WFMU: The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from July 14, 2024

Listener comments!
	4:42pm DJ Peter: Ethan Iverson on Richie Beirach: substack.com...
	7:00pm doctorjazz: Hey DJ Peter, Clock watchers! At the grill, listening.
	🕰 7:01pm Listener Gregory: Good morning, late risers!
	7:02pm spodiodi: greetings, DJ Peter and Clockheads!
	7:02pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:00 Of courser, it'd be better if I was at the grill cooking, but you can't have it all!
	7:03pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:00 Of courser, it'd be better if I was at the grill cooking, but you can't have it all!
	🕰 7:04pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:03 You're standing there to get warm?
	7:05pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:04 Not warm enough in these parts...🙃
	7:06pm DJ Peter: Hi Doc, LG, spodiodi! spodiodi: is your new avatar pic a... WFMU panacotta?
	🕰 7:08pm Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @7:06 How it glistens! (As I listens...)
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:08 Hi Jeff! Really loved the George (E.) Lewis show this morning! (Had idle thoughts of throwing a couple clarinet G. Lewis tracks in for fun but... instead all Beirach.)
	🕰 7:12pm Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @7:10 Oh great; thanks, means a lot. Impossible to do justice to the full catalog, of course.
	🕰 7:16pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Some Other Time" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" Allusions here to Bill Evans's Peace Piece, which was a takeoff on Some Other Time.
	🕰 7:17pm Listener Gregory: Peter, am I right in thinking that Beirach has written about Buddhism and improvisation, or have I confused him with someone else? Also, when will I learn that there is no z in improvisation???
	7:19pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:17 Hmm -- I don't actually know the answer, but I know that Beirach and Liebman put out a book (maybe of conversations?) a few years ago, and in the early 1970s released a book about the journey from composition to recording. So if he has discussed Buddhism, that's where I'd look. And yes, definitely some "Peace Piece" and then he takes it OUT
	7:19pm doctorjazz: Here's the Beirach Go Fund Me page gofund.me...
	7:20pm doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:12 Second on the great tribute this morning, Jeff!
	7:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Mitsuku" by "Lookout Farm" Is this the most ECM-y sounding release Mosaic ever issued?
	7:26pm doctorjazz: Mosaic generally reissues music from other labels (mostly Blue Note, but others as well) But, yeah, that open ECM sound...
	7:29pm coelacanth∅: greetings Peter and hystericats
	7:29pm adamdoesit: Hi DJ Peter, tickers and talkers, clickers and clockers! Peter, I haven’t read the Ethan Iverson Beirach essay yet. I enjoy his writing, and also his vacations from it.
	🕰 7:32pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Big Alice (alternate take)" by "Don Pullen" Peter, you realize that Doug refers to you sometimes as DJ Peter and sometimes as DJ Pete?
	7:33pm coelacanth∅: hey adam! i sometimes talk, i sometimes click.
	7:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @7:29 Hi coelacanthø, adamdoes it! adam you'll be glad to know this is a shorter piece of Iverson's... yes, he can go on, but I always learn something. LG: I had thought that everyone called me Peter for ever, but someone was paging through my high school yearbook and pointed out that everyone called me Pete. I had no recollection of that...!
	7:36pm adamdoesit: Hey cøel! Pretty sure I’ve done all four the last 24h or so.
	7:36pm Soule: Hi, DJ Peter and fellow listeners! This show is sounding great.
	🕰 7:38pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:19 After fruitless web searching, I conclude I have confused Beirach with some other pianist. Oh well. Now who was that other guy??
	7:39pm DJ Peter: Glad that you dig, Soule!
	7:40pm DJ Peter: I think Wayne Shorter turned Herbie Hancock on to Buddhism... but Herbie's style was well established already.
	7:41pm doctorjazz: Medium rare burgers, 130 degree internal temperature (I always mess that up, overcook)
	🕰 7:42pm Listener Gregory: At my local coffee shop/poetry bookstore today, I saw the notebooks of Sonny Rollins for sale. I picked it up, and it was full of technical goals and plans regarding the saxophone, scales, etc. ("Full of" = the two pages I checked.) The owner told me that she had sold two copies already, even though it had not been put on the shelf yet. She was very surprised.
