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Artist Track Album Format New Approx. start time
don cherry  utopia and visions   Favoriting Black Fire! New Spirits! Radical and Revolutionary Jazz in the USA 1957-82      0:00:00 (Pop-up)
creation rebel  space moment section 9   Favoriting starship africa      0:05:51 (Pop-up)
Abbey Lincoln  all alone   Favoriting the jazz queen      0:10:56 (Pop-up)
alice coltrane  om supreme   Favoriting eternity      0:16:48 (Pop-up)
lonnie holley  who's looking through these eyes?   Favoriting live on WFMU april 2013      0:26:16 (Pop-up)
snoh aalegra  whoa   Favoriting ugh, those feels again      0:40:07 (Pop-up)
 
archie shepp  blues for brother jackson   Favoriting attica blues      0:47:22 (Pop-up)
jamilla woods  Octavia   Favoriting LEGACY! LEGACY!      0:51:15 (Pop-up)
amara toure  africa (featiuring L'orchestre Massako)   Favoriting amara toure ( 1973-80)      0:55:06 (Pop-up)
erykah badu  amerykahn promise   Favoriting New Amerykah: Part One (4th World War)      1:02:11 (Pop-up)
chiiid  back to life ( featuring shungudzo)   Favoriting Back To Life  Single    1:06:04 (Pop-up)
Lloyd charmers  darker than blue   Favoriting darker than blue      1:09:29 (Pop-up)
darondo  let my people go   Favoriting let my people go      1:12:17 (Pop-up)
 
chico hamilton  a trip   Favoriting the dealer      1:20:54 (Pop-up)
minnie ripperton  Respect   Favoriting petals: the minnie riperton collection      1:27:03 (Pop-up)
dinah washington  i want to cry   Favoriting original queen of soul      1:30:19 (Pop-up)
eugene wright & his dukes of swing  dawn mist   Favoriting A Space Odyssey: From Birmingham to the Big Apple - the Quest Begins v/a      1:33:12 (Pop-up)
sun ra  new horizons   Favoriting A Space Odyssey: From Birmingham to the Big Apple - the Quest Begins v/a      1:36:32 (Pop-up)
african head charge  down under again   Favoriting great vintage volume 2      1:39:56 (Pop-up)
janelle monae  suite IV electric overture   Favoriting the electric lady suite IV      1:42:34 (Pop-up)
nina simone  backlash blues   Favoriting the blues      1:44:05 (Pop-up)
adrian younge and ali shaheed muhammad  jazz is dead   Favoriting jazz is dead      1:48:15 (Pop-up)
ALA.NI  your silence will not protect you   Favoriting ACCA    *   1:49:05 (Pop-up)
 
dennis bovell  oohkno   Favoriting i wah dub      1:54:29 (Pop-up)
esg  erase you   Favoriting esg      1:57:20 (Pop-up)
dennis alcapone  conqueror   Favoriting forever version      2:01:19 (Pop-up)
Naomi Shelton and the Gospel Queens  what more can i do?   Favoriting What Have You Done, My Brother?      2:06:31 (Pop-up)
herbie hancock  hidden shadows   Favoriting sextant      2:08:55 (Pop-up)
BLO  beware   Favoriting Chapters and Phases: The Complete Albums 1973-1975      2:18:44 (Pop-up)
 
public enemy  security of the first world   Favoriting It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back      2:26:00 (Pop-up)
Cleveland Eaton  All Your Lover, All Day, All Night   Favoriting black jazz radio      2:26:55 (Pop-up)
marva whitney  I'm Tired, I'm Tired, I'm Tired (Things Better Change Before It's Too Late)   Favoriting james brown's funky divas v/a      2:37:26 (Pop-up)
lyn collins  wheel of life   Favoriting james brown's funky divas v/a      2:38:45 (Pop-up)
love joys  all i can say   Favoriting lovers rock      2:43:06 (Pop-up)
joy wellboy  before the sunrise   Favoriting yorokobi's mantra      2:50:36 (Pop-up)
 
major lance  you don't want me no more   Favoriting       2:57:05 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
David (in London):

Hello Trouble and the Troublesome.
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common:

trouble, all
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Snoochienucci:

Trouble Time! :) Morning all!
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wizard frog:

Troublettes
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Handy Haversack:

Hi, Trouble and all the Troubled.

