WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from September 25, 2016

Listener comments!
	9:02am fred: Good morning Jeff, Out looks like a good place to aim for right now. Not in the real world though: those clouds are dark and threatening
	9:03am listener james from westwood: Happy Sunday and happy first autumn D:O, all!
	9:04am Jeff Golick: Clear skies here, @fred. Welcome. And happy Sunday/autumn to you, @listener james.
	9:05am Jeff Golick: Let me know if the levels are wonky today, gents? New set up, sorta.
	9:06am listener james from westwood: There's the mic!
	🥁 9:19am doctorjazz: Hi all, nice to hear more Trane -inspired music...
	9:21am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @doctorjazz!
	🥁 9:25am doctorjazz: And, the man himself, Ozzie approves!
	9:26am fred: The sun is making an appearance. But I'll stay in and keep listening: that's the kind of weather trap where a downpour would happen when I'm like 30+ minutes from shelter
	9:27am Jeff Golick: Gotta make the dog happy, @doctorjazz. @fred: appreciate your priorities/sensibility. Trane makes the sun come out, is the only conclusion I can draw.
	🥁 9:29am doctorjazz: Sound is fine on my end, phone to headphones through the app.
	9:29am Jeff Golick: Oh, good; thanks a lot, @doctorjazz.
	🥁 9:30am Brian in UK: Lawd and I thought the British talked about the weather muchly. Coltrane '59 - '62 is such a friendly, come in and sit yourself down and be my friend for life sound.
	9:33am Jeff Golick: @Brian in UK: it's all we have to unify us until November. Let us have it, please. And welcome. Agreed re Coltrane late Atlantic/early Impulse years. Johnny Hartman!
	🥁 9:37am doctorjazz: Now I'm going to nitpick the sound a bit... Just got a new phone, could be on my end, but the Eskelin sounds like it's in mono...
	🥁 9:37am Brian in UK: Jeff I loves this time of year, I am lucky to work where there are some old trees like copper beeches and horse chestnuts and there is the space to see them. There were a few mushrooms appearing in the woods today when I was walking Spencer.
	9:38am fred: Rosas will have a new take of A Love Supreme with younger dancers. My favorite dancer of all time (Cynthia Loemij) got closest to Coltrane in the original version. I hope I can get beyond that and appreciate this performance.
	🥁 9:38am Brian in UK: @doctorjazz it is a bit of a mono sentiment.
	🥁 9:39am doctorjazz: Beautiful here in the Jersey burbs.
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz: hm. I'll have to keep an eye on that. @Brian: I loves me some autumn trees, too (sez the New Englander) @fred: I am woefully ig'nant of dance. It's almost too much for me to bear.
	9:46am Polyus: Heya Jeff. Rainy morning in the Upper Midwest, that last track captured the vibe perfectly.
	9:49am Gary: Hey, I didn't miss it?
	9:49am coelacanth: 'morning Jeff and Outies
	9:50am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Polyus; greetings! @Gary! No way! You are it! @coelacanth: good morning, good MORning!
	9:52am fred: Ilitch! Thanks so much for playing him
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Happy to, @fred. I am new to him - what can you tell me?
	9:56am melinda: Morning!
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Heyo, it's @Melinda!
	9:58am Gary: @Jeff I meant the Julius Eastman album ... and, btw, I just googled that Sryinx album, how did you find it, it looks super freaky!
	10:00am Jeff Golick: @Gary: RVNG reissue: rvng.bandcamp.com... - highly recommended!
	10:04am Gary: Ah, Bandcamp, my home away from home
	10:04am fred: @Jeff: Thierry Müller has used a bunch of names, mainly Ruth and Ilitch. His defunct Dildo project is on the FMA. He's been struggling financially lately, so every play that puts his name out there helps. The Superior Viaduct reissues were helpful too
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: This Plimly track is really nice...
	10:05am Jeff Golick: @fred: thanks so much. I'm sure I came to him by way of the reissues, and there was a list of some sort that really piqued my interest. LISTS: where would we be without them.
	10:06am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz; there's also an Anthony Davis piece from this comp. that you would enjoy, I think. We'll get there...
	10:07am Gary: Block represent!