	7:42pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:41 it's the carryover cooking that is hard to account for!
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @7:42 That's it, always goes up another 5-10 degrees, hard to acxount for (and MsJazz wants medium...)
	7:43pm adamdoesit: doc, 4x roof pizzas here. The last one was the most pretty, but we both were so full of the first three, it won’t get eaten til tomorrow.
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 Sounds like a cool book!
	7:44pm doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @7:43 I'm cooking enough for leftovers tomorrow
	🕰 7:45pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:43 "Play all the scales that involve coming off the D-flat key, paying special attention to..." The fascinating thing is that he did all that work to get where he did, but as a reading experience...
	🕰 7:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:44 I'll be there around 5!
	7:46pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 I saw that book and can't decide whether I want to read it or the Aidan Levy bio first.
	7:48pm spodiodi: a blancmange, DJ Peter... a Monty Python reference ((re(?)) brought to my attention this morning, by listener fred. just getting into the spirit :-B 🎾 montypython.fandom.com...
	7:49pm DJ Peter: ↳ spodiodi @7:48 OMG very Wimbledon of you!
	8:03pm tom tom the pipers son: greetings dj peter and all...
	8:03pm adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Invocation" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" My favorite thing I've heard Iverson play live was a lengthy deconstruction of "Laura;" and now I can hear the Beirach in it.
	8:04pm Jeff g. via app,: Blindfold test and I’m guessing Steve Lacy on this.
	8:05pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:04 Jeff I hear some Lacy too... but it is longtime Beirach collaborator David "Dave" Liebman
	8:06pm Jeff g. via app,: Oh I saw the playlist. I have a very limited soprano sax ear, is all.
	8:06pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:03 Great composition to stretch out atonally upon (on? from?)
	8:07pm northguineahills: hazeya peter!
	8:08pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:46 Welcome any time LG!
	8:08pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:06 I remember back in the 1980s Branford Marsalis told an interviewer that on soprano he looked to Shorter for concept and Lacy for sound... and even then I thought... but can you do that? Can you separate concept from sound?
	8:09pm DJ Peter: ↳ northguineahills @8:07 hoyaloah yourserf, northguineahills!
	8:11pm Jeff g. via app,: I believe I am too hot to approach that question of yours, Peter.
	8:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:08 i guess it's something you can do in theory but not in practice
	8:12pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:11 (Allen Iverson voice): praxis? we're talking about praxis! praxis! praxis?!
	8:12pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:08 I'm not sure I buy it. I lurve Lacy, but choosing his sound would be like choosing a toothache, and I find it hard to imagine genial Branford doing so. Branford said a lot of things back then…
	8:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:12 allen iverson or the above mentioned ethan iverson? both of whom i know nothing or little about
	🕰 8:15pm Listener Gregory: ↳ adamdoesit @8:12 I love Lacy's sound!
	8:15pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:12 true. I heard him on an aircheck announce that they were going to play "Cheek to Cheek" except he called it "I'm in Heaven." Which is kinda understandable because those are the famous words. Less understandable: Francis Davis reported that he introduced "Wagon Wheels" as "a song by Sonny Rollins called Way Out West." Also understandable but... yeah we get it, you're in your 20s and don't really know music history
	🕰 8:16pm Listener Gregory: I avoided Liebman for a few decades for some reason (maybe association with fusion?). Now realize this was a mistake.
	8:16pm Jeff g. via app,: Peter dropping some Philly bball lore there…
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:15 I feel pretty sure Ethan Iverson would praise Allen Iverson's "folkloric understanding of basketball" and Allen Iverson would not even glance at him when walking away.
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:15 and I love his concept! (and his sound)
	8:17pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 lolol. Still, ballers both.
	8:19pm northguineahills: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:11 too hot to handle, too cold to control, they listen to jeff g b/c he's in control?
