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Favoriting February 5, 2015: ISIS - Cops - Calls - Hair Metal - KurdPop - Mini-Op (The Baldilachs)

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments
Cinderella  Somebody Save Me   Favoriting Night Songs  Mercury/Vertigo  1986  MP3  Love this. 
 
An Interview with Two Undercover Cops in front of Madison Square Garden
 
Spider Marks on Boko Haram - Audio Courtesy of CNN
 
What do we do about ISIS?
 
CBS audio concerning Bombing of ISIS in Northern Iraq
 
ABC Audio Concerning Captured American Woman
Tim Story  Oil On Wood   Favoriting Glass Green  Windham Hill  1987  LP  music in background 
 
Messages of Peace and Love
 
Footage from The Dusty Show the night Zuccotti was Shut Down
Tim Story  Glass Green   Favoriting Glass Green  Windham Hill   1987  LP  music in background 
Karwan Hawramy  Dilim Tenga   Favoriting Dilim Tenge  ?  2010  MP3  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5YfhyZT26c 
Mohammed El-Bakkar  Rahks Port Said (Excerpt)   Favoriting   Audio Fidelity  1957  LP  I believe this music is from Egypt. 
 
Audio courtesy of Amy Goodman and Democracy Now
 
Young Hockey Fan At Madison Square Garden Talks About ISIS
 
President Obama Speaks in the Wake of the Jordanian Pilot's Death
 
Asking For Your Feedback 201 209 9368
 
Bobby In Irvington
 
The Hollywood Aspect
 
Withdraw From It
 
Bobby Continues ...
 
John in Staten Island
 
Limited Nuclear Strikes
 
Bob in Bridgewater
 
Lost His Brother on 9/11
 
Bob's View of Things
  tim story in the background repeating two songs from before
 
Bennett In Brooklyn
 
No Options
 
Uneducated Young People
 
Bennett on Education and Brutality
 
His Message
Enuff Z'Nuff  Fly High Michelle   Favoriting Enuff Z'nuff  ATCO  1989  LP  Sounds good all thee years later. Kind of digging the hair metal again. Why not!? 
 
Guiffria Mention!
 
The Baldilachs a mini-operetta by C. Pigeon
Scott Walker  Farmer in the City   Favoriting Tilt  Drag City  1997  MP3  I like the title, and the thought of a young man leaving the farm and going to the city. I was part of that migration. i didn't grow up on a farm, but I did leave a very small mid-western town - this song makes me try adn recount the feeling of being back there again in those days - the smell of the air - the old neighborhood. people. buildings. 
 
Visiting with you for a Moment
 
Sousa
Lindsay Lohan  Rumors   Favoriting Rumors  Casablanca  2004  MP3   
  Thanks for listening to this episode of The Dusty Show. I enjoyed being in the studio and putting the various elements together on the fly. That's always a "rush" as they used to say. I do look forward to each Thursday at 6. Terrible things going on that we discuss on this show. ISIS and the atrocities in Africa. Heavy times. But we will get through them and make the world better in due time. Thanks for listening and tune in next week for the Abe Lincoln's Birthday/Valentimes Edition of Dusty. You are incredible. Alwasy Remember ... Muadh al Kasasbeh.


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Listener comments!

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common:

hey hey clay! people!
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Clay Pigeon:

Hello!
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V Priceless:

Evenin' Clay and Pidgepersons!
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david_:

hello all!
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Slick Goldtooth:

How you livin' Clay?
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Matt from Springfield:

Hi Clay and Pigeonnaires!
Cheer us up over these depressing foreign events!
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Marcel M:

Hi Clay and friends.
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Marcel M:

The MTA responds quicker for white people for gods sake
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david_:

Sometimes the answer to "what do we do?" is actually "nothing."
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Clay Pigeon:

good to see you all!
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david_:

they really named an aircraft carrier after Bush 41? Wow...
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V Priceless:

@david_: yeah...I could see a Big Wheel, maybe...
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MenfussMike:

Eric Brittingham, Jeff Labar, Fred Coury
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Slick Goldtooth:

Eeesh, that's just as bad as when my college wanted to name a dormitory building after Aaron Burr because he was from NJ
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dale:

we should all just kill each other until canada and sweden are all that's left.
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Matt from Springfield:

@david: Remember, every President gets an aircraft carrier! No matter if we actually need another one, it's practically an insult to not give each President a carrier name!
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MenfussMike:

is it lame that I know most of the names of the Cinderella dudes?
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david_:

heheh, V... Obama's the best president in a generation... the problem is, that's not saying much...
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common:

cinderella, philly's own! that's great menfuss mike!
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Matt from Springfield:

@Menfuss: Most places that might be the case, but don't worry, nothing's lame at WFMU! :)
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glenn:

the whole middle east is a gigantic clusterfuck.
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dale:

i saw an angel album at a thrift yesterday - thought of clay and had to turn the album upside down to see the logo
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coelacanth:

dale -i'd agree with you if i lived in canada or sweden!
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Matt from Springfield:

Charlie Foxtrot! Hey glenn!
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cory:

fuck these pigs
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Marcel M:

Did he say Clay looked like a Doobie Brother??? Or did I imagine that...?
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Carmichael:

Got here just in time to save the world. Heya Clay and peeps.
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MenfussMike:

haha thanks Matt.
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Matt from Springfield:

Carm with the Charm!
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Slick Goldtooth:

As much as Sweden and Canada seem like the more sane countries out there, they do have their share of issues in their own realm.
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david_:

an aircraft carrier for everyone!
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glenn:

slick speaks truth.
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glenn:

and hey, matt f.s.
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Carmichael:

I heard that 95% of Sweden's population lives less than 5 miles away from the U.S. border.
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david_:

we need an aircraft carrier named after GG Allin.
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Polyus:

Burned alive, beheaded - what's the difference Clay?
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common:

HEY MATT...sorry that was so loud.
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Slater:

they love Argent in kurdistan
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Matt from Springfield:

(loads shotgun) Over mah DEAD BODY THEY IS!!!
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david_:

I always add TNP to my chili.
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Slick Goldtooth:

If there's any boat that would be named after GG, it had to be a trash barge.
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Cecile:

this is kind of a good jam.
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Matt from Springfield:

That was @Carm :)
And HEEYYYYYY COMMON!!

@david: The official ship of Portsmouth NH! ;)
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glenn:

oh, i'd rather be beheaded than burned alive, believe me.
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e12:

always a joy to be here clay
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david_:

ISIS hates us for our autotune.
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dale:

had my shortwave on earlier and was listening to some kind of muslim devotional singing (whatever you would call id, not even sure if it as muslim) - quite beautiful
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david_:

that would be legendary, Matt!
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glenn:

and i'd rather be burned alive than gibbetted.
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Carmichael:

Dale is truly a man of the airwaves.
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V Priceless:

did he just say Papa John??
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Matt from Springfield:

I saw an article in the Guardian by Michael Booth, and later a facsimile article for the American audience, about how Scandinavia has issues too, they're not perfect:
www.theguardian.com...
www.washingtonpost.com...
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davex:

Great music, Clay!
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Marcel M:

The prophet hath said to never tune ones voice automatically
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Eric:

RE: ISIS, this whole situation was created on purpose and was achieved by disbanding the Iraqi military. Then we arm this fake army that retreats as soon as they're attacked and leaves behind all the weapons and hardware that we gave them for the terrorists to use.
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coelacanth:

i think its safe to assume there's no bullshit free nation.
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Matt from Springfield:

@david: Adding on to Slick's idea, it could be a refueling ship, since oil is pretty filthy!

@Marcel: Except in North Africa there are many many Autotuners adding their own touch to their native music. In fact N. African music is the only sound that really works well under Autotune.
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joey the sleaze:

What were that last song called?
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SeanG:

thanks for those links Matt
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cory:

how many people have american soldiers burned alive? what's the big deal?
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Matt from Springfield:

Well said, coelacanth!

