WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from July 15, 2022

Listener comments!
	11:59am Sylvia: Hello again!
	12:01pm Julie: Hi!
	12:02pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Julie and all other listeners!
	12:02pm chris in the redwoods: Hi, Julie. Hey, souls.
	12:03pm Julie: hey sylvia, andrew and Chris!
	12:03pm Brian in UK: Hello Julie. Oh those eyes & thousand yard stare.
	12:03pm Julie: hiya Brian!
	12:05pm Alex In Illinois: Hello. I've been listening but not commenting today. Listening while working
	12:05pm Julie: hiya Alex, thanks for letting us know you're out there!
	12:06pm David (in London): Wotcha Julie, the Guv'nor! Afternoon assorted movers and groovers.
	12:06pm TDK60: Julie! I'm glad to be here for your fill-in.
	12:06pm Julie: heya David! Hiya TDK!
	12:09pm rw: Julie! Thanks for taking the wheel. Fill-in-Friday!
	12:09pm Julie: hiya rw!
	12:12pm egould: This Hitchcock guy is good at rhyming.
	12:13pm Julie: that he is, egould!
	12:16pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Extra Julie! Yay!
	12:16pm Julie: Howdy SMS!
	12:18pm adamdoesit: Hi Julie and hinky dinky batfolk! DiL and other Tour watchers, did anyone happen to see Uncle Michael on the Alpe d'Huez? I didn't, but I halfway thought I might.
	12:18pm Robm: Hi fellow dark night listeners
	12:18pm Julie: hiya adamdoesit, hey robm!
	12:20pm David (in London): Adam, I confess I didn't, but it was a little hectic... Syliva, S&M&S, Andrew, Chris, Brian, Alex, TDK, rw, egould, Robm, salutations good people.
	12:20pm egould: Starting a weeklong vacation this afternoon. No better way to kick it off than with an extra dose of Dark Night of the Soul. Thanks Julie!
	12:21pm Julie: hooray for vacation! Glad you're enjoying it egould!
	12:22pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Hi, David!
	12:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and batriots! 🦇
	12:23pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	12:24pm doctorjazz: Hi Julie!
	12:24pm TDK60: Hiya David-in-L.
	12:24pm Julie: hiya doctorjazz!
	12:25pm chris in the redwoods: ‘Ello, David.
	12:26pm David (in London): The doctor of jazz is open for consultations.
	12:29pm Yvang: Hi Julie and darkonauts! Dark Afternoon of the Soul!
	12:30pm Julie: heya Yvang!
	12:36pm egould: Birdy num num!
	12:36pm David (in London): Yvang, I salute you.
	12:42pm miles of middle texas: Hey Julie! And y'all. Friday!
	12:43pm Julie: hiya Miles!
	12:43pm Julie: is it still 110 down there?
	12:44pm David (in London): Look busy everyone, Bowie's here.
	12:45pm miles of middle texas: Yes. It's kind of the elephant in the room. Sitting on you. ..and I just crawled out of an attic. So nice ,only 100°
	12:46pm Brian in UK: Lodger does the job.
	12:48pm Julie: MBV says more oppressive sounds less oppressive heat
	12:49pm Yvang: Hey salut David in London!
	12:50pm still b/p: Ear conditioning.
	12:50pm Julie: hiya still!
	12:56pm Sylvia: eating cantaloupe, it's great with the heat
	12:59pm Julie: is it super hot there too? I know it was in Portugal & Spain, they had fires even!
	1:00pm ChukAmok: Cantaloupe is dope, but Honeydew is the money melon.
	1:00pm Sylvia: yes it is! it's currently 86 F at 7pm, a little cooler than yesterday actually. We're gonna reach 106 F on Monday...
	1:00pm Julie: hey chukamok! @Sylvia ewww I hate summer so much
	1:01pm still b/p: I was at a lakeside camp compound today -- former summer camp, now a wedding venue. I was there just to deliver something and scoot after a few minutes. Sitting at that piney shore all day, taking occasional swim, and listening to FMU would be a potent summer idyll. PSI. Tires need theirs for smooth riding, and I need mine.
	1:02pm ChukAmok: Hi Julie, et bon soir Sylvia.
	1:02pm Julie: PSI?
	1:03pm Julie: heh that looks like Ian on the cover of Garlands doesn't it
	1:05pm Sylvia: bonsoir ChukAmok ! Julie, it does!
	1:05pm still b/p: Potent Summer Idylls.
	1:07pm Julie: oh...lol duh, sorry!
	1:08pm still b/p: vs. Pounds per Square Inch.. Suitable levels vital in both cases.
