WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from September 6, 2020

Listener comments!
	9:01am DJpeterDE: Good morning Outcasts
	9:02am Jeff Golick: C'mon in, @DJpeterDE!
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	🥁 9:04am redkayak: Good morning ,everyone !
	9:05am fred: Good morning Jeff and all
	9:05am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:06am DJpeterDE: I haven’t seen an official obit yet
	9:07am fred: It's not a good sign that "jazz news" usually means someone died
	🥁 9:07am hyde: Hello!
	9:08am TDK60: Good morning Jeff and outfielders.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Warm greetings, @listener james, @redkayak, @fred, @Andrew Waterloo, @hyde, and @TDK60!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @fred: yeah, that's not a sign of a healthy artform, is it.
	9:12am TDK60: If not familiar, another Drummer DJ plays "library" music often: Flash and his Explorers Room show.
	9:12am Listener Gregory: Shrödinger’s Peacock was the worst psychedelic band of the 70s.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Oh, yes. @TDK60. I want to be like Flash Strap when I grow up.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: @Listener Gregory! Well, it's true they were hard to pin down.
	9:14am TDK60: Heehee Jeff. He really gets into it; more of his comments are usually posted than listeners'!
	9:15am fred: I think jazz is healthy enough, it's just no longer popular enough to make news
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I agree, @fred. It's also a comment on what the media deems "newsworthy."
	🥁 9:23am WR: Hello all. Regarding "jazz" health, Sewelson's program has been relevatory for me for hearing both the music and the mind set of some younger artists. Regarding bandcamp Fridays, I missed August due to work blowing up and for this weekend, I think I added as many to my wishlist as I purchased.
	🥁 9:23am Listener Gregory: I wonder if the confusion about Peacock means that he hasn't died yet or that the whole story was wrong? P.S. Did Ziporyn actually PLAY the gamelan on that piece? He's a clarinetest in real life.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: @WR! Greetings. Yes, Dave Sewelson's show is a must listen (Saturday afternoon on the Drummer stream)! Jazz as a living, breathing, homemade thing, that show.
	9:26am fred: Damn, I missed bandcamp Friday because paypal now requires 2FA and I don't have a mobile phone. I've been trying to find a workaround for a couple of weeks, to no avail. I hopefully just found one, but too late
	9:26am DJpeterDE: I have not heard of this guy but I’m gonna day he’s Peter Evans and Wadada Leo Smith’s love child
	9:27am Jeff Golick: @LG: I think it was a Ziporyn composition, played by others.
	9:28am Jeff Golick: @fred: you'll have other opportunities. I think Bandcamp is running those Fridays for the rest of the year (1st Friday of each month).
	9:30am DJpeterDE: This track reminds me that James Newton told me that the music of women in church was a big influence on him and he thinks hearing his aunts is what made him choose the register of the flute
	9:31am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Fascinating, @DJpeterDE. Good insight. Heyo, @holland oats!
	9:34am fred: I heard at work that yet another way the pandemic hits musicians is that the lack of big event means they're not getting royalty money from music played at non-music event. It wasn't much for most, but the cuts do add up
	🥁 9:37am redkayak: @jeff - Lovely set. You're earning your keep today sir :)
	9:38am Jeff Golick: It's so grim, @fred. @redkayak: kind of you to say; glad you're here for it.
	9:42am fred: On the positive side, shows are starting to come back here (though maybe not for long). I bought 53 tickets for the coming year, I'll see how many actually happen (I need to support them, otherwise they won't be around when the pandemic is gone)
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Lovely soundings!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: @Doug Schulkind! A lovely sighting!
	🥁 9:48am Listener Gregory: Never heard of Cymerman, but I'm hearing him now!
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Cymerman is generally a clarinet player, but ranges widely. He has a project called Blood Mist that is death metal-adjacent, I think. He also has a very good podcast featuring interviews with current musicians: www.5049records.com...