	10:08am fred: @Jeff: Yeah, he was on one of the Nurse With Wound lists
	10:08am frozen reeds: ⌒°(❛ᴗ❛)°⌒
	10:15am fred: Thierry also played on Daniel Blumin's show a while ago: wfmu.org...
	10:16am Jeff Golick: @frozen reeds: aw yeah. @fred: very cool, @fred. Thanks.
	10:22am Jeff Golick: Some reading, if you're interested, while listening: Guardian: www.theguardian.com... Pitchfork: pitchfork.com... NYer: www.newyorker.com...
	🥁 10:29am Brian in UK: Jeff, the Guardian article mentions Julius Eastman singing Peter Maxwell Davis' Eight Songs for a Mad King. A truely remarkable work. I saw the world premiere on April 22 1969 in London with Roy Hart as the reciter, as the programme notes state. The musicians were in individual bird cages and played as George 111 (the mad king) performed the songs) It was quite startling for this seventeen year old. What I am trying to say is that Julius Eastman's scope must have been wide ranging.
	10:31am Jeff Golick: Wow, @Brian. Just, wow. And yeah, I'm reminded of the line in a recent Beyonce song: "I'm just too much for you." I think Eastman was perhaps too much for us.
	10:32am fred: This is really great. How many other composers did we lose because we were too prejudiced to hear them?
	🥁 10:40am Brian in UK: @fred later that year I saw Eight Songs again along with a first of Maxwell Davis' Vesalii Icones based on Vesalius positions of Christ on the cross. The dancer was William Lowther whom you might know. It was my first introduction to dance and might have spoiled me for a while it was so strong. Just remembered I was sixteen not seventeen!
	10:42am Dean: What a privilege to have attended premieres of Maxwell Davies' works.
	10:44am fred: I wish I had heard this earlier, when I could have asked Boulez about him
	10:44am doctorjazz: gotta go for now, catch up on the archives, thanks for the fine music, Jeff.
	🥁 10:46am Brian in UK: @Dean I was too young and daft to fully realise it then. Emotionally it was powerful though. Saw the Stones in the Park the same year. They were a poor second.
	10:48am fred: @Brian: I don't know William Lowther. My initial interest in dance came from a strong interest in girls who were dance fans back in high school. I did learn a lot since then, but on the go, without any formal structure
	🥁 10:51am Brian in UK: Typo it is Louther not Lowther.
	10:54am Jeff Golick: Bye-ya, @doctorjazz!
	10:54am Jeff Golick: Really enjoying the high-level cultural chatter on here.
	10:55am Jeff Golick: At sixteen I saw the Thompson Twins and OMD.
	🥁 10:56am Brian in UK: This piece seems to be looking upwards constantly.
	10:56am Dean: Had to do a double-take in the Pitchfork piece. It mentions that "[e]ach member [in the SEM Ensemble] had a digital clock..." and I'm thinking, "In 1974?!" Of course, it means a clock with a digital display, a display consisting of digits.
	10:56am Gary: I'd love to read about the clash between Eastman and Cage ... what happened?
	11:01am fred: @Jeff: At 16 I saw a show with U2, UB40 and The Pogues, you were so ahead of me
	11:01am Jeff Golick: @Gary, from the Guardian: "Yet, as an out gay black man working in a predominantly straight white environment, Eastman grew progressively more uncomfortable. In a pivotal SEM performance of John Cage’s Song Books in June 1975, with Cage present, Eastman staged a lecture on “a new system of love” in which he undressed a male volunteer (possibly his boyfriend), while making sexual overtures in acrobatic baritone. Cage was furious. “Julius tried to ‘out’ Cage,” Di Pietro says. “He said, I hate that Cage never speaks about sex. But he regretted it because Cage was so angry. Julius was deeply divided.” “Cage thought it was a parody of him,” says SEM co-founder Petr Kotik. “It was a huge scandal. "
	11:02am Dean: Another double-take: the 2015 collection, Gay Guerilla: Julius Eastman and His Music, is from the extensive series, Eastman Studies in Music. Wait. There's a series devoted to this relatively unknown musician? Uhm, duh. Eastman School of Music, Rochester, NY.
	11:02am Jeff Golick: Belated HELLO, @Dean. I had a similar reaction to the mention of the digital clocks.