Hi davex!
And my pleash, Sean!
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Cecile:

Matt, there is also some great autotuned music from Ghana and Nigeria.
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david_:

"take care" of Saddam -> "take care" of Sunni and Shia insurgents -> "take care" of Al Qaeda -> "take care" of ISIS -> ????
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Cecile:

every country has its skeletons in the closet.
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coelacanth:

i dont like "autotune" under any circumstances; except the very early tunes where it was an obvious novelty.
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Matt from Springfield:

Traditionally known as "West Africa", but I'll point out that's still in the northern half of the continent, Cecile ;)

And I love the music of Ghana and Nigeria! The Francophone nations of Benin and Gabon also do AMAZING music!
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coelacanth:

King Sunny Ade didn't use autotune!
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Cecile:

I guess I wasn't lumping them in with North Africa, Matt, just saying there are other nations out there making cool music with autotune. sorry about the confustion.

No, but he used synths.
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david_:

Every country has its Grateful Dead hits compilation... good point, Cecile. ;)
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Cecile:

well, gotta go!
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dale:

carmichael - the sunspot cycle is favorable again - get a little tecsun pl-660 and enjoy yourself!
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Matt from Springfield:

@Cecile: No confusion, I just make light of geography like that! You're okay!

And have a great evening!
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coelacanth:

he used lots of synth; but he used them well.

ciao,Cecile.
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davex:

Hey, Matt!

@Last caller: Great point about listening...
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davex:

What is wrong with all these angry and ignorant people?
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dale:

nuke em all - let allah sort em out!
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Matt from Springfield:

OoooooooooHH! Did that caller really just..?!
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MenfussMike:

message of peace n love? Bomb them!
  6:28pm
wewe:

doosh, the populations are being forced to hide them
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Matt from Springfield:

Asshole callers have been aired before but did he really say "you dumb Jew"?!?! That's just a whole 'nother ballgame now...
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glenn:

oh boy, believing in god is what is causing this mess.
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northguineahills:

Nuke the whales!

Gotta nuke something!
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Polyus:

I thought he said "don't you?", in response to Clay's question.
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davex:

Those populations are being terrorized by them. Can't believe much of what I'm hearing tonight.
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Eric:

so they're setting this all up for big show down JEB vs. ISIS, he'll do what Obama was too wus to do, and everyone has to support him because ISIS really are evil fuckers! nobody can deny that, and islamo fascism is just as bad as euro christian fascism in it's historical and current guises...
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Matt from Springfield:

Incidentally there never is a good answer on tough controversies when someone begins it with "I think we should..." I can offer what I "think" we should do, but looking at these answers it's never easy.
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davex:

@Matt: That's what I thought I heard too.
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Matt from Springfield:

@NGH: Haha, yes! Thanks for lightening this mood! :)
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coelacanth:

if he lost a family member,he should rage against the bush (etc) empire.
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david_:

this caller thinks the Iran-Iraq war was still happening in 2003... ok...
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common:

thanks coelacanth
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Matt from Springfield:

@davex: You too? Man....

Jordan is bordering Syria/ISIS, so I can understand their offensive, this is like a 9/11 to them.
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V Priceless:

to over -simplify: abolish all religion, legalize all drugs. problems solved.
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dale:

we created isis by making a couple of huge vacuums in those countries. and we can't keep our asses out of anybodies' business so we keep the oil flowing. we are just a bunch of selfish dumb fucks. the bush family dumber than most. but realistically clinton had intel on 9/11 and was too busy dicking around. it's not a dem/rep thing - it's selfish stupid insular chest beating americanism
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Matt from Springfield:

Internationalized radical gang. Instead of just roughing up your block you can join a worldwide movement you heard about on the 'Net. Like street gangs, (or Nazi Germany, Clay), but more intense and harmful in scope.
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davex:

"All they understand is fear." A lot of them are nihilists from western countries on an adrenaline kick. On what basis do people make these presumptions? Is this a projection?
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Matt from Springfield:

@Polyus: I'll listen for it, I certainly hope that was the case (but I'm not betting on it...)
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david_:

enuff z'nuff! I have this on a cassingle.
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common:

enuff znuff! if my friend brian is listening right now, clay, you've made him the happiest human on earth!
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Philthy woman:

And what about the nonviolent people who are loosing loved ones there? Nuke um? I guess empathy does not cross the ocean for some
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coelacanth:

V -that would work,if people would WILLINGLY give up their crutches.
Matt i think it was "dont you". then Clay's response was shaky!
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SeanG:

remember Guiffria??
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david_:

spot on, dale.
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Carmichael:

That's how we beat the terrorists: with hair band music! Drop some Cinderella on 'em, Clay!
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common:

well stated, philthy
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cory:

isn't that outlawed by the Geneva Convention Carmichael. White Lion is permitted however.
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Matt from Springfield:

@Carm: Add Kix and Britny Fox to the sortie and we can defeat these bastards for good!!
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Phil:

Clay, That police officer is uninformed with respect to where Oil is. It's not a black thing. Nigeria is a member of opec and #13 in global production - It's bonny light crude is also considered some of the best available. We didn't intervene there because it's hard to distinguish friend from foe, in spite of Michelle Obama's feckless pleading. We did not intervene in Sudan and this is a growing producer in spite of the egregious human riots violations committed in darfur. I understand it's almost reflexive for african americans to blame someone else when some unexplainable issue confronts them but get your facts straight when assigning blame. This applies to when cops don't get indicted for shooting criminals in MO or the US intervening in another nation's affairs uninvited like Nigeria or Sudan.
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Matt from Springfield:

@cory: Because they have a *conscience*!...

Ha ha, Clay knows Guiffria! :D
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common:

i had the first guiffria on the cassettes.
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cosmic matrix:

YYYEEESS!!!! it's happening again.
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cory:

i'm feeling like a grumpy butthole. imma wander of and do things
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glenn:

you'll never, ever, ever defeat terrorists. it's best to just accept that.
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Philthy woman:

AghhhhhhYES! Dusty radio musical play- much needed right now. Liftin us up Dusty!
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Grim:

Don't take headlines at face value. ISIS is a CIA creation used to justify endless global war. It's like no one has seen Wag the Dog or the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen.
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Matt from Springfield:

@glenn: Or, don't try to "defeat terrorists": instead don't let them defeat you.
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Carmichael:

I think the LSD I took during Fabio's show is kicking in ...
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Matt from Springfield:

@Philthy: I've called these one-man recordings "Pigeon Public Radio" :)
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dale:

these are little operettas. gilbert and sullivan and pigeon!
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glenn:

v has the right idea. get rid of god and prohibition.
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Matt from Springfield:

@Carm: Dude, my water must be spiked then!...

@dale: "Operettas", that's it!
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V Priceless:

@ Grim: OMG! I can't believe you mentioned that pilot episode of The Lone Gunman! That's haunted me for ages!
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common:

do you transcribe these works, clay? just tryin to imagine how you does do it.
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glenn:

torpor!
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Pete from Boston (and NJ):

This show was making me sad, but with plenty of lip stiffener I have returned to glee.
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david_:

Gilbert O'Sullivan
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Malky:

@Phil One of the many reasons why the US didn't do any real intervention in Darfur region was due to not pissing off China who happens to own one of many cheque books. China got land, resource, and water rights in exchange for giving arms and gear to militias that were displacing people.

Here's a great bbc article on China's involvement in the region, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7503428.stm
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Carmichael:

The Lone Gunmen were totally cool!
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cosmic matrix:

wow, THIS IS SO GOOD. as usual....
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glenn:

clay's picked up his game since hearty's been on wfmu. :)
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V Priceless:

"men"..that pilot..whoa! Long-forgotten by most, but too creepy.
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Alan from Sac:

how has everyone dealt with real evil or real bullies successfully? we have lots of resources we haven't used against cirrhISIS besides bombs. we can't destroy evil. but we can compete with it and outsell it and ... . it doesn't seem like killing ISIS members, even if identified correctly would be a very successful long term strategy. What do they care? and it just makes their brand stronger. there's lots we can do against them without reaching into the bottomless ineffective pit of american military action. love and peace to everyone. and the occasional orgasm.
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common:

and now...scott walker
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listener monica:

Remember the khmer rouge, the crusades, salem witch trials, the colonization of the americas... Human beings have historically committed horrific cruelties on massive scales.
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V Priceless:

@ common: exactly!
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Matt from Springfield:

Oh! "The Lone Gunmen" was the X-Files spinoff on Fox in 2001. I watched that! And the pilot: I don't remember that, but dear Lord, that was in EARLY 2001!