	8:19pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:17 I heard that!
	8:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 i'm glad i can play straight man in this comedy routine, it's all i'm qualified for
	8:20pm adamdoesit: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:15 LG, I do, too… but it hurts. The only consistent exception I know is when he's playing Monk. Then it sounds like he can't help smiling.
	8:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @8:19 jeff g on patrol...
	8:22pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:21 with a jelly roll.....naughty...naughty
	8:22pm doctorjazz: Seen Liebman, even on soprano, Coltrane jumped out. But there was a Time EVERYONE played like Trane
	8:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Invocation" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" i like how loosely structured this is
	8:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:16 There's a nice quote by Matt Pierson in the other Mosaic Select collection (Pendulum): "Liebman was clearly in the very first wave of post-Coltrane tenorists. There was certainly a lot of Trane to go around, with Bob Berg focused on his earlier recordings and Steve Grossman and Michael Brecker expanding upon the middle 'Impressions' period to name but a few... Liebman was most attracted to Coltrane's later, freer post-'A Love Supreme' work."
	8:25pm Listener Gregory: @doctorj, I think Lacy kind of skipped Trane, starting from trad jazz, discovering Monk, and then going to Europe and really digging in there.
	8:26pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:21 o-e-o!!!
	8:28pm spodiodi: that was great, DJP
	8:28pm northguineahills: 45 minutes or more/track..... for myself....
	8:29pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:25 Sure, similar to Roswell Rudd (which is likely why they played together so well)
	8:29pm adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Dreams (Alternate Take)" by "Susie Ibarra Trio" All pendulums do have periods…
	8:31pm doctorjazz: I saw Lacy with a group with a violin, vocalist, rhythm at the old Sweet Basil. It was a bit of a shock at the time...
	8:33pm Listener Gregory: Bad news, Peter… your mom tuned out when she heard that a 26-minute duet was coming up! But it’s a nice thought. I hope she recovers quickly.
	8:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:29 The Clock bows to your expertise in periodicity!
	8:34pm doctorjazz: Yes, best health wishes for Mama DJ Peter!
	8:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:33 Oh she's not listening at all!
	8:36pm adamdoesit: ↳ doctorjazz @8:31 I only got to see Lacy once, at the Knitting Factory, opposite Don Byron. It was not a friendly encounter. Figurative blood on the stage. Not Lacy's.
	8:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @8:36 Interesting, Byron is no slouch...Seen him a bunch of times.
	8:42pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:36 Wow awesome! I've seen Lacy a couple times, interestingly both times in situations with romantic potential... saw the Sextet in Boston (and picked up my first serious girlfriend). Then in 1998 saw the trio in a weird venue in Long Beach: the stage was at the end of this long room, ceiling maybe 20 feet high (cafe I think) and the stage was ten feet above us at the end of the room. Love that trio, big fan of Jean-Jacques Avenel and you could really hear him in the trio setting
	8:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 Oh this one was kind of a set-up? And a few months later I was at a party at her sister's place and her sister said, "yeah that wasn't really a match. you and I are more of a match." (She was NOT propositioning me, her boyfriend was right there. And she was famous in some circles as the lead singer of a punk-pop outfit)
	8:44pm solo mon: hey dj peter!
	8:45pm DJ Peter: solo mon! it's good to have you back! drop your playlist link here!
	8:46pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 You put the sex in sextet, hey? doc, yeah, I didn't get the animus, but it was hard to miss.
	8:48pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:46 Well just that once. Usually I put the awk into octet
	8:49pm solo mon: ↳ DJ Peter @8:45 thanks! they say you cant have a come back unless youve gone away
	8:49pm DJ Peter: For Primal Ice Cream: wfmu.org... Hello! Hello? Hello!
	8:50pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:48 Hee hee. Better that than the NO! in nonet.
	8:50pm Listener Gregory: Byron often seemed mad about things.
	8:51pm Soule: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 I saw Lacy play unaccompanied at Grace Cathedral, a big Gothic cathedral in San Francisco. Also on the bill: Jackie McLean, also unaccompanied. 'Twas incredible.
