WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from May 25, 2014

Listener comments!
	10:02pm Dave Mandl: Evening, radio lovers.
	10:03pm 12539: Dave, I am glad to hear about the upcoming extra hour.
	10:04pm P-90: Evenin', Dave! You got the 3rd hour back! YaaaaaaaY!
	10:04pm doca: Hi, Mr. Dave Mandl. Also glad you got your 3rd hour back and that your show will be back to the old time slot
	10:06pm doca: @Dave: I got a book to read for writing a paper and I was very glad when I read "Book design: Dave Mandl". Is is you or the other Dave Mandl around the world?
	10:06pm 12539: End Mandl Savings Time once and for all, I say.
	10:06pm earrie: The third hour was ..found between the cushions, discovered beyond the horizon, sprung forward with daylight savings time ..
	10:06pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. I'll try to live up to your high standards.
	10:07pm doca: I only hope we don't see an increase by 1/3 of rock and roll in your show.
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Hmmmm...that's always possible.
	10:09pm P-90: As the good book says: "......the Station Manager giveth, and the Station Manager taketh away" --and we mortals can only hope for the best and roll with the punches
	10:09pm Dave Mandl: @doca: That's probably me. I don't want to plug my own stuff here, but who's the author of the book?
	10:10pm doca: @Dave: It's "Behind the Blip: Essays on the Culture of Software", by Matthew Fuller (ed. Autonomedia)
	10:11pm earrie: ..basking in the twilight zone ..misfiled
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Yup, that would be me.
	10:12pm Dave Mandl: Good book (which I can't take credit for). Matt's a very smart guy.
	10:12pm The Brooklyn Kid: A good evening to you MR Mandl
	10:13pm Dave Mandl: Ah, Brooklyn Kid. Welcome.
	10:14pm doca: @Dave: Ah cool! It always brings me a smile whenever I see WFMU-related people on non-WFMU-related things. It's like a shibboleth
	10:14pm Cooh John: Why not? Great muzique as alwaze.
	10:16pm Droll: Drum-n-Bass opener with bands that blow... Mandl, we need to talk.
	10:16pm doca: @Dave: I've only read the first chapter, but it's really nice. It is helping me on an essay about computer mediation in the crafting of historical sources.
	10:16pm Dave Mandl: @Cooh John: Thanks.
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Well, horn players that blow.
	10:18pm The Brooklyn Kid: Me Mandl I've listened to your show on and off for the past few years.
	10:19pm The Brooklyn Kid: Groovy sounds tonight I'm going to find my beret, dark glasses and turtle neck sweater
	10:20pm Dave Mandl: You'll sweat to death wearing that outfit in Brooklyn in late May.
	10:21pm The Brooklyn Kid: Yeah baby I'm a hip cat:)
	10:23pm Cooh John: @ The Brooklyn Kid: Do not forget your jacket with elbow patches if it gets chilly.
	10:23pm The Brooklyn Kid: I'm going to recite poetry now How can a dude put his past behind him when it's always in front if him
	10:28pm The Brooklyn Kid: More poetry... Have a nice day Try not to get in anyone's way Enjoy your stay Don't forget to pay Tip the doorman ray What else do you want me to say?
	10:28pm jeanne: Dave's hilarious tonight, boys n girlz.
	10:29pm Droll: "worlds first supergroup" ... "you didn't miss much". Viva le 3rd hour of commentary! ...Beautiful Lies You Could Live In. ‎(LP): Reprise Records RS 6467 US 1971
	10:30pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES was the first supergroup
	10:31pm doca: I loved that second line too, Droll.
	10:32pm Droll: Ramses is 10cc!!! Please wait until you have a 3-hour show for that special!
	10:32pm doca: This Ramases is the one Joe McGasko did an interview with the guy that ran the compilation, isn't? Great interview and great figure
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: @jeanne: Why, thank you.
	10:34pm Dave Mandl: @Brooklyn: Cream was a few years earlier, but let's agree to disagree.
	10:35pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES had so many more hits than cream.didn't they
	10:36pm doca: Ken should do a YES show for once. Three hours of it.
	10:37pm doca: @Dave: on which label did this Ramases comp was released?
