WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from December 9, 2015

Listener comments!
	♥ 6:59pm Rich in Washington: Greetings, Gary! Excited about this show!
	♥ 7:00pm Gary: Hi Rich! I'm pretty excited myself -- I love all three of these recordings so, so much
	7:00pm ndbob: evening Gary Rich everyone!
	♥ 7:01pm Gary: Howdy, Bob!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:03pm listener james from westwood: How do, Gary and all!!
	♥ 7:05pm Rich in Washington: Hi Gary, ndbob, listener james!
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hey, James!
	♥ 7:08pm Rich in Washington: I really love Farid's stuff. I don't have a lot of it, but his voice is so haunting.
	♥ 7:09pm Gary: Are you guys able to hear the noises Farid is making occasionally, sort of like Glenn Gould? It happens less in the more intense parts. You can't really hear it on the vinyl version, but whoever did the CD rerelease made it a bit more prominent
	♥ 7:11pm Gary: You can get the French pressing of this album in a vinyl-to-digital transfer on Snap Crackle & Pop's blog:snapcrackleandpops.blogspot.com...
	♥ 7:12pm Gary: But the version we're listening to tonight has about 8-10 extra minutes.
	♥ 7:24pm Doug Schulkind: Thrilling.
	♥ 7:25pm Gary: Doug!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:41pm listener james from westwood: This is delightful, AND Santa Claus just passed outside my window on a fire truck. This is a golden age!
	7:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening ! ...somebody is testifying...
	♥ 7:43pm Gary: Howdy, RevRab!
	♥ 7:46pm Gary: Ooh! If Santa drives by again, tell him (a) I've been good and (b) I'd like this: www.forcedexposure.com...
	7:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm in Lebanon! ...Lebanon, New Hampshire...
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: Haw! :)
	7:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...surely 'kismet' is an Arabic word...
	♥ 7:51pm Gary: It's also Urdu and Persian ...
	7:59pm ndbob: excellent first hour Gary! - catch the rest on the archive
	♥ 8:00pm Gary: Night, Bob!
	♥ 8:00pm hyde: tagging in for ndb!
	♥ 8:00pm Gary: Hyde!
	8:10pm glenn: jekyll!
	♥ 8:12pm Gary: Glenn!
	8:13pm glenn: this fits with the chicken / chick pea / rice thingy i'm making for dinner.
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: Mmm, that reminds me, I haven't had dinner yet.
	♥ 8:21pm Doug Schulkind: I made quesadillas. It fits! It fits!
	♥ 8:22pm Gary: Quesadillas go with everything!
	♥ 8:24pm melinda: Enjoying the show.
	♥ 8:27pm hyde: i already ate dinner, but now i want quesadillas
	♥ 8:27pm Doug Schulkind: I upload some, hyde. Email me for the password.
	♥ 8:28pm Gary: Hi Melinda! That does it, I'm going to run and pull the last of my stew out of the fridge and put it on the stove, quick-like
	♥ 8:31pm hyde: @Doug if you have uploadable quesadillas, don't go givin' 'em away for free. you're sitting on a gold mine!
	♥ 8:34pm Doug Schulkind: Who said they were free?
	♥ 8:36pm Gary: Quesadilla never free-ah
	♥ 8:38pm hyde: once you download the quesadillas they take over your hard drive
	♥ 8:48pm Doug Schulkind: Chipotle's quesadillas have gone viral.
	♥ 8:49pm melinda: For some reason this kind of music sounds especially good in cold weather, to me.
	♥ 8:51pm Gary: [desperately configuring some sort of pun out of "norovirus"] [... and failing]
	8:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...nor various alternatives...
	8:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...in that - case we'll deal w/ ya - best we can...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:56pm Uncle Michael: Good evening.
	8:56pm Dean: Downloading quesadillas over fiber optic makes for healthier...downloads.
	♥ 8:56pm Gary: Uncle Michael! Dean!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:57pm Uncle Michael: That cheese will bind up your cable.
	♥ 9:00pm Doug Schulkind: The quesadillas from Taco Bell cause projectile downloading.
	♥ 9:00pm Rich in Washington: Fantastic show so far. I think everyone in my office is gone now. They were all eyeing me weirdly. But they do that anyway.
	9:00pm Peter Nelson: Fckn hate Radiohead.
	♥ 9:02pm Rich in Washington: I don't hate them. I would have to listen to more of their music to make an informed hatred of them and I don't wanna do that.
