WFMU: The Long Way Home with Kris Holmes: Playlist from May 28, 2019

Listener comments!
	10:00pm Matt from New Orleans: Hey Kris. Gave up on my work for the night. Looking for to the show.
	10:00pm Matt from New Orleans: Looking forward to the show
	10:00pm chresti: Hi mad lads!
	10:01pm Kris Holmes: Hi all, thanks for tuning in. RIP to the great John Gary Williams, last of the Mad Lads.
	10:03pm Matt from New Orleans: Did the Mad Lads actually record an album or were they just packages of singles?
	10:04pm coelacanth∅: hey Kris and all
	10:04pm Funky16Corners: Hey Kris! That .Mad Lads was cool. New to me.
	10:05pm Kris Holmes: They had three albums in their prime, each increasingly less a collection of singles, there is also a John Gary Williams solo LP
	10:05pm Franco Twinkie: The Kris Holms Local - picking up screwballs, drop outs and grifters all over town!
	10:07pm still b/p: Good to get that good-for-you sugar from the Lads. When I was having a few tacos at lunch, I was tempted by lime soda and some locally made mandarin orange soda, but, DAMN, MAN, the sugar doses in 'em persuaded me to forgo either.
	10:08pm Matt from New Orleans: The only mad lads I own is in that huge complete stax volt singles box set
	10:11pm Matt from New Orleans: Maybe 9 cds is large not huge compared to the Grateful Dead box I bought that has 80 cds
	10:12pm Kris Holmes: 80 CDs? JFC!!!!
	10:12pm Dean: 9 Mad Lads CDs probably contains the equivalent number of songs as on an 80 CD Dead set.
	10:13pm still b/p: Jerry Fried Chicken?
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: jersey fly chic
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: (...or chick)
	10:15pm Granny Spicy Tuna: great set, hail the ancestor, John Gary Williams!
	10:15pm Matt from New Orleans: It was limited to 6500 and it was 30 complete previously unreleased live shows in honor of fare thee well. It was a waste of money actually but I’ve enjoyed delving into it. I had heard every show already but still was nice to revisit in soundboard vs god knows how many generation cassette tapes
	10:24pm Little Danny: Hey Kris, hey good people
	10:24pm Little Danny: Loveliness
	10:25pm Kris Holmes: Hey Dan!
	10:25pm Matt from New Orleans: It’s good WFMU archives the shows on their own website. Had this been uploaded to mixcloud, no one in the US would be able to listen.
	10:26pm Little Danny: "I Want a Girl" sure has an unintentionally odd lyric
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: hey Danny!
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: -Awesome that you got the tribute together so fast Kris
	10:34pm Little Danny: Do I recall that you have the Mad Lads' LP on Stax, Kris?
	10:35pm Kris Holmes: yes, I bought it at ARC a couple years back
	10:35pm Little Danny: Coela my dude, hello
	10:38pm Little Danny: And now I see that they had a coupla other LPs on Volt (in '69 and in '73). Had no idea
	10:38pm chresti: Put the penny on the arm
	10:40pm Kris Holmes: ugh, don't know where that gnarly scratch on that came from :-(
	10:41pm Little Danny: It's like you got that skipping 45 straight outta my collection, a home for record noise and defects
	10:42pm Kris Holmes: gonna have to try fix it later
	10:44pm Carmichael: Heya Kris. One more comp to put on my list ...
	10:44pm doctorjazz: Great sounding stuff...just a quick check in, gonna try to get close to my 8 hours of shut eye, but will have to catch up on the archive... Night (hi and bye)
	10:45pm doctorjazz: (Was tempted by that 80 CD Dead set...I'm more likely to pass on it, then spend twice as much getting the discs one by one]
	10:46pm chresti: ..I know I know I know I know I know...
	10:48pm Little Danny: I blame Otis
	10:50pm Dean: The Leonard Bernstein box issued by DG for last year's centennial consists of 121 CDs + 36 DVDs.
	10:50pm chresti: Great stuff, I especially like the doo-wappy songs
	10:52pm chresti: Night doc. I gotta hit the hay soon, too. Music stays on...