	1:09pm Sylvia: damn, each time you play Eliza R, I'm like ohh what's this, it's nice, it never fails :) I need to buy her work!
	1:10pm Julie: you do! and she just lost her cat it'd be a nice pickmeup
	1:11pm Sylvia: oh no, kitty heaven
	1:18pm Julie: pancake...the cat's name was PANCAKE
	1:20pm Dean: Joy Division were exemplars of producer Martin Hannett's "Manchester Sound."
	1:22pm Julie: hiya Dean did I forget to say hi? HI DEAN! ahh yes the manchester sound
	1:23pm Sylvia: fluffy cat in heaven <3 ...are you gonna play Joy Division's covers, as well? (hint, hint)
	1:23pm Dean: Hi!
	1:23pm Julie: actually no! But I do have another fab cover coming up later...
	1:24pm Sylvia: oooh, I'm intrigued :D Hello Dean!
	1:25pm Dean: Hi, Sylvia. (My wife's name is Sylvia, and today is our 22nd anniversary.)
	1:25pm Julie: aww happy anniversary Dean & Sylvia!
	1:25pm Dean: Thank you!
	1:26pm Julie: same age as my bird!
	1:27pm Dean: There must be something to these convergences of age and date. But I never expected I'd associate Ian Curtis with my marriage.
	1:30pm egould: This is definitely “post punk”. I think JD gets referred to as goth not based on the music, but on depressed/suicidal Ian Curtiss.
	1:31pm Julie: I don't really know how to define postpunk, is it a real sound or based more on era?
	1:32pm Julie: like I'd call In Isolation post punk, but they are from now so VERY post punk
	1:33pm Julie: and goth, 80s goth anyway, for sure comes out of that.
	1:34pm Dean: Some bands once upon a time commonly associated with (mid-to-late-'70s) punk really don't sound punk at all. Take Television. They were working pre-punk, their career otherwise coincided with punk, and yet had they appeared later we would likely regard them as post-punk.
	1:34pm Sylvia: happy anniversary D&S!
	1:35pm Dean: Thank you S!
	1:35pm Julie: people often categorize the Damned as goth, but that was because of their luck they were more punk (or post punk?) though they do have some gothy sounding moments
	1:36pm egould: Post punk to me is more ‘angular’ sounding; modern and anti-rock. Yet not new wave. Punk was a throwback to early rocknroll.
	1:36pm Julie: their LOOK not their luck...sheesh
	1:36pm Julie: yes punk was very rock and roll!
	1:37pm egould: Post punk was re-building rock music, stripped of he excesses of 70’s arena rock.
	1:38pm Dean: Arguably, one of the early artists assuming a goth look was Patricia Morrison (also Ronaine), aka Pat Bag of The Bags. She went on to join Sisters of Mercy, which sealed the deal, I suppose. And now she is married to Dave Vanian, vocalist for The Damned. Pat used to work the cosmetics counter at a department store in Whittier. We'd hang out there and she'd visit us in a nearby record store where we worked. Sweet lady.
	1:39pm Dean: The Damned's first album is quintessential punk.
	1:41pm Julie: Patricia's look is wonderful. Also Siouxsie was looking like that when hanging around with the Pistols
	1:42pm Dean: Er, Rainone, not Ronaine, which sounds like a hair treatment product. Right, the eyeliner! But Dave Vanian sported that, too, on the cover of DAMNED DAMNED DAMNED.
	1:43pm Julie: not just liner the whole black patch all the way to the eyebrow
	1:44pm David (in London): You don't happen to have anything live from the High Wycombe gig in the bag do you Julie..?
	1:44pm Julie: I am not sure I do, but this is the last one for today. I will look though for next week!
	1:45pm TDK60: One thing that turned me off was Joy Division's early flirtation with fascist imagery. / Yeah, I thought Siouxsie was an early Goth. Tho, I know little gothic history. But music labels? Sometimes very useful, other times too restricting. Like Gang of Four-- new wave or punk? Both, it seems.
	1:46pm chris in the redwoods: That was great!
	1:48pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: What a nice thing to say, Julie! Thank you!
	1:49pm Dean: Gang of Four's first album ushered in post-punk for me. Seminal goth bands were Christian Death and Kommunity FK, both from the LA area.
	1:50pm Yvang: It's a dark joke!
	1:50pm adamdoesit: RANDALL break!
	1:51pm Julie: Randall is the whistler, Cannibal is the SCREECHER
	1:52pm David (in London): Thought now sadly neglected, Gloria Mundi were right in the middle of the Punk, Post-Punk, Goth Venn Diagram intersection, and early. Awesome band still.
