Re: Gazzelloni—It does amuse me that in the latest Mad Max film, they were referring to petrol using the exaggerated Australian pronunciation of "guzzoline." Like the origin of the shift had been lost for decades and now that was the word.
My mom became a big-time Bowie fan when she was a bit older than I am now. I think it was the "Putting Out the Fire" song from the "Cat People" soundtrack (she was also a big fan of pop synth: Moroder, Faltermeyer, Jan Hammer, all things Alan Parsons) and that track pulled her into the Bowie K-hole.
Tarantino comes in for some justified criticism, but his inclusion of lesser-known tracks in his movies, like that Bowie cut in "Inglourious Basterds," does a lot to wow listeners new to them.
(Then they get played like crazy, as per "Battles W/O Honour or Humanity," and you want a break from 'em.)
@Jeff J: Enjoyed it when I saw it ages ago. Was blown away by the soundtrack; didn't know as much about those tunes at the time, but have since made their formal acquaintance via FMU.
I always wanted to like "Velvet Goldmine" more than I did. I remember seeing it with Jeff G. and we both dug the tunes and got all the glam references, but somehow they subtracted from rather than added to the experience. I dig Todd Haynes in general though.
In college my further Bowie education came from a guy I roomed with. He was also a massive VU/Lou fan, but in all of these, he was THAT fan, just a jerk instead of an inviting sound-nerd. The truth is, of course, that he was dead right, but his attitude was the worst possible match for it. He was like the Comic Book Guy of Lou and Bowie.
Jeff G: Exaaactly. He was also like that with reggae. Blasted a lot of Eek-a-Mouse.
I got my vengeance when, after reading about Metal Machine Music in the Bangs anthology, then seeing the vinyl of it at Newbury Comics for $40, I told him it was there, and he beelined for the store and bought it. Current opinions on those discs may vary, but they were definitely not what he expected. Still, he sat dutifully by his stereo, bobbing his head to the staticky chaos.
"Bob your head to the staticky chaos" sounds like a hit in the making!
My only use for MMM was when I lived in a loud NYC apartment and I'd play it at night like a white noise machine to block out the traffic, drunk bar fights, etc. It worked nicely.
Also, if I recall correctly, Lester said it's the only record that evoked any signs of life from his hermit crab. (This also could have been Bangs's heroic consumption of Obetrol talking.)
I thot 'Velevt Goldmine' would be a good way to intro someone to the early 70s Glam phenomenon. I've felt that w/ Haynes - here is finally a filmmaker who truly *gets* Rock'n'Roll (Hollywood & Rawk never quite being on the same page previously...yerknow - there'd be a band in a movie & it's - wrong). The film isn't perfect but it communicates that. A bit much male buggery - but that's me - & that's Glam. I remember it being called Glitter Rawk in the early 70s when my older brother was exposing me to it all, btw - I don't remember 'Glam' - but I was a kid after all...
RevRabbit - You're probably right that Velvet Goldmine would be a good intro to glam/glitter. I think both Jeff and I were deep enough into the music already that we were the wrong audience. I do love his Dylan film, which is clearly made for fanatics and/or Godard fans.
Yeah! - Bowie was about discovering this wide oeuvre & checking out other people for what they had...an older brother, a girlfriend, a cafe...a snob har har...
I have to say I am finding the outpouring of love and loss for DB to be deeply moving. It's as if the universe (I travel in) is suddenly discovering how much more wonderful he was that it ever could really have known while he was still mortal. This collective revelation is a beautiful gift. There is something different about this wave of post-death adoration and I'm trying to wrap my head around it. But it's a sweet mystery, not a nagging one.
Take a listen to Mike Garson's call-in from Dave Hill's show this past Monday. Apparently he was introduced to DB by Annette Peacock, with whom he had just worked.
" But in my heart his greatest acolytes were the unknown thousands who recognized him as their enabler, their transformer. Bowie sang for the as-yet nonexistent ones, for the awkward, the strivers. He sang for the members of the public who were full-feathered birds of paradise in their own imaginations yet might also struggle through a simple visit to the grocery store. "
Here's Bowie talking with William S. Burroughs about his fans. Underlining how his project was more aimed at them than anything else: "I don't like to read things that people write about me. I'd rather read what kids have to say about me, because it's not their profession to do that. People look to me to see what the spirit of the Seventies is, at least 50% of them do. Critics I don't understand. They get too intellectual. They're not very well-versed in street talk; it takes them longer to say it."
Wow. I said: As Abstract Art becomes Universal by not being Representational - by mirroring the internal world of every individual - so Bowie became the strangest kind of Folk Music of the people w/ concepts & artifice.
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(Then they get played like crazy, as per "Battles W/O Honour or Humanity," and you want a break from 'em.)
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@ljfw: "Worst bootleg ever."
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I got my vengeance when, after reading about Metal Machine Music in the Bangs anthology, then seeing the vinyl of it at Newbury Comics for $40, I told him it was there, and he beelined for the store and bought it. Current opinions on those discs may vary, but they were definitely not what he expected. Still, he sat dutifully by his stereo, bobbing his head to the staticky chaos.
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My only use for MMM was when I lived in a loud NYC apartment and I'd play it at night like a white noise machine to block out the traffic, drunk bar fights, etc. It worked nicely.
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If you've seen this film, would "24 Hour Party People" do the same for Factory Records, or less effectively?
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