Troubled times for sure.
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duke:

Hello troublemakers. Don Cherry - great start
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am
MeMo BoingBoing:

I need some Trouble this week.
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Deborah:

Mood Changes! Good morning WFMU universe!
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Lixiviated Life:

seems like a good time for trouble
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Jennica:

Hi, all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Irene Trudel:

Mornin' all! ready for some good Trouble. Don Cherry is a great start!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Trouble:

good morning thursday people! happy to be here
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

Trouble, excellent opener
  9:02am
umorera:

ohhhhh DON CHERRY. wow. so good to hear this morning. Thank you. He was amazing. RIP.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am
Pale Son:

Perfect art, perfect start! Good morning, all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am
Jim the Poet:

Modern World, Take Me Away
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
bore in suffern:

this is exactly what I need
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
David (in London):

Hey Handy, Snoochie, Jennica.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
MeMo BoingBoing:

Troubled times call for Trouble.
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Snoochienucci:

Hey David! How are things by you? Has any bountiful harvesting been done on the garden yet?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05am
melinda:

Good morning friends.
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YETI BOB:

more utopia, more visions. thanks trouble for the beauty. went to a protest yesterday for the first time in a long time. felt good to be out there with the people instead of just looking at pictures and feeling isolated.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am
Mike & Dusty:

here for this
  9:07am
Bill W:

Greetings from a bedbound binge breakfaster, all ye.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am
David (in London):

Snoochie - The mint plant is really going for it now, so I'm hoping to do something with that at some stage. I dug out a small, dead woody shrub the other day and it was like a fight to death. I felt like I was losing at one stage, but I managed to turn it around and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. How's yourself?

Hey Melinda and Yeti Bob.
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Jennica:

David (iL)! Yay!
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SHAGALOV:

GOOD MORNING TROUBLE!
Morning everyone!
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Magda:

Good Morning Modern World Citizens
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Handy Haversack:

Yeti Bob, same here, same thing. But today ... I don't know. I see a lot of loss coming. The cops here are so bloodthirsty. Having some trouble seeing good futures, I guess.

Glad to have gone out. Can't do it again today, but might be able to tomorrow.

But WOW was being in a crowd a weird feeling!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
Your Ace From Exchange Place:

Good morning!
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Magda:

I thought for a second the Don Cherry you played was somehow related to the Canadian Hockey Comentator, and I was wondering how his loud suits related to his love for deep jazz tracks....realizing now two TOTALLY different Don Cherries
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am
Stanley:

Hi Trouble, Troubled and not-so Troubled.
Handy - I've been watching what's going on in the US and it's so surreal, the crowds.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15am
Trouble:

good morning bill w, good cheer to you!
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Snoochienucci:

Nice David, sounds like a well fought victory to me. Things are good by me, nice day out today. Trying to crunch out some work this AM so I have an easy afternoon, but well see how it goes.
  9:15am
ami ad:

Hello D.J. Hello all.Another day,another Trouble.Keep safe people.JobLess.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16am
David (in London):

Hi Stanley and ami ad
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:18am
MeMo BoingBoing:

Killing me softly with these songs.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:19am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble and tribe. The warm sunshine of a new day is upon us.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am
Crudbringer:

hey Trouble & guys of all genders, I brought some crud to share.
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Jennica:

@Handy, Good points. I can only imagine how odd it would feel to be in a crowd, given the current tension, and distancing even from our last memories and experiences of being physically close to others, not to mention how odd it feels to wear a bra, make-up, jewelry, or shoes. I might slightly embellish for the sake of reinforcing the point.

@KFHP - Love it! Thank you.

@Crud - Hi, Crud.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
David (in London):

My tomato and crud sandwich has been on hold for hours awaiting fresh supplies. Thank Heaven you've arrived Crudbringer.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am
David (in London):

Jennica - Shoes? Those are those weird things in the hallway, yes?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am
Handy Haversack:

Oooo, fresh crud! Perfect!

@Jennica, I forwent the bra and jewelry, and my makeup was a mask, but otherwise: exactly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am
Crudbringer:

I have raw crudites, pickled crud, jerked crud pemmican, deep-fried crud, sauteed crud, and this hot-n-zesty crud that I blasted with donkey sauce using a machine I built from bicycle parts and an old washing machine.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:24am
Dances with Moomins:

Hello DJ Trouble and hello to the Modernists the world over. In hope the current moment of protest actually is the turning point for we the people. Thanks Trouble for the serenity and this unity for the diverse.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:24am
Threemoons:

Morning Trouble, fellow Troublemakers.
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Jennica:

@ David (iL) - yeah, you know, the dog toys.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:27am
Threemoons:

@Crud, thanks, also I guess you're the one who dumped all of this Crud in my Inbox at work...sigh....so I guss today I'll be eating crud, crud and eggs, crud and sausages, crud, sausages and eggs, crud, eggs, and beans on toast, crud, crud, eggs, and crud, Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top, and crud.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:28am
Pale Son:

Alice making me cry over here. Finding all this upheaval incredibly stressful, as hopeful for change as it's also making me. And the knowledge that I'm in a position of incredible privilege and can't even imagine how much more stressful it must be for POC only makes it work.
  9:29am
ami ad:

No crud jerky?
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:29am
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Trouble & Modernaires!
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Pale Son:

*worse
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listener james from westwood:

Wish the FCC allowed his "I Woke Up in a Fucked-Up America"!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:31am
Crudbringer:

god if *only* anything would change. if *only* it would. please.
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Jennica:

pickleball!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am
Crudbringer:

@ami I mentioned the bisq^H^H^H^H pemmican.
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YETI BOB:

Pale Son: Heavy times indeed. I haven't ever felt like this before, in 50+ years of living in this crazy country.
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duke:

This is a great set
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am
Stanley:

@ Pale Son: It breaks my heart, too. But I am hopeful for a kinder world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am
Handy Haversack:

@Trouble: Kate made a list of racial protest songs for a music class she's the teaching artist for with NYC HS kids. Do you have any interest in seeing it? I could paste it in here or e-mail to you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am
Stanley:

@Threemoons: Lobster's orf. Only crud.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am
WoodsOfNH:

@listener james Word! I saw Lonnie a few years ago. Quite a beautiful experience.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am
Trouble:

we are having some tech problems with loading songs into accuplaylist, sorry.
  9:37am
ami ad:

@Crudbringer:My bad,not a foodie,an american.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:37am
Webhamster Henry:

A Lonnie Supreme.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
WoodsOfNH:

@Trouble Comment posting also got hung up for a minute. Also, I had a clicky-star just spin in place instead of highlight. Weird!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39am
Crudbringer:

Yeah, what Woods just said.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 9:39am
YETI BOB:

Sounds like the computer is just a bit overloaded. Trouble, you are doing a fantastic job! Great show today!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39am
Stanley:

And I've lost my Cat
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39am
Irene Trudel:

@listener james, Lonnie's album 'MITH' with that piece is on Bandcamp. Fees are waived on Friday the 5th, so I suggest getting a copy and supporting our favorite musicians like Lonnie.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am
Crudbringer:

@ami sorry I get touchy b/c sometimes customers confuse the crud jerky with the Jamaican jerked crud and they're all like I DIDN'T ORDER THIS and I'm just like _le sigh_
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Irene Trudel:

Aww, so sorry @Stanley!
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duke:

@Stanley So sorry. I know what it's like. My dear cat Gizmo died 2 weeks ago. Still mourning.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Stanley:

@Irene - I only meant my avatar on the comments box. Part of the gitchy thing going n.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Irene Trudel:

There may have been a momentary WFMU server problem. I had been updating a playlist and everything suddenly timed out. seems to be back now.
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βrian:

Day 80 and it's a beautiful morning on the isthmus. Some pics of downtown Madison:
imgur.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Trouble:

yeah, there were some problems@ irene...i can get in now, couldn't for a while
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David (in London):

Stanley, sorry to hear that mate.

Crudbringer - Don't worry, I've always thought that the post sales customer support at CrudR is excellent.
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

like this, reminds me a bit of Mary J
  9:42am
ami ad:

@Crudbringer:I feel you,and appreciate all you do.It's tuff out there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
WoodsOfNH:

My Bandcamp want list is frightfully long. May have to take the whole day off just to make purchases.
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βrian:

I hope it wasn't a Denial of Truth attack on the WFMU servers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
alanr:

Inspire us, Trouble, to find a moment a peace in the morning, before many of us take to the streets again and again for justice. Saludos from Mexico City. We're having a candlelight vigil tonight in front of the US embassy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Stanley:

duke: sorry to hear of Gizmo. Great name.
Cats are wonderful companions.
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Snoochienucci:

ahhhhh the birdies, im somehow not ashamed to say, one of the best parts of my week.
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TDK60:

Good morning.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44am
Irene Trudel:

Oh, I see Stanley. Condolences to you, @Duke on losing your kitty Gizmo. My kitties are my "children" and I know your pain of loss.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am
Handy Haversack:

@duke: Many sympathies. It's so very hard.

Gracias, @alanr.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am
Irene Trudel:

Wow, that was a disjointed sentence. Need more coffee and Trouble.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am
David (in London):

Snoochie - I love the birds, too.
Hey TDK.
  9:47am
ami ad:

Blue Balls Matter.
  9:49am
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Anyone else detect a troll?
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Panda Penguin:

Only just managed to make it, and I'm GUTTED to have missed such an incredible-looking opening set. I did a DIY radio set of my own last night and realised that a good batch of the stuff I played was directly inspired by stuff I was first exposed to on this show. So I just wanted to thank you and WFMU for broadening my horizons over my last few years of listening. x
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TDK60:

Hello David in the Londontown.
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Itzall Hear:

That "?" was I, BTW; I got the alternate "sign in" option before actually signing in.
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Stanley:

Birds are one of my great joys. I'm not a photographer or a spotter but do keep up my membership of the RSPB and the Scottish Seabird Centre and visit regularly. Such marvels of nature.
  9:52am
Bill W:

let's make sure it doesnt *end* with voting... or the reforms will be confined to Cops, Shoot for the Legs (D-Dela.).
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βrian:

"Hope is the thing with feathers, " says my cat.
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βrian:

[Via the window, to be specific.]
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Trouble:

yes @handy I would love to! pasting it here is cool, or emailing, your call
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55am
Stanley:

βrian: I'd like to see the cat up against one of our seagulls.
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Handy Haversack:

Will do, Trouble! Let me just edit out the YOuTube links like a good Hurstian.