	10:38pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES and THE WHO
	10:38pm Dave Mandl: @Brooklyn: "supergroup" not in the sense of great, but in the sense of who the members were.
	10:40pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Stormvox? More info here: www.copticcat.com...
	10:40pm The Brooklyn Kid: Aha.
	10:40pm Droll: . o O ( Super is in the ears of the beholder ) By that definition, "supergroups" were a dime a dozen with the jazzers.
	10:41pm doca: @Dave: Thanks!
	10:42pm JakeGould: I took one of those 2-3 hour “naps” where I just woke up now. Not complaining. Hello!
	10:42pm The Brooklyn Kid: Well ok talent wise you have to give some to YES for all their hits and THE WHO
	10:43pm pacific standard simon: Hello all. Finally home from work. Mr. Mandl is correct -- the term "supergroup" referred to rock groups made up of people who were already famous for being in other bands. Cream is the earliest example I can think of.
	10:44pm pacific standard simon: Also, probably the beginning of the term "power trio"
	10:44pm Droll: Howdy pss! Can you define "famous"? I can make a list of supergroups if we can nail this down.
	10:45pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Jake, pss, and everyone else who I haven't said "Evening" to yet.
	10:45pm JakeGould: @Droll Exactly. There are a few indie “supergroups” that are really just groups.
	10:46pm Dave Mandl: Like everything else, the term is used recklessly now, but it was clear what a "supergroup" was in the '70s. Doesn't mean they were good!
	10:47pm 12539: Wikipedia says, "Cream was widely regarded as being the world's first successful supergroup," which makes me wonder - what was the world's first failed supergroup?
	10:49pm The Brooklyn Kid: To me when I hear the word "supergroup" I think of a band from the 60's or 70's that had a lot of char topping hits I blame the dj's at the old wnew radio station up the dial
	10:49pm JakeGould: I barely got it. So you are saying that Ginger Baker was a musical force of his own back then, right? And what `12539` says. Bingo. Yahtzee.
	10:49pm pacific standard simon: In those primitive rock 'n' roll days, I think all the members had to have at least one album out as a member of a band, and had quit said band. By that standard, Ginger Baker, was the least super of the band. Blind Faith was even more "super", as a group, because several members had already been members of "supergroups".
	10:50pm Droll: 12539, And if you can answer that question, then we have to deal with what is super about a failed group?
	10:50pm JakeGould: @The Brooklyn Kid: WNEW was great. Period. You realize many WNEW DJs and their format came from WFMU?
	10:51pm pacific standard simon: Ginger Baker was, hmm, a member of Graham Bond's band?
	10:51pm earrie: ..timeshifted
	10:54pm pacific standard simon: Yes. With Jack Bruce, who had also been in John Mayall's band. The whole idea of "musical chairs" in rock music was not familiar to rock and pop fans, as it was to jazz fans.
	10:56pm the Brooklyn kid: Scott Muni!!! Yes I distinctly remember him calling YES a rock supergroup
	10:57pm pacific standard simon: I've spent waaaay too much time poring over Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees!
	10:57pm pacific standard simon: pouring. or maybe purring.
	10:57pm 12539: In jazz, it's just the "Lead Player Trio." In rock, you need a silly name.
	10:59pm JakeGould: “Yes” was a supergroup. You might not like “Yes” because if some progrock indie snobbery, but that is what they are.
	10:59pm the Brooklyn kid: I spent a lot of years listening to wnew. Scott Muni Dennis Elsis Pete Formatale Dam Carlyle Carol miller
	10:59pm P-90: pss: you got it, the scene of young professional rock musicians in London at that time was very much like the scene in New York/Chicago/Hollywood, guys jumped from one band to another and played sessions for other artists all the time.
	11:01pm Droll: 12539, That's a good point I hadn't noticed before. Jazz band names are literal: The So-and-so Trio. So-and-so with the Whoevers. Rock names are Dada.
	11:03pm Droll: If the original lineup of Yes is a supergroup, what is the 19th lineup of Yes? A Super-duper-ultra-mega-group?