	9:52am DJpeterDE: The wife says this is a Morricone spaghetti western about space whales
	9:55am fred: Jazz-death-metal? Why didn't this get played on the station!
	9:55am Jeff Golick: I'd watch that.
	9:56am holland oats: starring lemmy
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Cymerman has a fascinating story: observer.com...
	9:59am Jeff Golick: @fred: searched "bloodmist" in the archives, and it appears Kurt G. and Sam S. have played it, c. 2016!
	10:00am listener james from westwood: This Cluster is a treat.
	🥁 10:04am WR: Cluster has plenty of attitude. "Cluster shows routinely lasted six hours or more, luring both the band and the audience into a state of intoxication, no doubt acutely enhanced by the intake of certain substances. The buzzwords of the moment were: psychedelic, magical, ritualistic, corresponding more or less to the Dionysian hedonism which pervades certain styles of contemporary music culture today. It is worth noting this context as useful background when listening to the live recordings presented here."
	10:20am Uncle Michael: May I say something now?
	10:27am Jeff Golick: @UM! Always!
	🥁 10:30am Doug Schulkind: Hoping for a Peacock survival.
	🥁 10:33am duke: Howdy Jeff and non-Jeffs
	10:35am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @duke! Same, @Doug.
	🥁 10:39am Listener Gregory: I heard a rumor that Annette is still alive.
	10:41am Jeff Golick: This reminds me of a hip-hop sample.
	10:41am Storkie McStorkFace: Hi-LillyHi-Lo! A snappy Sunday salute to all.
	10:42am Jeff Golick: @Storkaroonie!
	10:43am Jeff Golick: Oh, it's that Eugene MacDaniels riff that ATCQ used, that's what I'm thinking of.
	🥁 10:44am hyde: This Annette Peacock has apparently been sampled on a slew of hip hop tracks
	10:46am Storkie McStorkFarce: This Jacqueline Humbert/David Rosenboom is just loverly! Don't know them.
	10:47am Jeff Golick: It's a remarkable record. Kind of a dark piece overall.
	10:47am Storkie McStorkFarce: She reminds me a tiny bit of Elly Stone.
	10:50am Dean: Humbert was Robert Ashley's leading lady for a number of his operas. Rosenboom has been at it a long time with synthesizers and other electronics. He even worked with Anthony Braxton.
	10:50am Jeff Golick: Hi there, @Dean. Thanks for that.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: There's so much beautiful music out there I can hardly take it.
	10:58am fred: @Jeff: How is the college covid situation going? Good so far, hopefully
	11:00am Jeff Golick: Thanks for asking, @fred. So far, so good. My son's school seems to be managing well, and the kids are generally being smart. The school has less than 3,000 kids, and a lot of space, and a president who is an epidemiologist, so they do have the ingredients for success.
	🥁 11:01am Listener Gregory: The closing of SUNY Oneonta is ominous. The county had very low infections before, and then it went up to nearly 400 related to the campus.
	11:03am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that wasn't good news at all.
	🥁 11:05am Doug Schulkind: All those Kip Hanrahan releases on American Clavé was a wonderful time. The sound is so immediately recognizable and sui generis.
	11:06am Jeff Golick: I love them, Doug, but could never figure out who was playing what on which tracks...
	🥁 11:08am Listener Gregory: Many of those albums had a good sprinkling of Don Pullen or David Murray on them.
	11:08am Storkie McStorkFarce: Ahh, that rings a bell, Dean! Thanks!
	🥁 11:09am Listener Gregory: Re: that Helen Merrill record... I am learning something today. That one totally passed me by.
	🥁 11:10am Brian in UK: Quick hello.
	🥁 11:10am DJpeterDE: re: Hanrahan, co-sign Doug and co-sign Jeff
	🥁 11:11am Doug Schulkind: Nice but terribly designed American Clavé website here: www.americanclave.com...
	🥁 11:11am Brian in UK: Trondheim Jazz Orc, must be cool jazz.