	♥ 9:03pm Rich in Washington: but I think they're one of those bands that are a sort of amalgam of other people's ideas who knew how to present it in bland, safe manner for mainstream people.
	9:03pm Sarah N: Radiohead make me want to eat my own head. Hello Gary & fellow popheads.
	♥ 9:03pm Rich in Washington: POP!
	♥ 9:04pm Rich in Washington: Peter, I am still enjoying that whole 'nut' show.
	♥ 9:04pm Gary: Hey Peter and Sarah!
	♥ 9:05pm hyde: i have never liked radiohead at all, but i find that i really like jonny greenwood's soundtracks a lot. not sure what's up with that.
	♥ 9:05pm Rich in Washington: Aw crap! I need to go. They're turning off the lights. See you on the flipper flopper, Gary, fellow Bodegans!
	♥ 9:05pm Gary: Yes, I loved the nut show, too!
	♥ 9:05pm Gary: Have a great night, Rich!
	9:06pm Sarah N: Byeee Rich!
	9:07pm Dean: The fuck is it with Radiohead recently at 'FMU? Yesterday a discussion of the merits of he group took place during one of the live shows.
	♥ 9:08pm Gary: Maybe it's that Prince video, Dean?
	9:10pm Dean: Prince video? (Funny, but on another forum earlier today, a work-related one, I invoked Prince for reasons pertaining to authority control in cataloging and primary keys in relational database structure.)
	9:10pm Peter Nelson: Don't get me started on that prince &^!!@$$(*. I am ashamed to share a surname with him.
	♥ 9:12pm Gary: Haw! Actually, I do like Prince, I have to admit. But, then, I also lived in Minneapolis for 6 years in the 90s
	♥ 9:13pm Gary: Oh, and if you haven't figured it out, the track we're listening to now is the record you're seeing over there to the left. (The man in black is Abdel.)
	♥ 9:13pm Doug Schulkind: I'm pretty sure I've never heard a Radiohead song.
	9:14pm Dean: I bet you have, Doug, and I bet it's "Creep," an early hit, before they were recognized as geniuses.
	♥ 9:19pm Doug Schulkind: Meanwhile, this Hafez performance is electrifying.
	♥ 9:21pm Ike: I didn't get Radiohead at all until I listened to a few of their mid-career or later albums all the way through. Oddly enough, the albums often add up to more than the sum of their parts. (DJ Bethany likes them too.) Still way over-hyped though.
	♥ 9:22pm Gary: Ike!
	♥ 9:23pm coelacanth: olá Gary and Bodegatrons ...better late than never right?
	♥ 9:24pm Gary: We've still got 35 minutes to go on this Halim Hafez track, Coelacanth!
	♥ 9:25pm coelacanth: considering i haven't been able to catch your show at all in weeks, i feel lucky!
	9:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @ the time I thot - hey! - this Radiohead is like a U2 that doesn't suck ...'Optimistic' randomly coming from a car or truck on the street... ...but then - it was like : go FreeForm, & even an alternative to Alternative seems irrelevant... I like Radiohead. Thom Yorke is apparently one of those hyper-aware persons - which makes the name 'Radiohead' appropriate. They Neuroticize themselves into excellence - which is the opposite of what many think Rock'n'Rolla is supposed to be all about - but Rules Schmules... Gary - this is incredible. Like I said about Native American stuff on Rob Weisberrg's show: A different kind of Soul music.
	♥ 9:31pm Gary: I think it is only a matter of time before some enterprising reissue label puts together a Baligh Hamdi package of some kind
	9:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My thing w/ Prince is: I am gobsmacked by his abilities to do - literally - anything - but then - why I am okay w/ not owning anything by him? Blame MTV?
	♥ 9:33pm Gary: Prince was -- at least for the first part of his career -- super over exposed. And while I loved those early albums, I also don't own any -- I just feel like I can do all those songs in my head. I'm kind of curious about all of the stuff I haven't heard, tho
	♥ 9:38pm hyde: i still own those early albums. i also went to see purple rain about 3 times the year it came out. (a couple were 99 cent wednesday shows at the calvin theater, but still)
	♥ 9:39pm melinda: I don't think it's weird to not own any Prince.
	♥ 9:39pm Gary: Y'all know about the Purple Rain remake filmed in the Sahara, yeah?