	1:53pm adamdoesit: I beg your pardon, Cannibal! Beak break either way.
	1:54pm Julie: this is a very dark song for EJ/Bernie and it continues to mystify me
	1:55pm Dean: Oh, yeah, Gloria Mundi. I had their first album, but it was a casualty of the Great Purge in the '80s.
	1:55pm egould: 45 Grave
	1:55pm David (in London): Dean, for you then: www.youtube.com...
	1:55pm Dean: Hell, yes, 45 Grave.
	1:56pm Julie: where do Cocteau Twins fit?
	1:56pm David (in London): Right, heading out for some evening air now. Thanks Guv'nor. Toodles groovers, have a good weekend.
	1:56pm Dean: Thank you for that, David (in London)!
	1:57pm Julie: see ya David, have a great night!
	1:59pm Dean: Doctors of Madness were sort of goth/prog hybrid.
	2:00pm chris in the redwoods: Night, David.
	2:01pm Julie: oooh Dean that sounds good, I'll have to check them out
	2:03pm Julie: the bongos!
	2:04pm Dean: They were underrated, for sure. A bit like Hawkwind, too.
	2:09pm Stanley: I tried warching some teevee. Teevee is rubbish. Hello and thank god I'm here
	2:10pm Julie: hiya Stanley!
	2:10pm Dean: This early Doctors of Madness appearance is pretty nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCvi0C48mY 1975, imagine that.
	2:13pm TDK60: Ho Stanley.
	2:14pm Stanley: Hi TDK. I'm emerging from the covid abyss.
	2:16pm Julie: emerging is good!
	2:18pm Stanley: Thanks Julie. I'm still a bit wobbly but the horrendous throat has gone.
	2:19pm chris in the redwoods: Hey, Stanley. Similarly recovered from the latest version of the plague. The most awful yet, I found it to be.
	2:19pm TDK60: Stanely Glad you're over it, didn't know ya had it. My roommate just came out of hiding after getting it. / Julie, I just sang a Donovan tune last night at an open mic.
	2:19pm Julie: ooooh which one?
	2:22pm Stanley: chris - sorry to hear that. I thought it was supposed to get easier. TDK - over the last few days, I didn't have much enthusiasm for chat, or anything else for that matter.
	2:24pm TDK60: Oh, Julie, 'twas "Epistle To Derroll" - from his "Gift from A Flower to a Garden" album, '67. The album cover where Donovan looks like a real punk on the cover. (smile)
	2:24pm Sylvia: take it easy Chris and Stanley, covid is really hard on the body, rest as much as you need, don't push it
	2:25pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Sylvia! ❤️
	2:25pm Sylvia: you're welcome, Chris <3
	2:27pm Julie: yes that is true, people who push too soon are more likely to end up with long covid! you have to get back into life REALLY slowly
	2:27pm Julie: the birds are out of control today sorry guys, they don't usually ALL yell at once
	2:31pm Stanley: thanks Syvia and Julie. Light duties, as they say.
	2:34pm chris in the redwoods: Yeah, no worries here. Keeping it chill. I never mind the birdie voices, Julie. Maybe because I’ve raised kids? Hehe.
	2:41pm Stanley: Striped shirt and trousers is an odd look.
	2:42pm Mxter Baba: greetings, Julie and folx, sounding fantastically strange in here!
	2:43pm Julie: hiya Mxter Baba!
	2:44pm Julie: Fantastically strange is a nice phrase, thank you!
	2:45pm Dean: Can't read "Test Tube Baby" without recalling comedian Robin Harris' epithet for nitwits.
	2:45pm Mxter Baba: my pleasure! 😸
	2:45pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Aw, thank you, Julie!!
	2:47pm Julie: is that a burger king crown?
	2:48pm Sylvia: <3 nah, it's a French King's Cake crown, in that case a Queen's Cake crown
	2:48pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Ha! I think it's a French thing. Epiphany maybe? It comes with the cake!
	2:49pm Julie: is it a nice cake? May I have some?
	2:49pm Sylvia: I was a at a party, probably the last one I went to, in 2019...
	2:49pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: And voila!
	2:49pm TDK60: What an eerie tune - Parties. Thanks for the fill-in Julie. Have to step out early.
	2:50pm Brian in UK: Stanley y chris, Hope the bug departs soon.
	2:50pm Julie: see ya TDK, thanks for hanging out!