	10:53pm chresti: Hi/goodnight everbuddies!
	10:54pm chresti: This 1000 dances is sensational!
	10:55pm Matt from New Orleans: The Leonard Bernstein set is several hundred dollars cheaper for more material. Probably because a great deal of the music is public domain.
	10:56pm Little Danny: @Dean. Good lord. I mean, I understand the completist urge, but that's too much/many. Quality control, c'mon. Or is DG's understanding that no one is actually listening to entire discs start to finish?
	10:59pm Carmichael: I have the completionist urge for a few artists, but I don’t want everything they’ve muttered into an open mic.
	11:05pm Dean: I suspect some of the consumers of the CDs+DVDs already owned all or most of the LPs reissued as CDs. There are other issues out there of the same order of magnitude -- the Charles Munch 86 CD box, e.g. -- but Lenny, like the Dead, is something of a national treasure. That box, by the way, was only the complete DG label releases. Bernstein's discography includes as well recordings on Columbia, Angel, etc. The CBS box set from late 2017 (another centenary tribute) is 100 CDs. But Sony had already issued a Bernstein Edition during the '80s and '90s! Anyway, these discs are not designed to be heard as "albums" per se, nor were the original LPs, necessarily. When they're programmed well, indeed, one wants to hear everything, but I suspect classical fans are generally more picky about what to play, in what order, etc. That is, until the present century, when the whole concept of "album" has been challenged.
	11:06pm Little Danny: Much the same, Carmichael. Not to mention the artists that I am obsessed with (in a completist sort of way) have relatively small catalogs
	11:09pm Matt from New Orleans: How many 45s are you bringing with you to your gig on Sunday? It would seem like you’d need close to a thousand without repeats.
	11:10pm Matt from New Orleans: Tired math. Added an extra zero.
	11:11pm Kris Holmes: 125 would do it, the rule of thumb is 25 songs per hour, i'll probably pack 150ish
	11:14pm Matt from New Orleans: That’s still a lot of records to think about if trying to create a flow over 5 hours.
	11:14pm Dean: Well, see! Just play the DG Bernstein box set!
	11:15pm Little Danny: Thanks Dean! I knew that'd elicit an interesting response from you. And I think you confirmed my suspicions about the expected listening experience. I guess I'm skeptical of these lavish sets that aim for comprehensiveness over "listenability." Again, though, I get the impulse.
	11:19pm Dean: Right. Some Bernstein [or fill-in-the-blank-with-artist's-name] fans are also interested in when the records are not listenable. And on occasion that interest exhibits a healthy concern for the evolution of the artistic life of the subject.
	11:19pm Carmichael: Going through my 45s, I just found an original Excello release of Slim Harpo’s Don’t Start Crying Now. Where did I find/steal that?
	11:29pm Matt from New Orleans: The Dead box set for instance according to David Lemieux their archivist is supposed to tell the story of the dead through their evolution as a band. Clearly as the years progressed, there were far less successful shows that were worth including. The 80s/90s still had some great shows but the consistency was gone. Kids don’t do heroin.
	11:35pm Dean: Come to think of it, the Dead make for a nice comparison with Bernstein. Both released a ton of recorded music, and both had careers as live artists that were arguably more important than their studio careers.
	11:36pm Dean: I suppose the same might be said for "Weird Al" Yankovic.
	11:40pm Matt from New Orleans: Kris I’m laying down. I’ll listen to the end. Thanks for an enlightening show.
	11:41pm Kris Holmes: Thank you Matt
	11:42pm Dean: I grew up in a city, Whittier, CA, one of whose patriarchs was a fellow named Gene Chandler. His obituaries make no mention of his recording career.
	11:43pm Kris Holmes: Ha, THE Gene Chandler is still alive & singing thankfully
	11:43pm Martinibomb: Listening from portland thanks for the music!
	11:47pm Kris Holmes: You're welcome
	11:48pm Little Danny: Thanks for the top tunes, Kris
	11:49pm Kris Holmes: Cheers Dan
	11:56pm Franco Twinkie: Oh yeah, some heavyosity to push us off to bed. See ya, Kris.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Kris!