	♥ 9:39pm coelacanth: yeah Rev, there are lots of folks who are close-minded to radiohead, like with the beatles, just because they got popular. meanwhile it's not "commercial" music at all. if anything they helped open the world up for many who would've decended further into commercial radio crap. their first 2 albums were basic guitar rock,though a notch beyond their peers, so they got known; but if those 2 albums hadn't happened they would be okay with all those who think they're too cool,or pretend they're too sophisticated for it. (ironic since it's far more sophisticated than lots of "cool" groups that get heavy wfmu airplay)
	♥ 9:40pm Gary: Mr. Sahel Sounds made it: www.theguardian.com...
	♥ 9:43pm hyde: @Gary i'm dying to see that
	♥ 9:44pm Gary: I appreciate what you're saying Coelacanth & RevRab ... but I don't think it's quite so black and white. I love the Beatles (altho, like Prince, I don't own any of the albums anymore -- can do it all in the head), but I have a visceral reaction to Radiohead. I think it may even come down to the guy's voice grating on me in a very deeply physical way. (Deeply Physical Way -- now there's an 80s song title for you)
	♥ 9:47pm Gary: We think of pop music (and alt music is pop music, in the sense I'm thinking of) as being somehow objective (not the right word, but) -- so liking or disliking we tell ourselves is about semiotics and identity, kind of -- but there's a completely visceral component to it
	9:47pm Dean: Thom Yorke's voice, yes. This was the topic of yesterday's discussion, too. I can't bear the whiny bellowing.
	♥ 9:47pm hyde: ok, got to cut out a couple minutes early. thanks Gary!
	♥ 9:47pm coelacanth: yeah his voice isn't wonderful. ...but i wasn't saying that everyone who dislikes them do for the reason i said.
	♥ 9:48pm Gary: Night, Hyde!
	9:48pm Dean: I confuse him with the Coldplay guy, too. That can't be good.
	♥ 9:50pm coelacanth: i can barely stand dinosaur jr. because of his voice. i can't seem to get past it,even though people (wfmu) tells me it's cool to like it!
	9:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm a stone Beatlemaniac - they had me @ the Cartoons in my toddlerhood. Just no getting round an aesthetic distaste for a voice. Yorke said he was working w/ Bjork - & he broke emotionally - & she told him that was very selfish - & he acknowledged she was right. In Pop/Rawk - it's as much about distinctive Sounds as Musically Technical attributes. Yorke has a distinctive voice: he sounds like himself - & is expressive - & that's usually half the battle. People often say this about voices in Pop Music...
	♥ 9:52pm Gary: ^True
	9:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (...that they just don't like a voice...)
	9:54pm Dean: Well, yeah, except when he sounds like the Coldplay guy, or vice versa.
	♥ 9:56pm Gary: Only three minutes of this awesomeness left, speaking of voices
	9:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...also: maybe the 1990s are exactly too close & too far away to be 'cool' nostalgia yet?? (It used to take 20 years)...
	♥ 9:57pm coelacanth: i'm pretty sure coldplay modelled themselves after radiohead. ...well,i'm sure of it! (except they're boring and not politically relevant)
	♥ 10:00pm coelacanth: That ruled!
	10:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Uh-mazing Gary.
	♥ 10:03pm coelacanth: Thanks Gary i guess i have to go back and check out those other feature-length tracks! later on y'all.
	10:03pm Sarah N: Thanks Gary. Major grooviness!
	♥ 10:04pm Gary: Thanks, gang, and see you somewhere around these parts soon!

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from December 9, 2015

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December 9, 2015: Farid Al Atrash | Abdel Halim Hafez | Warda
Tonight we'll hear three of the greatest live performances ever recorded.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Intro "Intro" by "Bodega Pop"	Bodega Pop Live		2015
Farid al-Atrache	Awal Hamsa "Awal Hamsa" by "Farid al-Atrache"	Awal Hamsa	Cairophon	1972	Syria \| Lebanon \| Egypt - Composed by Farid al-Atrache with lyrics by Ma'moun El Shinnawi. Recorded live two years before the singer / composer / oud player's death. Listen closely, and you can hear Farid making noises in the beginning, not unlike Glenn Gould
Music behind DJ: Omar Khorshid	Awal Hamsa "Awal Hamsa" by "Omar Khorshid"	Tribute to Farid al-Atrache	Voix de l'Orient	1977	Egypt
Warda	Ahdoulnu al-Ayam "Ahdoulnu al-Ayam" by "Warda"	Ahdoulnu al-Ayam	Voice of Lebanon	1976	France \| Algeria \| Egypt \| Lebanon \| Composed by Warda's then-husband Baligh Hamdi with lyrics by Sayed Morsi. Possibly recorded in Yemen. Omar Khorshid on guitar.