	11:05am Dean: Hello, and good to have you and D:O back!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Dean. Is the Eastman School really the same Eastman?
	11:06am fred: @Dean: these days, you'd better make anything extensive and yuge. Coming days might be worse
	11:08am glenn: it's probably the eastman as in eastman kodak, given that it's in rochester.
	11:10am fred: Should I legally change my name to Harvard if I ever write music?
	11:11am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @glenn. Of course that's it. Duh's on me!
	11:13am Dean: I assume the coincidence of names is just that. The Eastman School is almost 100 years old. Founder George Eastman. Yes, that Eastman, the one that spawned Linda. @fred: Well, series of academic books grow extensive because academics need to publish and reputable publishers attract lots of academics. Funny you mention Harvard. I was on the board of trustees of my undergraduate college when the president at the time proposed changing the name from ... College to ... University, despite the fact that the college had virtually none of the trappings of a real university. His rationale was that other colleges were doing the same, that it served the institution's reputation. I commented, "Why don't you just change the name to Harvard, then?" He was not amused, but the name change never occurred.
	🥁 11:14am Brian in UK: @Jeff think I am doing things in reverse to you. Going to see You, Me at Six. Yes I know, never heard of them. A friend of mine taught the drummer many years ago and this might be my first comp tickets. Might need earplugs.
	11:18am fred: @Dean: I know all too well about the quirks of academia. I'm just a technician there, meaning I have the proverbial janitor's view of the schoolyard politics at play in "higher learning"
	11:18am Jeff Golick: @Brian: I prefer to refer to them as You Meat Six.
	11:25am Dean: @fred: I am similarly situated, and I prefer it this way. As for the "janitor's view," of late my colleagues and I have been monitoring a particular restroom, I kid you not, in which somebody repeatedly stuffs mountains of t.p. in one of the toilets.
	11:27am Gary: That was lovely
	11:28am coelacanth: for me that didn't seem like much when it started, but, Wow...
	11:30am fred: @Dean: I'd hate to snitch, but do you have a topology department?
	11:31am Jeff Golick: Glad you hung around for it, @Gary & @coelacanth! Really does build. Forgot to mention that the sleigh bells were automated.
	11:33am Dean: Just searched NYT for "julius eastman." There are 140 articles published between 1961 and the present. Some are ads, e.g., a Feb. '69 program at Carnegie Recital Hall featuring works by Eastman, Webern, Rands, et al. Lukas Foss prepared it. Admission? $3.00.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: "Those were different times..."
	11:37am coelacanth: i read that about the sleigh bells. pretty cool. ...and i'm all about the long evolutions, so i'd never not stick around to see what happens... especially if you're playing it.
	11:39am Dean: @fred: Are you suggesting the vandalism is in fact submission of a dissertation?
	11:39am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that vote of confidence, @coel. It helps knowing that y'all have huge, courageous ears. The best ears.
	🥁 11:40am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell of a duet.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! Yeah. They recorded four sides' worth at this session, all wonderful.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: @ljfw, if you're there: how would you punctuate "four sides' worth"?
	11:44am fred: @Dean: Are you suggesting there is a difference?
	11:45am Gary: Automated sleigh bells! Okay, I gotta head off for some chow -- thanks for the terrific show, Jeff
	11:46am Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here now, @Gary! Chow/ciao down.
	🥁 11:50am Brian in UK: Back to work tomorrow after a wonderful break (with unplanned backache as the hors d'oeuvres) Ah Mondays. Great Julius Eastman snadwich show, Jeff. (kept the typo in) PS how is the Jeff J doing?
	11:52am listener james from westwood: Can we pass a hat to get another three glorious hours? This is keeping my blood pressure down amid a multiply stressed Sunday!
	11:53am Jeff Golick: @Brian: Jeff J is doing well, with a new novella just out from Kiddiepunk, NOVI SAD. Also, we have a session tomorrow night to record a new D:O show, devoted to British folk n jazz. He also hosted Battle Trance down in Charlotte, North Carolina, which by all accounts was a transforming experience.
	11:54am fred: @James: I'd be all for it, but with that new setup it might be trading your pressure for his
	11:55am Jeff Golick: Mmm-hmmm. Still not satisfied with how it's sounding, but not gonna mess to much with it. Better audible than not.