	11:58pm Dean: Great show, thank you!

The Long Way Home with Kris Holmes: Playlist from May 28, 2019

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Twenty years of dusty fingers, frayed cuticles, & upper respiratory infections — from record digging and DJing around the globe — coalesces into a 2-hour journey through Rhythm & Blues, Soul, Funk, Jazz, Blues, Latin, Rock & Roll, and all points in between. Your speakers will be head-nodding, toe-tapping & even two-stepping to this vintage 45rpm party in no time. Hear favorite songs you didn't know were your favorites, aural treats & record-world problems from the vinyl side of life.

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May 28, 2019: John Gary Williams & The Mad Lads Tribute

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Format	Approx. start time
The Mad Lads	Tear Maker "Tear Maker" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Sugar Sugar "Sugar Sugar" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:04:03 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Don't Have To Shop Around		Volt	7"	0:06:54 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Come Closer To Me "Come Closer To Me" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:09:17 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	What Will Love Tend To Make You Do		Volt	7"	0:11:56 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Patch My Heart "Patch My Heart" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:19:34 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	I Want A Girl "I Want A Girl" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:22:01 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	You Mean So Much To Me		Volt	7"	0:24:52 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	I Don't Want To Lose Your Love		Volt	7"	0:27:38 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Mr Fix It "Mr Fix It" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:30:37 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	These Simple Reasons		Volt	7"	0:34:27 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	My Inspiration "My Inspiration" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:37:12 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	No Time Is Better Than Right Now		Volt	7"	0:39:50 (Pop-up)
John Gary Williams	The Whole Damn World Is Going Crazy		Stax	7"	0:42:02 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Whatever Hurts You "Whatever Hurts You" by "The Mad Lads"		Volt	7"	0:45:00 (Pop-up)
John Gary Williams	Ask The Lonely		Stax	7"	0:50:32 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Land Of 1000 Dances "Land Of 1000 Dances" by "The Mad Lads"	In Action	Volt	LP	0:53:56 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Nothing Can Break Through	In Action	Volt	LP	0:57:22 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	She's The One "She's The One" by "The Mad Lads"	In Action	Volt	LP	0:59:40 (Pop-up)
The Mad Lads	Get Out Of My Life Woman	In Action	Volt	LP	1:01:48 (Pop-up)
Major Lance	Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um		Okeh	7"	1:08:03 (Pop-up)
Sisters Love	Ring Once "Ring Once" by "Sisters Love"		A&M	7"	1:10:22 (Pop-up)
Mel & Tim	It Hurts To Want It So Bad		Stax	7"	1:13:18 (Pop-up)
Garland Green	Hey Cloud "Hey Cloud" by "Garland Green"		Cotillion	7"	1:15:47 (Pop-up)
Tyrone Davis	Without You In My Life		Dakar	7"	1:18:32 (Pop-up)
The Impressions	Check Out Your Mind		Curtom	7"	1:23:55 (Pop-up)
Mandrill	Hang Loose "Hang Loose" by "Mandrill"		Polydor	7"	1:27:20 (Pop-up)
The Main Ingredient	Movin' On "Movin' On" by "The Main Ingredient"		RCA Victor	7"	1:30:49 (Pop-up)
Doris Duke	How Was I To Know You Cared		Canyon	7"	1:33:49 (Pop-up)
Gene Chandler	Rainbow '65 (Part 1)		Constellation	7"	1:36:23 (Pop-up)
The Fun and Games	The Grooviest Girl In The World		Uni	7"	1:41:38 (Pop-up)
Spirit	I Got A Line On You "I Got A Line On You" by "Spirit"		Ode	7"	1:44:09 (Pop-up)
Skin Alley	Bad Words And Evil People		Stax	7"	1:46:46 (Pop-up)
The Amen Corner	Nena "Nena" by "The Amen Corner"		Deram	7"	1:50:33 (Pop-up)
The Easybeats	Can't Find Love "Can't Find Love" by "The Easybeats"		Rare Earth	7"	1:54:06 (Pop-up)
The Honey Drippers	Impeach The President		Alaga	7"	1:59:28 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:00pm Matt from New Orleans: Hey Kris. Gave up on my work for the night. Looking for to the show.