	11:12am Jeff Golick: Nice, @Brian in UK. Wasting no time, I see.
	11:15am listener james from westwood: Jazz Orcs would've turned the tide at the Battle of Helm's Deep.
	11:16am Jeff Golick: Jazz Orcs of a different kind: www.vice.com...
	🥁 11:16am Listener Gregory: @listener james, I'm not so sure. I think they might have gotten caught up in an argument about whether the others were "really" jazz orcs, or just sell-outs who were ruining jazz orcdom. Then they would have killed one another.
	11:18am fred: Chile is a strange place. People from there can have incompatible views depending on their background. Well, maybe not so strange, we're definitely getting there
	🥁 11:20am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, not entirely comfortable with the idea of people playing random sounds loudly and badly being called "free jazz." Sounds like an argument from 1964.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: Yeah, it's goofy that way, @LG. Hearts in the right place, though.
	11:27am Dean: This List Elegy reminds me of Copland's Quiet City.
	🥁 11:28am Brian in UK: Talking of Chile, Victor Jara kind of tribute album. www.nme.com...
	🥁 11:29am WR: It was interesting vocal set. I was grocering so couldn't look at the tracks as they went by. Will be reviewing from the archive.
	🥁 11:29am Listener Gregory: I haven't wanted to bring this up before, but I feel I have to ask: Does one polish a velvet rope??
	🥁 11:30am Brian in UK: @LG would standing up or sitting down when playing make a difference.
	🥁 11:31am Listener Gregory: @Brian in UK, sorry... a difference to what? My initial guess is yes.
	🥁 11:32am Brian in UK: Your comment at 11:20
	11:32am fred: @LG: Then again, pols shouting racist calls loudly and badly, calling it "freedom" isn't great either. Sounds like an argument from the late 1930's
	11:33am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff, OUTies
	🥁 11:33am Brian in UK: fred I thought that the 1930s were on time if not early.
	🥁 11:34am Listener Gregory: @Brian & Fred, yes, I agree with what the musicians are doing. I just wouldn't call it "free jazz." Of course, if you sit down when playing jazz, you are not a true musician... unless we discover that they used to do it that way in New Orleans.
	🥁 11:36am Brian in UK: Right I am off back to the land of the jibber.
	11:37am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the jabber, @Brian! And greetings, @coelacanth∅!
	11:42am fred: @LG: I saw Joe McPhee sit down many times, he wasn't technically playing, but in a sense he was, pushing the others to step up. He's such a great leader
	🥁 11:46am Listener Gregory: I have never before thought of the sitting/standing issue before, but I will dogmatically choose one or the other as soon as I can figure out which side I should be on.
	11:46am Jeff Golick: >>>>>>STORK!>>>>>>: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:46am Listener Gregory: That said, nothing will get me to criticize Joe McPhee.
	🥁 11:48am Doug Schulkind: Grossman resides in a glaring blindspot of mine. To no fault of his, of course.
	11:48am Dean: Fred Lonberg-Holm almost always sits.
	11:48am Jeff Golick: Cellists in general, too.
	11:49am Dean: Woody Allen, for example.
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: Jazz police should focus on deeper matters, such as whether the musicians part their hair on the left or right. I think we all know what the correct answer is there!
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: I believe Art Blakey was known to sit down, later in his career. This is more complex than I originally realized.
	11:51am Jeff Golick: @Dean: I watched the beginning of Broadway Danny Rose recently. Just for a taste. It's a good looking movie.
	11:51am fred: I does seem awkward to call out musicians for sitting on the drummer stream
	11:51am Dean: But the cello bit is in Take the Money and Run, right? I haven't seen BDR.
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that's right, @Dean. (At least if memory servies.)
