
	9:24pm Dave Mandl: But...that's not possible.
	9:24pm Dave E: time to put the timer on and head off to ZZZZZZZZ. Don't play anything to rough now.
	9:24pm deanland: About to put my set of 1966 Ludwig pearl drums, Zildian cymbals(ride, crash, sizzle, high-hat) and Gretsch accessories (mostly) into storage. Just no room for them, NYC being known for tight spaces.
	9:35pm Dave Mandl: Sounds like a beautiful kit. What color?
	9:37pm Droll: Type "Elektrik Karousel" into Google, Google responds "Did you mean: electric carousel" deanland, Good news, there's enough room here in Seattle for just such a kit!
	9:38pm Dave Mandl: How embarrassing for Google.
	♥ 9:40pm G: I evade Dave status :p
	9:41pm Dave Mandl: Subversive.
	♥ 9:41pm G: Bingo.
	9:49pm common: yes
	♥ 10:03pm G: Dell'Universo Assente = From/Of the Absent Universe
	♥ 10:03pm G: or, About the Absent Universe (sounding like a book title)
	10:04pm Droll: If the universe makes a sound and nobody is there to hear it...
	10:06pm deanland: The kit is gray pearl. it is total vintage of the era. It traveled well, from NY where I grew up to college in the Midwest, then to the south where I worked, up to Massachusetts (more work) then back to NY where it was with me in the burbs for a long time. One fellow at a gig saw it and told me he drooled over seeing a drummer with (get this!) "Ringo's drum set!"
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: Yup, not surprising.
	10:08pm Droll: HA! Do you also throw towels over them so they go thud-thud-thud?
	10:10pm Dave Mandl: Do you smoke a cigarette while you're playing?
	10:14pm deanland: @Droll: We did put a blanket in the bass drum for a little while until I got a new pedal. The old, original pedal (Ludwig) had poor action and needed to be thumped like mad, making it louder than intended -- for quite some time I tried retuning the drum -- then Roy Blumenfeld, drummer for the Blues Project, told me to try another pedal. Wow, was he ever correct. That was when I began slowly changing over slowly to all Gretsch accessories. @Dave: back in the early 70's maybe, but not for the 35+ years since I quit!!!!
	10:14pm Droll: I love the version of this on Double Live Gonzo!
	♥ 10:15pm 12539: Cat Scratch Fever! This should fall under the 2% Rock and roll, but somehow...
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: This is the Ted Nugent no one really knows.
	10:17pm deanland: I think maybe it is Ned Tugent.
	10:21pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: Good for you (quitting smoking). But I have to admit there's something cool about him smoking while he's playing in Hard Day's Night.
	10:24pm Droll: Funny, because Brian Epstein urged them to quit smoking and drinking onstage when they were in Germany. They couldn't escape the "naughty" image.
	10:26pm Droll: I love the head flopping back and forth Ringo look, but Paul is still my favorite Beatles drummer.
	10:27pm pete l: Peter ivers tune ruined me
	10:28pm common: this is great thank you
	10:30pm deanland: According to a Beatles book I read, on a number of the cuts on some early Beatles albums, George Martin called in a drummer, sort of the Hal Blaine of London, to cover the drum track. Ringo, it seemed. learned on the job, and was somewhat tutored by George Martin. Probably more in style than in chops.
	10:32pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: Hmmm, well there are a lot of legends about Ringo, but I believe there was only track that they used a session guy on. Love Me Do.
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: Actually, a version of the song that was never released.
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: True story: Bernard Purdie claims he played drums on many Beatle records, but Ringo got credit. Completely crazy.
	10:44pm deanland: Good to know re Love Me Do. I heard that the Purdie stories were false. There's a fellow named Scott Freiman who does lectures deconstructing the Beatles. He's an expert on these things, and gets his hands on all sorts of demos and outtakes and does INCREDIBLE lectures on the Beatles. www.beatleslectures.com
	10:45pm ottovonbqe: Then there's the people who believe Paul McCartney is alive - they're the craziest.
	10:45pm deanland: +1 @ottovonbqe!
	10:46pm Droll: Why would Purdie need to exaggerate his career? And to claim credit on such mediocre playing!
	10:47pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Good question. Also, come on, what's better-documented than the Beatles' recording sessions? I think someone would have seen Purdie if he'd really been there.
	10:48pm Dave Mandl: @ottovonbqe: I think the jury's still out on that.
	10:49pm dk: i've heard some guy named "richard starkey" also played on a bunch of beatles records, but i'm not buying it for a second. lots of crazy conspiracy theories around that band, i tell you.
	10:54pm deanland: Rumor has it that Richard Starkey married a descendant of Johannes Sebastian Bach.
	10:55pm Droll: dk, There's also some crackpot, Pete Best, always saying "Me too!" I'm sticking with the Walrus as best Beatles drummer.
	11:01pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: True She restored hotness to the Bach family.
	11:04pm deanland: This Ayler piece sounds like it bore a lot of influence on Chris MacGregor's Brotherhood of Breath (which can only be heard, it seems, on WFMU).
	11:05pm deanland: Well, Dave, JS and CPO Bach really wore out the women in their lives!
	11:06pm dk: welp, this ayler box set just went straight onto the lust-object list.
	11:06pm mark Flynn: These guys do get Ornette, and to be honest, they get his mindset without being extremely obtuse. I appreciate Ornette for what he brought to the table, but his recordings are documents that would be revaluations live but most are difficult to absorb on vinyl.
	11:16pm trs: fyi from this eve http://youtu.be/MA4j4TLznE0?t=3m02s ( http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson)
	11:19pm mark Flynn: Thought the Ayler piece was Mostly Other People DoThe Killing. Props to Ayler.
	11:35pm deanland: Gotta run.....back next week to take in the sounds.......
	11:36pm Dave Mandl: Take care, @deanland. And take care of that drumset.
	11:38pm Droll: I thought we agreed I was going to take care of the kit.
	11:40pm Dave Mandl: Well, you guys need to work that out.
	11:42pm Marmalade Kitty: Der Todesmonolgog was pretty twisted.. I salute the twisted set!
	11:43pm Dave Mandl: @MK: Glad you liked it. Der Plan. They were the best,
	11:44pm Marmalade Kitty: monolgog! new word?
	11:47pm pete l: Thanks for great adventures tonight Dave
	11:49pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Pete.
	11:56pm Droll: Well under 2% this week, and not a hint of Mellotron. Fine job! I'll be back to check again next week.
	♥ 11:57pm 12539: Thanks Dave.
	11:57pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Droll. Deeply ashamed about the Mellotron oversight, but I'll make up for it next time.
	11:58pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, 125etc. Have a great week, everyone.