@Stanley: Scottish Seabird Center FTW! Have you ever cruised around the Small Isles? The seabirds are so amazing. Also sea eagles at Mull.

Saw a cedar waxwing behind my bldg. the other day, which was quite a high!

Thanks for those pix, @βrian. Heat break on the isthmus?
  9:57am
Deena:

New Kings Democrats was organizing phone calls to repeal NYs article 50-A. If you get in touch with them they will provide you with the phone numbers of your elected officials and a script. You select a time slot so the phone lines aren’t jammed.

https://www.newkingsdemocrats.com

Trouble please announce if you can.
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βrian:

@Stanley: Oh, I really doubt he would go up against a black-capped chickadee, really. He has a soft touch.
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David (in London):

Stanley - We had a crow in the garden last week who was obviously protecting a freshly hatched brood. The local and cats and foxes were absolutely no match for it, it saw all of them off. At one stage it landed right next to a cat and went for it - the poor moggy turned around and fled PDQ. It was a badass crow.
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βrian:

Corvid 19, yo.
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βrian:

About to make a dash into the on-site office, 80 days on.
  10:01am
ami ad:

itzall Hear:Is it I the troll?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01am
Handy Haversack:

(OK, Kate's telling me to stop being a rigid Hurstian and just leave the YouTube links in place in case a teacher does want to use these to spare them the labor. Principles: compromised!)

Long post:

Spirituals
Wade in the Water (this version performed by Sweet Honey in the Rock in 2012)
First published in 1901, but before that sung by slaves, exact dates unknown, used as an instruction song by Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad, when you waded in the water when running away, dogs were more likely to lose your scent.
www.youtube.com...

Blues
Jim Crow Blues by Lead Belly
Blues originated in the South, and began to be popularized in the 1870s. Lead Belly became well-known as a virtuosic 12-string blues guitar player and singer; he was active as a blues musician from 1903-1949. The exact first recording date of "Jim Crow Blues" is unknown, but is estimated around 1930. Jim Crow laws enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States, beginning in the late 1800s through 1965. www.youtube.com...

The Bourgeouis Blues by Lead Belly (has the N-word)
Written in June 1937 in response to the discrimination and segregation that Lead Belly faced during a visit to Washington, DC to record for Alan Lomax. It rails against racism, the Jim Crow laws, and the conditions of contemporary African Americans in the southern United States.
www.youtube.com...

Jazz
Strange Fruit by Billie Holiday (MAJOR trigger warning here; powerful and scary imagery)
First recorded in 1939; this performance is from 1959.
www.youtube.com...

R&B
A Change Is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke
Released 1964
www.youtube.com...

Inner City Blues (Makes Me Wanna Holler) by Marvin Gaye
Released 1971
www.youtube.com...

Big Brother by Stevie Wonder
Released 1972
www.youtube.com...

Funk
Say It Loud (I'm Black and I'm Proud) by James Brown
Released 1968
www.youtube.com...

Reggae
Downpressor Man by Peter Tosh
Released in 1977
www.youtube.com...

Multi-Genre
Mississippi Goddam by Nina Simone
This performance is from 1965; originally released in 1964
www.youtube.com...

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised by Gil Scott-Heron
Released in 1970
www.youtube.com...

Rock
Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine (contains profanity)
Released in 1992--a song specifically about racist police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Hip-Hop/Rap
Fight the Power by Public Enemy (contains profanity)
Released in 1989
www.youtube.com...

F**k the Police by NWA (contains the N-word and profanity)
Released in 1988--specifically about police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Sound of the Police by KRS One
Released in 1993--specifically about police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Contemporary (Multi-genre, released in the last 10 years)
Hands Up by Vince Staples (contains the N-word and profanity)
Released 2014--specifically about police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Glory by Common and John Legend
Released 2014--has reference to police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Hell You Talmbout by Janelle Monae Feat. Wondaland Records
Released 2015--specifically about police brutality
www.youtube.com...

Cry No More by Rhiannon Giddens
Released 2015
www.youtube.com...
  10:03am
ami ad:

Major list Handy.
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Jennica:

@Handy: Thank you! Thanks Kate!
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ottovonbqe:

@David - I saw two crows having an all out brawl on the street last year. All the other crows were around watching. They are like the mafia of birds.
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Trouble:

tonight there is a hudson county board of freeholders introduction to candidates via you tube. NEW ideas and progressives! check it here at 7pm www.youtube.com...
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YETI BOB:

I was certain the name was "Leadbelly" but I just learned: 'Though many releases credit him as "Leadbelly", he himself wrote it as "Lead Belly"'
  10:05am
Adrian in London:

Hi Trouble, tuning in late; I didn’t realise it was Thursday.
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David (in London):

@ottovonbqe - Pretty soon it'll be tapping on the kitchen window and demanding protection money from us...
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Trouble:

that's ok, adrian. your excuse is the world is spinning off orbit
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am
Trouble:

thanks@ handy, looks great!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am
Handy Haversack:

I did, Jennica!