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ Soule @8:51 wow McLean a capella! envious!
	8:54pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Rectilinear" by "Richie Beirach/George Coleman" Not what I'd expect from Coleman-really like him, but think of him as a more traditional player. Nice duo!
	8:55pm spodiodi: thanks, DJ Peter! great show
	8:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Rectilinear" by "Richie Beirach/George Coleman" (most of the time he IS playing blues changes...)
	8:56pm Soule: ↳ DJ Peter @8:53 Oh, hey, it looks like there's a recording of that show on line: californiarevealed.org...
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks dj peter...
	8:56pm Soule: Thanks for this show today, it's been wonderful.
	8:56pm doctorjazz: Thanks, DJ Peter, nice to be able to hang the whole show for a change, dug it!
	8:57pm adamdoesit: Great show, DJ Peter. Thanks for the sounds!
	8:59pm adamdoesit: Speedy recovery, Mere Peter!
	8:59pm Listener Gregory: Well, I was worried at first, but the show was very entertaining. Thanks a lot, DJ Petey! Will have to check out that Beirach/Liebman collection.
	9:00pm Listener Gregory: Oops, forgot to laugh—again!
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Peter! take care
	🕰 9:00pm WR: Thank you! DJ Peter! and thanks to all the commentors for commenting.
	9:01pm DJ Peter: Thanks WR, coelacnathø, LG, adamdoesit, doc, Soule, tom tom, spodiodi, Jeff G, and everybody!

The Laughing Clock with DJ Peter: Playlist from July 14, 2024

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Count Basie	M Squad Theme (excerpt)	Basic Basie	MPS	1969	Eric Dixon (fl) Freddie Green (g) Norman Keenan (b) Harold Jones (d) Chico O'Farrill (arr), et al.	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Red Garland	M Squad Theme "M Squad Theme" by "Red Garland"	Red In Bluesville	Prestige	1969	4/17/1959: Red Garland (p) Sam Jones (b) Art Taylor (d)	0:00:30 (Pop-up)
Quest	Natural Selection "Natural Selection" by "Quest"	Natural Selection	Pathfinder	1988	June 1988: David Liebman (sop) Richie Beirach (p) Ron McClure (b,el-b) Billy Hart (d)	0:04:41 (Pop-up)
David Liebman & Richie Beirach	Some Other Time	Double Edge	Storyville	1985	4/21/1985: David Liebman (sop) Richie Beirach (p)	0:12:48 (Pop-up)
David Liebman & Richie Beirach	Oleo	Double Edge	Storyville	1985	4/21/1985: David Liebman (sop) Richie Beirach (p)	0:17:02 (Pop-up)
Lookout Farm	Mitsuku "Mitsuku" by "Lookout Farm"	Mosaic Select 12: David Liebman & Richie Beirach	Mosaic	2004	Live at the Keystone Korner, 1976. David Liebman (sop,ts,perc) Richie Beirach (p,el-p) Frank Tusa (el-b,b) Jeff Williams (d) Todd Barkan (perc)	0:20:44 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Don Pullen	Big Alice (alternate take)	Richard's Tune	Sackville		2014 CD reissue of "Solo Piano Album" with two bonus tracks. Recorded 1975.	0:27:43 (Pop-up)
Abercrombie Quartet	Veils "Veils" by "Abercrombie Quartet"	M	ECM	1981	November 1980: Richie Beirach (p) John Abercrombie (el-g,g) George Mraz (b) Peter Donald (d)	0:32:03 (Pop-up)
Richard Beirach	Pendulum "Pendulum" by "Richard Beirach"	Elm	ECM	1979	May 1979: Richie Beirach (p) George Mraz (b) Jack DeJohnette (d)	0:37:40 (Pop-up)
Quest	Gargoyles "Gargoyles" by "Quest"	Quest II	Storyville	1986	4/17/1986: David Liebman (sop) Richie Beirach (p) Ron McClure (b) Billy Hart (d)	0:44:07 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Mary Lou Williams	Medi I "Medi I" by "Mary Lou Williams"	Zoning	Smithsonian Folkways		1/17/1974, with Bob Cranshaw (bass guitar). DJP edit.	0:53:19 (Pop-up)