Music behind DJ: Omar Khorshid	Ahwak "Ahwak" by "Omar Khorshid"	Omar Khorshid with Love	Voice of Lebanon	1977	Egypt
Abdel Halim Hafez	Mawood "Mawood" by "Abdel Halim Hafez"	Mawood	Soutelphan	1971	Egypt \| Baligh Hamdi composition with lyrics by Mohamed Hassan. Recorded in 1971 with Omar Khorshid on guitar, Mokhtar Sayed on organ, Samir Sarour on saxophone and Hamidu on accordion
Music behind DJ: Catrina Paslaru	Hei La Bodega "Hei La Bodega" by "Catrina Paslaru"	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!		2000

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Listener comments!
	♥ 6:59pm Rich in Washington: Greetings, Gary! Excited about this show!
	♥ 7:00pm Gary: Hi Rich! I'm pretty excited myself -- I love all three of these recordings so, so much
	7:00pm ndbob: evening Gary Rich everyone!
	♥ 7:01pm Gary: Howdy, Bob!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:03pm listener james from westwood: How do, Gary and all!!
	♥ 7:05pm Rich in Washington: Hi Gary, ndbob, listener james!
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Hey, James!
	♥ 7:08pm Rich in Washington: I really love Farid's stuff. I don't have a lot of it, but his voice is so haunting.
	♥ 7:09pm Gary: Are you guys able to hear the noises Farid is making occasionally, sort of like Glenn Gould? It happens less in the more intense parts. You can't really hear it on the vinyl version, but whoever did the CD rerelease made it a bit more prominent
	♥ 7:11pm Gary: You can get the French pressing of this album in a vinyl-to-digital transfer on Snap Crackle & Pop's blog:snapcrackleandpops.blogspot.com...
	♥ 7:12pm Gary: But the version we're listening to tonight has about 8-10 extra minutes.
	♥ 7:24pm Doug Schulkind: Thrilling.
	♥ 7:25pm Gary: Doug!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:41pm listener james from westwood: This is delightful, AND Santa Claus just passed outside my window on a fire truck. This is a golden age!
	7:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening ! ...somebody is testifying...
	♥ 7:43pm Gary: Howdy, RevRab!
	♥ 7:46pm Gary: Ooh! If Santa drives by again, tell him (a) I've been good and (b) I'd like this: www.forcedexposure.com...
	7:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm in Lebanon! ...Lebanon, New Hampshire...
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: Haw! :)
	7:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...surely 'kismet' is an Arabic word...
	♥ 7:51pm Gary: It's also Urdu and Persian ...
	7:59pm ndbob: excellent first hour Gary! - catch the rest on the archive
	♥ 8:00pm Gary: Night, Bob!
	♥ 8:00pm hyde: tagging in for ndb!
	♥ 8:00pm Gary: Hyde!
	8:10pm glenn: jekyll!
	♥ 8:12pm Gary: Glenn!
	8:13pm glenn: this fits with the chicken / chick pea / rice thingy i'm making for dinner.
	♥ 8:14pm Gary: Mmm, that reminds me, I haven't had dinner yet.
	♥ 8:21pm Doug Schulkind: I made quesadillas. It fits! It fits!
	♥ 8:22pm Gary: Quesadillas go with everything!
	♥ 8:24pm melinda: Enjoying the show.
	♥ 8:27pm hyde: i already ate dinner, but now i want quesadillas
	♥ 8:27pm Doug Schulkind: I upload some, hyde. Email me for the password.
	♥ 8:28pm Gary: Hi Melinda! That does it, I'm going to run and pull the last of my stew out of the fridge and put it on the stove, quick-like
	♥ 8:31pm hyde: @Doug if you have uploadable quesadillas, don't go givin' 'em away for free. you're sitting on a gold mine!
	♥ 8:34pm Doug Schulkind: Who said they were free?
	♥ 8:36pm Gary: Quesadilla never free-ah
	♥ 8:38pm hyde: once you download the quesadillas they take over your hard drive
	♥ 8:48pm Doug Schulkind: Chipotle's quesadillas have gone viral.
	♥ 8:49pm melinda: For some reason this kind of music sounds especially good in cold weather, to me.