	11:04pm JakeGould: @Droll: It’s because jazz musicians get together to jam, work well together & then form a band on the spot. And most jazz musicians have a strong individual identify in addition to their band affiliations. Rock & pop bands are a bit more pretentious & self important. And if you have a solo life? Whoa! Back off! You can’t do that!
	11:05pm pacific standard simon: I'm not sure what the proper term for Yes might be, but I'm pretty sure that "supergroup" in the original sense of the word, before it was corrupted by corrupt FM DJs, is NOT one correct one. Wouldn't surprise me if a whole bunch of bands, from Zeppelin to Tull to whoever headlined at an arena, got tagged as a "supergroup".
	11:06pm JakeGould: @PSS: Do you mean that because nowadays ‘supergroup” is far more of a conscious moniker?
	11:06pm P-90: Yes was definitely referred to as a "supergroup" when they formed by the time Howe and Wakeman joined; by then the members had all distinguished themselves in other bands, though the "other band" that Squire and Anderson had proven themselves in was earlier version(s) of Yes, so it's a little convoluted And by then it was 69, three years after Cream had formed w/much "supergroup" hoopla
	11:12pm pacific standard simon: If "supergroup" was ever misapplied to any arena-rock band in the 70s, it strikes me as being more of advertising ploy by commercial radio DJs reading advertising copy. For my money, the definitive, if not the first, super bands were the Bloomfield, Kooper & Stills "Super Session" band, Blind Faith, and Crosby, Stills, & Nash.
	11:15pm Droll: The supergroups Yes and King Crimson merged to form the group Asia. Super²-group?
	11:17pm pacific standard simon: Also, "it's getting too the point where I'm no fun anymore". HA HA :D
	11:18pm Droll: Yeah, there's no definitive list here. [Yawn]
	11:18pm Ken From Hyde Park: I was in the grocery store a couple hours ago and Rolling Stone had an article about Robin Gibb. He was big in the 70s. I didn't finish the article. Will try to see if it's online yet.
	11:20pm P-90: CSN (+Y!) is a great example of a textbook supergroup, Blind Faith is the classic example, the "type specimen" of the genre. pss is right, it depends on the definition, lots of bands were made up of "previously very successful" guys. And Led Zep WAS referred to as a supergroup by the English press at the time they appeared, but right, then what about Tull and others?
	11:22pm pacific standard simon: It's starting to strike me as odd that we're chatting about this on a radio show that is "Guaranteed less than 2% rock and roll." (!)
	11:24pm P-90: Alao: if Clapton and Baker were veterans of another supergroup, did that make Blind Faith a super-suoergroup?
	11:24pm Dave Mandl: Only un-super-groups for me.
	11:24pm pacific standard simon: Emerson Lake and Palmer (who?)
	11:25pm 12539: The 2% limit doesn't apply to us, only to Dave.
	11:26pm pacific standard simon: Good thing -- I'd hate to be banished!
	11:26pm P-90: We like our WFMU playlists very un-super, and our Comments sometimes uber-super. Just the way it is, go figure...
	11:29pm earrie: .. caught in a loop one might surmise as being something-seasonal at the international date line
	11:29pm pacific standard simon: There should be a category for anti-supergroups -- ultra-famous bands whose members quit and become huge losers. Frank Zappa and the Mothers, anyone?
	11:39pm earrie: .. sent aloft where it circulated up and through Earth's troposphere, stratosphere, mesosphere and ionosphere. Wandering in and around and back.
	11:39pm pacific standard simon: I think there must have been another clerical error -- no Monica on the schedule.
	11:40pm pacific standard simon: 2%!
	11:41pm pacific standard simon: So Quicksilver, it's scary.
	11:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Monica is the Landon Donovan of WFMU, I take it?
	11:46pm Droll: Ahhh, Mandl's back to his old tricks of of playing jazz shredders to squeeze in so many notes the 2% non-rock quota is maintained.
	11:46pm pacific standard simon: Have I mentioned that I found an online database of all Bill Graham productions at Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco? It was a gas, looking up the shows I was at, but could barely remember.
	11:46pm JakeGould: Jazz is great. Period.
	11:49pm pacific standard simon: I know that Eric Dolphy is Bob Brainen's territory on FMU, but that would be a nice start to the return of the 3-hour World of Echo.