David Liebman & Richie Beirach	Invocation	Mosaic Select 12: David Liebman & Richie Beirach	Mosaic	2004	Live in NY, 1990. David Liebman (sop,ts,alto-fl) Richie Beirach (p)	0:58:44 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Susie Ibarra Trio	Dreams (Alternate Take)	Radiance	Hopscotch	1999	7/18/1999: Cooper-Moore (p,harp,diddley-bo) Charles Burnham (vln) Susie Ibarra (d,perc)	1:26:37 (Pop-up)
Chet Baker Trio	Broken Wing "Broken Wing" by "Chet Baker Trio"	Daybreak	Storyville	1986	10/4/1979: Chet Baker (tp,vcl) Doug Raney (g) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b)	1:31:26 (Pop-up)
Richie Beirach	Paradox "Paradox" by "Richie Beirach"	Some Other Time: A Tribute to Chet Baker	Triloka	1990	April 1989: Richie Beirach (p) George Mraz (b) Adam Nussbaum (d) Randy Brecker (tp) John Scofield (g)	1:39:22 (Pop-up)
Quest	The 4th. Wall / Rectilinear	Midpoint (Quest III: Live at the Montmartre Copenhagen Denmark)	Storyville	1988	April 1987: David Liebman (sop) Richie Beirach (p) Ron McClure (b) Billy Hart (d)	1:46:10 (Pop-up)
Richie Beirach/George Coleman	Rectilinear	Convergence	Triloka	1991	November 1990: George Coleman (ts,sop) Richie Beirach (p)	1:52:11 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Joe Chambers Moving Picture Orchestra	M Squad Theme	Live at Dizzy's Club Coca-Cola	Savant	2012	September 2011. Craig Handy (tenor sax), David Weiss (trumpet), Xavier Davis (piano), Dwayne Burno (bass), Joe Chambers (drums, vibes, arranger), Steve Berrios (percussion), et al.	1:57:25 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	4:42pm DJ Peter: Ethan Iverson on Richie Beirach: substack.com...
	7:00pm doctorjazz: Hey DJ Peter, Clock watchers! At the grill, listening.
	🕰 7:01pm Listener Gregory: Good morning, late risers!
	7:02pm spodiodi: greetings, DJ Peter and Clockheads!
	7:02pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:00 Of courser, it'd be better if I was at the grill cooking, but you can't have it all!
	7:03pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @7:00 Of courser, it'd be better if I was at the grill cooking, but you can't have it all!
	🕰 7:04pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:03 You're standing there to get warm?
	7:05pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:04 Not warm enough in these parts...🙃
	7:06pm DJ Peter: Hi Doc, LG, spodiodi! spodiodi: is your new avatar pic a... WFMU panacotta?
	🕰 7:08pm Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @7:06 How it glistens! (As I listens...)
	7:10pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:08 Hi Jeff! Really loved the George (E.) Lewis show this morning! (Had idle thoughts of throwing a couple clarinet G. Lewis tracks in for fun but... instead all Beirach.)
	🕰 7:12pm Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @7:10 Oh great; thanks, means a lot. Impossible to do justice to the full catalog, of course.
	🕰 7:16pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Some Other Time" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" Allusions here to Bill Evans's Peace Piece, which was a takeoff on Some Other Time.
	🕰 7:17pm Listener Gregory: Peter, am I right in thinking that Beirach has written about Buddhism and improvisation, or have I confused him with someone else? Also, when will I learn that there is no z in improvisation???
	7:19pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:17 Hmm -- I don't actually know the answer, but I know that Beirach and Liebman put out a book (maybe of conversations?) a few years ago, and in the early 1970s released a book about the journey from composition to recording. So if he has discussed Buddhism, that's where I'd look. And yes, definitely some "Peace Piece" and then he takes it OUT
	7:19pm doctorjazz: Here's the Beirach Go Fund Me page gofund.me...