	♥ 8:51pm Gary: [desperately configuring some sort of pun out of "norovirus"] [... and failing]
	8:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...nor various alternatives...
	8:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...in that - case we'll deal w/ ya - best we can...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:56pm Uncle Michael: Good evening.
	8:56pm Dean: Downloading quesadillas over fiber optic makes for healthier...downloads.
	♥ 8:56pm Gary: Uncle Michael! Dean!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:57pm Uncle Michael: That cheese will bind up your cable.
	♥ 9:00pm Doug Schulkind: The quesadillas from Taco Bell cause projectile downloading.
	♥ 9:00pm Rich in Washington: Fantastic show so far. I think everyone in my office is gone now. They were all eyeing me weirdly. But they do that anyway.
	9:00pm Peter Nelson: Fckn hate Radiohead.
	♥ 9:02pm Rich in Washington: I don't hate them. I would have to listen to more of their music to make an informed hatred of them and I don't wanna do that.
	♥ 9:03pm Rich in Washington: but I think they're one of those bands that are a sort of amalgam of other people's ideas who knew how to present it in bland, safe manner for mainstream people.
	9:03pm Sarah N: Radiohead make me want to eat my own head. Hello Gary & fellow popheads.
	♥ 9:03pm Rich in Washington: POP!
	♥ 9:04pm Rich in Washington: Peter, I am still enjoying that whole 'nut' show.
	♥ 9:04pm Gary: Hey Peter and Sarah!
	♥ 9:05pm hyde: i have never liked radiohead at all, but i find that i really like jonny greenwood's soundtracks a lot. not sure what's up with that.
	♥ 9:05pm Rich in Washington: Aw crap! I need to go. They're turning off the lights. See you on the flipper flopper, Gary, fellow Bodegans!
	♥ 9:05pm Gary: Yes, I loved the nut show, too!
	♥ 9:05pm Gary: Have a great night, Rich!
	9:06pm Sarah N: Byeee Rich!
	9:07pm Dean: The fuck is it with Radiohead recently at 'FMU? Yesterday a discussion of the merits of he group took place during one of the live shows.
	♥ 9:08pm Gary: Maybe it's that Prince video, Dean?
	9:10pm Dean: Prince video? (Funny, but on another forum earlier today, a work-related one, I invoked Prince for reasons pertaining to authority control in cataloging and primary keys in relational database structure.)
	9:10pm Peter Nelson: Don't get me started on that prince &^!!@$$(*. I am ashamed to share a surname with him.
	♥ 9:12pm Gary: Haw! Actually, I do like Prince, I have to admit. But, then, I also lived in Minneapolis for 6 years in the 90s
	♥ 9:13pm Gary: Oh, and if you haven't figured it out, the track we're listening to now is the record you're seeing over there to the left. (The man in black is Abdel.)
	♥ 9:13pm Doug Schulkind: I'm pretty sure I've never heard a Radiohead song.
	9:14pm Dean: I bet you have, Doug, and I bet it's "Creep," an early hit, before they were recognized as geniuses.
	♥ 9:19pm Doug Schulkind: Meanwhile, this Hafez performance is electrifying.
	♥ 9:21pm Ike: I didn't get Radiohead at all until I listened to a few of their mid-career or later albums all the way through. Oddly enough, the albums often add up to more than the sum of their parts. (DJ Bethany likes them too.) Still way over-hyped though.
	♥ 9:22pm Gary: Ike!
	♥ 9:23pm coelacanth: olá Gary and Bodegatrons ...better late than never right?
	♥ 9:24pm Gary: We've still got 35 minutes to go on this Halim Hafez track, Coelacanth!
	♥ 9:25pm coelacanth: considering i haven't been able to catch your show at all in weeks, i feel lucky!
	9:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @ the time I thot - hey! - this Radiohead is like a U2 that doesn't suck ...'Optimistic' randomly coming from a car or truck on the street... ...but then - it was like : go FreeForm, & even an alternative to Alternative seems irrelevant... I like Radiohead. Thom Yorke is apparently one of those hyper-aware persons - which makes the name 'Radiohead' appropriate. They Neuroticize themselves into excellence - which is the opposite of what many think Rock'n'Rolla is supposed to be all about - but Rules Schmules... Gary - this is incredible. Like I said about Native American stuff on Rob Weisberrg's show: A different kind of Soul music.