I have recommended this book on this and other boards, but: The Wake of Crows by Thom van Dooren. Crows are fascinating and a compelling argument against those who think only humans are sapient. They give gifts, they use tools (incl. fire!!), they mourn their dead.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Passaic River Blues:

@Handy: that one sounds interesting--I'll have to investigate. Bernd Heinrich's "Mind of the Raven" was an interesting read on a related corvid, the raven.
Avatar This Is The Modern World with Trouble Hellraiser 2024 10:13am
YETI BOB:

"Welcome to Earth, home of the great women and men. We are animals that have ideas! Maybe cats and ravens have ideas too, but they keep them to themselves." - Robyn Hitchcock, "Welcome to Earth"
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David (in London):

Handy, I've always been a massive fan of crows for exactly those kinds of reasons. One of my maxims is 'Be nice to a crow. You never know when you might need its good auspices in return.'
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Jennica:

Digging Darondo
  10:16am
Slaboch:

Darondo Forever! Sounding great Trouble!
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Handy Haversack:

There was a good story in Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2019 about an independent health robot, a crow, and a little girl helping save communities inflicted with poverty from a virus after the U.S. govt. had outsourced all national health matters to Amazon. So it might pay to be nice to them indeed, David!
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YETI BOB:

once i was camping and i roasted some heads of garlic (wrapped in foil) over the campfire. while i was waiting for them to cool off, some ravens swooped in and took them all. corvids are not only smart, apparently they have gourmet taste as well!
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ottovonbqe:

@YETI BOB - perhaps they just wanted the foil
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Stanley:

A seagull snatched a wrapped pasty from a shopping bag as I was unloading the car. Thought okay, you win this time. Then it happened again a few weeks later. Same pie but don't know if it was the same gull or that word had got around for the Saturday morning rip-off chance.
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Itzall Hear:

Crows don't play.
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TDK60:

I know a person who spent 11 years in solitary, a crime against humanity.
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melinda:

@Yeti Bob haha! The memorable time I saw a crow making off with food it was a ziploc bag of cheetos outside a library.
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Brian D:

For those interested: www.theguardian.com...
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Mike & Dusty:

a group of us listeners should go to city hall to protest those very subjects to.

“Are you outside agitators? Who sent you??”

“TROUBLE SENT US”
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rabblerabble:

Mornin', Trouble. Excellent set so far. Thanks!
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Itzall Hear:

I'll never forget seeing a crow strutting around the parking lot of a McDee's with a single french fry sticking out of his beak like he was smoking. Maybe he was just waiting for a light?
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Trouble:

If you want more information or want to be engaged and volunteer contact groups who are working for policy change:

-The NAACP NAACP.org

-Southern Poverty Law Center SPLC.org

-The Color of Change colorofchange.org

-Campaign Zero joincampaignzero.org
  10:24am
Polyus:

Here in Mpls it has been remarkable to see how quickly a number of entities who contract with the MPD have canceled those contracts. Minneapolis Public Schools, Park Board, Walker Art Center /
MIA and so on.
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YETI BOB:

@Trouble: It's amazing to hear the actual numbers. $230M on Police Misconduct cases? Hard to believe. (Another) clear sign that our policies and priorities are all screwed up.
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TDK60:

I'm an outside agitator. I also agitate inside, from home, sometimes.
  10:25am
northguineahills:

Driving to Georgia for work, thanks for the sounds!
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Trouble:

I got that number from mona chalabi, an amazing journalist who makes fab illustrations to show her point. i follow her on insta, i recommend everyone does
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Crudbringer:

Hello Outside Agitator, I'm a Rootless Cosmopolitan.
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Listening Out There:

...and I'm a Coastal Elite, tuning in...
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TDK60:

Good news from the City of Brotherly Love: Frank Rizzo's statue has come down.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Also, those crafty talking magpies, Heckle and Jeckle, always swiping that delicious corn.
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The Oscar:

Been busy working, but WOW this Minnie cover of Respect!! (Also great show top to bottom!)
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Trouble:

amazing segment on what to do with statues that should be torn down
art21.org...
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karlward:

I love this station
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Handy Haversack:

@Polyus: The sign Kate (a teacher) carried yesterday urged NYC schools to take a cue from Mpls. and get the cops out of the schools for good.
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YETI BOB:

@Trouble: Thanks for the Mona Chalabi tip, I'm on it. I also saw in today's news that the R.E.Lee statue in Richmond is finally coming down, not a moment too soon.
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Dances with Moomins:

@Polyus. That's very encouraging. Police have disconnected from serving 'we the people'. Hope they get the message . Now the whole world watches. Time for all Americans to vocally, actively repudiate racism. We the people are diverse. WE the people are DIVERSE ! It's obvious, isn't it? And it's time to make institutional, cultural changes ….political changes.
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Malcolm:

yay more sun ra :D still reeling from the sun ra setlast week
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Trouble:

Help send students to college with the United Negro College Fund. UNCF.org

Find out more about unjust sentencing habits at Sentencing Project.org
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WoodsOfNH:

@Crudbringer Rootless Cosmopolitan is my favorite Marc Ribot album.
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Jeezuseffinchrist:

yesssss girl, always bust out with Nina
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WoodsOfNH:

OK, I've had my zoom meeting and also started the white cannellini beans. That's enough productivity for one morning. Phew!
  10:48am
Phoebe:

A stellar listen, as always! Thanks Trouble!
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karlward:

The world wasn't ready for Nina Simone.
  10:49am
Dean:

I've long been wary of cops and, for that matter, of anybody who irresponsibly embraces authority that is his or hers by virtue of democratic will. But mere repudiation of racism is not enough, and maybe even the wrong tack. See https://nonsite.org/editorial/how-racial-disparity-does-not-help-make-sense-of-patterns-of-police-violence
  10:49am
prudy:

that's why she moved to France...
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Jeezy:

Wotta world... :-()
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Jennica:

YETI BOB: www.amazon.com...
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Passaic River Blues:

Verso Books is offering free ebook copies of Alex Vitale's "The End of Policing" and David Correia and Tyler Wall's "Police: A Field Guide."

Download links:
www.versobooks.com...
www.versobooks.com...
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Trouble:

thanks for that @prb!
libro.fm offers audio books at a comparable price to the amazonking, but you don't pay his highness and you can chose the indy book stores that you buy from. check it out: libro.fm...
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βrian:

Back from the office. It's like a space station there.
  11:05am
Dean:

Thanks for the Verso titles. See also Frank Zimring's When Police Kill, albeit it's not freely available except from a library: https://alumni.berkeley.edu/california-magazine/just-in/2017-02-21/book-brief-franklin-zimring-s-when-police-kill
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Jennica:

βrian: glad you made it back
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βrian:

Me, too. Especially since I retrieved my good earphones.
  11:09am
Dean:

Just learned about this, coming on Monday: https://www.law.berkeley.edu/news/livestream-race-and-policing/

The panelists are very impressive. Probably worth folks' time.
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Trouble:

thanks@dean!
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Carmichael:

Heya Trouble and Agitators.
  11:15am
Stephanie:

As usual, such great rescources being shared here from wfmu folx. Grateful to be tuning in today.
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cuteCloud:

thx 4 the ebook linx , prb!
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meredith:

45 minutes of Trouble is better than no minutes of Trouble. Morning all. Meetings went long this am. In the auspicious words of King Stevie, "Love is in need of love today." Do what you can and then just a little more <3
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Dean. Still reading the other article you linked to.
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Itzall Hear:

Thank you Trouble, for another insightful, as well as thoroughly entertaining program! This show sure does fly by.
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YETI BOB:

@Jennica: Haha, thanks, that's great! I'll try to see if I can find that somewhere other than Amazon (Bezos is rich enough)
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Trouble:

thanks for your kind words@ itzall hear
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Jennica:

work meeting on deck... Thanks Trouble
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Ike:

This forthcoming book about an attempt to blockade Washington DC seems appropriate to what's happening now: smile.amazon.com...
(Remember to choose "Auricle Communications" to benefit WFMU via "Smile" if you buy anything from the... Azamonster? Or do what Trouble said and use your local library.)
  11:23am
Adrian in London:

I misread this band as ELO and thought, wow, this is a side to Jeff Lynne I didn’t know about
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MuttonChops:

Keep it spinning Trouble!
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cuteCloud:

woo Teaching To Transgress <3
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Fuzzy:

Just hooked up with Verso and downloaded me a Field Guide -- thanks, prb!
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meredith:

might I pile on and recommend Gyasi's spectacular debut Homegoing?
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happymaan:

This is a good book. en.wikipedia.org...
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Trouble:

some reading suggestions

The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander

Sula by Toni Morrison

How to be Anti-racist by Ibram X. Kendi

The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead

Teaching to Transgress by bell hooks
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MuttonChops:

Thanks! Continue supporting local libraries!
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Trouble:

more great organizations that deserve checking into and supporting:

Reclaimtheblock.org

Equal Justice Initiative EJI.org

Blacklivesmatter.com

Black Youth Project 100 BYP100.org

civilrights.org
  11:31am
Dean:

I need to revisit Edmund Morgan's American Slavery, American Freedom, too.
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TDK60:

For background analysis, W.E.B. DuBois.
  11:32am
JakeGould:

If people want to buy any book and avoid Amazon entirely but want to buy online, here is BookShop.org: bookshop.org

Or just search for the book on Bay and buy directly from local bookstores. You need to check who the seller is and many of them are explicit charities, but from my experience few to no Amazon “drop ship” resellers deal with books.
  11:33am
sugarwolf:

I’m happy to see there have been local protests but many seem to be “but we like the local police!!!” and I don’t know about that.
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Snoochienucci:

I dont mean to over simplify or get political on here (seriously this is my happy place). But how could you possibly put an end to police departments? Who is going to protect people, say in poor neighborhoods, where violence is a problem? Especially when the right to bear arms is also simultaneously talked about being taken away.