	10:00pm Matt from New Orleans: Looking forward to the show
	10:00pm chresti: Hi mad lads!
	10:01pm Kris Holmes: Hi all, thanks for tuning in. RIP to the great John Gary Williams, last of the Mad Lads.
	10:03pm Matt from New Orleans: Did the Mad Lads actually record an album or were they just packages of singles?
	10:04pm coelacanth∅: hey Kris and all
	10:04pm Funky16Corners: Hey Kris! That .Mad Lads was cool. New to me.
	10:05pm Kris Holmes: They had three albums in their prime, each increasingly less a collection of singles, there is also a John Gary Williams solo LP
	10:05pm Franco Twinkie: The Kris Holms Local - picking up screwballs, drop outs and grifters all over town!
	10:07pm still b/p: Good to get that good-for-you sugar from the Lads. When I was having a few tacos at lunch, I was tempted by lime soda and some locally made mandarin orange soda, but, DAMN, MAN, the sugar doses in 'em persuaded me to forgo either.
	10:08pm Matt from New Orleans: The only mad lads I own is in that huge complete stax volt singles box set
	10:11pm Matt from New Orleans: Maybe 9 cds is large not huge compared to the Grateful Dead box I bought that has 80 cds
	10:12pm Kris Holmes: 80 CDs? JFC!!!!
	10:12pm Dean: 9 Mad Lads CDs probably contains the equivalent number of songs as on an 80 CD Dead set.
	10:13pm still b/p: Jerry Fried Chicken?
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: jersey fly chic
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: (...or chick)
	10:15pm Granny Spicy Tuna: great set, hail the ancestor, John Gary Williams!
	10:15pm Matt from New Orleans: It was limited to 6500 and it was 30 complete previously unreleased live shows in honor of fare thee well. It was a waste of money actually but I’ve enjoyed delving into it. I had heard every show already but still was nice to revisit in soundboard vs god knows how many generation cassette tapes
	10:24pm Little Danny: Hey Kris, hey good people
	10:24pm Little Danny: Loveliness
	10:25pm Kris Holmes: Hey Dan!
	10:25pm Matt from New Orleans: It’s good WFMU archives the shows on their own website. Had this been uploaded to mixcloud, no one in the US would be able to listen.
	10:26pm Little Danny: "I Want a Girl" sure has an unintentionally odd lyric
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: hey Danny!
	10:32pm coelacanth∅: -Awesome that you got the tribute together so fast Kris
	10:34pm Little Danny: Do I recall that you have the Mad Lads' LP on Stax, Kris?
	10:35pm Kris Holmes: yes, I bought it at ARC a couple years back
	10:35pm Little Danny: Coela my dude, hello
	10:38pm Little Danny: And now I see that they had a coupla other LPs on Volt (in '69 and in '73). Had no idea
	10:38pm chresti: Put the penny on the arm
	10:40pm Kris Holmes: ugh, don't know where that gnarly scratch on that came from :-(
	10:41pm Little Danny: It's like you got that skipping 45 straight outta my collection, a home for record noise and defects
	10:42pm Kris Holmes: gonna have to try fix it later
	10:44pm Carmichael: Heya Kris. One more comp to put on my list ...
	10:44pm doctorjazz: Great sounding stuff...just a quick check in, gonna try to get close to my 8 hours of shut eye, but will have to catch up on the archive... Night (hi and bye)
	10:45pm doctorjazz: (Was tempted by that 80 CD Dead set...I'm more likely to pass on it, then spend twice as much getting the discs one by one]
	10:46pm chresti: ..I know I know I know I know I know...
	10:48pm Little Danny: I blame Otis
	10:50pm Dean: The Leonard Bernstein box issued by DG for last year's centennial consists of 121 CDs + 36 DVDs.
	10:50pm chresti: Great stuff, I especially like the doo-wappy songs
	10:52pm chresti: Night doc. I gotta hit the hay soon, too. Music stays on...
	10:53pm chresti: Hi/goodnight everbuddies!
	10:54pm chresti: This 1000 dances is sensational!