	♥ 9:31pm Gary: I think it is only a matter of time before some enterprising reissue label puts together a Baligh Hamdi package of some kind
	9:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: My thing w/ Prince is: I am gobsmacked by his abilities to do - literally - anything - but then - why I am okay w/ not owning anything by him? Blame MTV?
	♥ 9:33pm Gary: Prince was -- at least for the first part of his career -- super over exposed. And while I loved those early albums, I also don't own any -- I just feel like I can do all those songs in my head. I'm kind of curious about all of the stuff I haven't heard, tho
	♥ 9:38pm hyde: i still own those early albums. i also went to see purple rain about 3 times the year it came out. (a couple were 99 cent wednesday shows at the calvin theater, but still)
	♥ 9:39pm melinda: I don't think it's weird to not own any Prince.
	♥ 9:39pm Gary: Y'all know about the Purple Rain remake filmed in the Sahara, yeah?
	♥ 9:39pm coelacanth: yeah Rev, there are lots of folks who are close-minded to radiohead, like with the beatles, just because they got popular. meanwhile it's not "commercial" music at all. if anything they helped open the world up for many who would've decended further into commercial radio crap. their first 2 albums were basic guitar rock,though a notch beyond their peers, so they got known; but if those 2 albums hadn't happened they would be okay with all those who think they're too cool,or pretend they're too sophisticated for it. (ironic since it's far more sophisticated than lots of "cool" groups that get heavy wfmu airplay)
	♥ 9:40pm Gary: Mr. Sahel Sounds made it: www.theguardian.com...
	♥ 9:43pm hyde: @Gary i'm dying to see that
	♥ 9:44pm Gary: I appreciate what you're saying Coelacanth & RevRab ... but I don't think it's quite so black and white. I love the Beatles (altho, like Prince, I don't own any of the albums anymore -- can do it all in the head), but I have a visceral reaction to Radiohead. I think it may even come down to the guy's voice grating on me in a very deeply physical way. (Deeply Physical Way -- now there's an 80s song title for you)
	♥ 9:47pm Gary: We think of pop music (and alt music is pop music, in the sense I'm thinking of) as being somehow objective (not the right word, but) -- so liking or disliking we tell ourselves is about semiotics and identity, kind of -- but there's a completely visceral component to it
	9:47pm Dean: Thom Yorke's voice, yes. This was the topic of yesterday's discussion, too. I can't bear the whiny bellowing.
	♥ 9:47pm hyde: ok, got to cut out a couple minutes early. thanks Gary!
	♥ 9:47pm coelacanth: yeah his voice isn't wonderful. ...but i wasn't saying that everyone who dislikes them do for the reason i said.
	♥ 9:48pm Gary: Night, Hyde!
	9:48pm Dean: I confuse him with the Coldplay guy, too. That can't be good.
	♥ 9:50pm coelacanth: i can barely stand dinosaur jr. because of his voice. i can't seem to get past it,even though people (wfmu) tells me it's cool to like it!
	9:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I'm a stone Beatlemaniac - they had me @ the Cartoons in my toddlerhood. Just no getting round an aesthetic distaste for a voice. Yorke said he was working w/ Bjork - & he broke emotionally - & she told him that was very selfish - & he acknowledged she was right. In Pop/Rawk - it's as much about distinctive Sounds as Musically Technical attributes. Yorke has a distinctive voice: he sounds like himself - & is expressive - & that's usually half the battle. People often say this about voices in Pop Music...
	♥ 9:52pm Gary: ^True
	9:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (...that they just don't like a voice...)
	9:54pm Dean: Well, yeah, except when he sounds like the Coldplay guy, or vice versa.
	♥ 9:56pm Gary: Only three minutes of this awesomeness left, speaking of voices
	9:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...also: maybe the 1990s are exactly too close & too far away to be 'cool' nostalgia yet?? (It used to take 20 years)...
	♥ 9:57pm coelacanth: i'm pretty sure coldplay modelled themselves after radiohead. ...well,i'm sure of it! (except they're boring and not politically relevant)
	♥ 10:00pm coelacanth: That ruled!
	10:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Uh-mazing Gary.
	♥ 10:03pm coelacanth: Thanks Gary i guess i have to go back and check out those other feature-length tracks! later on y'all.
	10:03pm Sarah N: Thanks Gary. Major grooviness!
	♥ 10:04pm Gary: Thanks, gang, and see you somewhere around these parts soon!

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from December 9, 2015

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