	2:50pm Mxter Baba: wonderful, Sylvia! mmm, cake
	2:51pm Sylvia: there's two sorts of French King's Cake, Northern and Southern. I like them both! Northern is puff pastry with almond meal+egg+sugar filling, Southern is a sweet brioche with candied fruits on top
	2:52pm Julie: is this a recording from the party?
	2:52pm Sylvia: no, just the pic
	2:53pm Sylvia: oh, are we there yet?
	2:53pm Mxter Baba: omx both cakes sound delishhhh
	2:54pm Sylvia: they are, Mxter Baba, only available post Christmas until late January
	2:54pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: The spoken word at the end we recorded here, Julie. Not at a party. What's a party, by the way?
	2:56pm Yvang: Thank you!!!
	2:56pm Midge: A very enjoyable Dark Afternoon of the Soul. Thanks Julie!
	2:56pm Dean: Northern sounds like gâteau St. Honoré, maybe my favorite dessert of all. I can't forget the sublime one served at City, the now long-gone flagship restaurant on La Brea of Mary Sue Milliken and Susan Feniger. Later, at another of their restaurants, Susan retreated to her office to make a copy of their recipe for me. Too scared to try it.
	2:56pm Julie: hi Midge, and thank you! thanks everyone!
	2:57pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Brian. Yessir. Last week was ugly, though.
	🦇 2:58pm Michael 98145: Oh, shoot!! I forgot Julie was on today.. Oh, well. Off to archive-land -
	2:58pm Julie: whoops sorry Michael!
	🦇 2:59pm Michael 98145: Hope all is better, Julie
	3:01pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Julie!
	3:03pm Brian in UK: Julie, you are wearing Uncle Michael's crown unceasingly.

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from July 15, 2022

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Suzi Quatro	Strict Machine "Strict Machine" by "Suzi Quatro"	In The Spotlight	Cherry Red	2011			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
T. Rex	Monolith "Monolith" by "T. Rex"	Electric Warrior	Reprise Records	1971			0:03:49 (Pop-up)
Robyn Hitchcock	The Rain "The Rain" by "Robyn Hitchcock"	Groovy Decoy	Midnight Music	1985			0:07:37 (Pop-up)
A Place Both Wonderful and Strange	ILUAF	Coverups	A Place Both Wonderful and Strange	2018			0:11:52 (Pop-up)
2DCAT	Come Back To Me "Come Back To Me" by "2DCAT"	Come Back To Me (single)	2DCAT	2021			0:15:12 (Pop-up)
Gary Numan	God Only Knows "God Only Knows" by "Gary Numan"	The Fury	Numa	1985			0:19:17 (Pop-up)
Tori Amos	Space Dog "Space Dog" by "Tori Amos"	Under the Pink	Atlantic	1993			0:24:26 (Pop-up)
Psyche Corporation	Matilda Mother	Interstitium	Psyche Corporation	2020			0:29:37 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: David Ari Leon	Shine On You Crazy Diamond (instrumental)						0:32:41 (Pop-up)
In Isolation	She's In Parties "She's In Parties" by "In Isolation"	Albums \| Singles \| Soundtracks - an Anthology 2007-2022	Aye Aye Aye Records	2022		*	0:39:31 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	Boys Keep Swinging (Tony Visconti 2017 Mix)	Lodger (Tony Visconti Mix)	Parlophone	2017			0:42:55 (Pop-up)
My Bloody Valentine	Only Tomorrow	mbv	MBV Records	2013			0:46:08 (Pop-up)
Mo Dotti	All Dressed Up In Dreams	Guided Imagery EP	Mo Dotti	2022			0:52:29 (Pop-up)
I Speak Machine	Cars "Cars" by "I Speak Machine"	Black Rabbits	I Speak Machine	2020			0:55:39 (Pop-up)
Cocteau Twins	Shallow Then Halo "Shallow Then Halo" by "Cocteau Twins"	Garlands	4AD	1982			0:59:43 (Pop-up)
Eliza RIckman	Bright Star "Bright Star" by "Eliza RIckman"	Footnotes for the Spring	Charmingly Befuddled Music	2015			1:05:20 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Guitar Tribute Players	Space Oddity						1:09:02 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	Warsaw "Warsaw" by "Joy Division"	An Ideal for Living EP	Enigma Records	1978			1:16:21 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	New Dawn Fades "New Dawn Fades" by "Joy Division"	Unknown Pleasures	Factory	1979			1:18:48 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	She's Lost Control "She's Lost Control" by "Joy Division"	The Complete BBC Recordings	Strange Fruit/BBC Music	2000			1:23:27 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	Love Will Tear Us Apart	The Complete BBC Recordings	Strange Fruit/BBC Music	2000			1:27:29 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	A Means To An End "A Means To An End" by "Joy Division"	Closer	Factory	1980			1:30:53 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	Heart and Soul "Heart and Soul" by "Joy Division"	Closer	Factory	1980			1:34:58 (Pop-up)