	11:57am fred: @Jeff: Good enough to blow my mind with that Julius Eastman set. You got it right enough
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: In lieu of not much. Did there used to be a band called the Firehouse Five plus Two? Possibly made up of Walt Disney employees.
	11:59am Jeff Golick: Awesome; so glad to hear it, @fred. Gonna have to dig deeper to answer that one, @Brian.
	11:59am Dean: Something like that. I think they actually performed at Disneyland.
	🥁 12:02pm Brian in UK: Jeff, step away from the shovel. Dean there is so much STUFF in this cranium, wish I had worked at skool. Have a great week everyone.
	12:02pm listener james from westwood: Well I will be happy with the three fine hours of today's show! Always glad to have you on!
	12:05pm coelacanth: Thanks Jeff for another Stellar program! tchau comrades
	12:06pm Jeff Golick: Aw yeah thanks for the great company, as per usual. See you next time, if not sooner.

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September 25, 2016: Julius Eastman's "Femenine" & other news

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother the Wind, Vol. I	Evidence	1970
Cossi Anatz	Al Coltrane "Al Coltrane" by "Cossi Anatz"	Jazz Afro-Occitan	Disques Vendémiaire	1975
Andrew Cyrille Quartet	Coltrane Time	The Declaration of Musical Independence	ECM	2016
John Coltrane	Blues to Elvin "Blues to Elvin" by "John Coltrane"	Coltrane Plays the Blues	Atlantic	1960
Ellery Eskelin Trio	I Don't Stand a Ghost of a Chance with You	Trio Willisau: Live	hatOLOGY	2016
Kirk Knuffke	Elephant Boat "Elephant Boat" by "Kirk Knuffke"	Little Cross	SteepleChase	2016
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"
Ilitch	Sequence 1 "Sequence 1" by "Ilitch"	Periodik Mindtrouble	Oxygène	1978
Syrinx	Hollywood Dream Trip "Hollywood Dream Trip" by "Syrinx"	Syrinx	True North	1970	RE: RVNG (Tumblers from the Vault, 2016)
Ricardo Dias Gomes	Reviver e Renovar	-11	[self-released]	2015
Paul Plimley	Ripple by Drops Magnified	Past * Piano * Present: Live at Western Front 1985-2015	Western Front	1985/2016
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Granny on the Gramophone
Julius Eastman / SEM Ensemble	Femenine	Femenine	frozen reeds	1974/2016
Music behind DJ: Mouse on Mars	Fantastic Analysis "Fantastic Analysis" by "Mouse on Mars"
Dave Holland/Sam Rivers	Waterfall	Dave Holland/Sam Rivers	IAI	1976
John White	Autumn Countdown Machine	Machine Music	Obscure	1978
Slavic Soul Party!	Bluebird of Dehli (sic)	Plays Duke Ellington's Far East Suite	Ropeadope	2016
Mary Halvorson Octet	Fog Bank "Fog Bank" by "Mary Halvorson Octet"	Away with You	Firehouse 12	2016
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Firehouse 12	2016

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Listener comments!
	9:02am fred: Good morning Jeff, Out looks like a good place to aim for right now. Not in the real world though: those clouds are dark and threatening
	9:03am listener james from westwood: Happy Sunday and happy first autumn D:O, all!
	9:04am Jeff Golick: Clear skies here, @fred. Welcome. And happy Sunday/autumn to you, @listener james.
	9:05am Jeff Golick: Let me know if the levels are wonky today, gents? New set up, sorta.
	9:06am listener james from westwood: There's the mic!
	🥁 9:19am doctorjazz: Hi all, nice to hear more Trane -inspired music...
	9:21am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @doctorjazz!
	🥁 9:25am doctorjazz: And, the man himself, Ozzie approves!
	9:26am fred: The sun is making an appearance. But I'll stay in and keep listening: that's the kind of weather trap where a downpour would happen when I'm like 30+ minutes from shelter
	9:27am Jeff Golick: Gotta make the dog happy, @doctorjazz. @fred: appreciate your priorities/sensibility. Trane makes the sun come out, is the only conclusion I can draw.
	🥁 9:29am doctorjazz: Sound is fine on my end, phone to headphones through the app.