We have seen recently how much destruction can be caused to both public and private businesses/buildings, (I in no way mean to confuse the people rioting with protestors either). Could you imagine if there were no police to stop some of what has been going on? Meanwhile a store owner also cant defend himself from someone who may be breaking in with a gun pointed at him?
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Gaylord Fields:

Trouble, another WFMU DJ mentioned to me how proud they were to be part of this station during this important moment in time. This program, both on the regular and in particular today, is precisely the sort of thing we were referencing. You walk it like you talk it, and I’m priviliged to call you a colleague and a friend.
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TDK60:

Gotta leave early; thanks Trouble.
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YETI BOB:

I read the Adolph Reed Jr. article and have many criticisms of it. Sure, class is a factor too. But addressing racism is not some kind of distraction, it's vital. Nobody is "demanding ritual declarations that black lives matter". It's the name of a movement, like "Me too". If you don't want to use that phrase, don't use it. The article is full of weird straw-man arguments and cherry-picking of statistics. And his dismissal of Ta-Nehisi Coates for not finishing college is inexecusable, a real cheap shot. Could go on but I'll stop here.
  11:36am
ami ad:

Courtesy Professionalism Respect,the 3 thing the NYPD does not stand for are written on every cop car.
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WoodsOfNH:

@JakeGould There was a New Yorker article about that a short while back. You can actually create a virtual bookstore with it. I think they talked about one that was named something like "The Bookshop At The End Of The World"
  11:37am
JakeGould:

“But how could you possibly put an end to police departments?” Our very own Sam Segal explains it well and eloquently on his playlist from last night:

www.wfmu.org...

“I think the idea of police abolition is that we gradually divest from police, jails, and prisons, and use that money to invest in social services, public infrastructure, and other resources that keep people safe without the involvement of the carceral state. It isn't something that can happen overnight, but I think there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that policing is not an effective strategy for reducing "crime." This interview, and the book "The End of Policing," which it references are good placed to learn more about the concept of police abolition.”

“For instance, in a society that doesn't disproportionately invest its resources in police, prisons, and the military, we could provide everyone with housing, health care, education, food, and meaningful work. In that kind of society, I suspect that the incidence of car theft and other property crime would decrease significantly, thereby decreasing the need for a police force to investigate these crimes. This kind of dynamic would snowball over the course of time, leading to the eventual abolition of policing as we know it.”
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Trouble:

awww gaylord! you are making me cry! glad to fly the flag thursday mornings. i am proud of wfmu and what it represents, and that most surely includes you!
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Gaylord Fields:

@Trouble: ✊
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Gaylord Fields:

I wish that fist were darker, but message is still there.
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Ike:

@Snoochie, I had a similar question last night too, and as Jake is pointing out, I thought Sam Segal's responses to me on his playlist were fascinating. I hope it's not all just pie in the sky and that some of it might actually be possible.
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Snoochienucci:

JakeGould, I hear that, and it all sounds very nice and utopian. But idk it seems a little overly hopeful that people wont do the wrong thing when the opportunity is presented to them.

"In that kind of society, I suspect that the incidence of car theft and other property crime would decrease significantly" is a HUGE hypothetical to destroy a society over. People of all races, ethnicity and upbringings commit crimes. How many college kids get too drunk and do stupid things? They have opportunities. I mean Donald Trump is rich and all, but he is still greedy and would take from people when he can right?
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Trouble:

exactly@gaylord! x
  11:45am
JakeGould:

@Snoochienucci: The general idea is that defunding the police and then investing money in current — and even new — social support systems and changing the role of the police in many places such as the U.S. can change things.

You know in Japan, police are seen more as a community service and if/when violence happens special officers within the department are the ones that engage the problem?

Deconstruct what the police does and reconstruct it into something new.

Heck, one can do the same with fire departments: You know how many fire department calls have utterly nothing to do with fires and property but rather heath care with people? Tons! Why does the FDNY have healthcare in their service portfolio? Because you need a pumper truck to arrive if someone breaks a leg?

Why are old structures cobbled with tasks that are not their core competency?

And to even better understand it look at the different roles U.S. Marshalls, the National Guard, FBI and CIA and such have. They are all ultimately authorities with some kind of weapon right? But none of these groups murder people for selling loose cigarettes or supposedly passing counterfeit $20 bills.