Joy Division	Transmission (live) "Transmission (live)" by "Joy Division"	Still (Collector's Edition)	Factory	1981	Recorded at High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980		1:40:39 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The String Quartet	Love Will Tear Us Apart (instrumental)						1:44:26 (Pop-up)
Elton John	Hymn 2000 "Hymn 2000" by "Elton John"	Empty Sky	DJM Records	1969			1:49:24 (Pop-up)
Cranes	Beautiful Sadness "Beautiful Sadness" by "Cranes"	Wings of Joy	Dedicated	1991			1:53:46 (Pop-up)
Nico	Femme Fatale (live) "Femme Fatale (live)" by "Nico"	Nico in Tokyo	Castle Communications	1987			1:57:56 (Pop-up)
Mazzy Star	She Hangs Brightly "She Hangs Brightly" by "Mazzy Star"	She Hangs Brightly	Rough Trade	1990			2:01:45 (Pop-up)
Donovan	The Music Makers "The Music Makers" by "Donovan"	Cosmic Wheels	Epic	1972			2:08:12 (Pop-up)
Blushing	How It Ends "How It Ends" by "Blushing"	Possessions	Kanine Records	2022			2:12:31 (Pop-up)
Melody's Echo Chamber	A Slow Dawning Of Peace	Emotional Eternal	Domino	2022			2:15:40 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Bananarama	Cruel Summer (instrumental)						2:19:00 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Chapter 24 (mono) "Chapter 24 (mono)" by "Pink Floyd"	Piper At The Gates of Dawn	Columbia	1967			2:23:45 (Pop-up)
Danielle Dax	Fizzing Human Bomb "Fizzing Human Bomb" by "Danielle Dax"	Inky Bloaters	Awesome Records	1987			2:27:29 (Pop-up)
Kate Bush	Pull Out The Pin "Pull Out The Pin" by "Kate Bush"	The Dreaming	EMI	1982			2:31:15 (Pop-up)
The Doors	Love Me Two Times "Love Me Two Times" by "The Doors"	Strange Days	Elektra	1967			2:36:37 (Pop-up)
Kristeen Young	The Monster in the Moon	The Beauty Shop	Test Tube Baby	2022		*	2:39:47 (Pop-up)
Tremosphere	All Tomorrow's Parties	All Tomorrow's Parties (single)	Slugg Records	2020			2:43:36 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"						2:51:15 (Pop-up)
Azar Swan	Cruel Summer "Cruel Summer" by "Azar Swan"	Dance Before The War	Azar Swan	2013	bonus track		2:54:38 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	11:59am Sylvia: Hello again!
	12:01pm Julie: Hi!
	12:02pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Julie and all other listeners!
	12:02pm chris in the redwoods: Hi, Julie. Hey, souls.
	12:03pm Julie: hey sylvia, andrew and Chris!
	12:03pm Brian in UK: Hello Julie. Oh those eyes & thousand yard stare.
	12:03pm Julie: hiya Brian!
	12:05pm Alex In Illinois: Hello. I've been listening but not commenting today. Listening while working
	12:05pm Julie: hiya Alex, thanks for letting us know you're out there!
	12:06pm David (in London): Wotcha Julie, the Guv'nor! Afternoon assorted movers and groovers.
	12:06pm TDK60: Julie! I'm glad to be here for your fill-in.
	12:06pm Julie: heya David! Hiya TDK!
	12:09pm rw: Julie! Thanks for taking the wheel. Fill-in-Friday!
	12:09pm Julie: hiya rw!
	12:12pm egould: This Hitchcock guy is good at rhyming.
	12:13pm Julie: that he is, egould!
	12:16pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Extra Julie! Yay!
	12:16pm Julie: Howdy SMS!
	12:18pm adamdoesit: Hi Julie and hinky dinky batfolk! DiL and other Tour watchers, did anyone happen to see Uncle Michael on the Alpe d'Huez? I didn't, but I halfway thought I might.
	12:18pm Robm: Hi fellow dark night listeners
	12:18pm Julie: hiya adamdoesit, hey robm!
	12:20pm David (in London): Adam, I confess I didn't, but it was a little hectic... Syliva, S&M&S, Andrew, Chris, Brian, Alex, TDK, rw, egould, Robm, salutations good people.