	11:56pm P-90: pss: is there a link to that Fillmore joint?
	11:56pm P-90: I mean Winterland
	11:57pm 12539: Lovely percussion. Thanks for the show, Dave.
	11:58pm P-90: See? two hours go by way too fast! Thanks, Dave!
	11:59pm Droll: Thanks, Dave! I like all the live horns, but give Mellotron another chance when you have the third hour back. Have a good week!
	11:59pm pacific standard simon: www.chickenonaunicycle.com...
	12:00am P-90: Thnks, pss
	12:00am earrie: Agreed, yeah. Here's to that 3rd hr return.
	12:00am Dave Mandl: Thanks, everyone. Have a great week!

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from May 25, 2014

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May 25, 2014

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Pearls Before Swine	Snow Queen "Snow Queen" by "Pearls Before Swine"	...Beautiful Lies You Could Live In	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Balval	Insomnia "Insomnia" by "Balval"	Ten Hand Band	0:04:48 (Pop-up)
Ginger Baker	Ginger Spice "Ginger Spice" by "Ginger Baker"	Why?	0:07:43 (Pop-up)
Chico Hamilton Quintet	Gongs East	Gongs East	0:13:41 (Pop-up)
Bud Powell	Dance of the Infidels "Dance of the Infidels" by "Bud Powell"	Birdland 1953	0:18:03 (Pop-up)

Ramases	Quasar One (Rare: Part I)	Complete Discography	0:30:12 (Pop-up)
Markku Peltola	Ou-Ou-Ah? "Ou-Ou-Ah?" by "Markku Peltola"	Buster Keatonin Ratsutilalla	0:35:24 (Pop-up)
Ted Curson Quartet	Cinq Quatre "Cinq Quatre" by "Ted Curson Quartet"	Urge	0:43:17 (Pop-up)
Sixtoo	[side A] "[side A]" by "Sixtoo"	Boxcutter Emporium	0:50:39 (Pop-up)

Grg Ptrsn	Esther Island, 1959 "Esther Island, 1959" by "Grg Ptrsn"	Crossing the Empty Set	1:13:38 (Pop-up)
Mr. Scruff	Deliverance "Deliverance" by "Mr. Scruff"	Friendly Bacteria	1:16:43 (Pop-up)
Bob Ostertag	Cornflower "Cornflower" by "Bob Ostertag"	Verbatim	1:20:49 (Pop-up)
Alek et les Japonaises	Tori No Karaage	Kokekokko	1:24:41 (Pop-up)
Crooked Jades	Fork & File "Fork & File" by "Crooked Jades"	World's on Fire	1:27:28 (Pop-up)
Bert Jansch	Oh My Babe "Oh My Babe" by "Bert Jansch"	It Don't Bother Me	1:28:58 (Pop-up)

Farm	Sunshine in My Window "Sunshine in My Window" by "Farm"	Farm	1:37:49 (Pop-up)
Sonny Rollins	B. Swift "B. Swift" by "Sonny Rollins"	Sonny Boy	1:41:24 (Pop-up)
George Crumb	Zeitgeist, Part I: Portent	Zeitgeist, Celestial Mechanics	1:47:22 (Pop-up)
Glenn Kotche	Haunted Dance "Haunted Dance" by "Glenn Kotche"	Adventureland	1:58:19 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:02pm Dave Mandl: Evening, radio lovers.
	10:03pm 12539: Dave, I am glad to hear about the upcoming extra hour.
	10:04pm P-90: Evenin', Dave! You got the 3rd hour back! YaaaaaaaY!
	10:04pm doca: Hi, Mr. Dave Mandl. Also glad you got your 3rd hour back and that your show will be back to the old time slot
	10:06pm doca: @Dave: I got a book to read for writing a paper and I was very glad when I read "Book design: Dave Mandl". Is is you or the other Dave Mandl around the world?
	10:06pm 12539: End Mandl Savings Time once and for all, I say.
	10:06pm earrie: The third hour was ..found between the cushions, discovered beyond the horizon, sprung forward with daylight savings time ..
	10:06pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. I'll try to live up to your high standards.