	7:20pm doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:12 Second on the great tribute this morning, Jeff!
	7:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Mitsuku" by "Lookout Farm" Is this the most ECM-y sounding release Mosaic ever issued?
	7:26pm doctorjazz: Mosaic generally reissues music from other labels (mostly Blue Note, but others as well) But, yeah, that open ECM sound...
	7:29pm coelacanth∅: greetings Peter and hystericats
	7:29pm adamdoesit: Hi DJ Peter, tickers and talkers, clickers and clockers! Peter, I haven’t read the Ethan Iverson Beirach essay yet. I enjoy his writing, and also his vacations from it.
	🕰 7:32pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Big Alice (alternate take)" by "Don Pullen" Peter, you realize that Doug refers to you sometimes as DJ Peter and sometimes as DJ Pete?
	7:33pm coelacanth∅: hey adam! i sometimes talk, i sometimes click.
	7:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @7:29 Hi coelacanthø, adamdoes it! adam you'll be glad to know this is a shorter piece of Iverson's... yes, he can go on, but I always learn something. LG: I had thought that everyone called me Peter for ever, but someone was paging through my high school yearbook and pointed out that everyone called me Pete. I had no recollection of that...!
	7:36pm adamdoesit: Hey cøel! Pretty sure I’ve done all four the last 24h or so.
	7:36pm Soule: Hi, DJ Peter and fellow listeners! This show is sounding great.
	🕰 7:38pm Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @7:19 After fruitless web searching, I conclude I have confused Beirach with some other pianist. Oh well. Now who was that other guy??
	7:39pm DJ Peter: Glad that you dig, Soule!
	7:40pm DJ Peter: I think Wayne Shorter turned Herbie Hancock on to Buddhism... but Herbie's style was well established already.
	7:41pm doctorjazz: Medium rare burgers, 130 degree internal temperature (I always mess that up, overcook)
	🕰 7:42pm Listener Gregory: At my local coffee shop/poetry bookstore today, I saw the notebooks of Sonny Rollins for sale. I picked it up, and it was full of technical goals and plans regarding the saxophone, scales, etc. ("Full of" = the two pages I checked.) The owner told me that she had sold two copies already, even though it had not been put on the shelf yet. She was very surprised.
	7:42pm DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @7:41 it's the carryover cooking that is hard to account for!
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @7:42 That's it, always goes up another 5-10 degrees, hard to acxount for (and MsJazz wants medium...)
	7:43pm adamdoesit: doc, 4x roof pizzas here. The last one was the most pretty, but we both were so full of the first three, it won’t get eaten til tomorrow.
	7:43pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 Sounds like a cool book!
	7:44pm doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @7:43 I'm cooking enough for leftovers tomorrow
	🕰 7:45pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:43 "Play all the scales that involve coming off the D-flat key, paying special attention to..." The fascinating thing is that he did all that work to get where he did, but as a reading experience...
	🕰 7:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:44 I'll be there around 5!
	7:46pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:42 I saw that book and can't decide whether I want to read it or the Aidan Levy bio first.
	7:48pm spodiodi: a blancmange, DJ Peter... a Monty Python reference ((re(?)) brought to my attention this morning, by listener fred. just getting into the spirit :-B 🎾 montypython.fandom.com...
	7:49pm DJ Peter: ↳ spodiodi @7:48 OMG very Wimbledon of you!
	8:03pm tom tom the pipers son: greetings dj peter and all...
	8:03pm adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Invocation" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" My favorite thing I've heard Iverson play live was a lengthy deconstruction of "Laura;" and now I can hear the Beirach in it.
	8:04pm Jeff g. via app,: Blindfold test and I’m guessing Steve Lacy on this.
	8:05pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:04 Jeff I hear some Lacy too... but it is longtime Beirach collaborator David "Dave" Liebman
	8:06pm Jeff g. via app,: Oh I saw the playlist. I have a very limited soprano sax ear, is all.