	10:55pm Matt from New Orleans: The Leonard Bernstein set is several hundred dollars cheaper for more material. Probably because a great deal of the music is public domain.
	10:56pm Little Danny: @Dean. Good lord. I mean, I understand the completist urge, but that's too much/many. Quality control, c'mon. Or is DG's understanding that no one is actually listening to entire discs start to finish?
	10:59pm Carmichael: I have the completionist urge for a few artists, but I don’t want everything they’ve muttered into an open mic.
	11:05pm Dean: I suspect some of the consumers of the CDs+DVDs already owned all or most of the LPs reissued as CDs. There are other issues out there of the same order of magnitude -- the Charles Munch 86 CD box, e.g. -- but Lenny, like the Dead, is something of a national treasure. That box, by the way, was only the complete DG label releases. Bernstein's discography includes as well recordings on Columbia, Angel, etc. The CBS box set from late 2017 (another centenary tribute) is 100 CDs. But Sony had already issued a Bernstein Edition during the '80s and '90s! Anyway, these discs are not designed to be heard as "albums" per se, nor were the original LPs, necessarily. When they're programmed well, indeed, one wants to hear everything, but I suspect classical fans are generally more picky about what to play, in what order, etc. That is, until the present century, when the whole concept of "album" has been challenged.
	11:06pm Little Danny: Much the same, Carmichael. Not to mention the artists that I am obsessed with (in a completist sort of way) have relatively small catalogs
	11:09pm Matt from New Orleans: How many 45s are you bringing with you to your gig on Sunday? It would seem like you’d need close to a thousand without repeats.
	11:10pm Matt from New Orleans: Tired math. Added an extra zero.
	11:11pm Kris Holmes: 125 would do it, the rule of thumb is 25 songs per hour, i'll probably pack 150ish
	11:14pm Matt from New Orleans: That’s still a lot of records to think about if trying to create a flow over 5 hours.
	11:14pm Dean: Well, see! Just play the DG Bernstein box set!
	11:15pm Little Danny: Thanks Dean! I knew that'd elicit an interesting response from you. And I think you confirmed my suspicions about the expected listening experience. I guess I'm skeptical of these lavish sets that aim for comprehensiveness over "listenability." Again, though, I get the impulse.
	11:19pm Dean: Right. Some Bernstein [or fill-in-the-blank-with-artist's-name] fans are also interested in when the records are not listenable. And on occasion that interest exhibits a healthy concern for the evolution of the artistic life of the subject.
	11:19pm Carmichael: Going through my 45s, I just found an original Excello release of Slim Harpo’s Don’t Start Crying Now. Where did I find/steal that?
	11:29pm Matt from New Orleans: The Dead box set for instance according to David Lemieux their archivist is supposed to tell the story of the dead through their evolution as a band. Clearly as the years progressed, there were far less successful shows that were worth including. The 80s/90s still had some great shows but the consistency was gone. Kids don’t do heroin.
	11:35pm Dean: Come to think of it, the Dead make for a nice comparison with Bernstein. Both released a ton of recorded music, and both had careers as live artists that were arguably more important than their studio careers.
	11:36pm Dean: I suppose the same might be said for "Weird Al" Yankovic.
	11:40pm Matt from New Orleans: Kris I’m laying down. I’ll listen to the end. Thanks for an enlightening show.
	11:41pm Kris Holmes: Thank you Matt
	11:42pm Dean: I grew up in a city, Whittier, CA, one of whose patriarchs was a fellow named Gene Chandler. His obituaries make no mention of his recording career.
	11:43pm Kris Holmes: Ha, THE Gene Chandler is still alive & singing thankfully
	11:43pm Martinibomb: Listening from portland thanks for the music!
	11:47pm Kris Holmes: You're welcome
	11:48pm Little Danny: Thanks for the top tunes, Kris
	11:49pm Kris Holmes: Cheers Dan
	11:56pm Franco Twinkie: Oh yeah, some heavyosity to push us off to bed. See ya, Kris.
	11:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Kris!
	11:58pm Dean: Great show, thank you!

The Long Way Home with Kris Holmes: Playlist from May 28, 2019

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