	10:07pm doca: I only hope we don't see an increase by 1/3 of rock and roll in your show.
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Hmmmm...that's always possible.
	10:09pm P-90: As the good book says: "......the Station Manager giveth, and the Station Manager taketh away" --and we mortals can only hope for the best and roll with the punches
	10:09pm Dave Mandl: @doca: That's probably me. I don't want to plug my own stuff here, but who's the author of the book?
	10:10pm doca: @Dave: It's "Behind the Blip: Essays on the Culture of Software", by Matthew Fuller (ed. Autonomedia)
	10:11pm earrie: ..basking in the twilight zone ..misfiled
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Yup, that would be me.
	10:12pm Dave Mandl: Good book (which I can't take credit for). Matt's a very smart guy.
	10:12pm The Brooklyn Kid: A good evening to you MR Mandl
	10:13pm Dave Mandl: Ah, Brooklyn Kid. Welcome.
	10:14pm doca: @Dave: Ah cool! It always brings me a smile whenever I see WFMU-related people on non-WFMU-related things. It's like a shibboleth
	10:14pm Cooh John: Why not? Great muzique as alwaze.
	10:16pm Droll: Drum-n-Bass opener with bands that blow... Mandl, we need to talk.
	10:16pm doca: @Dave: I've only read the first chapter, but it's really nice. It is helping me on an essay about computer mediation in the crafting of historical sources.
	10:16pm Dave Mandl: @Cooh John: Thanks.
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Well, horn players that blow.
	10:18pm The Brooklyn Kid: Me Mandl I've listened to your show on and off for the past few years.
	10:19pm The Brooklyn Kid: Groovy sounds tonight I'm going to find my beret, dark glasses and turtle neck sweater
	10:20pm Dave Mandl: You'll sweat to death wearing that outfit in Brooklyn in late May.
	10:21pm The Brooklyn Kid: Yeah baby I'm a hip cat:)
	10:23pm Cooh John: @ The Brooklyn Kid: Do not forget your jacket with elbow patches if it gets chilly.
	10:23pm The Brooklyn Kid: I'm going to recite poetry now How can a dude put his past behind him when it's always in front if him
	10:28pm The Brooklyn Kid: More poetry... Have a nice day Try not to get in anyone's way Enjoy your stay Don't forget to pay Tip the doorman ray What else do you want me to say?
	10:28pm jeanne: Dave's hilarious tonight, boys n girlz.
	10:29pm Droll: "worlds first supergroup" ... "you didn't miss much". Viva le 3rd hour of commentary! ...Beautiful Lies You Could Live In. ‎(LP): Reprise Records RS 6467 US 1971
	10:30pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES was the first supergroup
	10:31pm doca: I loved that second line too, Droll.
	10:32pm Droll: Ramses is 10cc!!! Please wait until you have a 3-hour show for that special!
	10:32pm doca: This Ramases is the one Joe McGasko did an interview with the guy that ran the compilation, isn't? Great interview and great figure
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: @jeanne: Why, thank you.
	10:34pm Dave Mandl: @Brooklyn: Cream was a few years earlier, but let's agree to disagree.
	10:35pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES had so many more hits than cream.didn't they
	10:36pm doca: Ken should do a YES show for once. Three hours of it.
	10:37pm doca: @Dave: on which label did this Ramases comp was released?
	10:38pm The Brooklyn Kid: YES and THE WHO
	10:38pm Dave Mandl: @Brooklyn: "supergroup" not in the sense of great, but in the sense of who the members were.
	10:40pm Dave Mandl: @doca: Stormvox? More info here: www.copticcat.com...
	10:40pm The Brooklyn Kid: Aha.
	10:40pm Droll: . o O ( Super is in the ears of the beholder ) By that definition, "supergroups" were a dime a dozen with the jazzers.
	10:41pm doca: @Dave: Thanks!
	10:42pm JakeGould: I took one of those 2-3 hour “naps” where I just woke up now. Not complaining. Hello!