"the trio soon find themselves unravelling a government conspiracy concerning an attempt to fly a commercial aircraft into the Twin Towers, with increased arms sales for the United States as an intended result." !!!
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Matt from Springfield:

@common: "Who am I, 21" that's what Clay always sings! I guess this is the song.
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common:

vp and matt: so good! all he does methinks
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glenn:

isis don't need no stinkin' orgasms.
  6:52pm
Jeremy:

What was that "Baldilocks" song?
  6:52pm
SeanG:

is this fabio singing?
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Carmichael:

Alan, I'm also in Sac. Rancho at the moment.
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Clay Pigeon:

Thanks so much for listening and for all your comments everyone. I appreciate it. Jeremy that was a little opera I wrote this week. Love to you all ... always remember.
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Matt from Springfield:

@Jeremy: I'm guessing it was: "Clay's 'Baldilocks' Song"! :)
  6:54pm
Jeremy:

wow
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V Priceless:

thought-provoking all around! Nice work, Clay & fellow commenters!
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coelacanth:

Eric, & Grim -Yes unfortunately...people seem to forget these strategies from moment to moment.
hitler did it. reagan did it. both bushes did it.
etc.
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Philthy woman:

Clay, I mean; not dusty. Loved the musical punishment poem. Aptly placed, between the interviews n calls and Scott Walker
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Matt from Springfield:

@VP: Yes! All of Clay's segments (to include Fab!) and all the commenters, it's a holistic experience we keep coming back for!

Thanks Clay, for bringing this magic every week!
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coelacanth:

they use the same strategy with gasoline prices.
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common:

thanks clay and everyone
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Marcel M:

Thanks Clay
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Matt from Springfield:

Sousa invented the sousaphone! You don't get much more *METAL* than that! :D
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V Priceless:

thanks Clay..you gotta get 3 hours...
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coelacanth:

Clay you should list your skits separately on the playlist so we can Star them.
Thanx for the show!
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Philthy woman:

Yes, Clay, I was riding the subway to work this AM looking forward to tonight- every week and every thursday you and WFMU peoples give something to look forward to, to make it through
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SeanG:

that japanese band Loudness
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Matt from Springfield:

Thanks for another amazing show! AR, keep your memories close and don't let them go!

Have a good night! See you next week!
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Marcel M:

Amen Philthy!
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Matt from Springfield:

Good idea, coelacanth!
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dale:

lone gunmen had an episode where a terrorist was flying a jet into the wtc. it is freaky to see it in retrospect
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davex:

Thanks Clay, for going to dark places with people and maintaining your own light.
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dale:

there's no singing to this - it's all compooter enhanced drivel
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Phil:

@Malky - Mia Farrow of all people did what the US Govt could not or would not do. She shrewdly brought some of the things the Chinese were doing to prop up the Sudanese Govt and successfully persuaded the nation's largest pension fund CalPers to divest of Chinese energy companies it was invested in particularly Petro China and the stock has never recovered. Many other socially conscious funds followed suit - It was a master stroke.

The Chinese are 100pct responsible for the ongoing horror in Darfur because they furnish the govt with support - The govt in turn sells all their oil to Petro china and others Chinese corps like SinoPec. But their presence is felt all over Africa now on the East and West coasts. They are amoral in their support and provide aid and assistance to Govt's civilized nations have tried to marginalize. They also sell their veto vote on the UN Security Council which is another reason the UN has never had a meaningful presence in Sudan and other places that conflict with Chinese interests.
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V Priceless:

@ dale - yeah that was the pilot episode!
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Polyus:

Come on Fabio, get down!
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dale:

ahhh, v p.....
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