	11:52am fred: It
	🥁 11:53am DJpeterDE: Woody Allen & jazz is a rabbit hole, but I confirm that the cello marching band bit is in TTMAR (which is what I am calling that movie now)
	🥁 11:53am DJpeterDE: Astor Piazzolla supposedly invented a harness so he could play the bandoneon while standing because "only women play sitting down"
	11:54am Dean: I saw TTMAR in the theater, maybe a couple years after its release. In other words, a long time ago.
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Ooof. Don't cry for me, Astor Piazzolla.
	11:54am spodiodi: i bet his toilet seat is a mess
	🥁 11:55am Listener Gregory: There used to be a riddle, "What do men do standing up that women do sitting down and dogs do on three legs?" but it doesn't work any more.
	11:55am Jeff Golick: Ha! @spodiodi! What an entrance.
	🥁 11:56am Listener Gregory: (Answer was: shake hands.)
	11:56am spodiodi: sorry. good morning, Jeff, all! was trying to be respectfully quiet during the end of your show, but i couldn't resist. :)
	🥁 11:57am WR: This Matt Moran mattmoranmusic.bandcamp.com...
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:58am coelacanth∅: astor piazzola, aside from being sexist, must be insecure about his masculinity
	11:59am Storkie McStorkFarce: Such a nice show! I came, I heard, I plotzed! CU next time, JG!
	🥁 11:59am Listener Gregory: Excellent show, Jeff. Think twice before polishing your velvet, though. I think maybe just vacuum it off.
	11:59am Storkie McStorkFarce: Stork Club playlist here: wfmu.org...
	11:59am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 12:00pm DJpeterDE: @spodiodi hahahahaha
	🥁 12:00pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 12:01pm DJpeterDE: @WR thanks for the link
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: @spodiodi: respectfully quiet? Don't bother! Fire at will. Thanks for being here, and big thanks to: @ljfw, @coel, @Storkie, @LG, @DJpeterDE, @chresti, @WR (yes, that's the one!), and everybody out there.
	🥁 12:05pm WR: Thank you Jeff!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:23 (Pop-up)
Egisto Macchi	Organo e corda arpa	Sud e magia	Soave	1977/2020		0:07:19 (Pop-up)
Gamelan Galak Tika	Sa'at Sadar "Sa'at Sadar" by "Gamelan Galak Tika"	Unreleased Gamelan Tracks	Evan Ziporyn	?/2020	(Evan Ziporyn, comp.)	0:15:16 (Pop-up)
Luís Vicente	Lage Fria "Lage Fria" by "Luís Vicente"	Maré	Cipsela	2020		0:20:47 (Pop-up)
James Newton	Amazing Grace - Version 1	The Manual of Light	Orenda Records	2018		0:27:24 (Pop-up)
Jeremiah Cymerman	Transmigration: From Soil to Soil	Transmigration	5049 Records	2020		0:32:40 (Pop-up)
Cluster	Fabrik, Hamburg 1972 "Fabrik, Hamburg 1972" by "Cluster"	Konzerte 1972/1977	Bureau B	1972/2017		0:48:06 (Pop-up)
Daniel Schmidt and The Berkeley Gamelan	Untitled	Abies Firma	Recital Program	2019		1:09:23 (Pop-up)
Clifton Joey Guidry III	Shut the fuck up and listen	Darkness Is a Myth	Clifton Joey Guidry III	2020		1:13:37 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					1:18:47 (Pop-up)
Garrett List	Fly Hollywood "Fly Hollywood" by "Garrett List"	The Unbearably Light	Carbon 7	1995		1:25:13 (Pop-up)
Annette Peacock	Survival "Survival" by "Annette Peacock"	The Perfect Release	Aura	1979		1:28:56 (Pop-up)
Jacqueline Humbert & David Rosenboom	Wishes	Daytime Viewing (1979-1980)	Unseen Worlds	1982/2013		1:43:13 (Pop-up)
David Garland	I Am with You "I Am with You" by "David Garland"	Control Songs	Review Records	1986		1:49:01 (Pop-up)
Garrett List	The Voyage "The Voyage" by "Garrett List"	The Voyage	Carbon 7	1998		1:52:19 (Pop-up)
Kip Hanrahan	Love Is Like a Cigarette	Days and Nights of Blue Luck Inverted	American Clavé	1987		1:56:53 (Pop-up)