	10:42pm The Brooklyn Kid: Well ok talent wise you have to give some to YES for all their hits and THE WHO
	10:43pm pacific standard simon: Hello all. Finally home from work. Mr. Mandl is correct -- the term "supergroup" referred to rock groups made up of people who were already famous for being in other bands. Cream is the earliest example I can think of.
	10:44pm pacific standard simon: Also, probably the beginning of the term "power trio"
	10:44pm Droll: Howdy pss! Can you define "famous"? I can make a list of supergroups if we can nail this down.
	10:45pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Jake, pss, and everyone else who I haven't said "Evening" to yet.
	10:45pm JakeGould: @Droll Exactly. There are a few indie “supergroups” that are really just groups.
	10:46pm Dave Mandl: Like everything else, the term is used recklessly now, but it was clear what a "supergroup" was in the '70s. Doesn't mean they were good!
	10:47pm 12539: Wikipedia says, "Cream was widely regarded as being the world's first successful supergroup," which makes me wonder - what was the world's first failed supergroup?
	10:49pm The Brooklyn Kid: To me when I hear the word "supergroup" I think of a band from the 60's or 70's that had a lot of char topping hits I blame the dj's at the old wnew radio station up the dial
	10:49pm JakeGould: I barely got it. So you are saying that Ginger Baker was a musical force of his own back then, right? And what `12539` says. Bingo. Yahtzee.
	10:49pm pacific standard simon: In those primitive rock 'n' roll days, I think all the members had to have at least one album out as a member of a band, and had quit said band. By that standard, Ginger Baker, was the least super of the band. Blind Faith was even more "super", as a group, because several members had already been members of "supergroups".
	10:50pm Droll: 12539, And if you can answer that question, then we have to deal with what is super about a failed group?
	10:50pm JakeGould: @The Brooklyn Kid: WNEW was great. Period. You realize many WNEW DJs and their format came from WFMU?
	10:51pm pacific standard simon: Ginger Baker was, hmm, a member of Graham Bond's band?
	10:51pm earrie: ..timeshifted
	10:54pm pacific standard simon: Yes. With Jack Bruce, who had also been in John Mayall's band. The whole idea of "musical chairs" in rock music was not familiar to rock and pop fans, as it was to jazz fans.
	10:56pm the Brooklyn kid: Scott Muni!!! Yes I distinctly remember him calling YES a rock supergroup
	10:57pm pacific standard simon: I've spent waaaay too much time poring over Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees!
	10:57pm pacific standard simon: pouring. or maybe purring.
	10:57pm 12539: In jazz, it's just the "Lead Player Trio." In rock, you need a silly name.
	10:59pm JakeGould: “Yes” was a supergroup. You might not like “Yes” because if some progrock indie snobbery, but that is what they are.
	10:59pm the Brooklyn kid: I spent a lot of years listening to wnew. Scott Muni Dennis Elsis Pete Formatale Dam Carlyle Carol miller
	10:59pm P-90: pss: you got it, the scene of young professional rock musicians in London at that time was very much like the scene in New York/Chicago/Hollywood, guys jumped from one band to another and played sessions for other artists all the time.
	11:01pm Droll: 12539, That's a good point I hadn't noticed before. Jazz band names are literal: The So-and-so Trio. So-and-so with the Whoevers. Rock names are Dada.
	11:03pm Droll: If the original lineup of Yes is a supergroup, what is the 19th lineup of Yes? A Super-duper-ultra-mega-group?
	11:04pm JakeGould: @Droll: It’s because jazz musicians get together to jam, work well together & then form a band on the spot. And most jazz musicians have a strong individual identify in addition to their band affiliations. Rock & pop bands are a bit more pretentious & self important. And if you have a solo life? Whoa! Back off! You can’t do that!
	11:05pm pacific standard simon: I'm not sure what the proper term for Yes might be, but I'm pretty sure that "supergroup" in the original sense of the word, before it was corrupted by corrupt FM DJs, is NOT one correct one. Wouldn't surprise me if a whole bunch of bands, from Zeppelin to Tull to whoever headlined at an arena, got tagged as a "supergroup".
	11:06pm JakeGould: @PSS: Do you mean that because nowadays ‘supergroup” is far more of a conscious moniker?