	9:29am Jeff Golick: Oh, good; thanks a lot, @doctorjazz.
	🥁 9:30am Brian in UK: Lawd and I thought the British talked about the weather muchly. Coltrane '59 - '62 is such a friendly, come in and sit yourself down and be my friend for life sound.
	9:33am Jeff Golick: @Brian in UK: it's all we have to unify us until November. Let us have it, please. And welcome. Agreed re Coltrane late Atlantic/early Impulse years. Johnny Hartman!
	🥁 9:37am doctorjazz: Now I'm going to nitpick the sound a bit... Just got a new phone, could be on my end, but the Eskelin sounds like it's in mono...
	🥁 9:37am Brian in UK: Jeff I loves this time of year, I am lucky to work where there are some old trees like copper beeches and horse chestnuts and there is the space to see them. There were a few mushrooms appearing in the woods today when I was walking Spencer.
	9:38am fred: Rosas will have a new take of A Love Supreme with younger dancers. My favorite dancer of all time (Cynthia Loemij) got closest to Coltrane in the original version. I hope I can get beyond that and appreciate this performance.
	🥁 9:38am Brian in UK: @doctorjazz it is a bit of a mono sentiment.
	🥁 9:39am doctorjazz: Beautiful here in the Jersey burbs.
	9:40am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz: hm. I'll have to keep an eye on that. @Brian: I loves me some autumn trees, too (sez the New Englander) @fred: I am woefully ig'nant of dance. It's almost too much for me to bear.
	9:46am Polyus: Heya Jeff. Rainy morning in the Upper Midwest, that last track captured the vibe perfectly.
	9:49am Gary: Hey, I didn't miss it?
	9:49am coelacanth: 'morning Jeff and Outies
	9:50am Jeff Golick: Hey, @Polyus; greetings! @Gary! No way! You are it! @coelacanth: good morning, good MORning!
	9:52am fred: Ilitch! Thanks so much for playing him
	9:55am Jeff Golick: Happy to, @fred. I am new to him - what can you tell me?
	9:56am melinda: Morning!
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Heyo, it's @Melinda!
	9:58am Gary: @Jeff I meant the Julius Eastman album ... and, btw, I just googled that Sryinx album, how did you find it, it looks super freaky!
	10:00am Jeff Golick: @Gary: RVNG reissue: rvng.bandcamp.com... - highly recommended!
	10:04am Gary: Ah, Bandcamp, my home away from home
	10:04am fred: @Jeff: Thierry Müller has used a bunch of names, mainly Ruth and Ilitch. His defunct Dildo project is on the FMA. He's been struggling financially lately, so every play that puts his name out there helps. The Superior Viaduct reissues were helpful too
	🥁 10:04am doctorjazz: This Plimly track is really nice...
	10:05am Jeff Golick: @fred: thanks so much. I'm sure I came to him by way of the reissues, and there was a list of some sort that really piqued my interest. LISTS: where would we be without them.
	10:06am Jeff Golick: @doctorjazz; there's also an Anthony Davis piece from this comp. that you would enjoy, I think. We'll get there...
	10:07am Gary: Block represent!
	10:08am fred: @Jeff: Yeah, he was on one of the Nurse With Wound lists
	10:08am frozen reeds: ⌒°(❛ᴗ❛)°⌒
	10:15am fred: Thierry also played on Daniel Blumin's show a while ago: wfmu.org...
	10:16am Jeff Golick: @frozen reeds: aw yeah. @fred: very cool, @fred. Thanks.
	10:22am Jeff Golick: Some reading, if you're interested, while listening: Guardian: www.theguardian.com... Pitchfork: pitchfork.com... NYer: www.newyorker.com...
	🥁 10:29am Brian in UK: Jeff, the Guardian article mentions Julius Eastman singing Peter Maxwell Davis' Eight Songs for a Mad King. A truely remarkable work. I saw the world premiere on April 22 1969 in London with Roy Hart as the reciter, as the programme notes state. The musicians were in individual bird cages and played as George 111 (the mad king) performed the songs) It was quite startling for this seventeen year old. What I am trying to say is that Julius Eastman's scope must have been wide ranging.
	10:31am Jeff Golick: Wow, @Brian. Just, wow. And yeah, I'm reminded of the line in a recent Beyonce song: "I'm just too much for you." I think Eastman was perhaps too much for us.