Helen Merrill with the Gary Peacock Trio	My Man	Sposin'	Storyville	1971		2:02:39 (Pop-up)
Real Estate	People's Parties "People's Parties" by "Real Estate"	Good Music to Avert the Collapse of American Democracy	Good Music	2020		2:07:13 (Pop-up)
Trondheim Jazz Orchestra / Kim Myhr & Jenny Hval	Something new	In The End His Voice Will Be The Sound of Paper	Hubro	2016		2:09:54 (Pop-up)
Garrett List	Elegy: To the People of Chile	The New York Takes	Carbon 7	1999		2:14:59 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					2:27:01 (Pop-up)
Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris	Conduction No. 175 - Encore III	Nublu Orchestra: Live in Bergamo	Nublu Records	2008/2020		2:33:56 (Pop-up)
Ray Russell's Rock Workshop	Street War	Street War: Live 1970	Jazz in Britian	1970/2020		2:40:04 (Pop-up)
Steve Grossman	Extemporaneous Combustion	Some Shapes to Come	PM	1973		2:45:48 (Pop-up)
Matt Moran	Ripples "Ripples" by "Matt Moran"	Return Trip	Diskonife	2020		2:52:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:57:24 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:01am DJpeterDE: Good morning Outcasts
	9:02am Jeff Golick: C'mon in, @DJpeterDE!
	9:04am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!
	🥁 9:04am redkayak: Good morning ,everyone !
	9:05am fred: Good morning Jeff and all
	9:05am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	9:06am DJpeterDE: I haven’t seen an official obit yet
	9:07am fred: It's not a good sign that "jazz news" usually means someone died
	🥁 9:07am hyde: Hello!
	9:08am TDK60: Good morning Jeff and outfielders.
	9:09am Jeff Golick: Warm greetings, @listener james, @redkayak, @fred, @Andrew Waterloo, @hyde, and @TDK60!
	9:09am Jeff Golick: @fred: yeah, that's not a sign of a healthy artform, is it.
	9:12am TDK60: If not familiar, another Drummer DJ plays "library" music often: Flash and his Explorers Room show.
	9:12am Listener Gregory: Shrödinger’s Peacock was the worst psychedelic band of the 70s.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: Oh, yes. @TDK60. I want to be like Flash Strap when I grow up.
	9:13am Jeff Golick: @Listener Gregory! Well, it's true they were hard to pin down.
	9:14am TDK60: Heehee Jeff. He really gets into it; more of his comments are usually posted than listeners'!
	9:15am fred: I think jazz is healthy enough, it's just no longer popular enough to make news
	9:17am Jeff Golick: Yeah, I agree, @fred. It's also a comment on what the media deems "newsworthy."
	🥁 9:23am WR: Hello all. Regarding "jazz" health, Sewelson's program has been relevatory for me for hearing both the music and the mind set of some younger artists. Regarding bandcamp Fridays, I missed August due to work blowing up and for this weekend, I think I added as many to my wishlist as I purchased.
	🥁 9:23am Listener Gregory: I wonder if the confusion about Peacock means that he hasn't died yet or that the whole story was wrong? P.S. Did Ziporyn actually PLAY the gamelan on that piece? He's a clarinetest in real life.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: @WR! Greetings. Yes, Dave Sewelson's show is a must listen (Saturday afternoon on the Drummer stream)! Jazz as a living, breathing, homemade thing, that show.
	9:26am fred: Damn, I missed bandcamp Friday because paypal now requires 2FA and I don't have a mobile phone. I've been trying to find a workaround for a couple of weeks, to no avail. I hopefully just found one, but too late
	9:26am DJpeterDE: I have not heard of this guy but I’m gonna day he’s Peter Evans and Wadada Leo Smith’s love child
	9:27am Jeff Golick: @LG: I think it was a Ziporyn composition, played by others.