	11:06pm P-90: Yes was definitely referred to as a "supergroup" when they formed by the time Howe and Wakeman joined; by then the members had all distinguished themselves in other bands, though the "other band" that Squire and Anderson had proven themselves in was earlier version(s) of Yes, so it's a little convoluted And by then it was 69, three years after Cream had formed w/much "supergroup" hoopla
	11:12pm pacific standard simon: If "supergroup" was ever misapplied to any arena-rock band in the 70s, it strikes me as being more of advertising ploy by commercial radio DJs reading advertising copy. For my money, the definitive, if not the first, super bands were the Bloomfield, Kooper & Stills "Super Session" band, Blind Faith, and Crosby, Stills, & Nash.
	11:15pm Droll: The supergroups Yes and King Crimson merged to form the group Asia. Super²-group?
	11:17pm pacific standard simon: Also, "it's getting too the point where I'm no fun anymore". HA HA :D
	11:18pm Droll: Yeah, there's no definitive list here. [Yawn]
	11:18pm Ken From Hyde Park: I was in the grocery store a couple hours ago and Rolling Stone had an article about Robin Gibb. He was big in the 70s. I didn't finish the article. Will try to see if it's online yet.
	11:20pm P-90: CSN (+Y!) is a great example of a textbook supergroup, Blind Faith is the classic example, the "type specimen" of the genre. pss is right, it depends on the definition, lots of bands were made up of "previously very successful" guys. And Led Zep WAS referred to as a supergroup by the English press at the time they appeared, but right, then what about Tull and others?
	11:22pm pacific standard simon: It's starting to strike me as odd that we're chatting about this on a radio show that is "Guaranteed less than 2% rock and roll." (!)
	11:24pm P-90: Alao: if Clapton and Baker were veterans of another supergroup, did that make Blind Faith a super-suoergroup?
	11:24pm Dave Mandl: Only un-super-groups for me.
	11:24pm pacific standard simon: Emerson Lake and Palmer (who?)
	11:25pm 12539: The 2% limit doesn't apply to us, only to Dave.
	11:26pm pacific standard simon: Good thing -- I'd hate to be banished!
	11:26pm P-90: We like our WFMU playlists very un-super, and our Comments sometimes uber-super. Just the way it is, go figure...
	11:29pm earrie: .. caught in a loop one might surmise as being something-seasonal at the international date line
	11:29pm pacific standard simon: There should be a category for anti-supergroups -- ultra-famous bands whose members quit and become huge losers. Frank Zappa and the Mothers, anyone?
	11:39pm earrie: .. sent aloft where it circulated up and through Earth's troposphere, stratosphere, mesosphere and ionosphere. Wandering in and around and back.
	11:39pm pacific standard simon: I think there must have been another clerical error -- no Monica on the schedule.
	11:40pm pacific standard simon: 2%!
	11:41pm pacific standard simon: So Quicksilver, it's scary.
	11:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: Monica is the Landon Donovan of WFMU, I take it?
	11:46pm Droll: Ahhh, Mandl's back to his old tricks of of playing jazz shredders to squeeze in so many notes the 2% non-rock quota is maintained.
	11:46pm pacific standard simon: Have I mentioned that I found an online database of all Bill Graham productions at Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco? It was a gas, looking up the shows I was at, but could barely remember.
	11:46pm JakeGould: Jazz is great. Period.
	11:49pm pacific standard simon: I know that Eric Dolphy is Bob Brainen's territory on FMU, but that would be a nice start to the return of the 3-hour World of Echo.
	11:56pm P-90: pss: is there a link to that Fillmore joint?
	11:56pm P-90: I mean Winterland
	11:57pm 12539: Lovely percussion. Thanks for the show, Dave.
	11:58pm P-90: See? two hours go by way too fast! Thanks, Dave!
	11:59pm Droll: Thanks, Dave! I like all the live horns, but give Mellotron another chance when you have the third hour back. Have a good week!
	11:59pm pacific standard simon: www.chickenonaunicycle.com...
	12:00am P-90: Thnks, pss
	12:00am earrie: Agreed, yeah. Here's to that 3rd hr return.
	12:00am Dave Mandl: Thanks, everyone. Have a great week!

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from May 25, 2014

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