Only police departments are endlessly making “mistakes” that kill people so consistently like this.
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Snoochienucci:

@Jake i agree with that last statement completely. Im not saying im against reform in any way. Hell, I have been profiled and "processed" by police myself. But to say things like "abolish police", not saying that is your opinion, is just a ridiculous over simplification
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ami ad:

@JakeGould:Right on.World wide problem.
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Passaic River Blues:

@Snoochi: I would agree a position advocating for immediate abolishment of all law enforcement with absolutely no plan for day-after effects is a pie-in-the-sky argument. But, tacking on to Jake here, there are two parallel and interrelated pathways to reform I've seen discussed: (1) more immediate efforts to "abolish," streamline or completely restructure current department structures with redesigned forces incorporating civilian review and an independent death/force review process baked into the reformed system (e.g., disband redundant forces + import genuine CCRBs directly into PD structure); and (2) a longer term redistribution of state resources to achieve the gradual societal change outlined by Sam Segal and Jake.
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Gaylord Fields:

The police in the 21st century are a paramilitary force, with the “para” dissipating with every rocket launcher it receives in its arsenal. When the only tool you have is a hammer, you treat everything as if it’s a nail.
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WoodsOfNH:

I don't have a lot of hope or these ideas.The U.S. currently can't solve problems with tiny, incremental changes. Big ideas seem impossible. I hate to be so negative about it all.
  11:50am
JakeGould:

@Gaylord: What would Barney Fife look like in the 21st Century?
  11:52am
JakeGould:

@WoodsofNH: The most immediate non-incremental thing can be done is simply stop sending surplus military equipment flowing into police departments.

You think these cops would be using that gear if they actually had to pay for it?
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Gaylord Fields:

@Jake: He’d be issued one shell for his grenade launcher. Watch out, Otis!
  11:52am
Dean:

YETI BOB: I hear you. Intentionally or not, Reed is being provocative. But I think it's worth noting that the comment about Coates was in a footnote excursus rant about anti-racist ad hominem argument. Moreover, Reed isn't suggesting race isn't a "factor." He's pointing out that you can't *explain* the incidence of violence purely in terms of race. Zimring also relies on statistics to make his argument, and in much greater detail. Simply put, it's complicated, and race is but one factor. (Zimring also proposes ways to adjust the culture of policing that are at least plausibly practical.)
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Gaylord Fields:

Race is often a shorthand for class, until someone develops a gizmo you point at someone that tells you their FICO score.
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JakeGould:

@Snoochienucci: Because shouting “Defund the Police” or “Demilitarize the Police” sounds ridiculous and non threatening.

You say “Abolish Police” and that sends a strong message to everyone including the police who — let’s face it — have very secure financial plans for life thanks to their jobs.

Once you are in a career service job like that you will never feel financial pain even if you murder someone. That is one hell of a gig because even U.S. military don’t have anything like that.
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Trouble:

thanks for all your support today and please continue the conversation: look up these groups and programs that are trying to change society. support their efforts, be kind to your neighbor. and that means standing up for those who can't
  11:54am
Polyus:

The other night I was watching a piece on local news about Guard troops deployed to help a looted local grocery store reopen were being treated like stars by the residents. People were apparently asking some of these soldiers if they could stay after this is all over - an attempt at feel-good reporting, sure, but
it says something that the community’s
relationship with the Minneapolis PD is
that bad.
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Snoochienucci:

@PassaicRB hear that and also agree. I guess for me its really a matter of reform. I just dont like those trigger words that oversimplfy things like "abolish police", is good for public discussion in anyway. Cops are people too, there are good cops, there are cops that want the best for their community. I dont think your average cop wants to go out and kill his citizen. Anyway that's the end of the politics for me. Love you all!
  11:54am
ami ad:

Thank you D.J. for bringing up important issues on air and comments board.Thanks all.Keep safe.JobLess.
  11:54am
JakeGould:

Thank you Trouble for being you!
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Snoochienucci:

Thanks Trouble! Awesome show as always
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Marley P. Dogg:

Thanks for the great show today Trouble! Be well everyone
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listener 126464:

Thank you Trouble.
  11:57am
JakeGould:

Also, please blame the resurgence in super hero films that endlessly play to the idea that any one of use can be “violent gods” that bring order to the world.

As much as I liked Iron Man as a kid, eff all of those movies that glorify a billionaire defense contractor.

Screw the MCU and the DCU for infecting kids minds. The films are more pervasive than the comic books.
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Irene Trudel:

Thanks for all this beautiful music, Trouble!
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YETI BOB:

@Dean: I don't have any beef with you and I don't want to get into any arguments here. Just registering my strong objection to Reed's arguments and general tone. It *was* provocative - it provoked disapproval from me.
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Fuzzy:

Thanks Trouble!
  11:58am
Farmer Rye in Santa Cruz:

thank you for the support and resources. ACAB
  11:58am
Tamar:

Great show, Trouble!
  11:58am
JakeGould:

Thank you again and again and again Trouble.
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Passaic River Blues:

Thank you, Trouble!
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Snoochienucci:

@JakeGould BTW i didnt mean to direct any of that right at you or make it seem like i was being argumentative. Happy to have a meaningful conversation!
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YETI BOB:

My favorite radio show of the week - and that's saying a lot, WFMU has some great shows. Thanks to Trouble and all WFMU crew!
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Snoochienucci:

Thanks again Trouble! See ya next week!
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Mike & Dusty:

I love a resource that swings, thank you again Trouble
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Handy Haversack:

Shoot! I was away from the keyboard at the end. Thanks, Trouble. Really lifted me up -- again.
  9:34am
Joe:

Thanks for introducing me to Lonnie Holley. Amazing.
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