	9:28am Jeff Golick: @fred: you'll have other opportunities. I think Bandcamp is running those Fridays for the rest of the year (1st Friday of each month).
	9:30am DJpeterDE: This track reminds me that James Newton told me that the music of women in church was a big influence on him and he thinks hearing his aunts is what made him choose the register of the flute
	9:31am holland oats: yo d:o! peeps!
	9:32am Jeff Golick: Fascinating, @DJpeterDE. Good insight. Heyo, @holland oats!
	9:34am fred: I heard at work that yet another way the pandemic hits musicians is that the lack of big event means they're not getting royalty money from music played at non-music event. It wasn't much for most, but the cuts do add up
	🥁 9:37am redkayak: @jeff - Lovely set. You're earning your keep today sir :)
	9:38am Jeff Golick: It's so grim, @fred. @redkayak: kind of you to say; glad you're here for it.
	9:42am fred: On the positive side, shows are starting to come back here (though maybe not for long). I bought 53 tickets for the coming year, I'll see how many actually happen (I need to support them, otherwise they won't be around when the pandemic is gone)
	9:43am Doug Schulkind: Lovely soundings!
	9:44am Jeff Golick: @Doug Schulkind! A lovely sighting!
	🥁 9:48am Listener Gregory: Never heard of Cymerman, but I'm hearing him now!
	9:51am Jeff Golick: Cymerman is generally a clarinet player, but ranges widely. He has a project called Blood Mist that is death metal-adjacent, I think. He also has a very good podcast featuring interviews with current musicians: www.5049records.com...
	9:52am DJpeterDE: The wife says this is a Morricone spaghetti western about space whales
	9:55am fred: Jazz-death-metal? Why didn't this get played on the station!
	9:55am Jeff Golick: I'd watch that.
	9:56am holland oats: starring lemmy
	9:57am Jeff Golick: Cymerman has a fascinating story: observer.com...
	9:59am Jeff Golick: @fred: searched "bloodmist" in the archives, and it appears Kurt G. and Sam S. have played it, c. 2016!
	10:00am listener james from westwood: This Cluster is a treat.
	🥁 10:04am WR: Cluster has plenty of attitude. "Cluster shows routinely lasted six hours or more, luring both the band and the audience into a state of intoxication, no doubt acutely enhanced by the intake of certain substances. The buzzwords of the moment were: psychedelic, magical, ritualistic, corresponding more or less to the Dionysian hedonism which pervades certain styles of contemporary music culture today. It is worth noting this context as useful background when listening to the live recordings presented here."
	10:20am Uncle Michael: May I say something now?
	10:27am Jeff Golick: @UM! Always!
	🥁 10:30am Doug Schulkind: Hoping for a Peacock survival.
	🥁 10:33am duke: Howdy Jeff and non-Jeffs
	10:35am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @duke! Same, @Doug.
	🥁 10:39am Listener Gregory: I heard a rumor that Annette is still alive.
	10:41am Jeff Golick: This reminds me of a hip-hop sample.
	10:41am Storkie McStorkFace: Hi-LillyHi-Lo! A snappy Sunday salute to all.
	10:42am Jeff Golick: @Storkaroonie!
	10:43am Jeff Golick: Oh, it's that Eugene MacDaniels riff that ATCQ used, that's what I'm thinking of.
	🥁 10:44am hyde: This Annette Peacock has apparently been sampled on a slew of hip hop tracks
	10:46am Storkie McStorkFarce: This Jacqueline Humbert/David Rosenboom is just loverly! Don't know them.
	10:47am Jeff Golick: It's a remarkable record. Kind of a dark piece overall.
	10:47am Storkie McStorkFarce: She reminds me a tiny bit of Elly Stone.