	12:20pm egould: Starting a weeklong vacation this afternoon. No better way to kick it off than with an extra dose of Dark Night of the Soul. Thanks Julie!
	12:21pm Julie: hooray for vacation! Glad you're enjoying it egould!
	12:22pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Hi, David!
	12:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and batriots! 🦇
	12:23pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	12:24pm doctorjazz: Hi Julie!
	12:24pm TDK60: Hiya David-in-L.
	12:24pm Julie: hiya doctorjazz!
	12:25pm chris in the redwoods: ‘Ello, David.
	12:26pm David (in London): The doctor of jazz is open for consultations.
	12:29pm Yvang: Hi Julie and darkonauts! Dark Afternoon of the Soul!
	12:30pm Julie: heya Yvang!
	12:36pm egould: Birdy num num!
	12:36pm David (in London): Yvang, I salute you.
	12:42pm miles of middle texas: Hey Julie! And y'all. Friday!
	12:43pm Julie: hiya Miles!
	12:43pm Julie: is it still 110 down there?
	12:44pm David (in London): Look busy everyone, Bowie's here.
	12:45pm miles of middle texas: Yes. It's kind of the elephant in the room. Sitting on you. ..and I just crawled out of an attic. So nice ,only 100°
	12:46pm Brian in UK: Lodger does the job.
	12:48pm Julie: MBV says more oppressive sounds less oppressive heat
	12:49pm Yvang: Hey salut David in London!
	12:50pm still b/p: Ear conditioning.
	12:50pm Julie: hiya still!
	12:56pm Sylvia: eating cantaloupe, it's great with the heat
	12:59pm Julie: is it super hot there too? I know it was in Portugal & Spain, they had fires even!
	1:00pm ChukAmok: Cantaloupe is dope, but Honeydew is the money melon.
	1:00pm Sylvia: yes it is! it's currently 86 F at 7pm, a little cooler than yesterday actually. We're gonna reach 106 F on Monday...
	1:00pm Julie: hey chukamok! @Sylvia ewww I hate summer so much
	1:01pm still b/p: I was at a lakeside camp compound today -- former summer camp, now a wedding venue. I was there just to deliver something and scoot after a few minutes. Sitting at that piney shore all day, taking occasional swim, and listening to FMU would be a potent summer idyll. PSI. Tires need theirs for smooth riding, and I need mine.
	1:02pm ChukAmok: Hi Julie, et bon soir Sylvia.
	1:02pm Julie: PSI?
	1:03pm Julie: heh that looks like Ian on the cover of Garlands doesn't it
	1:05pm Sylvia: bonsoir ChukAmok ! Julie, it does!
	1:05pm still b/p: Potent Summer Idylls.
	1:07pm Julie: oh...lol duh, sorry!
	1:08pm still b/p: vs. Pounds per Square Inch.. Suitable levels vital in both cases.
	1:09pm Sylvia: damn, each time you play Eliza R, I'm like ohh what's this, it's nice, it never fails :) I need to buy her work!
	1:10pm Julie: you do! and she just lost her cat it'd be a nice pickmeup
	1:11pm Sylvia: oh no, kitty heaven
	1:18pm Julie: pancake...the cat's name was PANCAKE
	1:20pm Dean: Joy Division were exemplars of producer Martin Hannett's "Manchester Sound."
	1:22pm Julie: hiya Dean did I forget to say hi? HI DEAN! ahh yes the manchester sound
	1:23pm Sylvia: fluffy cat in heaven <3 ...are you gonna play Joy Division's covers, as well? (hint, hint)
	1:23pm Dean: Hi!
	1:23pm Julie: actually no! But I do have another fab cover coming up later...
	1:24pm Sylvia: oooh, I'm intrigued :D Hello Dean!
	1:25pm Dean: Hi, Sylvia. (My wife's name is Sylvia, and today is our 22nd anniversary.)
	1:25pm Julie: aww happy anniversary Dean & Sylvia!
	1:25pm Dean: Thank you!
	1:26pm Julie: same age as my bird!
	1:27pm Dean: There must be something to these convergences of age and date. But I never expected I'd associate Ian Curtis with my marriage.
	1:30pm egould: This is definitely “post punk”. I think JD gets referred to as goth not based on the music, but on depressed/suicidal Ian Curtiss.
	1:31pm Julie: I don't really know how to define postpunk, is it a real sound or based more on era?
	1:32pm Julie: like I'd call In Isolation post punk, but they are from now so VERY post punk
	1:33pm Julie: and goth, 80s goth anyway, for sure comes out of that.