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from June 16, 2013

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June 16, 2013

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Sonny Clark	Somethin' Special "Somethin' Special" by "Sonny Clark"	Leapin' and Lopin'	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Gerd Dudek/Buschi Niebergall/Edward Vesala	Manchmal	Open	0:06:16 (Pop-up)
Roscoe Mitchell	Ornette (alternate)	Sound	0:12:16 (Pop-up)
Susie Ibarra / Denis Charles	Welcome	Drum Talk	0:17:37 (Pop-up)
Modern Jazz Quartet	Bag's Groove "Bag's Groove" by "Modern Jazz Quartet"	Dedicated to Connie	0:21:23 (Pop-up)

The Focus Group	Kinky Korner Klub	The Elektrik Karousel	0:33:05 (Pop-up)
The Static Tics	Nishapur or Balkh	My Favorite Tics	0:35:36 (Pop-up)
Miko	New Town "New Town" by "Miko"	Chandelier	0:39:17 (Pop-up)
Cluster & Eno	Ho Renomo "Ho Renomo" by "Cluster & Eno"	Cluster & Eno	0:43:45 (Pop-up)
Phil Minton Quartet	Back "Back" by "Phil Minton Quartet"	Slur	0:47:46 (Pop-up)

Luciano Cilio	Primo Quadro "Della Conoscenza" Da "Dialoghi Dal Presente"	Dell' Universo Assente	0:57:53 (Pop-up)
Circle	Wherever Particular People Congregate	Meronia	1:05:29 (Pop-up)
Der Musikant	Armer Tropf "Armer Tropf" by "Der Musikant"	Distanz	1:08:33 (Pop-up)
Peter Ivers	Cat Scratch Fever "Cat Scratch Fever" by "Peter Ivers"	Knight of the Blue Communion	1:11:23 (Pop-up)
Anne-James Chaton / Andy Moor	Not Guilty	Transfer	1:18:55 (Pop-up)

Richard Pinhas	Square "Square" by "Richard Pinhas"	Desolation Row	1:32:30 (Pop-up)
Crank Sturgeon & Lineland	Do That (Plural)	Other Occasions Not Minded	1:40:02 (Pop-up)
The Cinematic Orchestra	Ma Fleur "Ma Fleur" by "The Cinematic Orchestra"	Ma Fleur	1:44:41 (Pop-up)
Die Knödel	Duduradu "Duduradu" by "Die Knödel"	Panorama	1:48:34 (Pop-up)

Albert Ayler	Ghosts (live) "Ghosts (live)" by "Albert Ayler"	Holy Ghost	1:59:36 (Pop-up)
Momus	Oskar Tennis Champion "Oskar Tennis Champion" by "Momus"	Oskar Tennis Champion	2:07:02 (Pop-up)
Girolamo de Simone	Campane o della Solitudine	Shama	2:10:07 (Pop-up)
Art-Errorist & Acid Cobra	Crushed Croissants	Cold Waters	2:20:24 (Pop-up)
Ali Mohammed Bira	Awash "Awash" by "Ali Mohammed Bira"	Great Oromo Music: Ethipiques Vol 28	2:21:57 (Pop-up)