	10:50am Dean: Humbert was Robert Ashley's leading lady for a number of his operas. Rosenboom has been at it a long time with synthesizers and other electronics. He even worked with Anthony Braxton.
	10:50am Jeff Golick: Hi there, @Dean. Thanks for that.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: There's so much beautiful music out there I can hardly take it.
	10:58am fred: @Jeff: How is the college covid situation going? Good so far, hopefully
	11:00am Jeff Golick: Thanks for asking, @fred. So far, so good. My son's school seems to be managing well, and the kids are generally being smart. The school has less than 3,000 kids, and a lot of space, and a president who is an epidemiologist, so they do have the ingredients for success.
	🥁 11:01am Listener Gregory: The closing of SUNY Oneonta is ominous. The county had very low infections before, and then it went up to nearly 400 related to the campus.
	11:03am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that wasn't good news at all.
	🥁 11:05am Doug Schulkind: All those Kip Hanrahan releases on American Clavé was a wonderful time. The sound is so immediately recognizable and sui generis.
	11:06am Jeff Golick: I love them, Doug, but could never figure out who was playing what on which tracks...
	🥁 11:08am Listener Gregory: Many of those albums had a good sprinkling of Don Pullen or David Murray on them.
	11:08am Storkie McStorkFarce: Ahh, that rings a bell, Dean! Thanks!
	🥁 11:09am Listener Gregory: Re: that Helen Merrill record... I am learning something today. That one totally passed me by.
	🥁 11:10am Brian in UK: Quick hello.
	🥁 11:10am DJpeterDE: re: Hanrahan, co-sign Doug and co-sign Jeff
	🥁 11:11am Doug Schulkind: Nice but terribly designed American Clavé website here: www.americanclave.com...
	🥁 11:11am Brian in UK: Trondheim Jazz Orc, must be cool jazz.
	11:12am Jeff Golick: Nice, @Brian in UK. Wasting no time, I see.
	11:15am listener james from westwood: Jazz Orcs would've turned the tide at the Battle of Helm's Deep.
	11:16am Jeff Golick: Jazz Orcs of a different kind: www.vice.com...
	🥁 11:16am Listener Gregory: @listener james, I'm not so sure. I think they might have gotten caught up in an argument about whether the others were "really" jazz orcs, or just sell-outs who were ruining jazz orcdom. Then they would have killed one another.
	11:18am fred: Chile is a strange place. People from there can have incompatible views depending on their background. Well, maybe not so strange, we're definitely getting there
	🥁 11:20am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, not entirely comfortable with the idea of people playing random sounds loudly and badly being called "free jazz." Sounds like an argument from 1964.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: Yeah, it's goofy that way, @LG. Hearts in the right place, though.
	11:27am Dean: This List Elegy reminds me of Copland's Quiet City.
	🥁 11:28am Brian in UK: Talking of Chile, Victor Jara kind of tribute album. www.nme.com...
	🥁 11:29am WR: It was interesting vocal set. I was grocering so couldn't look at the tracks as they went by. Will be reviewing from the archive.
	🥁 11:29am Listener Gregory: I haven't wanted to bring this up before, but I feel I have to ask: Does one polish a velvet rope??
	🥁 11:30am Brian in UK: @LG would standing up or sitting down when playing make a difference.
	🥁 11:31am Listener Gregory: @Brian in UK, sorry... a difference to what? My initial guess is yes.
	🥁 11:32am Brian in UK: Your comment at 11:20
	11:32am fred: @LG: Then again, pols shouting racist calls loudly and badly, calling it "freedom" isn't great either. Sounds like an argument from the late 1930's
	11:33am coelacanth∅: good morning Jeff, OUTies
	🥁 11:33am Brian in UK: fred I thought that the 1930s were on time if not early.
	🥁 11:34am Listener Gregory: @Brian & Fred, yes, I agree with what the musicians are doing. I just wouldn't call it "free jazz." Of course, if you sit down when playing jazz, you are not a true musician... unless we discover that they used to do it that way in New Orleans.