	1:34pm Dean: Some bands once upon a time commonly associated with (mid-to-late-'70s) punk really don't sound punk at all. Take Television. They were working pre-punk, their career otherwise coincided with punk, and yet had they appeared later we would likely regard them as post-punk.
	1:34pm Sylvia: happy anniversary D&S!
	1:35pm Dean: Thank you S!
	1:35pm Julie: people often categorize the Damned as goth, but that was because of their luck they were more punk (or post punk?) though they do have some gothy sounding moments
	1:36pm egould: Post punk to me is more ‘angular’ sounding; modern and anti-rock. Yet not new wave. Punk was a throwback to early rocknroll.
	1:36pm Julie: their LOOK not their luck...sheesh
	1:36pm Julie: yes punk was very rock and roll!
	1:37pm egould: Post punk was re-building rock music, stripped of he excesses of 70’s arena rock.
	1:38pm Dean: Arguably, one of the early artists assuming a goth look was Patricia Morrison (also Ronaine), aka Pat Bag of The Bags. She went on to join Sisters of Mercy, which sealed the deal, I suppose. And now she is married to Dave Vanian, vocalist for The Damned. Pat used to work the cosmetics counter at a department store in Whittier. We'd hang out there and she'd visit us in a nearby record store where we worked. Sweet lady.
	1:39pm Dean: The Damned's first album is quintessential punk.
	1:41pm Julie: Patricia's look is wonderful. Also Siouxsie was looking like that when hanging around with the Pistols
	1:42pm Dean: Er, Rainone, not Ronaine, which sounds like a hair treatment product. Right, the eyeliner! But Dave Vanian sported that, too, on the cover of DAMNED DAMNED DAMNED.
	1:43pm Julie: not just liner the whole black patch all the way to the eyebrow
	1:44pm David (in London): You don't happen to have anything live from the High Wycombe gig in the bag do you Julie..?
	1:44pm Julie: I am not sure I do, but this is the last one for today. I will look though for next week!
	1:45pm TDK60: One thing that turned me off was Joy Division's early flirtation with fascist imagery. / Yeah, I thought Siouxsie was an early Goth. Tho, I know little gothic history. But music labels? Sometimes very useful, other times too restricting. Like Gang of Four-- new wave or punk? Both, it seems.
	1:46pm chris in the redwoods: That was great!
	1:48pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: What a nice thing to say, Julie! Thank you!
	1:49pm Dean: Gang of Four's first album ushered in post-punk for me. Seminal goth bands were Christian Death and Kommunity FK, both from the LA area.
	1:50pm Yvang: It's a dark joke!
	1:50pm adamdoesit: RANDALL break!
	1:51pm Julie: Randall is the whistler, Cannibal is the SCREECHER
	1:52pm David (in London): Thought now sadly neglected, Gloria Mundi were right in the middle of the Punk, Post-Punk, Goth Venn Diagram intersection, and early. Awesome band still.
	1:53pm adamdoesit: I beg your pardon, Cannibal! Beak break either way.
	1:54pm Julie: this is a very dark song for EJ/Bernie and it continues to mystify me
	1:55pm Dean: Oh, yeah, Gloria Mundi. I had their first album, but it was a casualty of the Great Purge in the '80s.
	1:55pm egould: 45 Grave
	1:55pm David (in London): Dean, for you then: www.youtube.com...
	1:55pm Dean: Hell, yes, 45 Grave.
	1:56pm Julie: where do Cocteau Twins fit?
	1:56pm David (in London): Right, heading out for some evening air now. Thanks Guv'nor. Toodles groovers, have a good weekend.
	1:56pm Dean: Thank you for that, David (in London)!
	1:57pm Julie: see ya David, have a great night!
	1:59pm Dean: Doctors of Madness were sort of goth/prog hybrid.
	2:00pm chris in the redwoods: Night, David.
	2:01pm Julie: oooh Dean that sounds good, I'll have to check them out
	2:03pm Julie: the bongos!
	2:04pm Dean: They were underrated, for sure. A bit like Hawkwind, too.
	2:09pm Stanley: I tried warching some teevee. Teevee is rubbish. Hello and thank god I'm here
	2:10pm Julie: hiya Stanley!
	2:10pm Dean: This early Doctors of Madness appearance is pretty nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCvi0C48mY 1975, imagine that.
	2:13pm TDK60: Ho Stanley.
	2:14pm Stanley: Hi TDK. I'm emerging from the covid abyss.
	2:16pm Julie: emerging is good!