Area C	Trick with a Knife "Trick with a Knife" by "Area C"	Trick with a Knife	2:29:29 (Pop-up)
Der Plan	Der Todesmonolog "Der Todesmonolog" by "Der Plan"	Die Letzte Rache	2:35:51 (Pop-up)
Minamo	Draw the Line "Draw the Line" by "Minamo"	Documental	2:41:09 (Pop-up)
Ellen Fullman/Konrad Sprenger	Train	Ort	2:51:05 (Pop-up)
Mark Lanegan/Duke Garwood	Last Rung	Black Pudding	2:55:35 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:02pm Dave E: Hi Dave M
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, dear listeners.
	♥ 9:03pm BDR: World famous celebrity here. I'm inexplicably drawn to you.
	9:03pm deanland: Great way to start the program...always a tough task, following Monica!!
	9:03pm Dave E: Nice start to the show.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: And...we have our first Dave checking in. Hey.
	9:04pm Dave Mandl: And two non-Daves. Hey, dean/BDR.
	9:04pm Dave E: Mind if I call you Dave to avoid confusion?
	♥ 9:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: DAVES
	9:05pm Dave Mandl: @BDR: I know you've tried to resist, but it's hopeless.
	9:05pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, RRN63.
	9:06pm Dave E: The Dave club!
	9:06pm bloopy: hey there!
	9:07pm Dave E: Is Bloopy a Dave?
	♥ 9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Daves - NonDaves - 50-50%!...
	9:08pm Dave E: are you half Dave or half not Dave?
	9:08pm Dave Mandl: But each Dave is worth 1.2 non-Daves.
	9:08pm Dave Mandl: I see his Dave as half-full.
	9:09pm Dave E: How does one have a .2 non-Dave?
	♥ 9:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - oh - I'm a Dave, & I'm full of it awlright...
	9:10pm bloopy: non-dave i'm afraid
	♥ 9:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - soundin' like late Coltrane - & I like that very much Thx...
	9:11pm Dave E: oh well, join in on the Dave fun anyway.
	9:12pm Dave E: is that Dave M on drums?
	9:14pm Dave Mandl: @Dave E.: If you don't hear the drummer drop a stick, it's probably not me.
	9:15pm Dave E: Duct tape could fix that problem?
	9:19pm Dave Mandl: Ouch.
	9:20pm Dave E: Neat drum track, love them drums . . .
	9:20pm Dave E: ....meanwhile back in the jungle.
	♥ 9:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...they talk w/ drums...
	♥ 9:23pm 12539: I am enjoying your show. My name is not Dave. That is all for now.
	9:24pm Dave Mandl: But...that's not possible.
	9:24pm Dave E: time to put the timer on and head off to ZZZZZZZZ. Don't play anything to rough now.
	9:24pm deanland: About to put my set of 1966 Ludwig pearl drums, Zildian cymbals(ride, crash, sizzle, high-hat) and Gretsch accessories (mostly) into storage. Just no room for them, NYC being known for tight spaces.
	9:35pm Dave Mandl: Sounds like a beautiful kit. What color?
	9:37pm Droll: Type "Elektrik Karousel" into Google, Google responds "Did you mean: electric carousel" deanland, Good news, there's enough room here in Seattle for just such a kit!
	9:38pm Dave Mandl: How embarrassing for Google.
	♥ 9:40pm G: I evade Dave status :p
	9:41pm Dave Mandl: Subversive.
	♥ 9:41pm G: Bingo.
	9:49pm common: yes
	♥ 10:03pm G: Dell'Universo Assente = From/Of the Absent Universe
	♥ 10:03pm G: or, About the Absent Universe (sounding like a book title)
	10:04pm Droll: If the universe makes a sound and nobody is there to hear it...
	10:06pm deanland: The kit is gray pearl. it is total vintage of the era. It traveled well, from NY where I grew up to college in the Midwest, then to the south where I worked, up to Massachusetts (more work) then back to NY where it was with me in the burbs for a long time. One fellow at a gig saw it and told me he drooled over seeing a drummer with (get this!) "Ringo's drum set!"
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: Yup, not surprising.
	10:08pm Droll: HA! Do you also throw towels over them so they go thud-thud-thud?
	10:10pm Dave Mandl: Do you smoke a cigarette while you're playing?
	10:14pm deanland: @Droll: We did put a blanket in the bass drum for a little while until I got a new pedal. The old, original pedal (Ludwig) had poor action and needed to be thumped like mad, making it louder than intended -- for quite some time I tried retuning the drum -- then Roy Blumenfeld, drummer for the Blues Project, told me to try another pedal. Wow, was he ever correct. That was when I began slowly changing over slowly to all Gretsch accessories. @Dave: back in the early 70's maybe, but not for the 35+ years since I quit!!!!
	10:14pm Droll: I love the version of this on Double Live Gonzo!
	♥ 10:15pm 12539: Cat Scratch Fever! This should fall under the 2% Rock and roll, but somehow...
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: This is the Ted Nugent no one really knows.