	8:06pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:03 Great composition to stretch out atonally upon (on? from?)
	8:07pm northguineahills: hazeya peter!
	8:08pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:46 Welcome any time LG!
	8:08pm DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:06 I remember back in the 1980s Branford Marsalis told an interviewer that on soprano he looked to Shorter for concept and Lacy for sound... and even then I thought... but can you do that? Can you separate concept from sound?
	8:09pm DJ Peter: ↳ northguineahills @8:07 hoyaloah yourserf, northguineahills!
	8:11pm Jeff g. via app,: I believe I am too hot to approach that question of yours, Peter.
	8:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:08 i guess it's something you can do in theory but not in practice
	8:12pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:11 (Allen Iverson voice): praxis? we're talking about praxis! praxis! praxis?!
	8:12pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:08 I'm not sure I buy it. I lurve Lacy, but choosing his sound would be like choosing a toothache, and I find it hard to imagine genial Branford doing so. Branford said a lot of things back then…
	8:15pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:12 allen iverson or the above mentioned ethan iverson? both of whom i know nothing or little about
	🕰 8:15pm Listener Gregory: ↳ adamdoesit @8:12 I love Lacy's sound!
	8:15pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:12 true. I heard him on an aircheck announce that they were going to play "Cheek to Cheek" except he called it "I'm in Heaven." Which is kinda understandable because those are the famous words. Less understandable: Francis Davis reported that he introduced "Wagon Wheels" as "a song by Sonny Rollins called Way Out West." Also understandable but... yeah we get it, you're in your 20s and don't really know music history
	🕰 8:16pm Listener Gregory: I avoided Liebman for a few decades for some reason (maybe association with fusion?). Now realize this was a mistake.
	8:16pm Jeff g. via app,: Peter dropping some Philly bball lore there…
	8:16pm DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:15 I feel pretty sure Ethan Iverson would praise Allen Iverson's "folkloric understanding of basketball" and Allen Iverson would not even glance at him when walking away.
	8:17pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:15 and I love his concept! (and his sound)
	8:17pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 lolol. Still, ballers both.
	8:19pm northguineahills: ↳ Jeff g. via app, @8:11 too hot to handle, too cold to control, they listen to jeff g b/c he's in control?
	8:19pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:17 I heard that!
	8:19pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @8:16 i'm glad i can play straight man in this comedy routine, it's all i'm qualified for
	8:20pm adamdoesit: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:15 LG, I do, too… but it hurts. The only consistent exception I know is when he's playing Monk. Then it sounds like he can't help smiling.
	8:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ northguineahills @8:19 jeff g on patrol...
	8:22pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:21 with a jelly roll.....naughty...naughty
	8:22pm doctorjazz: Seen Liebman, even on soprano, Coltrane jumped out. But there was a Time EVERYONE played like Trane
	8:23pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Invocation" by "David Liebman & Richie Beirach" i like how loosely structured this is
	8:24pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:16 There's a nice quote by Matt Pierson in the other Mosaic Select collection (Pendulum): "Liebman was clearly in the very first wave of post-Coltrane tenorists. There was certainly a lot of Trane to go around, with Bob Berg focused on his earlier recordings and Steve Grossman and Michael Brecker expanding upon the middle 'Impressions' period to name but a few... Liebman was most attracted to Coltrane's later, freer post-'A Love Supreme' work."
	8:25pm Listener Gregory: @doctorj, I think Lacy kind of skipped Trane, starting from trad jazz, discovering Monk, and then going to Europe and really digging in there.
	8:26pm northguineahills: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:21 o-e-o!!!
	8:28pm spodiodi: that was great, DJP
	8:28pm northguineahills: 45 minutes or more/track..... for myself....
	8:29pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:25 Sure, similar to Roswell Rudd (which is likely why they played together so well)
	8:29pm adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Dreams (Alternate Take)" by "Susie Ibarra Trio" All pendulums do have periods…
	8:31pm doctorjazz: I saw Lacy with a group with a violin, vocalist, rhythm at the old Sweet Basil. It was a bit of a shock at the time...