	2:18pm Stanley: Thanks Julie. I'm still a bit wobbly but the horrendous throat has gone.
	2:19pm chris in the redwoods: Hey, Stanley. Similarly recovered from the latest version of the plague. The most awful yet, I found it to be.
	2:19pm TDK60: Stanely Glad you're over it, didn't know ya had it. My roommate just came out of hiding after getting it. / Julie, I just sang a Donovan tune last night at an open mic.
	2:19pm Julie: ooooh which one?
	2:22pm Stanley: chris - sorry to hear that. I thought it was supposed to get easier. TDK - over the last few days, I didn't have much enthusiasm for chat, or anything else for that matter.
	2:24pm TDK60: Oh, Julie, 'twas "Epistle To Derroll" - from his "Gift from A Flower to a Garden" album, '67. The album cover where Donovan looks like a real punk on the cover. (smile)
	2:24pm Sylvia: take it easy Chris and Stanley, covid is really hard on the body, rest as much as you need, don't push it
	2:25pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Sylvia! ❤️
	2:25pm Sylvia: you're welcome, Chris <3
	2:27pm Julie: yes that is true, people who push too soon are more likely to end up with long covid! you have to get back into life REALLY slowly
	2:27pm Julie: the birds are out of control today sorry guys, they don't usually ALL yell at once
	2:31pm Stanley: thanks Syvia and Julie. Light duties, as they say.
	2:34pm chris in the redwoods: Yeah, no worries here. Keeping it chill. I never mind the birdie voices, Julie. Maybe because I’ve raised kids? Hehe.
	2:41pm Stanley: Striped shirt and trousers is an odd look.
	2:42pm Mxter Baba: greetings, Julie and folx, sounding fantastically strange in here!
	2:43pm Julie: hiya Mxter Baba!
	2:44pm Julie: Fantastically strange is a nice phrase, thank you!
	2:45pm Dean: Can't read "Test Tube Baby" without recalling comedian Robin Harris' epithet for nitwits.
	2:45pm Mxter Baba: my pleasure! 😸
	2:45pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Aw, thank you, Julie!!
	2:47pm Julie: is that a burger king crown?
	2:48pm Sylvia: <3 nah, it's a French King's Cake crown, in that case a Queen's Cake crown
	2:48pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Ha! I think it's a French thing. Epiphany maybe? It comes with the cake!
	2:49pm Julie: is it a nice cake? May I have some?
	2:49pm Sylvia: I was a at a party, probably the last one I went to, in 2019...
	2:49pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: And voila!
	2:49pm TDK60: What an eerie tune - Parties. Thanks for the fill-in Julie. Have to step out early.
	2:50pm Brian in UK: Stanley y chris, Hope the bug departs soon.
	2:50pm Julie: see ya TDK, thanks for hanging out!
	2:50pm Mxter Baba: wonderful, Sylvia! mmm, cake
	2:51pm Sylvia: there's two sorts of French King's Cake, Northern and Southern. I like them both! Northern is puff pastry with almond meal+egg+sugar filling, Southern is a sweet brioche with candied fruits on top
	2:52pm Julie: is this a recording from the party?
	2:52pm Sylvia: no, just the pic
	2:53pm Sylvia: oh, are we there yet?
	2:53pm Mxter Baba: omx both cakes sound delishhhh
	2:54pm Sylvia: they are, Mxter Baba, only available post Christmas until late January
	2:54pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: The spoken word at the end we recorded here, Julie. Not at a party. What's a party, by the way?
	2:56pm Yvang: Thank you!!!
	2:56pm Midge: A very enjoyable Dark Afternoon of the Soul. Thanks Julie!
	2:56pm Dean: Northern sounds like gâteau St. Honoré, maybe my favorite dessert of all. I can't forget the sublime one served at City, the now long-gone flagship restaurant on La Brea of Mary Sue Milliken and Susan Feniger. Later, at another of their restaurants, Susan retreated to her office to make a copy of their recipe for me. Too scared to try it.
	2:56pm Julie: hi Midge, and thank you! thanks everyone!
	2:57pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Brian. Yessir. Last week was ugly, though.
	🦇 2:58pm Michael 98145: Oh, shoot!! I forgot Julie was on today.. Oh, well. Off to archive-land -
	2:58pm Julie: whoops sorry Michael!
	🦇 2:59pm Michael 98145: Hope all is better, Julie
	3:01pm chris in the redwoods: Thanks, Julie!
	3:03pm Brian in UK: Julie, you are wearing Uncle Michael's crown unceasingly.

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from July 15, 2022

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