	10:17pm deanland: I think maybe it is Ned Tugent.
	10:21pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: Good for you (quitting smoking). But I have to admit there's something cool about him smoking while he's playing in Hard Day's Night.
	10:24pm Droll: Funny, because Brian Epstein urged them to quit smoking and drinking onstage when they were in Germany. They couldn't escape the "naughty" image.
	10:26pm Droll: I love the head flopping back and forth Ringo look, but Paul is still my favorite Beatles drummer.
	10:27pm pete l: Peter ivers tune ruined me
	10:28pm common: this is great thank you
	10:30pm deanland: According to a Beatles book I read, on a number of the cuts on some early Beatles albums, George Martin called in a drummer, sort of the Hal Blaine of London, to cover the drum track. Ringo, it seemed. learned on the job, and was somewhat tutored by George Martin. Probably more in style than in chops.
	10:32pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: Hmmm, well there are a lot of legends about Ringo, but I believe there was only track that they used a session guy on. Love Me Do.
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: Actually, a version of the song that was never released.
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: True story: Bernard Purdie claims he played drums on many Beatle records, but Ringo got credit. Completely crazy.
	10:44pm deanland: Good to know re Love Me Do. I heard that the Purdie stories were false. There's a fellow named Scott Freiman who does lectures deconstructing the Beatles. He's an expert on these things, and gets his hands on all sorts of demos and outtakes and does INCREDIBLE lectures on the Beatles. www.beatleslectures.com
	10:45pm ottovonbqe: Then there's the people who believe Paul McCartney is alive - they're the craziest.
	10:45pm deanland: +1 @ottovonbqe!
	10:46pm Droll: Why would Purdie need to exaggerate his career? And to claim credit on such mediocre playing!
	10:47pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Good question. Also, come on, what's better-documented than the Beatles' recording sessions? I think someone would have seen Purdie if he'd really been there.
	10:48pm Dave Mandl: @ottovonbqe: I think the jury's still out on that.
	10:49pm dk: i've heard some guy named "richard starkey" also played on a bunch of beatles records, but i'm not buying it for a second. lots of crazy conspiracy theories around that band, i tell you.
	10:54pm deanland: Rumor has it that Richard Starkey married a descendant of Johannes Sebastian Bach.
	10:55pm Droll: dk, There's also some crackpot, Pete Best, always saying "Me too!" I'm sticking with the Walrus as best Beatles drummer.
	11:01pm Dave Mandl: @deanland: True She restored hotness to the Bach family.
	11:04pm deanland: This Ayler piece sounds like it bore a lot of influence on Chris MacGregor's Brotherhood of Breath (which can only be heard, it seems, on WFMU).
	11:05pm deanland: Well, Dave, JS and CPO Bach really wore out the women in their lives!
	11:06pm dk: welp, this ayler box set just went straight onto the lust-object list.
	11:06pm mark Flynn: These guys do get Ornette, and to be honest, they get his mindset without being extremely obtuse. I appreciate Ornette for what he brought to the table, but his recordings are documents that would be revaluations live but most are difficult to absorb on vinyl.
	11:16pm trs: fyi from this eve http://youtu.be/MA4j4TLznE0?t=3m02s ( http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson)
	11:19pm mark Flynn: Thought the Ayler piece was Mostly Other People DoThe Killing. Props to Ayler.
	11:35pm deanland: Gotta run.....back next week to take in the sounds.......
	11:36pm Dave Mandl: Take care, @deanland. And take care of that drumset.
	11:38pm Droll: I thought we agreed I was going to take care of the kit.
	11:40pm Dave Mandl: Well, you guys need to work that out.
	11:42pm Marmalade Kitty: Der Todesmonolgog was pretty twisted.. I salute the twisted set!
	11:43pm Dave Mandl: @MK: Glad you liked it. Der Plan. They were the best,
	11:44pm Marmalade Kitty: monolgog! new word?
	11:47pm pete l: Thanks for great adventures tonight Dave
	11:49pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Pete.
	11:56pm Droll: Well under 2% this week, and not a hint of Mellotron. Fine job! I'll be back to check again next week.
	♥ 11:57pm 12539: Thanks Dave.
	11:57pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, Droll. Deeply ashamed about the Mellotron oversight, but I'll make up for it next time.
	11:58pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, 125etc. Have a great week, everyone.

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from June 16, 2013

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