	8:33pm Listener Gregory: Bad news, Peter… your mom tuned out when she heard that a 26-minute duet was coming up! But it’s a nice thought. I hope she recovers quickly.
	8:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:29 The Clock bows to your expertise in periodicity!
	8:34pm doctorjazz: Yes, best health wishes for Mama DJ Peter!
	8:34pm DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:33 Oh she's not listening at all!
	8:36pm adamdoesit: ↳ doctorjazz @8:31 I only got to see Lacy once, at the Knitting Factory, opposite Don Byron. It was not a friendly encounter. Figurative blood on the stage. Not Lacy's.
	8:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @8:36 Interesting, Byron is no slouch...Seen him a bunch of times.
	8:42pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:36 Wow awesome! I've seen Lacy a couple times, interestingly both times in situations with romantic potential... saw the Sextet in Boston (and picked up my first serious girlfriend). Then in 1998 saw the trio in a weird venue in Long Beach: the stage was at the end of this long room, ceiling maybe 20 feet high (cafe I think) and the stage was ten feet above us at the end of the room. Love that trio, big fan of Jean-Jacques Avenel and you could really hear him in the trio setting
	8:44pm DJ Peter: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 Oh this one was kind of a set-up? And a few months later I was at a party at her sister's place and her sister said, "yeah that wasn't really a match. you and I are more of a match." (She was NOT propositioning me, her boyfriend was right there. And she was famous in some circles as the lead singer of a punk-pop outfit)
	8:44pm solo mon: hey dj peter!
	8:45pm DJ Peter: solo mon! it's good to have you back! drop your playlist link here!
	8:46pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 You put the sex in sextet, hey? doc, yeah, I didn't get the animus, but it was hard to miss.
	8:48pm DJ Peter: ↳ adamdoesit @8:46 Well just that once. Usually I put the awk into octet
	8:49pm solo mon: ↳ DJ Peter @8:45 thanks! they say you cant have a come back unless youve gone away
	8:49pm DJ Peter: For Primal Ice Cream: wfmu.org... Hello! Hello? Hello!
	8:50pm adamdoesit: ↳ DJ Peter @8:48 Hee hee. Better that than the NO! in nonet.
	8:50pm Listener Gregory: Byron often seemed mad about things.
	8:51pm Soule: ↳ DJ Peter @8:42 I saw Lacy play unaccompanied at Grace Cathedral, a big Gothic cathedral in San Francisco. Also on the bill: Jackie McLean, also unaccompanied. 'Twas incredible.
	8:53pm DJ Peter: ↳ Soule @8:51 wow McLean a capella! envious!
	8:54pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Rectilinear" by "Richie Beirach/George Coleman" Not what I'd expect from Coleman-really like him, but think of him as a more traditional player. Nice duo!
	8:55pm spodiodi: thanks, DJ Peter! great show
	8:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Rectilinear" by "Richie Beirach/George Coleman" (most of the time he IS playing blues changes...)
	8:56pm Soule: ↳ DJ Peter @8:53 Oh, hey, it looks like there's a recording of that show on line: californiarevealed.org...
	8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks dj peter...
	8:56pm Soule: Thanks for this show today, it's been wonderful.
	8:56pm doctorjazz: Thanks, DJ Peter, nice to be able to hang the whole show for a change, dug it!
	8:57pm adamdoesit: Great show, DJ Peter. Thanks for the sounds!
	8:59pm adamdoesit: Speedy recovery, Mere Peter!
	8:59pm Listener Gregory: Well, I was worried at first, but the show was very entertaining. Thanks a lot, DJ Petey! Will have to check out that Beirach/Liebman collection.
	9:00pm Listener Gregory: Oops, forgot to laugh—again!
	9:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Peter! take care
	🕰 9:00pm WR: Thank you! DJ Peter! and thanks to all the commentors for commenting.
	9:01pm DJ Peter: Thanks WR, coelacnathø, LG, adamdoesit, doc, Soule, tom tom, spodiodi, Jeff G, and everybody!

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