	🥁 11:36am Brian in UK: Right I am off back to the land of the jibber.
	11:37am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the jabber, @Brian! And greetings, @coelacanth∅!
	11:42am fred: @LG: I saw Joe McPhee sit down many times, he wasn't technically playing, but in a sense he was, pushing the others to step up. He's such a great leader
	🥁 11:46am Listener Gregory: I have never before thought of the sitting/standing issue before, but I will dogmatically choose one or the other as soon as I can figure out which side I should be on.
	11:46am Jeff Golick: >>>>>>STORK!>>>>>>: wfmu.org...
	🥁 11:46am Listener Gregory: That said, nothing will get me to criticize Joe McPhee.
	🥁 11:48am Doug Schulkind: Grossman resides in a glaring blindspot of mine. To no fault of his, of course.
	11:48am Dean: Fred Lonberg-Holm almost always sits.
	11:48am Jeff Golick: Cellists in general, too.
	11:49am Dean: Woody Allen, for example.
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: Jazz police should focus on deeper matters, such as whether the musicians part their hair on the left or right. I think we all know what the correct answer is there!
	🥁 11:50am Listener Gregory: I believe Art Blakey was known to sit down, later in his career. This is more complex than I originally realized.
	11:51am Jeff Golick: @Dean: I watched the beginning of Broadway Danny Rose recently. Just for a taste. It's a good looking movie.
	11:51am fred: I does seem awkward to call out musicians for sitting on the drummer stream
	11:51am Dean: But the cello bit is in Take the Money and Run, right? I haven't seen BDR.
	11:52am Jeff Golick: Yeah, that's right, @Dean. (At least if memory servies.)
	11:52am fred: It
	🥁 11:53am DJpeterDE: Woody Allen & jazz is a rabbit hole, but I confirm that the cello marching band bit is in TTMAR (which is what I am calling that movie now)
	🥁 11:53am DJpeterDE: Astor Piazzolla supposedly invented a harness so he could play the bandoneon while standing because "only women play sitting down"
	11:54am Dean: I saw TTMAR in the theater, maybe a couple years after its release. In other words, a long time ago.
	11:54am Jeff Golick: Ooof. Don't cry for me, Astor Piazzolla.
	11:54am spodiodi: i bet his toilet seat is a mess
	🥁 11:55am Listener Gregory: There used to be a riddle, "What do men do standing up that women do sitting down and dogs do on three legs?" but it doesn't work any more.
	11:55am Jeff Golick: Ha! @spodiodi! What an entrance.
	🥁 11:56am Listener Gregory: (Answer was: shake hands.)
	11:56am spodiodi: sorry. good morning, Jeff, all! was trying to be respectfully quiet during the end of your show, but i couldn't resist. :)
	🥁 11:57am WR: This Matt Moran mattmoranmusic.bandcamp.com...
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Thanks, Jeff!
	11:58am coelacanth∅: astor piazzola, aside from being sexist, must be insecure about his masculinity
	11:59am Storkie McStorkFarce: Such a nice show! I came, I heard, I plotzed! CU next time, JG!
	🥁 11:59am Listener Gregory: Excellent show, Jeff. Think twice before polishing your velvet, though. I think maybe just vacuum it off.
	11:59am Storkie McStorkFarce: Stork Club playlist here: wfmu.org...
	11:59am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:59am coelacanth∅: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 12:00pm DJpeterDE: @spodiodi hahahahaha
	🥁 12:00pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 12:01pm DJpeterDE: @WR thanks for the link
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: @spodiodi: respectfully quiet? Don't bother! Fire at will. Thanks for being here, and big thanks to: @ljfw, @coel, @Storkie, @LG, @DJpeterDE, @chresti, @WR (yes, that's the one!), and everybody out there.
	🥁 12:05pm WR: Thank you Jeff!

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