	10:32am fred: This is really great. How many other composers did we lose because we were too prejudiced to hear them?
	🥁 10:40am Brian in UK: @fred later that year I saw Eight Songs again along with a first of Maxwell Davis' Vesalii Icones based on Vesalius positions of Christ on the cross. The dancer was William Lowther whom you might know. It was my first introduction to dance and might have spoiled me for a while it was so strong. Just remembered I was sixteen not seventeen!
	10:42am Dean: What a privilege to have attended premieres of Maxwell Davies' works.
	10:44am fred: I wish I had heard this earlier, when I could have asked Boulez about him
	10:44am doctorjazz: gotta go for now, catch up on the archives, thanks for the fine music, Jeff.
	🥁 10:46am Brian in UK: @Dean I was too young and daft to fully realise it then. Emotionally it was powerful though. Saw the Stones in the Park the same year. They were a poor second.
	10:48am fred: @Brian: I don't know William Lowther. My initial interest in dance came from a strong interest in girls who were dance fans back in high school. I did learn a lot since then, but on the go, without any formal structure
	🥁 10:51am Brian in UK: Typo it is Louther not Lowther.
	10:54am Jeff Golick: Bye-ya, @doctorjazz!
	10:54am Jeff Golick: Really enjoying the high-level cultural chatter on here.
	10:55am Jeff Golick: At sixteen I saw the Thompson Twins and OMD.
	🥁 10:56am Brian in UK: This piece seems to be looking upwards constantly.
	10:56am Dean: Had to do a double-take in the Pitchfork piece. It mentions that "[e]ach member [in the SEM Ensemble] had a digital clock..." and I'm thinking, "In 1974?!" Of course, it means a clock with a digital display, a display consisting of digits.
	10:56am Gary: I'd love to read about the clash between Eastman and Cage ... what happened?
	11:01am fred: @Jeff: At 16 I saw a show with U2, UB40 and The Pogues, you were so ahead of me
	11:01am Jeff Golick: @Gary, from the Guardian: "Yet, as an out gay black man working in a predominantly straight white environment, Eastman grew progressively more uncomfortable. In a pivotal SEM performance of John Cage’s Song Books in June 1975, with Cage present, Eastman staged a lecture on “a new system of love” in which he undressed a male volunteer (possibly his boyfriend), while making sexual overtures in acrobatic baritone. Cage was furious. “Julius tried to ‘out’ Cage,” Di Pietro says. “He said, I hate that Cage never speaks about sex. But he regretted it because Cage was so angry. Julius was deeply divided.” “Cage thought it was a parody of him,” says SEM co-founder Petr Kotik. “It was a huge scandal. "
	11:02am Dean: Another double-take: the 2015 collection, Gay Guerilla: Julius Eastman and His Music, is from the extensive series, Eastman Studies in Music. Wait. There's a series devoted to this relatively unknown musician? Uhm, duh. Eastman School of Music, Rochester, NY.
	11:02am Jeff Golick: Belated HELLO, @Dean. I had a similar reaction to the mention of the digital clocks.
	11:05am Dean: Hello, and good to have you and D:O back!
	11:06am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @Dean. Is the Eastman School really the same Eastman?
	11:06am fred: @Dean: these days, you'd better make anything extensive and yuge. Coming days might be worse
	11:08am glenn: it's probably the eastman as in eastman kodak, given that it's in rochester.
	11:10am fred: Should I legally change my name to Harvard if I ever write music?
	11:11am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @glenn. Of course that's it. Duh's on me!
	11:13am Dean: I assume the coincidence of names is just that. The Eastman School is almost 100 years old. Founder George Eastman. Yes, that Eastman, the one that spawned Linda. @fred: Well, series of academic books grow extensive because academics need to publish and reputable publishers attract lots of academics. Funny you mention Harvard. I was on the board of trustees of my undergraduate college when the president at the time proposed changing the name from ... College to ... University, despite the fact that the college had virtually none of the trappings of a real university. His rationale was that other colleges were doing the same, that it served the institution's reputation. I commented, "Why don't you just change the name to Harvard, then?" He was not amused, but the name change never occurred.
	🥁 11:14am Brian in UK: @Jeff think I am doing things in reverse to you. Going to see You, Me at Six. Yes I know, never heard of them. A friend of mine taught the drummer many years ago and this might be my first comp tickets. Might need earplugs.
	11:18am fred: @Dean: I know all too well about the quirks of academia. I'm just a technician there, meaning I have the proverbial janitor's view of the schoolyard politics at play in "higher learning"
	11:18am Jeff Golick: @Brian: I prefer to refer to them as You Meat Six.
	11:25am Dean: @fred: I am similarly situated, and I prefer it this way. As for the "janitor's view," of late my colleagues and I have been monitoring a particular restroom, I kid you not, in which somebody repeatedly stuffs mountains of t.p. in one of the toilets.
	11:27am Gary: That was lovely
	11:28am coelacanth: for me that didn't seem like much when it started, but, Wow...
	11:30am fred: @Dean: I'd hate to snitch, but do you have a topology department?
	11:31am Jeff Golick: Glad you hung around for it, @Gary & @coelacanth! Really does build. Forgot to mention that the sleigh bells were automated.
	11:33am Dean: Just searched NYT for "julius eastman." There are 140 articles published between 1961 and the present. Some are ads, e.g., a Feb. '69 program at Carnegie Recital Hall featuring works by Eastman, Webern, Rands, et al. Lukas Foss prepared it. Admission? $3.00.
	11:34am Jeff Golick: "Those were different times..."
	11:37am coelacanth: i read that about the sleigh bells. pretty cool. ...and i'm all about the long evolutions, so i'd never not stick around to see what happens... especially if you're playing it.
	11:39am Dean: @fred: Are you suggesting the vandalism is in fact submission of a dissertation?
	11:39am Jeff Golick: Thanks for that vote of confidence, @coel. It helps knowing that y'all have huge, courageous ears. The best ears.
	🥁 11:40am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Hell of a duet.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: Hey there, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63! Yeah. They recorded four sides' worth at this session, all wonderful.
	11:42am Jeff Golick: @ljfw, if you're there: how would you punctuate "four sides' worth"?
	11:44am fred: @Dean: Are you suggesting there is a difference?
	11:45am Gary: Automated sleigh bells! Okay, I gotta head off for some chow -- thanks for the terrific show, Jeff
	11:46am Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here now, @Gary! Chow/ciao down.
	🥁 11:50am Brian in UK: Back to work tomorrow after a wonderful break (with unplanned backache as the hors d'oeuvres) Ah Mondays. Great Julius Eastman snadwich show, Jeff. (kept the typo in) PS how is the Jeff J doing?
	11:52am listener james from westwood: Can we pass a hat to get another three glorious hours? This is keeping my blood pressure down amid a multiply stressed Sunday!
	11:53am Jeff Golick: @Brian: Jeff J is doing well, with a new novella just out from Kiddiepunk, NOVI SAD. Also, we have a session tomorrow night to record a new D:O show, devoted to British folk n jazz. He also hosted Battle Trance down in Charlotte, North Carolina, which by all accounts was a transforming experience.
	11:54am fred: @James: I'd be all for it, but with that new setup it might be trading your pressure for his
	11:55am Jeff Golick: Mmm-hmmm. Still not satisfied with how it's sounding, but not gonna mess to much with it. Better audible than not.
	11:57am fred: @Jeff: Good enough to blow my mind with that Julius Eastman set. You got it right enough
	🥁 11:58am Brian in UK: In lieu of not much. Did there used to be a band called the Firehouse Five plus Two? Possibly made up of Walt Disney employees.
	11:59am Jeff Golick: Awesome; so glad to hear it, @fred. Gonna have to dig deeper to answer that one, @Brian.
	11:59am Dean: Something like that. I think they actually performed at Disneyland.
	🥁 12:02pm Brian in UK: Jeff, step away from the shovel. Dean there is so much STUFF in this cranium, wish I had worked at skool. Have a great week everyone.
	12:02pm listener james from westwood: Well I will be happy with the three fine hours of today's show! Always glad to have you on!
	12:05pm coelacanth: Thanks Jeff for another Stellar program! tchau comrades
	12:06pm Jeff Golick: Aw yeah thanks for the great company, as per usual. See you next time, if not sooner.

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